Why are younger men so right wing?

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Anonymous wrote:The entire premise of this thread ("how can my well adjusted son be Republican?!") is grotesque.


it is just the next step in the evolution , once you have nothing but contempt for other people , you know, those damn deplorables, the US workers that do manual labor, well the next step is to make sure you tell your family "they" are not human.

makes them feel superior.


You’ve just described the Republican attitude towards illegally present immigrants.


Fixed it for you.


So you think that illegally present immigrants are not human.

Got it.


Your statement doesn't make any sense. They are a illegally present, not an immigrant, and somehow that has an impact on their humanity.


Aúsțràlia does it right too. As one living in America Trump is actually doing it better. Try next time m’lady.
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Anonymous wrote:I have yet to see one compelling argument that isn't about white men whining about no longer being handed everything when they want it (as often), or rooted in hatred/mistrust of women.


Okay, run with that and keep losing presidential elections for eternity.


Oh noes, you feel the world is against you so you want to vote for the grifter billionaires who don't give a shit about you? See how that helps you and your family, kids, etc.



I’m a Harris-voting, lifelong Democrat, you moron. I am just not sealed inside the deep blue bubble like you are. I want to win the presidential election again some day, and I see nobody on the horizon who even comes close to being a realistic candidate.

For context, I accurately called Trump’s wins months before the election each time, as well as Biden’s. I’ve correctly predicted each presidential election since I started paying attention (Obama). I tried to warn people here that Trump was going to win and got a lot of posts back about how wrong I was. 🤷‍♀️

Also don’t come back about stupid special elections or whatever. They are irrelevant to national voting patterns. The Democrats will win the midterms but at this rate will get trounced again in the presidential election unless a dark horse candidate emerges. And a lot of that has to do with the denialism on display in this thread.


If you’re hoping for a white male candidate who won’t scare away the racists and who is good at insulting people and pandering to young men with shallow lies, those are called Republicans.

Why are we getting lectures about The Democrats Hate Young Men And Have Lost Them Forever (with zero evidence to back that up, other than “sometimes they talk about issues that don’t center me” and “why did Harvard reject me and why do I not have an upper management job at age 25”), and no corresponding lectures about The Republicans Hate Women And Will Never Win Another Election Because Of That? Republicans actually back that up with policy. Women are bleeding out in hospital parking lots. There’s a huge push to get women out of the military, jobs, and academia, and back in the kitchen having babies. There’s talk of removing their right to vote, and going back to the days when women couldn’t open bank accounts or have credit cards in their name. Now THAT’S real hatred. “Oh no, the acronym BIPOC exists” is not.

There are so many threads devoted to Winning Back Young Men for Democrats, and zero devoted to Winning Back Young Women for Republicans. That should tell you what the real problem is. Republicans don’t give a sh*t about women, except as baby vessels. They don’t need to. They already have a structural advantage baked in to the Electoral College. They have the Supreme Court locked down for a generation. They have an enormous billionaire-backed media megaphone pumping out lies and distortions to the public 24/7. They don’t need anyone’s vote except for straight white evangelical men, and that is exactly who the country is being run by and for. Spare us the sob stories about underrepresentation.


I would say that logically, if Republicans claim Democrat attitudes toward men are to blame for men turning right wing, what do they think their current attitudes toward women is doing? Women going into the workforce are now to blame for the inability to own a SFH on one income (have seen quite a few posts from Republicans to that effect). They adore Charlie Kirk as a saint yet he wanted women marrying, submitting to their husbands, and making babies as early as possible (which statistically will increase the divorce rate as young marriages are high risk). NYT entertained a piece on women having a detrimental impact in the workplace.

Women are becoming to the Republican party what white men were to the Democratic party.


Democrats love to bring in men from other countries 70%-90% are men depending on the trade. They view them as workers, but they don't like to marry them. When is the last time you saw a white woman ecstatic about marrying into Hinduism, Islam, Confucianism or Catholicism.


