Why do I feel sympathetic towards the Dzhokhar Tsarnaev?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I also feel sadness for Dzhokhar. I also felt sadness for Lee Boyd Malvo, Dylan Klebold, Sam Manzie (http://www.nytimes.com/1999/08/08/nyregion/eddie-was-murdered-sam-s-doing-70-years-but-who-is-to-blame.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm), Seung-Hui Cho, and even Jeffrey Dahmer, who, as a child, had selective mutism and collected road kill and kept the bones of the dead animals displayed on poles in his backyard. There could not have been more obvious signs of a problem, and no one helped.

It saddens me that in so many of these tragic cases there were signs that people ignored and that help wasn't available for the mentally unstable who eventually became murderers. But sometimes even when family and friends try to get help for their loved ones, nothing is done (Sam Manzie being the best example of this I can think of in recent history).

It's not to say that I can't understand the outrage that some feel when hearing people express sympathy for the perpetrators. It just that I feel it is somewhat necessary to feel sadness for them, because the ability to realize that we may not know the whole picture, and that we are so very fortunate that it wasn't our son or nephew doing the killing - that perspective is what keeps us human and it's what will hopefully help us spot the next one before it's too late.

Bleeding heart drivel, makes me want to hurl. Wake.up.

You are sad. So, so, sad. All of this saddens you. Well guess what? It makes me so &*(()(*& angry that I would be happy to execute the death penalty on them myself. And I am not "so very fortunate" that it was not my son or nephew who did the killing. You see, it would never be my son or nephew, because people in my family are not raised by mothers who steal merchandise from department stores, fathers who abandon the family and people who think it's cool and OK to be on public assistance for years.

I'm sad foe YOU. I hope you get help for your anger problem. It's not healthy to be so hostile toward compete strangers just because they have a different opinion than you. And I also hope that your pride doesn't come before a fall, since you're so confident that it could never happen to your family.

Only someone with a brain as soft as yours would read anger at another poster into this. If you would get off of your shrink's couch and read this again, the PP said that s/he is angry at the KILLERS. Not the PPs who have different opinions.

[Anonymous]

I don't understand the sympathy=dumb comment. Care to explain?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:FWIW, I felt EXACTLY the same about Lee Malvo and the snipers so it is not race (nice try, Mr. or Ms. Racecard).

You are so incredibly naive. You think that because a small handful of upper class people (who are statistically over represented on a forum like DCUM) feel the same regardless of race that EVERYONE does? Grow up. The fact is that while there is some small percentage of the educated white majority that may be color blind and feel the same regardless of race, in the larger population, there is a significant amount of subconscious racism where people do feel differently based on race. You only have to look at polls, statistics and demographic studies to see the effect. As I pointed out earlier, do a Google search on "sympathy <your killer of choice>" and look at the significantly larger number of hits that you get with white killers vs minority killers. Look at the studies about "driving while black" or the general reactions of when violent crime victims are white vs minority. The is a huge amount of data reflecting the fact that there is still a lot of race bias out there.

But go ahead, put your rose-colored glasses back on and settle back into your sheltered little world where these things don't exist.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I also feel sadness for Dzhokhar. I also felt sadness for Lee Boyd Malvo, Dylan Klebold, Sam Manzie (http://www.nytimes.com/1999/08/08/nyregion/eddie-was-murdered-sam-s-doing-70-years-but-who-is-to-blame.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm), Seung-Hui Cho, and even Jeffrey Dahmer, who, as a child, had selective mutism and collected road kill and kept the bones of the dead animals displayed on poles in his backyard. There could not have been more obvious signs of a problem, and no one helped.

It saddens me that in so many of these tragic cases there were signs that people ignored and that help wasn't available for the mentally unstable who eventually became murderers. But sometimes even when family and friends try to get help for their loved ones, nothing is done (Sam Manzie being the best example of this I can think of in recent history).

It's not to say that I can't understand the outrage that some feel when hearing people express sympathy for the perpetrators. It just that I feel it is somewhat necessary to feel sadness for them, because the ability to realize that we may not know the whole picture, and that we are so very fortunate that it wasn't our son or nephew doing the killing - that perspective is what keeps us human and it's what will hopefully help us spot the next one before it's too late.

Bleeding heart drivel, makes me want to hurl. Wake.up.

You are sad. So, so, sad. All of this saddens you. Well guess what? It makes me so &*(()(*& angry that I would be happy to execute the death penalty on them myself. And I am not "so very fortunate" that it was not my son or nephew who did the killing. You see, it would never be my son or nephew, because people in my family are not raised by mothers who steal merchandise from department stores, fathers who abandon the family and people who think it's cool and OK to be on public assistance for years.

I'm sad foe YOU. I hope you get help for your anger problem. It's not healthy to be so hostile toward compete strangers just because they have a different opinion than you. And I also hope that your pride doesn't come before a fall, since you're so confident that it could never happen to your family.

Only someone with a brain as soft as yours would read anger at another poster into this. If you would get off of your shrink's couch and read this again, the PP said that s/he is angry at the KILLERS. Not the PPs who have different opinions.

Yet you have to resort to insults to get your point across. So much anger and hostility. Thanks for illustrating my point.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I also feel sadness for Dzhokhar. I also felt sadness for Lee Boyd Malvo, Dylan Klebold, Sam Manzie (http://www.nytimes.com/1999/08/08/nyregion/eddie-was-murdered-sam-s-doing-70-years-but-who-is-to-blame.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm), Seung-Hui Cho, and even Jeffrey Dahmer, who, as a child, had selective mutism and collected road kill and kept the bones of the dead animals displayed on poles in his backyard. There could not have been more obvious signs of a problem, and no one helped.

