Virtual Learning - Why Not MCPS?

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Anonymous wrote:Why not virtual learning? Because the vast majority of MoCo parents don't want it.
Simple as that.
End of thread.

Oh man. I think you’d be surprised if you actually gave people the choice between a virtual learning day or two to check a box and an extra week of school into late June to also check a box.

Let them pick the other options in the calendar. No reason it has to be at the end of June.

I agree and I think they should use March 20 & April 15 and ask for a waiver first before tapping June. I do not support touching Spring Break. That would be a giant morale issue.

I don't think they can even take from Spring Break, they didn't label them as possible make up days. The options are March 20, April 15, June 18, and then the 22-25.

Great. Let's use those three and see if that's enough for a waiver.

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Anonymous wrote:Man, I know that there are some pandemic-era parents whose kids had a hard time and are kind of scarre from those days, but can y'all try to step back and be rational rather than react emotionally from a "I hated the COVID year" place? The rest of us are tired of our kids losing multiple days of education every year due to snow days and would like our kids to actually get some learning in rather than those useless last few days of school. We get it, not all kids learn well online, but you guys act like it's the end of the world .. pretty clearly some kind of trauma response, and again, I get it, but fake a breath and try to move through it.

You must be an online learner as you've failed to read this thread where it has been pointed out that:

1) Virtual learning didn't just fail during the pandemic. It also failed during summer school, which is why MCPS is dramatically scaling back on virtual summer school options this year
2) It tried to do an asynchronous learning day in the 2023-2024 school year. It went so poorly the state said MCPS cannot pivot to virtual instruction again with a robust, pressure tested, approved plan and structure to do so.

Insisting MCPS should do something, despite multiple failed attempts at doing so, just because you want them to is definitely a trauma response on your part. Or maybe it's just ignorance. I don't know. But you need to look in the mirror before you start psychoanalyzing anyone else.

Oh come on, you can't point to the asynchronous day two years ago as evidence virtual learning doesn't work. It was pretty clear it was supposed to work the same as the half-days in June, going through the motions of trying to count it as a day when it wasn't really going to be one. In our ES they just printed out a few worksheets and called it a day. Not at all comparable to teachers actually teaching regular lessons live over a computer.

Agree. And virtual learning did not fail all or most students in the summer. It failed the ones who had already failed courses and couldn’t be bothered to log on to do their credit recovery to get to graduation. Are we supposed to eliminate an entire option because our least engaged students, who are often chronic absentees for a variety of reasons, might not log on during a snow day?

Your privilege is showing. Your vacation is not more important than kids' education.

Oh you're on this thread too, attacking people's vacations. Jealous you can't take one?

Next time wait until after the school calendar is fully over when you schedule your vacation. We all knew the one extra day built-in wouldn't be enough and they'd have to use make-up days. The problem you're finding yourself in is all on you and your poor decisions.

And I'm not the only one making these comments.

The days in June are a waste of time, based on last year's experience. Most kids weren't there, and they spent the half days doing nothing but watching movies. The time would have been better spent being outdoors, at a pool, at camp, literally anywhere than a school building after school was supposed to end.

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Anonymous wrote:Man, I know that there are some pandemic-era parents whose kids had a hard time and are kind of scarre from those days, but can y'all try to step back and be rational rather than react emotionally from a "I hated the COVID year" place? The rest of us are tired of our kids losing multiple days of education every year due to snow days and would like our kids to actually get some learning in rather than those useless last few days of school. We get it, not all kids learn well online, but you guys act like it's the end of the world .. pretty clearly some kind of trauma response, and again, I get it, but fake a breath and try to move through it.

You must be an online learner as you've failed to read this thread where it has been pointed out that:

1) Virtual learning didn't just fail during the pandemic. It also failed during summer school, which is why MCPS is dramatically scaling back on virtual summer school options this year
2) It tried to do an asynchronous learning day in the 2023-2024 school year. It went so poorly the state said MCPS cannot pivot to virtual instruction again with a robust, pressure tested, approved plan and structure to do so.

Insisting MCPS should do something, despite multiple failed attempts at doing so, just because you want them to is definitely a trauma response on your part. Or maybe it's just ignorance. I don't know. But you need to look in the mirror before you start psychoanalyzing anyone else.