Keep doubling down on the racism. It’s like an anvil on your tanking poll numbers.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The entire premise of this thread ("how can my well adjusted son be Republican?!") is grotesque.


it is just the next step in the evolution , once you have nothing but contempt for other people , you know, those damn deplorables, the US workers that do manual labor, well the next step is to make sure you tell your family "they" are not human.

makes them feel superior.


You’ve just described the Republican attitude towards illegally present immigrants.


Fixed it for you.


So you think that illegally present immigrants are not human.

Got it.


And apparently they think that all immigrants are here illegally.

The brainwashing is incredible.


You’re really flailing about this morning. Is everything okay?


Just sipping my tea and enjoying these pathetic, cringy comeback attempts.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The entire premise of this thread ("how can my well adjusted son be Republican?!") is grotesque.


it is just the next step in the evolution , once you have nothing but contempt for other people , you know, those damn deplorables, the US workers that do manual labor, well the next step is to make sure you tell your family "they" are not human.

makes them feel superior.


You’ve just described the Republican attitude towards illegally present immigrants.


Fixed it for you.


So you think that illegally present immigrants are not human.

Got it.


I’m confused. Where in the quoted statement did it specify immigrants are not human? Not a good look for you, but typical.


You’d have to go back to the quoted that the poster was replying to.

I know. Reading is SO HARD.
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Anonymous wrote:The entire premise of this thread ("how can my well adjusted son be Republican?!") is grotesque.


it is just the next step in the evolution , once you have nothing but contempt for other people , you know, those damn deplorables, the US workers that do manual labor, well the next step is to make sure you tell your family "they" are not human.

makes them feel superior.


You’ve just described the Republican attitude towards illegally present immigrants.


Fixed it for you.


So you think that illegally present immigrants are not human.

Got it.


Your statement doesn't make any sense. They are a illegally present, not an immigrant, and somehow that has an impact on their humanity.


Aúsțràlia does it right too. As one living in America Trump is actually doing it better. Try next time m’lady.


You live in America but spell Australia as “Aúsțràlia”? Sure, Jan.
Anonymous
Interesting piece in the Times today about why people support narcissistic leaders. In short — low self-esteem and anxiety in uncertain times. I know all the MAGA posters on here are SUPER chill and happy as little clams though.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/29/opinion/why-we-fall-for-narcissistic-leaders-starting-in-grade-school.html

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Anonymous wrote:I have yet to see one compelling argument that isn't about white men whining about no longer being handed everything when they want it (as often), or rooted in hatred/mistrust of women.


Okay, run with that and keep losing presidential elections for eternity.


Oh noes, you feel the world is against you so you want to vote for the grifter billionaires who don't give a shit about you? See how that helps you and your family, kids, etc.



I’m a Harris-voting, lifelong Democrat, you moron. I am just not sealed inside the deep blue bubble like you are. I want to win the presidential election again some day, and I see nobody on the horizon who even comes close to being a realistic candidate.

For context, I accurately called Trump’s wins months before the election each time, as well as Biden’s. I’ve correctly predicted each presidential election since I started paying attention (Obama). I tried to warn people here that Trump was going to win and got a lot of posts back about how wrong I was. 🤷‍♀️

Also don’t come back about stupid special elections or whatever. They are irrelevant to national voting patterns. The Democrats will win the midterms but at this rate will get trounced again in the presidential election unless a dark horse candidate emerges. And a lot of that has to do with the denialism on display in this thread.


If you’re hoping for a white male candidate who won’t scare away the racists and who is good at insulting people and pandering to young men with shallow lies, those are called Republicans.

