Baby stealing approved in South Carolina!

[Anonymous]

She has lived with her dad for the last 20 months. What would another disruption do to her. Well enough should be left alone. Kids with good homes do not need to be ripped out and adopted.

[Anonymous]

They need to improve adoption laws as far as making sure fathers are contacted. There have been quite a few cases of fathers having to rescue their kids from adoption.

There are other kids out here in desperate need of a home. Why don't the adoptive parents go find one of those kids.

[Anonymous]

16:04-because they want their "white" looking commodity that they paid upwards of 40,00.00 for. They could have gotten a Lexus for that $$$ and do not want to loose their "investment". I guess there are no refunds when you enter into an fraudulent adoption and get caught.

[Anonymous]

$$$40,000.00

[Anonymous]

I really and truly do not understand why these people feel they have a right to this child.
I truly do NOT.GET. IT.
A lot of parents can feel awful about being parents BEFORE the baby gets here
But barring any known criminal or mental health issues how can someone just declare that they cannot be the parent to the child that they are biological parents of??

[Anonymous]

If this child is returned to the adoptive parents, it will be a travesty.

No parents who claim to love their child would agree to their life being disrupted again and again. She's been with her bio-Dad for 20 months and has thrived in his care. She's now 4 and will surely hurt and cry for him, if separated.

If they win this case, I hope adoption is outlawed in the US. This is an outrage. As usual, the rights of fathers are shit on. If this case were about the birth mother, this wouldn't even be a discussion.

[Anonymous]

Baby Veronica: South Carolina adoptive parents V Oklahoma birth father
JAN
24
Written by: Adoptions Together
1/24/2012 9:40 AM
Written by Susan Ogden | Domestic Program Director

In the past several weeks, there has been news coverage of the story of Baby Veronica, the two year old girl who was legally forced to leave her adoptive family. (You can read the full story here http://www.adoptivefamiliescircle.com/groups/topic/2_Year-Old_Girl_Returned_to_Biological_Father/)

It’s always very distressing to the community at large when a child is removed from an adoptive home and returned to her birth parent. This is especially distressing when the child is two years old and has been placed since birth. Adoption is designed to be a legal and permanent solution for children in need of families. Every state has laws that govern the type and timing of adoption consent and termination of parental rights and the revocation of that consent or objection to the adoption. According to the account in the news, the birth father attempted to assert his parental rights when the child was an infant. Also according to the news article, the father joined the tribe in order to invoke Indian Child Welfare Act (ICWA)regulations. ICWA does have the right to ensure a child of Native American heritage remain in the tribe. The father would have to prove his heritage and eligibility to be a tribal member. If the father revoked his consent within the time allocated by the law, then his rights take precedence and the judge was correct in ordering Veronica’s return.

This story is replete with loss. It’s sad and painful for the adoptive parents. And it will cause some trauma and stress for the toddler to be removed from her familiar family and placed with her father who is a virtual stranger at this time. It will most likely not cause her serious harm for a lifetime. The birth father has also lost two years of time with his child. It’s too bad the parties could not have cooperated in a mediated solution for ongoing contact between the child and her father. When adoption becomes adversarial child centered solutions are elusive.

Adoption works well when both biological parents are involved in the decision and understand their rights. Adoption works well and is permanent and stable for children and families if both birth parents are counseled by adoption workers and represented by attorneys. If the birth father attempted to assert his rights in a timely and legal manner, then he should be awarded custody. Like other famous Baby cases—Baby Jessica, Baby Richard—the fathers had rights they attempted to assert when the children were infants. The adoptive parents fought the removal. In both these cases the fathers were lied to, even defrauded, by their partners. This is not the way ethical adoption is practiced. It’s in the interest of children’s permanency and stability that their birth parents consent willingly and knowingly to their rights being terminated. This is not what happened in this case.



This agency is reputable...the one who handled Veronica Brown's adoption is not (Nightlight Christian Adoptions).

[Anonymous]

There is some buzz about the adoptive parent's separating...I guess the stress involved in buying a baby can wreak havoc on a marriage.

[Anonymous]

Keep her on Indian Reservation where they cannot get to her.

[Anonymous]

Hope this doesnt end up like wounded knee.

[Anonymous]

Sad
Sad
Sad

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:$$$40,000.00

If they want another, they will have to pay again

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hope this doesnt end up like wounded knee.

South Carolina would have no problem sending in the troops to slaughter those Native Americans to get to that little girl. How sad!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hope this doesnt end up like wounded knee.

South Carolina would have no problem sending in the troops to slaughter those Native Americans to get to that little girl. How sad!

Oh for fuck's sake you're being ridiculous. I've been on the fence about this, but it's clear your repeated flippant and exaggerated posts don't indicate that you have a rational, reasonable perspective on this case.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hope this doesnt end up like wounded knee.

South Carolina would have no problem sending in the troops to slaughter those Native Americans to get to that little girl. How sad!

Oh for fuck's sake you're being ridiculous. I've been on the fence about this, but it's clear your repeated flippant and exaggerated posts don't indicate that you have a rational, reasonable perspective on this case.

So, the South Carolina laws supercede federal laws in place to protect Native American rights? Reasonable perspective is because they are white and bought and paid for this child using a dubious agency that they are right?

Yeah, for fuck's safe get off your pedestal. Native Americans have rights and if Brown had serious money, high end lawyers, and less melanin, none of this would be happening whether you like it or not.