Virtual Learning - Why Not MCPS?

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Anonymous wrote:I would support distance learning during extended closure. Like if conditions are truly dangerous and school needs to be closed for more than a week, they could offer some kind of instruction. For ES, they could mail packets home. I would support using this to reduce makeup days by up to 2 days per week of closure (after one week)

Mail?

I just got mail delivered for the first time in a week yesterday.

Meanwhile, someone has to be able to get to work to
1) print each teacher’s packets.
2) copy all of those packets.
3) stuff envelopes
4) address the envelopes.
and 5) drop all of the envelopes off at the post office.

I think the idea is stupid, but presumably the pp meant email.

Which is even crazier because I'd imagine like 60% of the county doesn't have a printer in their home. And I'm not just talking the FARMS kids. I make 6 figures and have not owned a home printer in over a decade. No need to have one when I can print everything at the office.

You can clearly get online no problem so they can do the work online or buy a printer.

No one requires printed materials for a few days, except the K-3 who don’t have 1:1 Chromebooks. Everyone else is fine.

And if the MCPs Central Office had heeded the warning about the big storm that everyone was predicting, they could have had Elementary schools send home packets with the youngest learners. They just suck at planning and prefer to complain that conditions are bad and they can’t do anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would support distance learning during extended closure. Like if conditions are truly dangerous and school needs to be closed for more than a week, they could offer some kind of instruction. For ES, they could mail packets home. I would support using this to reduce makeup days by up to 2 days per week of closure (after one week)

Mail?

I just got mail delivered for the first time in a week yesterday.

Meanwhile, someone has to be able to get to work to
1) print each teacher’s packets.
2) copy all of those packets.
3) stuff envelopes
4) address the envelopes.
and 5) drop all of the envelopes off at the post office.

I think the idea is stupid, but presumably the pp meant email.

Which is even crazier because I'd imagine like 60% of the county doesn't have a printer in their home. And I'm not just talking the FARMS kids. I make 6 figures and have not owned a home printer in over a decade. No need to have one when I can print everything at the office.

I said the idea is stupid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would support distance learning during extended closure. Like if conditions are truly dangerous and school needs to be closed for more than a week, they could offer some kind of instruction. For ES, they could mail packets home. I would support using this to reduce makeup days by up to 2 days per week of closure (after one week)

Mail?

I just got mail delivered for the first time in a week yesterday.

Meanwhile, someone has to be able to get to work to
1) print each teacher’s packets.
2) copy all of those packets.
3) stuff envelopes
4) address the envelopes.
and 5) drop all of the envelopes off at the post office.

I think the idea is stupid, but presumably the pp meant email.

Which is even crazier because I'd imagine like 60% of the county doesn't have a printer in their home. And I'm not just talking the FARMS kids. I make 6 figures and have not owned a home printer in over a decade. No need to have one when I can print everything at the office.

You can clearly get online no problem so they can do the work online or buy a printer.

I'm not buying a printer so your socially inept nerd kids can do their school work. My kid is using this time off to hit the squat rack in the basement. Football is in a few months

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would support distance learning during extended closure. Like if conditions are truly dangerous and school needs to be closed for more than a week, they could offer some kind of instruction. For ES, they could mail packets home. I would support using this to reduce makeup days by up to 2 days per week of closure (after one week)

Mail?

I just got mail delivered for the first time in a week yesterday.

Meanwhile, someone has to be able to get to work to
1) print each teacher’s packets.
2) copy all of those packets.
3) stuff envelopes
4) address the envelopes.
and 5) drop all of the envelopes off at the post office.

I think the idea is stupid, but presumably the pp meant email.

Which is even crazier because I'd imagine like 60% of the county doesn't have a printer in their home. And I'm not just talking the FARMS kids. I make 6 figures and have not owned a home printer in over a decade. No need to have one when I can print everything at the office.

You can clearly get online no problem so they can do the work online or buy a printer.

No one requires printed materials for a few days, except the K-3 who don’t have 1:1 Chromebooks. Everyone else is fine.