Why are we getting lectures about The Democrats Hate Young Men And Have Lost Them Forever (with zero evidence to back that up, other than “sometimes they talk about issues that don’t center me” and “why did Harvard reject me and why do I not have an upper management job at age 25”), and no corresponding lectures about The Republicans Hate Women And Will Never Win Another Election Because Of That? Republicans actually back that up with policy. Women are bleeding out in hospital parking lots. There’s a huge push to get women out of the military, jobs, and academia, and back in the kitchen having babies. There’s talk of removing their right to vote, and going back to the days when women couldn’t open bank accounts or have credit cards in their name. Now THAT’S real hatred. “Oh no, the acronym BIPOC exists” is not.

There are so many threads devoted to Winning Back Young Men for Democrats, and zero devoted to Winning Back Young Women for Republicans. That should tell you what the real problem is. Republicans don’t give a sh*t about women, except as baby vessels. They don’t need to. They already have a structural advantage baked in to the Electoral College. They have the Supreme Court locked down for a generation. They have an enormous billionaire-backed media megaphone pumping out lies and distortions to the public 24/7. They don’t need anyone’s vote except for straight white evangelical men, and that is exactly who the country is being run by and for. Spare us the sob stories about underrepresentation.


I would say that logically, if Republicans claim Democrat attitudes toward men are to blame for men turning right wing, what do they think their current attitudes toward women is doing? Women going into the workforce are now to blame for the inability to own a SFH on one income (have seen quite a few posts from Republicans to that effect). They adore Charlie Kirk as a saint yet he wanted women marrying, submitting to their husbands, and making babies as early as possible (which statistically will increase the divorce rate as young marriages are high risk). NYT entertained a piece on women having a detrimental impact in the workplace.

Women are becoming to the Republican party what white men were to the Democratic party.


Democrats love to bring in men from other countries 70%-90% are men depending on the trade. They view them as workers, but they don't like to marry them. When is the last time you saw a white woman ecstatic about marrying into Hinduism, Islam, Confucianism or Catholicism.


Keep doubling down on the racism. It’s like an anvil on your tanking poll numbers.


I was confused for a second, because I were listing religions and you were talking about racism. But you weren't talking about Republicans doubling down on race baiting, you were talking about Democrats.
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Anonymous wrote:I have yet to see one compelling argument that isn't about white men whining about no longer being handed everything when they want it (as often), or rooted in hatred/mistrust of women.


Okay, run with that and keep losing presidential elections for eternity.


Oh noes, you feel the world is against you so you want to vote for the grifter billionaires who don't give a shit about you? See how that helps you and your family, kids, etc.



I’m a Harris-voting, lifelong Democrat, you moron. I am just not sealed inside the deep blue bubble like you are. I want to win the presidential election again some day, and I see nobody on the horizon who even comes close to being a realistic candidate.

For context, I accurately called Trump’s wins months before the election each time, as well as Biden’s. I’ve correctly predicted each presidential election since I started paying attention (Obama). I tried to warn people here that Trump was going to win and got a lot of posts back about how wrong I was. 🤷‍♀️

Also don’t come back about stupid special elections or whatever. They are irrelevant to national voting patterns. The Democrats will win the midterms but at this rate will get trounced again in the presidential election unless a dark horse candidate emerges. And a lot of that has to do with the denialism on display in this thread.


If you’re hoping for a white male candidate who won’t scare away the racists and who is good at insulting people and pandering to young men with shallow lies, those are called Republicans.

Why are we getting lectures about The Democrats Hate Young Men And Have Lost Them Forever (with zero evidence to back that up, other than “sometimes they talk about issues that don’t center me” and “why did Harvard reject me and why do I not have an upper management job at age 25”), and no corresponding lectures about The Republicans Hate Women And Will Never Win Another Election Because Of That? Republicans actually back that up with policy. Women are bleeding out in hospital parking lots. There’s a huge push to get women out of the military, jobs, and academia, and back in the kitchen having babies. There’s talk of removing their right to vote, and going back to the days when women couldn’t open bank accounts or have credit cards in their name. Now THAT’S real hatred. “Oh no, the acronym BIPOC exists” is not.