Oh come on, you can't point to the asynchronous day two years ago as evidence virtual learning doesn't work. It was pretty clear it was supposed to work the same as the half-days in June, going through the motions of trying to count it as a day when it wasn't really going to be one. In our ES they just printed out a few worksheets and called it a day. Not at all comparable to teachers actually teaching regular lessons live over a computer.

Agree. And virtual learning did not fail all or most students in the summer. It failed the ones who had already failed courses and couldn’t be bothered to log on to do their credit recovery to get to graduation. Are we supposed to eliminate an entire option because our least engaged students, who are often chronic absentees for a variety of reasons, might not log on during a snow day?

Your privilege is showing. Your vacation is not more important than kids' education.

Oh you're on this thread too, attacking people's vacations. Jealous you can't take one?

Next time wait until after the school calendar is fully over when you schedule your vacation. We all knew the one extra day built-in wouldn't be enough and they'd have to use make-up days. The problem you're finding yourself in is all on you and your poor decisions.

And I'm not the only one making these comments.

NP. You're suggesting that people wait until June to schedule summer vacations? That's not a serious suggestion. That's a person saying whatever dumb thing they can because they're addicted to Internet fighting.

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Anonymous wrote:Man, I know that there are some pandemic-era parents whose kids had a hard time and are kind of scarre from those days, but can y'all try to step back and be rational rather than react emotionally from a "I hated the COVID year" place? The rest of us are tired of our kids losing multiple days of education every year due to snow days and would like our kids to actually get some learning in rather than those useless last few days of school. We get it, not all kids learn well online, but you guys act like it's the end of the world .. pretty clearly some kind of trauma response, and again, I get it, but fake a breath and try to move through it.

You must be an online learner as you've failed to read this thread where it has been pointed out that:

1) Virtual learning didn't just fail during the pandemic. It also failed during summer school, which is why MCPS is dramatically scaling back on virtual summer school options this year
2) It tried to do an asynchronous learning day in the 2023-2024 school year. It went so poorly the state said MCPS cannot pivot to virtual instruction again with a robust, pressure tested, approved plan and structure to do so.

Insisting MCPS should do something, despite multiple failed attempts at doing so, just because you want them to is definitely a trauma response on your part. Or maybe it's just ignorance. I don't know. But you need to look in the mirror before you start psychoanalyzing anyone else.

Oh come on, you can't point to the asynchronous day two years ago as evidence virtual learning doesn't work. It was pretty clear it was supposed to work the same as the half-days in June, going through the motions of trying to count it as a day when it wasn't really going to be one. In our ES they just printed out a few worksheets and called it a day. Not at all comparable to teachers actually teaching regular lessons live over a computer.

Agree. And virtual learning did not fail all or most students in the summer. It failed the ones who had already failed courses and couldn’t be bothered to log on to do their credit recovery to get to graduation. Are we supposed to eliminate an entire option because our least engaged students, who are often chronic absentees for a variety of reasons, might not log on during a snow day?

Your privilege is showing. Your vacation is not more important than kids' education.

My kid will get more out of vacation than sitting in a hot school (because god forbid MCPS upgrades the HVAC in his school) for half days spent watching movies in a half empty classroom.

March 20 and April 15 shouldn't be hot. June 18 might be, but they'll manage. MCPS should add real school days.

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Anonymous wrote:Man, I know that there are some pandemic-era parents whose kids had a hard time and are kind of scarre from those days, but can y'all try to step back and be rational rather than react emotionally from a "I hated the COVID year" place? The rest of us are tired of our kids losing multiple days of education every year due to snow days and would like our kids to actually get some learning in rather than those useless last few days of school. We get it, not all kids learn well online, but you guys act like it's the end of the world .. pretty clearly some kind of trauma response, and again, I get it, but fake a breath and try to move through it.

You must be an online learner as you've failed to read this thread where it has been pointed out that:

1) Virtual learning didn't just fail during the pandemic. It also failed during summer school, which is why MCPS is dramatically scaling back on virtual summer school options this year
2) It tried to do an asynchronous learning day in the 2023-2024 school year. It went so poorly the state said MCPS cannot pivot to virtual instruction again with a robust, pressure tested, approved plan and structure to do so.

Insisting MCPS should do something, despite multiple failed attempts at doing so, just because you want them to is definitely a trauma response on your part. Or maybe it's just ignorance. I don't know. But you need to look in the mirror before you start psychoanalyzing anyone else.