And if the MCPs Central Office had heeded the warning about the big storm that everyone was predicting, they could have had Elementary schools send home packets with the youngest learners. They just suck at planning and prefer to complain that conditions are bad and they can’t do anything.

Not all secondary schools in MCPS remained 1:1.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would support distance learning during extended closure. Like if conditions are truly dangerous and school needs to be closed for more than a week, they could offer some kind of instruction. For ES, they could mail packets home. I would support using this to reduce makeup days by up to 2 days per week of closure (after one week)

Mail?

I just got mail delivered for the first time in a week yesterday.

Meanwhile, someone has to be able to get to work to
1) print each teacher’s packets.
2) copy all of those packets.
3) stuff envelopes
4) address the envelopes.
and 5) drop all of the envelopes off at the post office.

I think the idea is stupid, but presumably the pp meant email.

Which is even crazier because I'd imagine like 60% of the county doesn't have a printer in their home. And I'm not just talking the FARMS kids. I make 6 figures and have not owned a home printer in over a decade. No need to have one when I can print everything at the office.

You can clearly get online no problem so they can do the work online or buy a printer.

No one requires printed materials for a few days, except the K-3 who don’t have 1:1 Chromebooks. Everyone else is fine.

And if the MCPs Central Office had heeded the warning about the big storm that everyone was predicting, they could have had Elementary schools send home packets with the youngest learners. They just suck at planning and prefer to complain that conditions are bad and they can’t do anything.

They did send home packets. But they can't teach anything new. They don't have lesson plans ready to give to parents. They'd need to create them, which takes more time than you can do while also teaching classes.

So they still would need to have make-up days.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How have other counties been able to overcome the 1-1 Chromebook hurdle but mcps can’t? Or are those counties not concerned with that?

They're not because there's no learning going on during their "virtual" days.

What’s your evidence of that? I have friends in Alexandria PS and their kids were online with their teachers the way all our kids were during COVID. They even had teacher “office hours” that day so kids could get extra help.
And since they knew a storm was coming, ACPS had its act together and made sure all the kids grade 4 and up took their laptops home.

Meanwhile Taylor and his MCPS senior management prioritized “snow day videos.”

Taylor, central office and the BOE have been clear they are anti virtual. They don’t care who they hurt and are selfish. It doesn’t work for their kids be a they are not involved parents.

They understand that they have no way to accommodate students virtually.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would support distance learning during extended closure. Like if conditions are truly dangerous and school needs to be closed for more than a week, they could offer some kind of instruction. For ES, they could mail packets home. I would support using this to reduce makeup days by up to 2 days per week of closure (after one week)

Mail?

I just got mail delivered for the first time in a week yesterday.

Meanwhile, someone has to be able to get to work to
1) print each teacher’s packets.
2) copy all of those packets.
3) stuff envelopes
4) address the envelopes.
and 5) drop all of the envelopes off at the post office.

I think the idea is stupid, but presumably the pp meant email.

I posted work on Canvas on Monday after the announcement about Tuesday. Seven students submitted it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:How have other counties been able to overcome the 1-1 Chromebook hurdle but mcps can’t? Or are those counties not concerned with that?

They're not because there's no learning going on during their "virtual" days.

What’s your evidence of that? I have friends in Alexandria PS and their kids were online with their teachers the way all our kids were during COVID. They even had teacher “office hours” that day so kids could get extra help.
And since they knew a storm was coming, ACPS had its act together and made sure all the kids grade 4 and up took their laptops home.

Meanwhile Taylor and his MCPS senior management prioritized “snow day videos.”

Taylor, central office and the BOE have been clear they are anti virtual. They don’t care who they hurt and are selfish. It doesn’t work for their kids be a they are not involved parents.

They understand that they have no way to accommodate students virtually.

Snort. Send them on a field trip to Arlington PS, DCPS, Anne Arundel, Baltimore or NYC. These are all large school districts that “managed to accommodate students virtually.” MCPS is just lazy and incompetent.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How can so many other school systems implement virtual learning when there are long-predicted prolonged absences.