There are so many threads devoted to Winning Back Young Men for Democrats, and zero devoted to Winning Back Young Women for Republicans. That should tell you what the real problem is. Republicans don’t give a sh*t about women, except as baby vessels. They don’t need to. They already have a structural advantage baked in to the Electoral College. They have the Supreme Court locked down for a generation. They have an enormous billionaire-backed media megaphone pumping out lies and distortions to the public 24/7. They don’t need anyone’s vote except for straight white evangelical men, and that is exactly who the country is being run by and for. Spare us the sob stories about underrepresentation.


I would say that logically, if Republicans claim Democrat attitudes toward men are to blame for men turning right wing, what do they think their current attitudes toward women is doing? Women going into the workforce are now to blame for the inability to own a SFH on one income (have seen quite a few posts from Republicans to that effect). They adore Charlie Kirk as a saint yet he wanted women marrying, submitting to their husbands, and making babies as early as possible (which statistically will increase the divorce rate as young marriages are high risk). NYT entertained a piece on women having a detrimental impact in the workplace.

Women are becoming to the Republican party what white men were to the Democratic party.


Democrats love to bring in men from other countries 70%-90% are men depending on the trade. They view them as workers, but they don't like to marry them. When is the last time you saw a white woman ecstatic about marrying into Hinduism, Islam, Confucianism or Catholicism.


Keep doubling down on the racism. It’s like an anvil on your tanking poll numbers.


I was confused for a second, because I were listing religions and you were talking about racism. But you weren't talking about Republicans doubling down on race baiting, you were talking about Democrats.


No, you’re still confused and trying to hide behind weasel words, like all MAGA do when cornered.
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Anonymous wrote:The entire premise of this thread ("how can my well adjusted son be Republican?!") is grotesque.


it is just the next step in the evolution , once you have nothing but contempt for other people , you know, those damn deplorables, the US workers that do manual labor, well the next step is to make sure you tell your family "they" are not human.

makes them feel superior.


You’ve just described the Republican attitude towards illegally present immigrants.


Fixed it for you.


So you think that illegally present immigrants are not human.

Got it.


And apparently they think that all immigrants are here illegally.

The brainwashing is incredible.


You’re really flailing about this morning. Is everything okay?


Just sipping my tea and enjoying these pathetic, cringy comeback attempts.


You may want to sneak some hooch into that tea to calm yourself. Don’t you have a gummy nearby?
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Anonymous wrote:I have yet to see one compelling argument that isn't about white men whining about no longer being handed everything when they want it (as often), or rooted in hatred/mistrust of women.


Okay, run with that and keep losing presidential elections for eternity.


Oh noes, you feel the world is against you so you want to vote for the grifter billionaires who don't give a shit about you? See how that helps you and your family, kids, etc.



I’m a Harris-voting, lifelong Democrat, you moron. I am just not sealed inside the deep blue bubble like you are. I want to win the presidential election again some day, and I see nobody on the horizon who even comes close to being a realistic candidate.

For context, I accurately called Trump’s wins months before the election each time, as well as Biden’s. I’ve correctly predicted each presidential election since I started paying attention (Obama). I tried to warn people here that Trump was going to win and got a lot of posts back about how wrong I was. 🤷‍♀️

Also don’t come back about stupid special elections or whatever. They are irrelevant to national voting patterns. The Democrats will win the midterms but at this rate will get trounced again in the presidential election unless a dark horse candidate emerges. And a lot of that has to do with the denialism on display in this thread.


If you’re hoping for a white male candidate who won’t scare away the racists and who is good at insulting people and pandering to young men with shallow lies, those are called Republicans.

Why are we getting lectures about The Democrats Hate Young Men And Have Lost Them Forever (with zero evidence to back that up, other than “sometimes they talk about issues that don’t center me” and “why did Harvard reject me and why do I not have an upper management job at age 25”), and no corresponding lectures about The Republicans Hate Women And Will Never Win Another Election Because Of That? Republicans actually back that up with policy. Women are bleeding out in hospital parking lots. There’s a huge push to get women out of the military, jobs, and academia, and back in the kitchen having babies. There’s talk of removing their right to vote, and going back to the days when women couldn’t open bank accounts or have credit cards in their name. Now THAT’S real hatred. “Oh no, the acronym BIPOC exists” is not.