Oh come on, you can't point to the asynchronous day two years ago as evidence virtual learning doesn't work. It was pretty clear it was supposed to work the same as the half-days in June, going through the motions of trying to count it as a day when it wasn't really going to be one. In our ES they just printed out a few worksheets and called it a day. Not at all comparable to teachers actually teaching regular lessons live over a computer.

Agree. And virtual learning did not fail all or most students in the summer. It failed the ones who had already failed courses and couldn’t be bothered to log on to do their credit recovery to get to graduation. Are we supposed to eliminate an entire option because our least engaged students, who are often chronic absentees for a variety of reasons, might not log on during a snow day?

Your privilege is showing. Your vacation is not more important than kids' education.

Oh you're on this thread too, attacking people's vacations. Jealous you can't take one?

Next time wait until after the school calendar is fully over when you schedule your vacation. We all knew the one extra day built-in wouldn't be enough and they'd have to use make-up days. The problem you're finding yourself in is all on you and your poor decisions.

And I'm not the only one making these comments.

NP. You're suggesting that people wait until June to schedule summer vacations? That's not a serious suggestion. That's a person saying whatever dumb thing they can because they're addicted to Internet fighting.

No, I'm saying they shouldn't schedule them on days that have *already* been identified as make-up days. Look at the school calendar before you schedule your vacation.

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Anonymous wrote:Man, I know that there are some pandemic-era parents whose kids had a hard time and are kind of scarre from those days, but can y'all try to step back and be rational rather than react emotionally from a "I hated the COVID year" place? The rest of us are tired of our kids losing multiple days of education every year due to snow days and would like our kids to actually get some learning in rather than those useless last few days of school. We get it, not all kids learn well online, but you guys act like it's the end of the world .. pretty clearly some kind of trauma response, and again, I get it, but fake a breath and try to move through it.

You must be an online learner as you've failed to read this thread where it has been pointed out that:

1) Virtual learning didn't just fail during the pandemic. It also failed during summer school, which is why MCPS is dramatically scaling back on virtual summer school options this year
2) It tried to do an asynchronous learning day in the 2023-2024 school year. It went so poorly the state said MCPS cannot pivot to virtual instruction again with a robust, pressure tested, approved plan and structure to do so.

Insisting MCPS should do something, despite multiple failed attempts at doing so, just because you want them to is definitely a trauma response on your part. Or maybe it's just ignorance. I don't know. But you need to look in the mirror before you start psychoanalyzing anyone else.

Oh come on, you can't point to the asynchronous day two years ago as evidence virtual learning doesn't work. It was pretty clear it was supposed to work the same as the half-days in June, going through the motions of trying to count it as a day when it wasn't really going to be one. In our ES they just printed out a few worksheets and called it a day. Not at all comparable to teachers actually teaching regular lessons live over a computer.

Agree. And virtual learning did not fail all or most students in the summer. It failed the ones who had already failed courses and couldn’t be bothered to log on to do their credit recovery to get to graduation. Are we supposed to eliminate an entire option because our least engaged students, who are often chronic absentees for a variety of reasons, might not log on during a snow day?

Your privilege is showing. Your vacation is not more important than kids' education.

My kid will get more out of vacation than sitting in a hot school (because god forbid MCPS upgrades the HVAC in his school) for half days spent watching movies in a half empty classroom.

March 20 and April 15 shouldn't be hot. June 18 might be, but they'll manage. MCPS should add real school days.

Yes they should, which is why the days in June are not a serious option, just MCPS checking off a box for the state. They should put more days within the bounds of the school year. And we don't need 2 contingency days in fall before there's ever a threat of snow. Shift those to the spring when we can actually use them.

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Anonymous wrote:Man, I know that there are some pandemic-era parents whose kids had a hard time and are kind of scarre from those days, but can y'all try to step back and be rational rather than react emotionally from a "I hated the COVID year" place? The rest of us are tired of our kids losing multiple days of education every year due to snow days and would like our kids to actually get some learning in rather than those useless last few days of school. We get it, not all kids learn well online, but you guys act like it's the end of the world .. pretty clearly some kind of trauma response, and again, I get it, but fake a breath and try to move through it.

