Eaton Thrown Under the Bus

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the Cleveland Park folks in $2 million homes already send their kids to private school, but Cleveland Park has lots of other residents -- in much less expensive homes and condos. They are the ones who will not have options because they don't have the funds for private. The uncertainty will hurt a lot of property values in Ward 3. If Hardy is not good enough for Mann and Stoddert (witness the numbers), then why is it good enough for Eaton. It's not what any of the parents expect. Is it simply Eaton's turn to go to the bad middle school? Can't we do better than that for all the kids in the city?

It may be a good enough outcome for Eaton because it has more than 50 percent students from out of boundary area. Those kids' parents probably will be ok with any option that is not their "home" school, especially if it is on the west side of Rock Creek Park. The OOB parents also are less likely to be activist complainers than you would find in schools with a higher proportion of Ward 3 parents.

1st PP, show me the sub 2mil owner occupied homes that send kids to Eaton--heck, show me the sub 750k home in CP and I've got a bridge I could sell you.

Are you kidding? Lots of less expensive houses , plus condos and apartments in the Eaton district. And I know people in $3 million homes who send their kids to Eaton . You obviously don't know the area at all.

Np here. I've lived off Reno for 20 years so I'm acquainted with "the area."

1. There are not, in fact, "lots" of HOUSES that are "less expensive" than $2m. There are lots of condos, and there are a few townhome sort of things east of connecticut or in McLean gardens.

2. There are a handful of houses/SFHs in Cleveland park proper that are worth less than 2m. I think it's a stretch to announce that all of,these Have kids and all those kids attend eaton, don't you?

This is not news the whole reason eaton -- a small school to begin with, mind you -- has so many seats for kids eotp is precisely BECAUSE Cleveland park houses DON't send their kids to public school. A few parents moving into McLean gardens doesn't change that.

Exactly.

You clearly don't know Cleveland Park, because you don't know what you're talking about, But even if this were accurate, what is your point exactly? That kids who don't live in Cleveland Park and yet attend Eaton somehow are not "deserving" enough of continuing to Deal?! Sheesh, if that's your view, it makes Mitt Romney seem like Pope Francis!

I think I have established that I "know" Cleveland Park. My point is just to refute the nonsense up thread that lots and lots of kids from mythical moderately priced Cleveland Park houses attend Eaton.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My children attended Eaton and most (not all) of their friends were IB. Some lived in expensive houses, some in attached houses and condos and some in apartments. They differed in race, culture and economics, but they all wanted a good education for their children. That is just not as likely at Hardy.

So your kids managed to be friends with the 1 in 4 (now 1in 3) kids who live IB and avoid the 66-75% who come from eotp. Slick.

No. I did not say that at all. They had OOB friends as well, but to be honest the closest friends were the ones they walked to and from school with every day. Is that a crime?

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I live in a $2 mlllion house and my kids went to Eaton.

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Anonymous wrote:I live in a $2 mlllion house and my kids went to Eaton.

My house is only worth 1.5 and my kids also went to Eaton.

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Anonymous wrote:I live in a $2 mlllion house and my kids went to Eaton.

My house is only worth 1.5 and my kids also went to Eaton.

Gosh, my house is only worth $750K but I wouldn't consider Eaton.

Have we all made our point$$ yet?

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Anonymous wrote:My children attended Eaton and most (not all) of their friends were IB. Some lived in expensive houses, some in attached houses and condos and some in apartments. They differed in race, culture and economics, but they all wanted a good education for their children. That is just not as likely at Hardy.

So your kids managed to be friends with the 1 in 4 (now 1in 3) kids who live IB and avoid the 66-75% who come from eotp. Slick.

No. I did not say that at all. They had OOB friends as well, but to be honest the closest friends were the ones they walked to and from school with every day. Is that a crime?

And one of the advantages of having strong neighborhood schools is so that kids can find playmates who live close by, where they can walk over to each other's houses after school and do other things without the logistics of transportation and elaborate play dates. This is one reason why we sent our kids to Eaton. It was also great that they made friends who lived in other neighborhoods, too.

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Anonymous wrote:I live in a $2 mlllion house and my kids went to Eaton.

My house is only worth 1.5 and my kids also went to Eaton.

Gosh, my house is only worth $750K but I wouldn't consider Eaton.

Have we all made our point$$ yet?

It's a free country -- and so far, no one is "controlling" your "choice."

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the Cleveland Park folks in $2 million homes already send their kids to private school, but Cleveland Park has lots of other residents -- in much less expensive homes and condos. They are the ones who will not have options because they don't have the funds for private. The uncertainty will hurt a lot of property values in Ward 3. If Hardy is not good enough for Mann and Stoddert (witness the numbers), then why is it good enough for Eaton. It's not what any of the parents expect. Is it simply Eaton's turn to go to the bad middle school? Can't we do better than that for all the kids in the city?