There are so many threads devoted to Winning Back Young Men for Democrats, and zero devoted to Winning Back Young Women for Republicans. That should tell you what the real problem is. Republicans don’t give a sh*t about women, except as baby vessels. They don’t need to. They already have a structural advantage baked in to the Electoral College. They have the Supreme Court locked down for a generation. They have an enormous billionaire-backed media megaphone pumping out lies and distortions to the public 24/7. They don’t need anyone’s vote except for straight white evangelical men, and that is exactly who the country is being run by and for. Spare us the sob stories about underrepresentation.


I would say that logically, if Republicans claim Democrat attitudes toward men are to blame for men turning right wing, what do they think their current attitudes toward women is doing? Women going into the workforce are now to blame for the inability to own a SFH on one income (have seen quite a few posts from Republicans to that effect). They adore Charlie Kirk as a saint yet he wanted women marrying, submitting to their husbands, and making babies as early as possible (which statistically will increase the divorce rate as young marriages are high risk). NYT entertained a piece on women having a detrimental impact in the workplace.

Women are becoming to the Republican party what white men were to the Democratic party.


Democrats love to bring in men from other countries 70%-90% are men depending on the trade. They view them as workers, but they don't like to marry them. When is the last time you saw a white woman ecstatic about marrying into Hinduism, Islam, Confucianism or Catholicism.


Keep doubling down on the racism. It’s like an anvil on your tanking poll numbers.


I was confused for a second, because I were listing religions and you were talking about racism. But you weren't talking about Republicans doubling down on race baiting, you were talking about Democrats.


I was confused on your post as I was talking about the GOP making women what white men were to the Democratic party - blaming women in the workplace as the reason for inability to live their dreams, discussing removing our right to vote, right wing talking heads like Charlie Kirk yelling us we need to "" submit" to our husbands. Yet you randomly went on some side tangent that did not address the issue I raised.
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Anonymous wrote:I have yet to see one compelling argument that isn't about white men whining about no longer being handed everything when they want it (as often), or rooted in hatred/mistrust of women.


Okay, run with that and keep losing presidential elections for eternity.


Oh noes, you feel the world is against you so you want to vote for the grifter billionaires who don't give a shit about you? See how that helps you and your family, kids, etc.



I’m a Harris-voting, lifelong Democrat, you moron. I am just not sealed inside the deep blue bubble like you are. I want to win the presidential election again some day, and I see nobody on the horizon who even comes close to being a realistic candidate.

For context, I accurately called Trump’s wins months before the election each time, as well as Biden’s. I’ve correctly predicted each presidential election since I started paying attention (Obama). I tried to warn people here that Trump was going to win and got a lot of posts back about how wrong I was. 🤷‍♀️

Also don’t come back about stupid special elections or whatever. They are irrelevant to national voting patterns. The Democrats will win the midterms but at this rate will get trounced again in the presidential election unless a dark horse candidate emerges. And a lot of that has to do with the denialism on display in this thread.


If you’re hoping for a white male candidate who won’t scare away the racists and who is good at insulting people and pandering to young men with shallow lies, those are called Republicans.

Why are we getting lectures about The Democrats Hate Young Men And Have Lost Them Forever (with zero evidence to back that up, other than “sometimes they talk about issues that don’t center me” and “why did Harvard reject me and why do I not have an upper management job at age 25”), and no corresponding lectures about The Republicans Hate Women And Will Never Win Another Election Because Of That? Republicans actually back that up with policy. Women are bleeding out in hospital parking lots. There’s a huge push to get women out of the military, jobs, and academia, and back in the kitchen having babies. There’s talk of removing their right to vote, and going back to the days when women couldn’t open bank accounts or have credit cards in their name. Now THAT’S real hatred. “Oh no, the acronym BIPOC exists” is not.