You must be an online learner as you've failed to read this thread where it has been pointed out that:

1) Virtual learning didn't just fail during the pandemic. It also failed during summer school, which is why MCPS is dramatically scaling back on virtual summer school options this year
2) It tried to do an asynchronous learning day in the 2023-2024 school year. It went so poorly the state said MCPS cannot pivot to virtual instruction again with a robust, pressure tested, approved plan and structure to do so.

Insisting MCPS should do something, despite multiple failed attempts at doing so, just because you want them to is definitely a trauma response on your part. Or maybe it's just ignorance. I don't know. But you need to look in the mirror before you start psychoanalyzing anyone else.

Oh come on, you can't point to the asynchronous day two years ago as evidence virtual learning doesn't work. It was pretty clear it was supposed to work the same as the half-days in June, going through the motions of trying to count it as a day when it wasn't really going to be one. In our ES they just printed out a few worksheets and called it a day. Not at all comparable to teachers actually teaching regular lessons live over a computer.

Agree. And virtual learning did not fail all or most students in the summer. It failed the ones who had already failed courses and couldn’t be bothered to log on to do their credit recovery to get to graduation. Are we supposed to eliminate an entire option because our least engaged students, who are often chronic absentees for a variety of reasons, might not log on during a snow day?

Your privilege is showing. Your vacation is not more important than kids' education.

Oh you're on this thread too, attacking people's vacations. Jealous you can't take one?

Next time wait until after the school calendar is fully over when you schedule your vacation. We all knew the one extra day built-in wouldn't be enough and they'd have to use make-up days. The problem you're finding yourself in is all on you and your poor decisions.

And I'm not the only one making these comments.

The days in June are a waste of time, based on last year's experience. Most kids weren't there, and they spent the half days doing nothing but watching movies. The time would have been better spent being outdoors, at a pool, at camp, literally anywhere than a school building after school was supposed to end.

Most people here seem to think MCPS should use the earlier make-up days.

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Anonymous wrote:Man, I know that there are some pandemic-era parents whose kids had a hard time and are kind of scarre from those days, but can y'all try to step back and be rational rather than react emotionally from a "I hated the COVID year" place? The rest of us are tired of our kids losing multiple days of education every year due to snow days and would like our kids to actually get some learning in rather than those useless last few days of school. We get it, not all kids learn well online, but you guys act like it's the end of the world .. pretty clearly some kind of trauma response, and again, I get it, but fake a breath and try to move through it.

You must be an online learner as you've failed to read this thread where it has been pointed out that:

1) Virtual learning didn't just fail during the pandemic. It also failed during summer school, which is why MCPS is dramatically scaling back on virtual summer school options this year
2) It tried to do an asynchronous learning day in the 2023-2024 school year. It went so poorly the state said MCPS cannot pivot to virtual instruction again with a robust, pressure tested, approved plan and structure to do so.

Insisting MCPS should do something, despite multiple failed attempts at doing so, just because you want them to is definitely a trauma response on your part. Or maybe it's just ignorance. I don't know. But you need to look in the mirror before you start psychoanalyzing anyone else.

Oh come on, you can't point to the asynchronous day two years ago as evidence virtual learning doesn't work. It was pretty clear it was supposed to work the same as the half-days in June, going through the motions of trying to count it as a day when it wasn't really going to be one. In our ES they just printed out a few worksheets and called it a day. Not at all comparable to teachers actually teaching regular lessons live over a computer.

Agree. And virtual learning did not fail all or most students in the summer. It failed the ones who had already failed courses and couldn’t be bothered to log on to do their credit recovery to get to graduation. Are we supposed to eliminate an entire option because our least engaged students, who are often chronic absentees for a variety of reasons, might not log on during a snow day?

Your privilege is showing. Your vacation is not more important than kids' education.

My kid will get more out of vacation than sitting in a hot school (because god forbid MCPS upgrades the HVAC in his school) for half days spent watching movies in a half empty classroom.

March 20 and April 15 shouldn't be hot. June 18 might be, but they'll manage. MCPS should add real school days.

Oh you're definitely right, 3/20 and 4/15 absolutely need to be used as makeup days. My issue is mainly the 22-25. Those are an absolute waste of time.