Every student has a Chromebook.

Is it ideal? No.

Will there be complete equitable participation? No.

Will it prevent school from going well into the summer? Yes.

I just don’t get it.

Virtual learning is an ineffective disaster.

It was great for my kids. In person is equally ineffective. Look at the test scores.

This. People are in denial about how in person learning is quite ineffective as well - at least for certain groups of kids.

By all means, lobby to get rid of schools...

At this rate, it’ll happen anyway. Thanks, MAGA voters for making America gotdamilliterate again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How have other counties been able to overcome the 1-1 Chromebook hurdle but mcps can’t? Or are those counties not concerned with that?

They're not because there's no learning going on during their "virtual" days.

What’s your evidence of that? I have friends in Alexandria PS and their kids were online with their teachers the way all our kids were during COVID. They even had teacher “office hours” that day so kids could get extra help.
And since they knew a storm was coming, ACPS had its act together and made sure all the kids grade 4 and up took their laptops home.

Meanwhile Taylor and his MCPS senior management prioritized “snow day videos.”

Taylor, central office and the BOE have been clear they are anti virtual. They don’t care who they hurt and are selfish. It doesn’t work for their kids be a they are not involved parents.

They understand that they have no way to accommodate students virtually.

Snort. Send them on a field trip to Arlington PS, DCPS, Anne Arundel, Baltimore or NYC. These are all large school districts that “managed to accommodate students virtually.” MCPS is just lazy and incompetent.

They're ignoring students with special needs, too.

After the way MCPS has treated us, I will absolutely use every legal tool to fight virtual unless they come up with an appropriate and effective plan for accommodating students.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:what an embarrassment. half the counties in the state including baltimore city had plans in place for remote learning--and places like garrett and frederick counties that have far more rural areas were two hour delayed. Really, MCPS?

Most places were and are not doing virtual because they know it doesn't work.

Yes, MCPS could have opened, but Taylor can't manage.

NYC and baltimore county both have virtual school this week-- why is it an equity issue here and not those places? both still allow for plenty of play in the snow time

Hundreds of schools have had virtual school this week, NYC had it Monday the day after the storm, and had kids back in classrooms on Tuesday.
Anne Arundel has also done virtual learning this week.
Even Oklahoma has managed to do virtual school this week.
MCPS is just lazy.

Virtual is the lazy path. Everyone knows those virtual days are worthless. Schools only do them because they're easier and cheaper than adding real days. That's not a good reason.

Who is everyone? Universities, community colleges, NYC, Anne Arundel schools, Baltimore schools, lots of Virginia schools including Alexandria did virtual learning this week. My kid has had some great virtual learning instruction.

So no, “everyone” does NOT think these days are worthless and think it’s better to add three half days in end June and tell kids not to come to school because no real instruction is going on.

Yeah but everyone who cared enough about the subject made sure to tell the county that virtual learning on snow days was a bad idea when the county specifically asked for community input. Maybe you should have compaigned a bit harder to counteract that decision

Where are the data that show that parents preferred to have schools closed for an entire week rather than have virtual learning? Hint: you won’t find any.

No one asked that question explicitly but in 2021, DCUM bellowed that virtual was worse than nothing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How have other counties been able to overcome the 1-1 Chromebook hurdle but mcps can’t? Or are those counties not concerned with that?

They're not because there's no learning going on during their "virtual" days.

What’s your evidence of that? I have friends in Alexandria PS and their kids were online with their teachers the way all our kids were during COVID. They even had teacher “office hours” that day so kids could get extra help.
And since they knew a storm was coming, ACPS had its act together and made sure all the kids grade 4 and up took their laptops home.

Meanwhile Taylor and his MCPS senior management prioritized “snow day videos.”

Taylor, central office and the BOE have been clear they are anti virtual. They don’t care who they hurt and are selfish. It doesn’t work for their kids be a they are not involved parents.

They understand that they have no way to accommodate students virtually.

