Official Ebola update thread

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Anonymous wrote: I hope she'll recover and that the transfer to Emory isn't a sign of a downward spiral.

Have they said why she is being transferred to Emory? Beyond just "They've treated other patients"?

I have to think she is much sicker than Nina Pham if she is being transferred this quickly and Nina isn't. Which just leads me back to... she was sicker than they'll admit on her Monday flight. And possibly over the weekend.

I bet they were infected right around the same time. Nina went in Friday, Amber not until overnight Monday/Tuesday at the earliest.

Here's the thing---you don't go from being contagious exactly at point A. There is a lead up to when the fever first spikes when you are contagious...as there is with every single other virus with fever as a symptom. Once it hits with Ebola--it hits full on which means if you aren't quarantined--you are out running your daily errands, hopping flights, etc. WTF???!!!! I have a graduate Degree in Virology. I have worked with doctors that worked in the Congo with Ebola. I am baffled by how the US is letting this take ground here. We are already so many steps behind.

PEOPLE CANNOT BE TRUSTED TO SELF-MONITOR. TO NOT GET ON FLIGHTS. TO NOT GO OUT IN PUBLIC. EVEN THE BROADCASTER BROKE HER QUARATINE. People can't even be trusted to take their temp twice a day. WTF? Are we really going to be able to monitor all of the potential victims. No- of course not. Non-essential flights from W.Africa should have been banned months ago. A Huge presence shoudl have been down there fighting it on its turf in the Hot Zone and contained it DOWN there. THe hospital staff that had intimitate contact with DUNCAN SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON QUARATINE AND NOT ALLOWED OUT IN PUBLIC. WTF???

Wow I elect y oi to run the CDC! I'm serious why the fuck can't our leaders think of this simple shit to protect its citizens. Baffling!

I work for another government agency. I'm have worked both with FDA and NIH in the past. That is why I GET this shit show. I also know CDC is told what they can say to the press. They have to hide shit. They can't say how bad it is if Admin doesn't want that word out. They don't want to lose their jobs...the good people eventually can't take the Bureaucracy. It takes way too long to get approval to do what needs to be done!!!!!

The President canceled a scheduled event when they found out about the second nurse..... they know this is serious.... Will he act?????

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Anonymous wrote:Never, EVER in my life did I think I would agree with John Boehner about anything ever, but yes to this assertion:

"A temporary ban on travel to the United States from countries afflicted with the virus is something that the president should absolutely consider along with any other appropriate actions as doubts about the security of our air travel systems grow".

Obama keeps saying that a pandemic is inevitable if we don't treat people in West Africa and, yes, we absolutely need to address the illness over there. But why the HELL are we also not keeping out travelers who've been in affected areas without instituting a quarantine. What the hell is the CDC thinking ????

I really can't understand why you are panicking now about someone from West Africa, when this nurse traveled from Texas. Huh?

Let me spell it out for you, oh dense one.

Nurse caught Ebola from a man, Thomas Duncan, who had just traveled to Liberia and who, while in Liberia, had contact with an extremely ill woman who eventually died of Ebola. He came to the US and then infected two nurses while being treated in the hospital.

Thomas Duncan was just one person, but thus far we know he was "patient 0" for at least two other cases of Ebola (and possibly more will emerge in the next few days). So, if we limit travel for those coming from affected areas, we may be able to prevent other Thomas Duncans from exposing other people to the disease.

Now, oh dense one, you may say, "Well, it's the hospital that failed. It was failed protocols. The CDC is doing a horrible job" And I agree with all of that. But given that just three cases in the last two weeks have revealed that our healthcare infrastructure and national leadership is totally and completely unprepared to handle Ebola, let's not further burden the system.

Got it?

Okay, o wise one. I still don't it. No other person traveling from West Africa has had Ebola or any symptons.

At this point, it seems like the proper line of panic would be limiting travel within the US. But I guess not.

Sure, if you have a fever and have worked closely with a patient who recently died of Ebola, you shouldn't be permitted to jump on a plane. Yup, agree with you. But that's not mutually exclusive to preventing people who have traveled in regions with high Ebola rates from coming into the US and into the population without - at a minimum - a quarantine. And no, the self imposed quarantine isn't sufficiently because apparently people don't give a fuck and would rather take a chance on exposing other people to a gruesome deadly disease than to just stay put for a few weeks.

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The nurse called the CDC several times before flying CBS news reports: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ebola-nurse-called-cdc-several-times/

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said that Vinson called the agency several times before flying, saying that she had a fever with a temperature of 99.5 degrees. But because her fever wasn't 100.4 degrees or higher, she didn't officially fall into the group of "high risk" and was allowed to fly.

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When will we stop receiving flights from West Africa? Also I have heard that World Bank employees fly to West Africa monthly. Are they still doing this?

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Anonymous wrote:When will we stop receiving flights from West Africa? Also I have heard that World Bank employees fly to West Africa monthly. Are they still doing this?

To clarify - I meant just a few WorldBank employees that are working with that region. But still...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Never, EVER in my life did I think I would agree with John Boehner about anything ever, but yes to this assertion:

"A temporary ban on travel to the United States from countries afflicted with the virus is something that the president should absolutely consider along with any other appropriate actions as doubts about the security of our air travel systems grow".

