Meghan King Edmonds loses custody of kids to Jim Edmonds

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder if there was some kind of medical abuse / munchausen’s happening. The child she referred to as ‘severely disabled’ and who issues she posted about day and night. That is likely the child she was also self medicating. It will be interesting to see if once he is away from her if he still has all the same issues and if he is actually severely disabled.


There is no evidence about the ritual allegation. None of the tabloids has posted an actual, named source. At best, it's an attention-seeking Real Housewives alumna who said it because CPS would not turn over that information to them. Deep dive into Reddit suggests that this past year, after Jim moved to Tennessee, Meghan became a bit unhinged with sending emails to the school about pickups and how he'd moved away, etc. If anyone has credible evidence about the Ritalin allegation naming a real source, it would be nice to read it, because I'm so perplexed. No question Meghan has some issues, but you would have to be straight up insane, as a divorced parent in a high-conflict coparenting situation, to give your kid ritalin that you purchased on the black market without a prescription and ask a school employee to administer it? Like, totally insane. You would have to be insane even if you weren't divorced. Meghan - not popular right now, but insane? There has to be more to the story. Like, perhaps she got him a prescription for her child without Jim's consent, which is an issue if he has joint legal decision-making. That would still be a serious problem, but not the sensational story that Jim's team is spinning to the media.


I am basing it more on how much she talked about the child’s health issues on her social media and how much it seemed to be a big part of her content / identity. I don’t care about ‘spin’. They both do that. But there was a CPS call that was did fix ant enough to remove the kid from her home and then a CPS investigation that she agreed to give up custody. Meghan’s father is a lawyer. She would know her rights and she would have significant legal input into her decisions.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Hard to believe, but in the 2000s, Jim Edmonds was actually quite the eligible bachelor in St. Louis due to being part of a really great Cardinals team. I could see how Meghan ignored the red flags when they met.

I lived in STL and followed Meghan early on social media. Looking back, I can see now that some of her posts - even going back 15 years - were really manic. It wouldn't surprise me if she had mental illness. Add in 3 kids in 2 years, a cheating spouse and other stressors... and I imagine she just broke. To me, her oversharing on social media seems like a cry for help.

I don't know that Edmonds is the monster people are making him out to be. I guess it's good he and his wife are stepping up with the kids. But to move his kids to TN at a time when they probably really need their mother and some assurance she's going to be okay... I dunno. Seems like it would've been better for them to relocate back to STL and help Meghan get the help she needs.

Her family was a nice, normal St. Louis family back in the day. I wonder if they are trying to stay involved in the kids' lives. I imagine it's really tough when your daughter's ex has unlimited funds and is revered in STL.

Poor kids. I hope Jim is being a good father and that their mom gets well.


Please explain to me how he's being a "good father" by suddenly removing the children from their entire world in STL. He has unlimited funds, he can afford to set up a home in STL quickly.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One Mom's Battle, which is a community activist organization that supports women who navigate post-separation abuse through a variety of resources, posted this:

"What is happening to Meghan King right now is a crisis I have watched play out again and again. It is a war on mothers and the same pattern I see in my messages every day.

She has lost custody of her children. He has temporary full custody. This is not entertainment or gossip. It is a window into a system stacked against protective mothers.

People keep saying, “Do you know what it takes for a mother to lose custody?”
I do. It is very easy and very common for mothers to lose custody.

The comments from people who know nothing about family court have been infuriating. I do not care if you like her or dislike her. What has happened to her is inhumane. The people rushing into the comments with fast opinions are often the least informed about the family court crisis.

Money plays a role. Influence plays a role. Families are targeted by professionals who profit from conflict.

Women are pushed to the brink and when we finally react like any human under prolonged stress, that reaction is used as proof against us. “See, she is crazy.” This is the trap. This is the setup. This is the pattern.

