Shaw Middle School -- what's the plan?

[Anonymous]

I think those 6 feeders were supposed to fit into the Shaw site that has been given away to Banneker.

So I agree that it is difficult to imagine a new building to geographically fit a new middle school for those feeders. Assuming we are following the "neighborhood" concept. They could find a few smaller buildings or empty lots. Or do what they have been doing for years already, hand those kids all over to the charter schools!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think those 6 feeders were supposed to fit into the Shaw site that has been given away to Banneker.

So I agree that it is difficult to imagine a new building to geographically fit a new middle school for those feeders. Assuming we are following the "neighborhood" concept. They could find a few smaller buildings or empty lots. Or do what they have been doing for years already, hand those kids all over to the charter schools!

ANd then take them back for high school, which is 4 years long instead of 3, and thus helps their enrollment numbers more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think those 6 feeders were supposed to fit into the Shaw site that has been given away to Banneker.

So I agree that it is difficult to imagine a new building to geographically fit a new middle school for those feeders. Assuming we are following the "neighborhood" concept. They could find a few smaller buildings or empty lots. Or do what they have been doing for years already, hand those kids all over to the charter schools!

ANd then take them back for high school, which is 4 years long instead of 3, and thus helps their enrollment numbers more.

The impression I got during the boundary review process is that DCPS does not care whether they lose “market share” to charters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think those 6 feeders were supposed to fit into the Shaw site that has been given away to Banneker.

So I agree that it is difficult to imagine a new building to geographically fit a new middle school for those feeders. Assuming we are following the "neighborhood" concept. They could find a few smaller buildings or empty lots. Or do what they have been doing for years already, hand those kids all over to the charter schools!

ANd then take them back for high school, which is 4 years long instead of 3, and thus helps their enrollment numbers more.

The impression I got during the boundary review process is that DCPS does not care whether they lose “market share” to charters.

That was the last mayor. DCPS cares deeply now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think those 6 feeders were supposed to fit into the Shaw site that has been given away to Banneker.

So I agree that it is difficult to imagine a new building to geographically fit a new middle school for those feeders. Assuming we are following the "neighborhood" concept. They could find a few smaller buildings or empty lots. Or do what they have been doing for years already, hand those kids all over to the charter schools!

ANd then take them back for high school, which is 4 years long instead of 3, and thus helps their enrollment numbers more.

The impression I got during the boundary review process is that DCPS does not care whether they lose “market share” to charters.

That was the last mayor. DCPS cares deeply now.

Does she? What evidence do you have to support that? Didn’t she just hire a chancellor with kids in private school?

[Anonymous]

One of the barriers I see to a MS at Shaw being successful is, with the exception of Banneker, the lack of an acceptable high school. Believe me, by the time your kids get to MS you are already thinking about high school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One of the barriers I see to a MS at Shaw being successful is, with the exception of Banneker, the lack of an acceptable high school. Believe me, by the time your kids get to MS you are already thinking about high school.

Yep. And a new Banneker in Shaw is a better carrot for me (a Shaw parent) to stay in the neighborhood as my kids age than a theoretical new Shaw Middle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of the barriers I see to a MS at Shaw being successful is, with the exception of Banneker, the lack of an acceptable high school. Believe me, by the time your kids get to MS you are already thinking about high school.

Yep. And a new Banneker in Shaw is a better carrot for me (a Shaw parent) to stay in the neighborhood as my kids age than a theoretical new Shaw Middle.

Who is to say that your kid will even get into Banneker? It's not a neighborhood by-right school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of the barriers I see to a MS at Shaw being successful is, with the exception of Banneker, the lack of an acceptable high school. Believe me, by the time your kids get to MS you are already thinking about high school.

Yep. And a new Banneker in Shaw is a better carrot for me (a Shaw parent) to stay in the neighborhood as my kids age than a theoretical new Shaw Middle.

Who is to say that your kid will even get into Banneker? It's not a neighborhood by-right school.

If the student body at Banneker expands with the move, that makes it more likely that my kid would get in.

The new location is not so far from the current one as to make a big difference in commute, for us anyway.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of the barriers I see to a MS at Shaw being successful is, with the exception of Banneker, the lack of an acceptable high school. Believe me, by the time your kids get to MS you are already thinking about high school.