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Anonymous wrote:Man, I know that there are some pandemic-era parents whose kids had a hard time and are kind of scarre from those days, but can y'all try to step back and be rational rather than react emotionally from a "I hated the COVID year" place? The rest of us are tired of our kids losing multiple days of education every year due to snow days and would like our kids to actually get some learning in rather than those useless last few days of school. We get it, not all kids learn well online, but you guys act like it's the end of the world .. pretty clearly some kind of trauma response, and again, I get it, but fake a breath and try to move through it.

You must be an online learner as you've failed to read this thread where it has been pointed out that:

1) Virtual learning didn't just fail during the pandemic. It also failed during summer school, which is why MCPS is dramatically scaling back on virtual summer school options this year
2) It tried to do an asynchronous learning day in the 2023-2024 school year. It went so poorly the state said MCPS cannot pivot to virtual instruction again with a robust, pressure tested, approved plan and structure to do so.

Insisting MCPS should do something, despite multiple failed attempts at doing so, just because you want them to is definitely a trauma response on your part. Or maybe it's just ignorance. I don't know. But you need to look in the mirror before you start psychoanalyzing anyone else.

Oh come on, you can't point to the asynchronous day two years ago as evidence virtual learning doesn't work. It was pretty clear it was supposed to work the same as the half-days in June, going through the motions of trying to count it as a day when it wasn't really going to be one. In our ES they just printed out a few worksheets and called it a day. Not at all comparable to teachers actually teaching regular lessons live over a computer.

Agree. And virtual learning did not fail all or most students in the summer. It failed the ones who had already failed courses and couldn’t be bothered to log on to do their credit recovery to get to graduation. Are we supposed to eliminate an entire option because our least engaged students, who are often chronic absentees for a variety of reasons, might not log on during a snow day?

Your privilege is showing. Your vacation is not more important than kids' education.

Oh you're on this thread too, attacking people's vacations. Jealous you can't take one?

Next time wait until after the school calendar is fully over when you schedule your vacation. We all knew the one extra day built-in wouldn't be enough and they'd have to use make-up days. The problem you're finding yourself in is all on you and your poor decisions.

And I'm not the only one making these comments.

The days in June are a waste of time, based on last year's experience. Most kids weren't there, and they spent the half days doing nothing but watching movies. The time would have been better spent being outdoors, at a pool, at camp, literally anywhere than a school building after school was supposed to end.

Most people here seem to think MCPS should use the earlier make-up days.

Yeah, but the prior poster is coming after people who dare to take vacations (on several threads). People probably aren't planning "fancy" vacations for 3/20 or 4/15. I guess they could utilize the long weekend in March to go away, but spring break is right after that, so probably not.

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Anonymous wrote:Man, I know that there are some pandemic-era parents whose kids had a hard time and are kind of scarre from those days, but can y'all try to step back and be rational rather than react emotionally from a "I hated the COVID year" place? The rest of us are tired of our kids losing multiple days of education every year due to snow days and would like our kids to actually get some learning in rather than those useless last few days of school. We get it, not all kids learn well online, but you guys act like it's the end of the world .. pretty clearly some kind of trauma response, and again, I get it, but fake a breath and try to move through it.

You must be an online learner as you've failed to read this thread where it has been pointed out that:

1) Virtual learning didn't just fail during the pandemic. It also failed during summer school, which is why MCPS is dramatically scaling back on virtual summer school options this year
2) It tried to do an asynchronous learning day in the 2023-2024 school year. It went so poorly the state said MCPS cannot pivot to virtual instruction again with a robust, pressure tested, approved plan and structure to do so.

Insisting MCPS should do something, despite multiple failed attempts at doing so, just because you want them to is definitely a trauma response on your part. Or maybe it's just ignorance. I don't know. But you need to look in the mirror before you start psychoanalyzing anyone else.

Oh come on, you can't point to the asynchronous day two years ago as evidence virtual learning doesn't work. It was pretty clear it was supposed to work the same as the half-days in June, going through the motions of trying to count it as a day when it wasn't really going to be one. In our ES they just printed out a few worksheets and called it a day. Not at all comparable to teachers actually teaching regular lessons live over a computer.

Agree. And virtual learning did not fail all or most students in the summer. It failed the ones who had already failed courses and couldn’t be bothered to log on to do their credit recovery to get to graduation. Are we supposed to eliminate an entire option because our least engaged students, who are often chronic absentees for a variety of reasons, might not log on during a snow day?

Your privilege is showing. Your vacation is not more important than kids' education.

