Measles Outbreak

[Anonymous]

This conversation reminds me of the conversations here on DCUM during early COVID. One poster was obsessed with the recovery rate of people on vents, and tried to say the ventilators were causing the deaths.

Measles is a virus. Once it invades the brain, all the supportive care in the world won’t keep every kid alive. A significant percentage will die, and an even greater percentage will have permanent brain damage. This is why we vaccinate our children. Once the decision is made not to vaccinate, this is one of the risks parents are taking.

There’s no amount of medical care that can reverse or cure measles.

[Anonymous]

The appropriate medical management was to keep him under professional observation. It sounds like the mother went against medical advice to refuse vaccination, and then she went against medical advice to take him home.

Legally, she gets to make both of those decisions. It's her call. It's also her responsibility.

It sounds like she then kept him home for a couple of days before taking him to a different hospital. It's not like he was so sick she felt she couldn't take care of him at home.

You know what's the only decision in all of this which would have a high probability of a good outcome for the child? To have vaccinated him. But that's her choice and her responsibility, as is taking him home and thinking she knows better. She gets to do that. Poor kid, she stills says she thinks this is better than having given him a vaccine. What a piece of work.

[Anonymous]

Felony murder for every unvaccinated adult (or parent f unvaccinated child) who infects another person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I think there is this general expectation that if you refuse to vaccinate, and your child gets sick, then the professionals can just fix it.

But they can't always -- once your child gets measles, or diphtheria, or pertussis, everyone is already behind the eight ball with you. They are guessing and running and struggling, and doing the things they hope will work, but no guarantees.

That is why there are vaccinations for these illnesses. No intervention is as safe or effective as the vaccine that prevents your child from getting as sick as without it.

This! So odd to rely on doctors, when you didn’t beforehand.

1000x

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Felony murder for every unvaccinated adult (or parent f unvaccinated child) who infects another person.

No, but difference insurance rates. In this case, the weight of the mother knowing everyone she criticized was right, that people will always be whispering about her behind her back if not to her face, that all of the arguments she ever had about this were ones she lost, and everyone knows it.

And most horribly, the weight of the responsibility for her son's damage,e ven if he survives. That her choices led to this.

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Thanks, MAGA! We are pathetic. Make America Godforsaken Again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This conversation reminds me of the conversations here on DCUM during early COVID. One poster was obsessed with the recovery rate of people on vents, and tried to say the ventilators were causing the deaths.

Measles is a virus. Once it invades the brain, all the supportive care in the world won’t keep every kid alive. A significant percentage will die, and an even greater percentage will have permanent brain damage. This is why we vaccinate our children. Once the decision is made not to vaccinate, this is one of the risks parents are taking.

Y'all cain't take away mah freedom.

[Anonymous]

It’s both extremes not vaccinating. Both the ultra conservative right AND the hippy dippy crunchy granola let’s give birth at home and send our kids to Waldorf or unschool them parents.

Unless a medical doctor gives a valid reason why a child shouldn’t have the measles vaccine it should be mandatory.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s both extremes not vaccinating. Both the ultra conservative right AND the hippy dippy crunchy granola let’s give birth at home and send our kids to Waldorf or unschool them parents.

Unless a medical doctor gives a valid reason why a child shouldn’t have the measles vaccine it should be mandatory.

A lot of times these people are one in the same. Libertarian conservatives

[Anonymous]

A libertarian conservative wants maximum freedom for themselves while also telling others they should be controlled if they don't fit the libertarian conservative viewpoint. A lot of these people are impulsive narcissists who do not have a good balance for themselves between discipline and flexibility.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
The appropriate medical management was to keep him under professional observation. It sounds like the mother went against medical advice to refuse vaccination, and then she went against medical advice to take him home.

Legally, she gets to make both of those decisions. It's her call. It's also her responsibility.

It sounds like she then kept him home for a couple of days before taking him to a different hospital. It's not like he was so sick she felt she couldn't take care of him at home.

You know what's the only decision in all of this which would have a high probability of a good outcome for the child? To have vaccinated him. But that's her choice and her responsibility, as is taking him home and thinking she knows better. She gets to do that. Poor kid, she stills says she thinks this is better than having given him a vaccine. What a piece of work.

+1. Sounds like CPS needs to pay this family a visit. When a parent’s lack of intelligence and care starts resulting in the death of her children, the state has an interest in ensuring the other kids are not also killed by her stupidity.

I hope this woman sues so the hospital lawyers can absolutely shred her on the stand. She should be reminded that she murdered her child every waking minute of the rest of her life. Beat it into her functionally r*tarded head until she gets it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Felony murder for every unvaccinated adult (or parent f unvaccinated child) who infects another person.

No, but difference insurance rates. In this case, the weight of the mother knowing everyone she criticized was right, that people will always be whispering about her behind her back if not to her face, that all of the arguments she ever had about this were ones she lost, and everyone knows it.

And most horribly, the weight of the responsibility for her son's damage,e ven if he survives. That her choices led to this.

She’s not going to accept responsibility until she’s forced to do so. People are going to tell her it’s “God’s will” or the “hospital’s fault”, like the child of every stupid antivaxxer parent is entitled to a personal Dr. House and 2 week stay in the PICU for basic monitoring when their kids get the viruses the vaccines would prevent. She won’t do a single thing differently because that’s how these rockskulled idiots work.

She’s a murderer. Put it in the file, introduce her as a murderer, shame her until she dies, preferably at her own hand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s both extremes not vaccinating. Both the ultra conservative right AND the hippy dippy crunchy granola let’s give birth at home and send our kids to Waldorf or unschool them parents.

Unless a medical doctor gives a valid reason why a child shouldn’t have the measles vaccine it should be mandatory.

We know we know MAHA is a weird combo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I don't think you understand that this cannot be true, because ti is 2026, and we have modern plumbing, and also children are better nourished.

Imma gonna reject your reality and make up my own.