New middle school enriched and accelerated classes

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Which schools got only one of the classes? Sligo got both.

Cabin John got both, though I don't know how many sections.

Do you know if most/all kids who attended the 5th grade CES are on the list?

It is not a safe assumption that every 5th Grader at the CES has been listed for the new classes. If you don’t know the status of your own child,check MyMCPS under registration. If you do know your own kid’s status and are “just wondering,” I guess you’ll know in the Fall.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Which schools got only one of the classes? Sligo got both.

Cabin John got both, though I don't know how many sections.

Do you know if most/all kids who attended the 5th grade CES are on the list?

It is not a safe assumption that every 5th Grader at the CES has been listed for the new classes. If you don’t know the status of your own child,check MyMCPS under registration. If you do know your own kid’s status and are “just wondering,” I guess you’ll know in the Fall.

The Cabin John on-line schedules are not yet updated. The letter accepting to the two classes says the guidance counselor will make those changes by the end of the month. And, yes, that's right. DC will see who shows up in the Fall classes!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ces kids don’t do humanities homework only Science and math?? How’s their grammar and writing feedback then?

Take this with a grain of salt, because I am not confident DC is a reliable reporter, but he claims the humanities teacher stated many students currently have Cs and Ds in her class this quarter because they're not turning in their essay assignments. Dc believes those kids only care about the Math and Science units.

Are you talking about CES kids having C's and D's currently in the 5th grade class? Or are you talking about 6th grade kids at the middle school who used to be CES kids?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ces kids don’t do humanities homework only Science and math?? How’s their grammar and writing feedback then?

Take this with a grain of salt, because I am not confident DC is a reliable reporter, but he claims the humanities teacher stated many students currently have Cs and Ds in her class this quarter because they're not turning in their essay assignments. Dc believes those kids only care about the Math and Science units.

Are you talking about CES kids having C's and D's currently in the 5th grade class? Or are you talking about 6th grade kids at the middle school who used to be CES kids?

I could see some kids being cocky enough to only focus on science and math that early. Private school would flunk them.

[Anonymous]

Has anyone received a letter for a kid that wasn’t accepted into either of the classes?

[Anonymous]

I don't think they're sending letters for kids who did not make it into classes.

[Anonymous]

Anyone selected for one of the two, or who's not received anything yet?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ces kids don’t do humanities homework only Science and math?? How’s their grammar and writing feedback then?

Take this with a grain of salt, because I am not confident DC is a reliable reporter, but he claims the humanities teacher stated many students currently have Cs and Ds in her class this quarter because they're not turning in their essay assignments. Dc believes those kids only care about the Math and Science units.

Are you talking about CES kids having C's and D's currently in the 5th grade class? Or are you talking about 6th grade kids at the middle school who used to be CES kids?

I could see some kids being cocky enough to only focus on science and math that early. Private school would flunk them.

Or they are 9 -11 year olds who are not focused on grades and not mature enough to have terrific study habits.
The admissions process for the CES are different from the processes for MS and HS (at least in years past). Study habits and grades matter more because the work load and expectations are higher in MS and HS magnet programs and they want kids who are not just smart but who are willing and eager to do the work. When you are evaluating kids in 3rd grade it is harder to get a good read on this and I think perhaps it does not matter so much as such a young age. They are looking for kids with promise and interest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ces kids don’t do humanities homework only Science and math?? How’s their grammar and writing feedback then?

Take this with a grain of salt, because I am not confident DC is a reliable reporter, but he claims the humanities teacher stated many students currently have Cs and Ds in her class this quarter because they're not turning in their essay assignments. Dc believes those kids only care about the Math and Science units.

Are you talking about CES kids having C's and D's currently in the 5th grade class? Or are you talking about 6th grade kids at the middle school who used to be CES kids?

I could see some kids being cocky enough to only focus on science and math that early. Private school would flunk them.

Or they are 9 -11 year olds who are not focused on grades and not mature enough to have terrific study habits.
The admissions process for the CES are different from the processes for MS and HS (at least in years past). Study habits and grades matter more because the work load and expectations are higher in MS and HS magnet programs and they want kids who are not just smart but who are willing and eager to do the work. When you are evaluating kids in 3rd grade it is harder to get a good read on this and I think perhaps it does not matter so much as such a young age. They are looking for kids with promise and interest.

The irony about the CES testing is that having two categories favoring STEM-oriented kids (quantitative, non-verbal) and only one verbal makes little sense for a magnet program that is oriented toward the humanities.

[Anonymous]

You don't seem to know much about testing. The three sections in the Cogat screener are the best combination of measures of general intelligence for a test of that length. Even the full Cogat or a standard individual IQ test contain those types of measures. By the way, non-verbal does not "favor" STEM kids. It involves reasoning with abstract ideas.

I know some experts think that the verbal part of the tests is the most biased because of cultural issues relate to the question and because they rely more on exposure to vocabulary which puts certain group at a disadvantage.

[Anonymous]

Actually, high non-verbal abilities do correlate to success in STEM

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/262917205_Visual-Spatial_Ability_Important_in_STEM_Ignored_in_Gifted_Education

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Actually, high non-verbal abilities do correlate to success in STEM

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/262917205_Visual-Spatial_Ability_Important_in_STEM_Ignored_in_Gifted_Education

tell that the private school stem kids that after grades 4-9 got heavy mark-ups and feedback on their writing for years and now are fantastic writers and asperger-like genius in their math and sci classes.

[Anonymous]

9:48 I am not sure how your reply makes any sense

[Anonymous]

rather hire a verbal programmer or scientist who can speak and write well than one who cannot.
what's hard about understanding that? That's why good engineers are pushed to get exec MBAs.

[Anonymous]

10:24, Yes, I totally agree with that point. I guess I don't understand how it relates to the correlation between high nonverbal tests and STEM proficiency.