It may be a good enough outcome for Eaton because it has more than 50 percent students from out of boundary area. Those kids' parents probably will be ok with any option that is not their "home" school, especially if it is on the west side of Rock Creek Park. The OOB parents also are less likely to be activist complainers than you would find in schools with a higher proportion of Ward 3 parents.

1st PP, show me the sub 2mil owner occupied homes that send kids to Eaton--heck, show me the sub 750k home in CP and I've got a bridge I could sell you.

Are you kidding? Lots of less expensive houses , plus condos and apartments in the Eaton district. And I know people in $3 million homes who send their kids to Eaton . You obviously don't know the area at all.

Np here. I've lived off Reno for 20 years so I'm acquainted with "the area."

1. There are not, in fact, "lots" of HOUSES that are "less expensive" than $2m. There are lots of condos, and there are a few townhome sort of things east of connecticut or in McLean gardens.

2. There are a handful of houses/SFHs in Cleveland park proper that are worth less than 2m. I think it's a stretch to announce that all of,these Have kids and all those kids attend eaton, don't you?

This is not news the whole reason eaton -- a small school to begin with, mind you -- has so many seats for kids eotp is precisely BECAUSE Cleveland park houses DON't send their kids to public school. A few parents moving into McLean gardens doesn't change that.

Exactly.

You clearly don't know Cleveland Park, because you don't know what you're talking about, But even if this were accurate, what is your point exactly? That kids who don't live in Cleveland Park and yet attend Eaton somehow are not "deserving" enough of continuing to Deal?! Sheesh, if that's your view, it makes Mitt Romney seem like Pope Francis!

I think I have established that I "know" Cleveland Park. My point is just to refute the nonsense up thread that lots and lots of kids from mythical moderately priced Cleveland Park houses attend Eaton.

We can still stipulate two things: Fewer kids from the neighborhood will attend Eaton is Deal is no longer an option. And way fewer will go to Eaton if Hardy no longer feeds to Wilson.

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That pretty much sums it up.

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We can still stipulate two things: Fewer kids from the neighborhood will attend Eaton is Deal is no longer an option. And way fewer will go to Eaton if Hardy no longer feeds to Wilson.

Yes. Well said. And Eaton's test scores and community will suffer as we time travel backwards.
Why would they mess with success?
Eaton as it is right now should be looked at as a great success story (great programming, great/rising test scores, excellent staff, true diversity, welcoming community) and replicted across the city.
Take away predictability, the story has a very different ending.

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Bowser now also publicly supports a new HS west of the park.

This is happening *if DME is wrong and Wilson cannot continue to accommodate Hardy.

[Anonymous]

Can McLean Gardens and other Eaton areas be rezoned for Hearst? Hearst still goes to Deal right?

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Anonymous wrote:Can McLean Gardens and other Eaton areas be rezoned for Hearst? Hearst still goes to Deal right?

In option B, yes.

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Anonymous wrote:Eaton is CLOSER to Hardy than Deal-why wouldn't that be it's feeder?

FWIW, there is no direct public transportation from east CP to upper Georgetown. Many Oyster/Eaton families can board the red line and pop directly to Deal in a few stops.

I live in neither CP nor Woodley but am intimately familiar with how difficult it is to get from Wisconsin Ave to Connecticut Ave and all points due east.

My middle schooler takes a 30 bus north on Wisconsin from upper Georgetown (near Hardy) and then walks down Macomb or Porter to her destination close to Wisconsin 4-5 times/week. This isn't difficult at all, although I've heard a bit of grumbling about the uphill walk back to Connecticut.

If your child is really averse to this option because it involves some walking, then he/she can take the metro to Dupont and get the D2 bus directly to Hardy.

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Have no horse in this race, just know that there is basically no easy east-west bus route (bit better for Eaton, but pretty bad for Oyster) for those two neighborhoods.

Working with the very unlikely assumption that all Eaton students begin their trip from Eaton itself (as opposed to an OOB location)

Assuming walking:

shortest Eaton to Hardy = 1.6 miles

shortest Eaton to Deal = 1.8 miles

Assuming driving (Google maps):

shortest Eaton to Hardy = 5 min. driving, 16 min. public transit

shortest Eaton to Deal = 5 min. driving, 17 min. public transit

Assuming Public Transportation (WMATA trip planner):

shortest Eaton to Hardy = $1.60

shortest Eaton to Deal = $1.60

Please show me the Eaton to Hardy route for $1.60 as well as the timetables.

Don't all DCPS kids ride the bus for free?

Yes, but their parents do not.

Children in middle school generally do not need their parents to accompany them on public transportation. Do a few back-and-forth trips together and then the child is ready to go on his/her own.