Obama keeps saying that a pandemic is inevitable if we don't treat people in West Africa and, yes, we absolutely need to address the illness over there. But why the HELL are we also not keeping out travelers who've been in affected areas without instituting a quarantine. What the hell is the CDC thinking ????

I really can't understand why you are panicking now about someone from West Africa, when this nurse traveled from Texas. Huh?

Let me spell it out for you, oh dense one.

Nurse caught Ebola from a man, Thomas Duncan, who had just traveled to Liberia and who, while in Liberia, had contact with an extremely ill woman who eventually died of Ebola. He came to the US and then infected two nurses while being treated in the hospital.

Thomas Duncan was just one person, but thus far we know he was "patient 0" for at least two other cases of Ebola (and possibly more will emerge in the next few days). So, if we limit travel for those coming from affected areas, we may be able to prevent other Thomas Duncans from exposing other people to the disease.

Now, oh dense one, you may say, "Well, it's the hospital that failed. It was failed protocols. The CDC is doing a horrible job" And I agree with all of that. But given that just three cases in the last two weeks have revealed that our healthcare infrastructure and national leadership is totally and completely unprepared to handle Ebola, let's not further burden the system.

Got it?

Okay, o wise one. I still don't it. No other person traveling from West Africa has had Ebola or any symptons.

At this point, it seems like the proper line of panic would be limiting travel within the US. But I guess not.

You have to be the dumbest person alive. How many people in west Africa with Ebola? 3,000-5,000, right? How many in Texas with Ebola? 2, right? And they're both in hospitals. So yes, banning travel makes much more sense from west Africa. Stop being obtuse.

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I think the head of that hospital needs to resign. Too many fuck ups.

[Anonymous]

This article helped me to get a better handle on the issue of the nurse reporting her temperature but still flying. It gives more details than the CBS story about the nurse calling several times. Basically, an anonymous CDC employer spoke to the press about the situation.http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/16/us/ebola-outbreak-texas.html?_r=0

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Anonymous wrote:When will we stop receiving flights from West Africa? Also I have heard that World Bank employees fly to West Africa monthly. Are they still doing this?

To clarify - I meant just a few WorldBank employees that are working with that region. But still...

The World Bank just had their Annual Meetings here in DC and had many visitors from West Africa as well as the rest of Africa.

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Anonymous wrote:When will we stop receiving flights from West Africa? Also I have heard that World Bank employees fly to West Africa monthly. Are they still doing this?

To clarify - I meant just a few WorldBank employees that are working with that region. But still...

The World Bank just had their Annual Meetings here in DC and had many visitors from West Africa as well as the rest of Africa.

It's this kind of meeting and global event that prevents Obama and leadership from banning travel or insisting on quarantines. Pure politics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This article helped me to get a better handle on the issue of the nurse reporting her temperature but still flying. It gives more details than the CBS story about the nurse calling several times. Basically, an anonymous CDC employer spoke to the press about the situation.http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/16/us/ebola-outbreak-texas.html?_r=0

Completely irresponsible. The risk is far too great.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the head of that hospital needs to resign. Too many fuck ups.

The hospital was not prepared. This hospital is no different than most of the hospitals in this country. Let's start with who messed up before the head of a regular hospital- CDC director and Obama. They messed up and are continuing to do so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The nurse called the CDC several times before flying CBS news reports: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ebola-nurse-called-cdc-several-times/

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said that Vinson called the agency several times before flying, saying that she had a fever with a temperature of 99.5 degrees. But because her fever wasn't 100.4 degrees or higher, she didn't officially fall into the group of "high risk" and was allowed to fly.

INFURIATING

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It's only chance that the first patient arrived in Texas. If it was any other regular hospital we'd be in the same mess. It's unreasonable to expect receiving to deal with Ebola under the current climate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Never, EVER in my life did I think I would agree with John Boehner about anything ever, but yes to this assertion:

"A temporary ban on travel to the United States from countries afflicted with the virus is something that the president should absolutely consider along with any other appropriate actions as doubts about the security of our air travel systems grow".

Obama keeps saying that a pandemic is inevitable if we don't treat people in West Africa and, yes, we absolutely need to address the illness over there. But why the HELL are we also not keeping out travelers who've been in affected areas without instituting a quarantine. What the hell is the CDC thinking ????

I really can't understand why you are panicking now about someone from West Africa, when this nurse traveled from Texas. Huh?

Let me spell it out for you, oh dense one.

Nurse caught Ebola from a man, Thomas Duncan, who had just traveled to Liberia and who, while in Liberia, had contact with an extremely ill woman who eventually died of Ebola. He came to the US and then infected two nurses while being treated in the hospital.

Thomas Duncan was just one person, but thus far we know he was "patient 0" for at least two other cases of Ebola (and possibly more will emerge in the next few days). So, if we limit travel for those coming from affected areas, we may be able to prevent other Thomas Duncans from exposing other people to the disease.

Now, oh dense one, you may say, "Well, it's the hospital that failed. It was failed protocols. The CDC is doing a horrible job" And I agree with all of that. But given that just three cases in the last two weeks have revealed that our healthcare infrastructure and national leadership is totally and completely unprepared to handle Ebola, let's not further burden the system.

Got it?

Applause...