There are so many threads devoted to Winning Back Young Men for Democrats, and zero devoted to Winning Back Young Women for Republicans. That should tell you what the real problem is. Republicans don’t give a sh*t about women, except as baby vessels. They don’t need to. They already have a structural advantage baked in to the Electoral College. They have the Supreme Court locked down for a generation. They have an enormous billionaire-backed media megaphone pumping out lies and distortions to the public 24/7. They don’t need anyone’s vote except for straight white evangelical men, and that is exactly who the country is being run by and for. Spare us the sob stories about underrepresentation.


You are correct that no Republican cares about winning women but your reasoning about why is wrong and your understanding of the political landscape is wrong. No Republican cares about winning women to the Republicans because the Democrats are pushing women to the Republicans on their own. The Republicans don’t have to do any work to get those votes.

It is also interesting to me that you, like most of the other sealed blue bubble posters in this thread, are focused on straight white males only, when the data you should really be worried about is the shift of men who aren’t straight and/or white. That is the trend that is unfortunately and likely going to keep Democrats out of the presidential office for many years, unless sealed blue bubble Democrats like you step out of your bubble.

But unfortunately your political ideologies won’t allow you to recognize that electoral reality or speak openly about it, so you are back to shaking your fist at straight white men. And you are reflective of the Democratic Party apparatus and control. Which is why Democrats remain more unpopular than Trump even given how unpopular Trump is. You simply cannot face electoral reality because facing reality unmoors your self-identity too much. Your self-identity is grounded in a political philosophy that insists on a ranked hierarchy of identities, and recognizing the shift of men who are not straight and/or white to the Republicans would require you to take a hit to that self-identity. That’s too much for you to handle, and same with other identitarian Democrats (who unfortunately control the party), so the Democrats and you would rather languish as being less popular than Trump and accept never winning the presidential election again.
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Anonymous wrote:The entire premise of this thread ("how can my well adjusted son be Republican?!") is grotesque.


it is just the next step in the evolution , once you have nothing but contempt for other people , you know, those damn deplorables, the US workers that do manual labor, well the next step is to make sure you tell your family "they" are not human.

makes them feel superior.


You’ve just described the Republican attitude towards illegally present immigrants.


Fixed it for you.


So you think that illegally present immigrants are not human.

Got it.


And apparently they think that all immigrants are here illegally.

The brainwashing is incredible.


You’re really flailing about this morning. Is everything okay?


Just sipping my tea and enjoying these pathetic, cringy comeback attempts.


You may want to sneak some hooch into that tea to calm yourself. Don’t you have a gummy nearby?


For this to work as a comeback, it needs to have some connection to reality. I’m replying very calmly, and you’re desperately trying to frame this as something else.
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Anonymous wrote:I have yet to see one compelling argument that isn't about white men whining about no longer being handed everything when they want it (as often), or rooted in hatred/mistrust of women.


Okay, run with that and keep losing presidential elections for eternity.


Oh noes, you feel the world is against you so you want to vote for the grifter billionaires who don't give a shit about you? See how that helps you and your family, kids, etc.



I’m a Harris-voting, lifelong Democrat, you moron. I am just not sealed inside the deep blue bubble like you are. I want to win the presidential election again some day, and I see nobody on the horizon who even comes close to being a realistic candidate.

For context, I accurately called Trump’s wins months before the election each time, as well as Biden’s. I’ve correctly predicted each presidential election since I started paying attention (Obama). I tried to warn people here that Trump was going to win and got a lot of posts back about how wrong I was. 🤷‍♀️

Also don’t come back about stupid special elections or whatever. They are irrelevant to national voting patterns. The Democrats will win the midterms but at this rate will get trounced again in the presidential election unless a dark horse candidate emerges. And a lot of that has to do with the denialism on display in this thread.