Snort. Send them on a field trip to Arlington PS, DCPS, Anne Arundel, Baltimore or NYC. These are all large school districts that “managed to accommodate students virtually.” MCPS is just lazy and incompetent.

Send Thomas to Minnesota so he can learn how to open schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:what an embarrassment. half the counties in the state including baltimore city had plans in place for remote learning--and places like garrett and frederick counties that have far more rural areas were two hour delayed. Really, MCPS?

Most places were and are not doing virtual because they know it doesn't work.

Yes, MCPS could have opened, but Taylor can't manage.

NYC and baltimore county both have virtual school this week-- why is it an equity issue here and not those places? both still allow for plenty of play in the snow time

Hundreds of schools have had virtual school this week, NYC had it Monday the day after the storm, and had kids back in classrooms on Tuesday.
Anne Arundel has also done virtual learning this week.
Even Oklahoma has managed to do virtual school this week.
MCPS is just lazy.

Virtual is the lazy path. Everyone knows those virtual days are worthless. Schools only do them because they're easier and cheaper than adding real days. That's not a good reason.

Who is everyone? Universities, community colleges, NYC, Anne Arundel schools, Baltimore schools, lots of Virginia schools including Alexandria did virtual learning this week. My kid has had some great virtual learning instruction.

So no, “everyone” does NOT think these days are worthless and think it’s better to add three half days in end June and tell kids not to come to school because no real instruction is going on.

Yeah but everyone who cared enough about the subject made sure to tell the county that virtual learning on snow days was a bad idea when the county specifically asked for community input. Maybe you should have compaigned a bit harder to counteract that decision

Where are the data that show that parents preferred to have schools closed for an entire week rather than have virtual learning? Hint: you won’t find any.

No one asked that question explicitly but in 2021, DCUM bellowed that virtual was worse than nothing.

Yes, it is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How have other counties been able to overcome the 1-1 Chromebook hurdle but mcps can’t? Or are those counties not concerned with that?

They're not because there's no learning going on during their "virtual" days.

What’s your evidence of that? I have friends in Alexandria PS and their kids were online with their teachers the way all our kids were during COVID. They even had teacher “office hours” that day so kids could get extra help.
And since they knew a storm was coming, ACPS had its act together and made sure all the kids grade 4 and up took their laptops home.

Meanwhile Taylor and his MCPS senior management prioritized “snow day videos.”

Taylor, central office and the BOE have been clear they are anti virtual. They don’t care who they hurt and are selfish. It doesn’t work for their kids be a they are not involved parents.

They understand that they have no way to accommodate students virtually.

Snort. Send them on a field trip to Arlington PS, DCPS, Anne Arundel, Baltimore or NYC. These are all large school districts that “managed to accommodate students virtually.” MCPS is just lazy and incompetent.

They absolutely did not manage to do that. Look at any study and it shows how absolutely horrible online learning was

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How have other counties been able to overcome the 1-1 Chromebook hurdle but mcps can’t? Or are those counties not concerned with that?

They're not because there's no learning going on during their "virtual" days.

What’s your evidence of that? I have friends in Alexandria PS and their kids were online with their teachers the way all our kids were during COVID. They even had teacher “office hours” that day so kids could get extra help.
And since they knew a storm was coming, ACPS had its act together and made sure all the kids grade 4 and up took their laptops home.

Meanwhile Taylor and his MCPS senior management prioritized “snow day videos.”

Taylor, central office and the BOE have been clear they are anti virtual. They don’t care who they hurt and are selfish. It doesn’t work for their kids be a they are not involved parents.

They understand that they have no way to accommodate students virtually.

Snort. Send them on a field trip to Arlington PS, DCPS, Anne Arundel, Baltimore or NYC. These are all large school districts that “managed to accommodate students virtually.” MCPS is just lazy and incompetent.

They're ignoring students with special needs, too.

After the way MCPS has treated us, I will absolutely use every legal tool to fight virtual unless they come up with an appropriate and effective plan for accommodating students.

Ok have fun with that. The world doesn’t revolve around your kid.