I will say this plainly. In my opinion, he is a raging egomaniac narcissist. I have viewed footage from one of their custody exchanges. His behavior was rageful and frightening. He placed the children in the conflict while she did everything possible to deescalate. I thought about that video for a long time. The fact that he now has full custody is deeply concerning.

But this is not only about them. This is what is happening to mothers across the world. When a mother tries to protect her children, she is punished for it. When she speaks up, she is labeled unstable. When she reacts to trauma, that reaction is weaponized and used to justify removing her children.

It is a crisis. It is real. It is happening in plain sight. It needs to be called what it is."


This. Absolutely this.

LOUDER, for the people in the back.


Not all of think that it is okay for children to be harmed or killed based on a biased belief that children should always be with their mothers and that men or fathers are evil. Would you like me to share a list of mothers who have harmed or killed their kids? Advocating for mothers blindly at the expense of their kids is shameful. The kids matter and they have a right to a safe and stable lives. There is nothing about being a woman or man that makes one a better parent. And anyone, man or woman, can say they aren’t responsible for their behaviour, they can say that all their actions are reactions to other people or to trauma - but at the end of the day when those actions and reactions harm the kids, they shouldn’t have custody.

The courts are not anti mothers in the least. They were very anti fathers for years and now that they are becoming less biased and including fathers more in custody and care, that is a good thing, it isn’t anti mothers.

There are many YouTube channels that play live family court cases - you can watch thousands of family court cases. There is definitely no anti mother bias. What you do see though is both mothers and fathers being the ones who are making decisions in the best interest of their kids and mothers and fathers who aren’t.


Please state how many years you have been in the family court system. I have been in 10 years now. I have have friends who have been in longer. I have read countless cases and witnesses many hearings. You do not know what you are talking about. Watching YouTube does not make you an expert. You also talk in these ridiculous hyperbolic absolutes "Advocating for mothers blindly at the expense of their kids is shameful", which also shows your ignorance.

Your "anti-fathers for years" statement needs more backstory - until the 80s, yes, mothers were favored in family court due to things like the tender years doctrine. But now the pendulum has swung to the opposite end, especially in the cases of protective mothers vs abuser fathers, which is ALSO not good. Please read Joan Meier's published research on protective mothers and family court. It is staggering.

What the post from OMB is talking about *in this particular case, and other cases like it* is what happens when you end up in the system with a powerful and wealthy personality-disordered abuser.


Are you a lawyer or a judge? In what capacity have you been in the family court system for 10 years? Or are you just talking about your own personal experience with you and your court case?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hard to believe, but in the 2000s, Jim Edmonds was actually quite the eligible bachelor in St. Louis due to being part of a really great Cardinals team. I could see how Meghan ignored the red flags when they met.

I lived in STL and followed Meghan early on social media. Looking back, I can see now that some of her posts - even going back 15 years - were really manic. It wouldn't surprise me if she had mental illness. Add in 3 kids in 2 years, a cheating spouse and other stressors... and I imagine she just broke. To me, her oversharing on social media seems like a cry for help.

I don't know that Edmonds is the monster people are making him out to be. I guess it's good he and his wife are stepping up with the kids. But to move his kids to TN at a time when they probably really need their mother and some assurance she's going to be okay... I dunno. Seems like it would've been better for them to relocate back to STL and help Meghan get the help she needs.

Her family was a nice, normal St. Louis family back in the day. I wonder if they are trying to stay involved in the kids' lives. I imagine it's really tough when your daughter's ex has unlimited funds and is revered in STL.

Poor kids. I hope Jim is being a good father and that their mom gets well.


Please explain to me how he's being a "good father" by suddenly removing the children from their entire world in STL. He has unlimited funds, he can afford to set up a home in STL quickly.

Right now the threshold for being a good parent in this case is not giving your kids medicine they were not prescribed. So he would be a good parent.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One Mom's Battle, which is a community activist organization that supports women who navigate post-separation abuse through a variety of resources, posted this:

"What is happening to Meghan King right now is a crisis I have watched play out again and again. It is a war on mothers and the same pattern I see in my messages every day.