It saddens me that in so many of these tragic cases there were signs that people ignored and that help wasn't available for the mentally unstable who eventually became murderers. But sometimes even when family and friends try to get help for their loved ones, nothing is done (Sam Manzie being the best example of this I can think of in recent history).

It's not to say that I can't understand the outrage that some feel when hearing people express sympathy for the perpetrators. It just that I feel it is somewhat necessary to feel sadness for them, because the ability to realize that we may not know the whole picture, and that we are so very fortunate that it wasn't our son or nephew doing the killing - that perspective is what keeps us human and it's what will hopefully help us spot the next one before it's too late.

Bleeding heart drivel, makes me want to hurl. Wake.up.

You are sad. So, so, sad. All of this saddens you. Well guess what? It makes me so &*(()(*& angry that I would be happy to execute the death penalty on them myself. And I am not "so very fortunate" that it was not my son or nephew who did the killing. You see, it would never be my son or nephew, because people in my family are not raised by mothers who steal merchandise from department stores, fathers who abandon the family and people who think it's cool and OK to be on public assistance for years.

I'm sad foe YOU. I hope you get help for your anger problem. It's not healthy to be so hostile toward compete strangers just because they have a different opinion than you. And I also hope that your pride doesn't come before a fall, since you're so confident that it could never happen to your family.

Only someone with a brain as soft as yours would read anger at another poster into this. If you would get off of your shrink's couch and read this again, the PP said that s/he is angry at the KILLERS. Not the PPs who have different opinions.

Yet you have to resort to insults to get your point across. So much anger and hostility. Thanks for illustrating my point.

Sooooooo much anger. So, so, so much anger. What are going to do with all this anger in the world? It's such a terrible (I mean "sad") thing, isn't it, that Islamic terrorists want us all dead. Heaven forbid that we should be "angry."

[Anonymous]

Those family pictures of the brothers were interesting. Tamerlan was a sweet baby once. The whole scenario is outrageous and tragic. For everyone. And I have news for those who continue to denigrate the sympathy for Dzhokhar --There are many who feel this sympathy. This sentiment will continue to build. Many people want to make sure this kid didn't get railroaded into a crime not of his making. Many want his rights to be assured as the US citizen he is. There is more to the story than we know.

[Anonymous]

Those family pictures of the brothers were interesting. Tamerlan was a sweet baby once.

Well, if we were shown pictures of his brother, I am sure that people would say he was a "sweet" baby once, and yet, I don't hear the masses cal for sympathy toward him. Maybe we should look at baby pictures of the people he looked in the eye before he blew them apart. Those are the "sweet" faces that matter the most.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Those family pictures of the brothers were interesting. Tamerlan was a sweet baby once. The whole scenario is outrageous and tragic. For everyone. And I have news for those who continue to denigrate the sympathy for Dzhokhar --There are many who feel this sympathy. This sentiment will continue to build. Many people want to make sure this kid didn't get railroaded into a crime not of his making. Many want his rights to be assured as the US citizen he is. There is more to the story than we know.

Yep, there is alot more to the story, and it sure doesn't look good for Dzhohkar. Sorry.

[Anonymous]

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If anything, I feel worse for an individual like Adam Lanza. He could not help his mental condition, it was literally outside his control. Of course, he does not have to live with the consequences of his actions as the Boston bomber will. But I cannot imagine the anguish and torment that Lanza must have lived with that caused him to kill little children, his mother , and himself.

I just threw up a little.

But seriously, there are personality types that do not feel remorse or anguish.

Hmm, seriously? You have sympathy for Dzhokhar, but not Adam? If you were operating on a purely humanistic level, would you not have the same amount of sympathy for each?

[Anonymous]

Ahh who is this lil' punkin?



Jeffrey Dahmer

and this lil' cowpoke?
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Ted Bundy

And this sweet angel from high?



Ossama Bin Laden


If only we had been able to get to them sooner......

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Those family pictures of the brothers were interesting. Tamerlan was a sweet baby once. The whole scenario is outrageous and tragic. For everyone. And I have news for those who continue to denigrate the sympathy for Dzhokhar --There are many who feel this sympathy. This sentiment will continue to build. Many people want to make sure this kid didn't get railroaded into a crime not of his making. Many want his rights to be assured as the US citizen he is. There is more to the story than we know.

Huh? What are you talking about? It's pretty clear he killed people by dropping a bomb at their feet...I'm pretty sure that qualifies as "making a crime." What rights are you worried about him not getting?

What about the right to watch your dad complete a marathon without being blown to bits by a piece of shit?

[Anonymous]

I was just thinking the other day about poor Scott Peterson. That handsome, darling man who got railroaded into marriage and family by that little harlot. I can't help think about how we could have helped him. Where was the village when this poor poor man fell from grace?

[Anonymous]

I just can't help it, but when I see photos of John Wayne Gacy, I just want to cry. He had so much life in him, and so much to give. If only his mother, and father would have recognized this. It is too bad I wasn't born yet. I could have married him instead of one of the other three husbands I couldn't help, and I could have changed him.

[Anonymous]

http://www.boston.com/yourtown/specials/bedside_transcript_dzhokhar_tsarnaev/

Dzhokhar was formally charged today with his court-appointed attorneys present. He was awake and was able to answer 'no' at one point, so we know he can still speak. There was some question as to whether his gunshot injury would impair his speech. His next hearing will be Probable Cause on May 30.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was just thinking the other day about poor Scott Peterson. That handsome, darling man who got railroaded into marriage and family by that little harlot. I can't help think about how we could have helped him. Where was the village when this poor poor man fell from grace?

LOL, point taken.