So you want us to go until the end of June because you think the kids who won’t log on to virtual will definitely show up in late June for meaningful education? My kids learned plenty during virtual. They did not learn anything during those silly June days tacked on last year, where grades were already turned in and teachers literally told kids not to come. I totally value education and I don’t have a vacation planned. I’m literally coming at this thinking more can be taught now than later.

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Anonymous wrote:Man, I know that there are some pandemic-era parents whose kids had a hard time and are kind of scarre from those days, but can y'all try to step back and be rational rather than react emotionally from a "I hated the COVID year" place? The rest of us are tired of our kids losing multiple days of education every year due to snow days and would like our kids to actually get some learning in rather than those useless last few days of school. We get it, not all kids learn well online, but you guys act like it's the end of the world .. pretty clearly some kind of trauma response, and again, I get it, but fake a breath and try to move through it.

You must be an online learner as you've failed to read this thread where it has been pointed out that:

1) Virtual learning didn't just fail during the pandemic. It also failed during summer school, which is why MCPS is dramatically scaling back on virtual summer school options this year
2) It tried to do an asynchronous learning day in the 2023-2024 school year. It went so poorly the state said MCPS cannot pivot to virtual instruction again with a robust, pressure tested, approved plan and structure to do so.

Insisting MCPS should do something, despite multiple failed attempts at doing so, just because you want them to is definitely a trauma response on your part. Or maybe it's just ignorance. I don't know. But you need to look in the mirror before you start psychoanalyzing anyone else.

Oh come on, you can't point to the asynchronous day two years ago as evidence virtual learning doesn't work. It was pretty clear it was supposed to work the same as the half-days in June, going through the motions of trying to count it as a day when it wasn't really going to be one. In our ES they just printed out a few worksheets and called it a day. Not at all comparable to teachers actually teaching regular lessons live over a computer.

Agree. And virtual learning did not fail all or most students in the summer. It failed the ones who had already failed courses and couldn’t be bothered to log on to do their credit recovery to get to graduation. Are we supposed to eliminate an entire option because our least engaged students, who are often chronic absentees for a variety of reasons, might not log on during a snow day?

Your privilege is showing. Your vacation is not more important than kids' education.

My kid will get more out of vacation than sitting in a hot school (because god forbid MCPS upgrades the HVAC in his school) for half days spent watching movies in a half empty classroom.

March 20 and April 15 shouldn't be hot. June 18 might be, but they'll manage. MCPS should add real school days.

Yes they should, which is why the days in June are not a serious option, just MCPS checking off a box for the state. They should put more days within the bounds of the school year. And we don't need 2 contingency days in fall before there's ever a threat of snow. Shift those to the spring when we can actually use them.

Yeah fall contingency days make no sense unless Thomas Taylor has a time machine.

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They need to have different solutions for different age groups. Virtual isn't good for young kids. But if you're in high school, and *especially* if you are in an AP class, if you can't do virtual for a few days, or even asynchronous learning, that's a problem. A lot of learning in college is independent, and the professor isn't always going to walk you through everything..

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Anonymous wrote:Man, I know that there are some pandemic-era parents whose kids had a hard time and are kind of scarre from those days, but can y'all try to step back and be rational rather than react emotionally from a "I hated the COVID year" place? The rest of us are tired of our kids losing multiple days of education every year due to snow days and would like our kids to actually get some learning in rather than those useless last few days of school. We get it, not all kids learn well online, but you guys act like it's the end of the world .. pretty clearly some kind of trauma response, and again, I get it, but fake a breath and try to move through it.

You must be an online learner as you've failed to read this thread where it has been pointed out that:

1) Virtual learning didn't just fail during the pandemic. It also failed during summer school, which is why MCPS is dramatically scaling back on virtual summer school options this year
2) It tried to do an asynchronous learning day in the 2023-2024 school year. It went so poorly the state said MCPS cannot pivot to virtual instruction again with a robust, pressure tested, approved plan and structure to do so.

Insisting MCPS should do something, despite multiple failed attempts at doing so, just because you want them to is definitely a trauma response on your part. Or maybe it's just ignorance. I don't know. But you need to look in the mirror before you start psychoanalyzing anyone else.