She has lost custody of her children. He has temporary full custody. This is not entertainment or gossip. It is a window into a system stacked against protective mothers.

People keep saying, “Do you know what it takes for a mother to lose custody?”
I do. It is very easy and very common for mothers to lose custody.

The comments from people who know nothing about family court have been infuriating. I do not care if you like her or dislike her. What has happened to her is inhumane. The people rushing into the comments with fast opinions are often the least informed about the family court crisis.

Money plays a role. Influence plays a role. Families are targeted by professionals who profit from conflict.

Women are pushed to the brink and when we finally react like any human under prolonged stress, that reaction is used as proof against us. “See, she is crazy.” This is the trap. This is the setup. This is the pattern.

I will say this plainly. In my opinion, he is a raging egomaniac narcissist. I have viewed footage from one of their custody exchanges. His behavior was rageful and frightening. He placed the children in the conflict while she did everything possible to deescalate. I thought about that video for a long time. The fact that he now has full custody is deeply concerning.

But this is not only about them. This is what is happening to mothers across the world. When a mother tries to protect her children, she is punished for it. When she speaks up, she is labeled unstable. When she reacts to trauma, that reaction is weaponized and used to justify removing her children.

It is a crisis. It is real. It is happening in plain sight. It needs to be called what it is."


This. Absolutely this.

LOUDER, for the people in the back.


Not all of think that it is okay for children to be harmed or killed based on a biased belief that children should always be with their mothers and that men or fathers are evil. Would you like me to share a list of mothers who have harmed or killed their kids? Advocating for mothers blindly at the expense of their kids is shameful. The kids matter and they have a right to a safe and stable lives. There is nothing about being a woman or man that makes one a better parent. And anyone, man or woman, can say they aren’t responsible for their behaviour, they can say that all their actions are reactions to other people or to trauma - but at the end of the day when those actions and reactions harm the kids, they shouldn’t have custody.

The courts are not anti mothers in the least. They were very anti fathers for years and now that they are becoming less biased and including fathers more in custody and care, that is a good thing, it isn’t anti mothers.

There are many YouTube channels that play live family court cases - you can watch thousands of family court cases. There is definitely no anti mother bias. What you do see though is both mothers and fathers being the ones who are making decisions in the best interest of their kids and mothers and fathers who aren’t.


Please state how many years you have been in the family court system. I have been in 10 years now. I have have friends who have been in longer. I have read countless cases and witnesses many hearings. You do not know what you are talking about. Watching YouTube does not make you an expert. You also talk in these ridiculous hyperbolic absolutes "Advocating for mothers blindly at the expense of their kids is shameful", which also shows your ignorance.

Your "anti-fathers for years" statement needs more backstory - until the 80s, yes, mothers were favored in family court due to things like the tender years doctrine. But now the pendulum has swung to the opposite end, especially in the cases of protective mothers vs abuser fathers, which is ALSO not good. Please read Joan Meier's published research on protective mothers and family court. It is staggering.

What the post from OMB is talking about *in this particular case, and other cases like it* is what happens when you end up in the system with a powerful and wealthy personality-disordered abuser.


Are you a lawyer or a judge? In what capacity have you been in the family court system for 10 years? Or are you just talking about your own personal experience with you and your court case?

You know the answer to this…same as One Mom…
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hard to believe, but in the 2000s, Jim Edmonds was actually quite the eligible bachelor in St. Louis due to being part of a really great Cardinals team. I could see how Meghan ignored the red flags when they met.

I lived in STL and followed Meghan early on social media. Looking back, I can see now that some of her posts - even going back 15 years - were really manic. It wouldn't surprise me if she had mental illness. Add in 3 kids in 2 years, a cheating spouse and other stressors... and I imagine she just broke. To me, her oversharing on social media seems like a cry for help.