If you’re hoping for a white male candidate who won’t scare away the racists and who is good at insulting people and pandering to young men with shallow lies, those are called Republicans.

Why are we getting lectures about The Democrats Hate Young Men And Have Lost Them Forever (with zero evidence to back that up, other than “sometimes they talk about issues that don’t center me” and “why did Harvard reject me and why do I not have an upper management job at age 25”), and no corresponding lectures about The Republicans Hate Women And Will Never Win Another Election Because Of That? Republicans actually back that up with policy. Women are bleeding out in hospital parking lots. There’s a huge push to get women out of the military, jobs, and academia, and back in the kitchen having babies. There’s talk of removing their right to vote, and going back to the days when women couldn’t open bank accounts or have credit cards in their name. Now THAT’S real hatred. “Oh no, the acronym BIPOC exists” is not.

There are so many threads devoted to Winning Back Young Men for Democrats, and zero devoted to Winning Back Young Women for Republicans. That should tell you what the real problem is. Republicans don’t give a sh*t about women, except as baby vessels. They don’t need to. They already have a structural advantage baked in to the Electoral College. They have the Supreme Court locked down for a generation. They have an enormous billionaire-backed media megaphone pumping out lies and distortions to the public 24/7. They don’t need anyone’s vote except for straight white evangelical men, and that is exactly who the country is being run by and for. Spare us the sob stories about underrepresentation.


You are correct that no Republican cares about winning women but your reasoning about why is wrong and your understanding of the political landscape is wrong. No Republican cares about winning women to the Republicans because the Democrats are pushing women to the Republicans on their own. The Republicans don’t have to do any work to get those votes.

It is also interesting to me that you, like most of the other sealed blue bubble posters in this thread, are focused on straight white males only, when the data you should really be worried about is the shift of men who aren’t straight and/or white. That is the trend that is unfortunately and likely going to keep Democrats out of the presidential office for many years, unless sealed blue bubble Democrats like you step out of your bubble.

But unfortunately your political ideologies won’t allow you to recognize that electoral reality or speak openly about it, so you are back to shaking your fist at straight white men. And you are reflective of the Democratic Party apparatus and control. Which is why Democrats remain more unpopular than Trump even given how unpopular Trump is. You simply cannot face electoral reality because facing reality unmoors your self-identity too much. Your self-identity is grounded in a political philosophy that insists on a ranked hierarchy of identities, and recognizing the shift of men who are not straight and/or white to the Republicans would require you to take a hit to that self-identity. That’s too much for you to handle, and same with other identitarian Democrats (who unfortunately control the party), so the Democrats and you would rather languish as being less popular than Trump and accept never winning the presidential election again.


Perhaps VA and NJ aren't good proxies for the entire country, but every trend you list above was completely reversed in the 2025 elections.

Democrats won a large majority of 18-29 males of every race...even more pronounced with non-straight, non-white men.

Let's just admit that there are 10% who are far-left and far-right and will always live in their bubbles, and then there is the remaining 80% that votes mainly because of pocket-book issues. It's irrelevant what anyone thinks of political parties in general.
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Anonymous wrote:I have yet to see one compelling argument that isn't about white men whining about no longer being handed everything when they want it (as often), or rooted in hatred/mistrust of women.


Okay, run with that and keep losing presidential elections for eternity.


Oh noes, you feel the world is against you so you want to vote for the grifter billionaires who don't give a shit about you? See how that helps you and your family, kids, etc.



I’m a Harris-voting, lifelong Democrat, you moron. I am just not sealed inside the deep blue bubble like you are. I want to win the presidential election again some day, and I see nobody on the horizon who even comes close to being a realistic candidate.