Yep. And a new Banneker in Shaw is a better carrot for me (a Shaw parent) to stay in the neighborhood as my kids age than a theoretical new Shaw Middle.

Who is to say that your kid will even get into Banneker? It's not a neighborhood by-right school.

NP. This is the problem. Mid-city parents like myself don't have an acceptable middle or high school option, and the feeder schools suffer. The decision to move Banneker forecloses any chance of moving the middle school from Cardozo and creating a decent in-bound option for neighborhood families. Granted, we don't know how a new Shaw middle school would have fared, but now we know we are stuck with Cardozo as our in-bound option. No thanks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of the barriers I see to a MS at Shaw being successful is, with the exception of Banneker, the lack of an acceptable high school. Believe me, by the time your kids get to MS you are already thinking about high school.

Yep. And a new Banneker in Shaw is a better carrot for me (a Shaw parent) to stay in the neighborhood as my kids age than a theoretical new Shaw Middle.

Who is to say that your kid will even get into Banneker? It's not a neighborhood by-right school.

NP. This is the problem. Mid-city parents like myself don't have an acceptable middle or high school option, and the feeder schools suffer. The decision to move Banneker forecloses any chance of moving the middle school from Cardozo and creating a decent in-bound option for neighborhood families. Granted, we don't know how a new Shaw middle school would have fared, but now we know we are stuck with Cardozo as our in-bound option. No thanks.

One of my kids would get into any of the test in high school, (please don't critique my confidence in that), I live in Logan Circle so making Banneker more modern, and closer to me, does make it more of a possibility, but where do I go in the meantime? Francis Stephens is available for a while as my middle school, but this was supposed to be temporary.

So I agree with you!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of the barriers I see to a MS at Shaw being successful is, with the exception of Banneker, the lack of an acceptable high school. Believe me, by the time your kids get to MS you are already thinking about high school.

Yep. And a new Banneker in Shaw is a better carrot for me (a Shaw parent) to stay in the neighborhood as my kids age than a theoretical new Shaw Middle.

Who is to say that your kid will even get into Banneker? It's not a neighborhood by-right school.

NP. This is the problem. Mid-city parents like myself don't have an acceptable middle or high school option, and the feeder schools suffer. The decision to move Banneker forecloses any chance of moving the middle school from Cardozo and creating a decent in-bound option for neighborhood families. Granted, we don't know how a new Shaw middle school would have fared, but now we know we are stuck with Cardozo as our in-bound option. No thanks.

One of my kids would get into any of the test in high school, (please don't critique my confidence in that), I live in Logan Circle so making Banneker more modern, and closer to me, does make it more of a possibility, but where do I go in the meantime? Francis Stephens is available for a while as my middle school, but this was supposed to be temporary.

So I agree with you!

The entire city outside of the Wilson feeders are in the same boat.

[Anonymous]

I was at a public meeting a while back with the temp. Chancellor, she was ask a few times about high school for kids in Logan and Dupont, her response was " we need to fix Cardozo".

So I am not confident that she will be supportive of a middle school in the area that is not Cardozo either. Whatever the plan was, it is over now. Someone should ask her.

But I also think this should not rest entirely in hands of DCPS, this is a bigger city planning issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was at a public meeting a while back with the temp. Chancellor, she was ask a few times about high school for kids in Logan and Dupont, her response was " we need to fix Cardozo".

So I am not confident that she will be supportive of a middle school in the area that is not Cardozo either. Whatever the plan was, it is over now. Someone should ask her.

But I also think this should not rest entirely in hands of DCPS, this is a bigger city planning issue.

And Grosso is holding a hearing. Have you signed up to testify?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was at a public meeting a while back with the temp. Chancellor, she was ask a few times about high school for kids in Logan and Dupont, her response was " we need to fix Cardozo".

So I am not confident that she will be supportive of a middle school in the area that is not Cardozo either. Whatever the plan was, it is over now. Someone should ask her.

But I also think this should not rest entirely in hands of DCPS, this is a bigger city planning issue.

And Grosso is holding a hearing. Have you signed up to testify?

What hearing when?