Oh come on, you can't point to the asynchronous day two years ago as evidence virtual learning doesn't work. It was pretty clear it was supposed to work the same as the half-days in June, going through the motions of trying to count it as a day when it wasn't really going to be one. In our ES they just printed out a few worksheets and called it a day. Not at all comparable to teachers actually teaching regular lessons live over a computer.

Agree. And virtual learning did not fail all or most students in the summer. It failed the ones who had already failed courses and couldn’t be bothered to log on to do their credit recovery to get to graduation. Are we supposed to eliminate an entire option because our least engaged students, who are often chronic absentees for a variety of reasons, might not log on during a snow day?

Your privilege is showing. Your vacation is not more important than kids' education.

My kid will get more out of vacation than sitting in a hot school (because god forbid MCPS upgrades the HVAC in his school) for half days spent watching movies in a half empty classroom.

March 20 and April 15 shouldn't be hot. June 18 might be, but they'll manage. MCPS should add real school days.

Yes they should, which is why the days in June are not a serious option, just MCPS checking off a box for the state. They should put more days within the bounds of the school year. And we don't need 2 contingency days in fall before there's ever a threat of snow. Shift those to the spring when we can actually use them.

The contingency days in the fall are there for other reasons of feigning equality

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Anonymous wrote:Man, I know that there are some pandemic-era parents whose kids had a hard time and are kind of scarre from those days, but can y'all try to step back and be rational rather than react emotionally from a "I hated the COVID year" place? The rest of us are tired of our kids losing multiple days of education every year due to snow days and would like our kids to actually get some learning in rather than those useless last few days of school. We get it, not all kids learn well online, but you guys act like it's the end of the world .. pretty clearly some kind of trauma response, and again, I get it, but fake a breath and try to move through it.

You must be an online learner as you've failed to read this thread where it has been pointed out that:

1) Virtual learning didn't just fail during the pandemic. It also failed during summer school, which is why MCPS is dramatically scaling back on virtual summer school options this year
2) It tried to do an asynchronous learning day in the 2023-2024 school year. It went so poorly the state said MCPS cannot pivot to virtual instruction again with a robust, pressure tested, approved plan and structure to do so.

Insisting MCPS should do something, despite multiple failed attempts at doing so, just because you want them to is definitely a trauma response on your part. Or maybe it's just ignorance. I don't know. But you need to look in the mirror before you start psychoanalyzing anyone else.

Oh come on, you can't point to the asynchronous day two years ago as evidence virtual learning doesn't work. It was pretty clear it was supposed to work the same as the half-days in June, going through the motions of trying to count it as a day when it wasn't really going to be one. In our ES they just printed out a few worksheets and called it a day. Not at all comparable to teachers actually teaching regular lessons live over a computer.

Agree. And virtual learning did not fail all or most students in the summer. It failed the ones who had already failed courses and couldn’t be bothered to log on to do their credit recovery to get to graduation. Are we supposed to eliminate an entire option because our least engaged students, who are often chronic absentees for a variety of reasons, might not log on during a snow day?

Your privilege is showing. Your vacation is not more important than kids' education.

Oh you're on this thread too, attacking people's vacations. Jealous you can't take one?

Next time wait until after the school calendar is fully over when you schedule your vacation. We all knew the one extra day built-in wouldn't be enough and they'd have to use make-up days. The problem you're finding yourself in is all on you and your poor decisions.

And I'm not the only one making these comments.

The days in June are a waste of time, based on last year's experience. Most kids weren't there, and they spent the half days doing nothing but watching movies. The time would have been better spent being outdoors, at a pool, at camp, literally anywhere than a school building after school was supposed to end.

I would much rather my kids have school now virtually online when the teacher can attempt to follow the curriculum. Older kids past grade 3 are on their Chromebooks as part of the curriculum all the time. They’re used to it.

Last year my kids attended all 3 makeup half days in June and all they did was watch videos and do puzzles. It was like a teacher sponsored play date with zero instruction. That’s ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:So much debate about something that is already settled in the law. They can’t do virtual learning because they never submitted a plan to the state, because they didn’t think it would work. It’s over.

Other Maryland school districts did. Anne Arundel, Baltimore in Maryland are doing virtual today.

Alexandria is doing virtual learning now too. DCPS did virtual yesterday and is in person today.

It’s just MCPS with its billion dollar budget that could take a field trip to Baltimore and Anne Arundel and learn how to submit a virtual learning plan and include more than 1 snow day in its calendar from its peers.