For context, I accurately called Trump’s wins months before the election each time, as well as Biden’s. I’ve correctly predicted each presidential election since I started paying attention (Obama). I tried to warn people here that Trump was going to win and got a lot of posts back about how wrong I was. 🤷‍♀️

Also don’t come back about stupid special elections or whatever. They are irrelevant to national voting patterns. The Democrats will win the midterms but at this rate will get trounced again in the presidential election unless a dark horse candidate emerges. And a lot of that has to do with the denialism on display in this thread.


If you’re hoping for a white male candidate who won’t scare away the racists and who is good at insulting people and pandering to young men with shallow lies, those are called Republicans.

Why are we getting lectures about The Democrats Hate Young Men And Have Lost Them Forever (with zero evidence to back that up, other than “sometimes they talk about issues that don’t center me” and “why did Harvard reject me and why do I not have an upper management job at age 25”), and no corresponding lectures about The Republicans Hate Women And Will Never Win Another Election Because Of That? Republicans actually back that up with policy. Women are bleeding out in hospital parking lots. There’s a huge push to get women out of the military, jobs, and academia, and back in the kitchen having babies. There’s talk of removing their right to vote, and going back to the days when women couldn’t open bank accounts or have credit cards in their name. Now THAT’S real hatred. “Oh no, the acronym BIPOC exists” is not.

There are so many threads devoted to Winning Back Young Men for Democrats, and zero devoted to Winning Back Young Women for Republicans. That should tell you what the real problem is. Republicans don’t give a sh*t about women, except as baby vessels. They don’t need to. They already have a structural advantage baked in to the Electoral College. They have the Supreme Court locked down for a generation. They have an enormous billionaire-backed media megaphone pumping out lies and distortions to the public 24/7. They don’t need anyone’s vote except for straight white evangelical men, and that is exactly who the country is being run by and for. Spare us the sob stories about underrepresentation.


You are correct that no Republican cares about winning women but your reasoning about why is wrong and your understanding of the political landscape is wrong. No Republican cares about winning women to the Republicans because the Democrats are pushing women to the Republicans on their own. The Republicans don’t have to do any work to get those votes.

It is also interesting to me that you, like most of the other sealed blue bubble posters in this thread, are focused on straight white males only, when the data you should really be worried about is the shift of men who aren’t straight and/or white. That is the trend that is unfortunately and likely going to keep Democrats out of the presidential office for many years, unless sealed blue bubble Democrats like you step out of your bubble.

But unfortunately your political ideologies won’t allow you to recognize that electoral reality or speak openly about it, so you are back to shaking your fist at straight white men. And you are reflective of the Democratic Party apparatus and control. Which is why Democrats remain more unpopular than Trump even given how unpopular Trump is. You simply cannot face electoral reality because facing reality unmoors your self-identity too much. Your self-identity is grounded in a political philosophy that insists on a ranked hierarchy of identities, and recognizing the shift of men who are not straight and/or white to the Republicans would require you to take a hit to that self-identity. That’s too much for you to handle, and same with other identitarian Democrats (who unfortunately control the party), so the Democrats and you would rather languish as being less popular than Trump and accept never winning the presidential election again.


Perhaps VA and NJ aren't good proxies for the entire country, but every trend you list above was completely reversed in the 2025 elections.

Democrats won a large majority of 18-29 males of every race...even more pronounced with non-straight, non-white men.

Let's just admit that there are 10% who are far-left and far-right and will always live in their bubbles, and then there is the remaining 80% that votes mainly because of pocket-book issues. It's irrelevant what anyone thinks of political parties in general.


I think that there are more people that are far right than there are that are far left. That’s part of the problem.
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Right now, only 34% of women approve of Trump vs 44% of men, in the latest Economist/Yougov poll. I know polling doesn't tell us everything about how someone will vote in the future, but seems the GOP should worry about losing women? Blaming women in the workplace for the downfall of society doesn't seem like a winning strategy any more than blaming white men was for Democrats.

Anecdotally, also recently saw a couple posts by female MAHA influencers renouncing their red Trump hats because the administration is not following through much on promises to clean up our food, and also just approved new PFAs for use in soil and farming.
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