I don't know that Edmonds is the monster people are making him out to be. I guess it's good he and his wife are stepping up with the kids. But to move his kids to TN at a time when they probably really need their mother and some assurance she's going to be okay... I dunno. Seems like it would've been better for them to relocate back to STL and help Meghan get the help she needs.

Her family was a nice, normal St. Louis family back in the day. I wonder if they are trying to stay involved in the kids' lives. I imagine it's really tough when your daughter's ex has unlimited funds and is revered in STL.

Poor kids. I hope Jim is being a good father and that their mom gets well.


Please explain to me how he's being a "good father" by suddenly removing the children from their entire world in STL. He has unlimited funds, he can afford to set up a home in STL quickly.


Given he has custody now, being a good father is giving them a safe and stable home to live in. Many people move with their kids when they have primary or sole custody to be in the best environment for the family.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hard to believe, but in the 2000s, Jim Edmonds was actually quite the eligible bachelor in St. Louis due to being part of a really great Cardinals team. I could see how Meghan ignored the red flags when they met.

I lived in STL and followed Meghan early on social media. Looking back, I can see now that some of her posts - even going back 15 years - were really manic. It wouldn't surprise me if she had mental illness. Add in 3 kids in 2 years, a cheating spouse and other stressors... and I imagine she just broke. To me, her oversharing on social media seems like a cry for help.

I don't know that Edmonds is the monster people are making him out to be. I guess it's good he and his wife are stepping up with the kids. But to move his kids to TN at a time when they probably really need their mother and some assurance she's going to be okay... I dunno. Seems like it would've been better for them to relocate back to STL and help Meghan get the help she needs.

Her family was a nice, normal St. Louis family back in the day. I wonder if they are trying to stay involved in the kids' lives. I imagine it's really tough when your daughter's ex has unlimited funds and is revered in STL.

Poor kids. I hope Jim is being a good father and that their mom gets well.


Please explain to me how he's being a "good father" by suddenly removing the children from their entire world in STL. He has unlimited funds, he can afford to set up a home in STL quickly.


Please explain how she was being a good mother by moving her three young children into the home of a man she had been dating for six weeks, and wanting to move to California to be with this man (Jim stopped the move) and marrying and divorcing this man within 2 months. Please explain how these actions are those of a good mother?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hard to believe, but in the 2000s, Jim Edmonds was actually quite the eligible bachelor in St. Louis due to being part of a really great Cardinals team. I could see how Meghan ignored the red flags when they met.

I lived in STL and followed Meghan early on social media. Looking back, I can see now that some of her posts - even going back 15 years - were really manic. It wouldn't surprise me if she had mental illness. Add in 3 kids in 2 years, a cheating spouse and other stressors... and I imagine she just broke. To me, her oversharing on social media seems like a cry for help.

I don't know that Edmonds is the monster people are making him out to be. I guess it's good he and his wife are stepping up with the kids. But to move his kids to TN at a time when they probably really need their mother and some assurance she's going to be okay... I dunno. Seems like it would've been better for them to relocate back to STL and help Meghan get the help she needs.

Her family was a nice, normal St. Louis family back in the day. I wonder if they are trying to stay involved in the kids' lives. I imagine it's really tough when your daughter's ex has unlimited funds and is revered in STL.

Poor kids. I hope Jim is being a good father and that their mom gets well.


Please explain to me how he's being a "good father" by suddenly removing the children from their entire world in STL. He has unlimited funds, he can afford to set up a home in STL quickly.


Given he has custody now, being a good father is giving them a safe and stable home to live in. Many people move with their kids when they have primary or sole custody to be in the best environment for the family.


He can set up a "safe and stable" home in STL, so the kids can continue to live where they have been growing up. In fact, he has the ability to quickly rent a fully furnished mansion in STL, so as to provide the kids which as much normalcy as possible in this horrendous situation. He did not do that.

As to your second statement, that's simply over-generalized and wrong. "Many people...", just, no. I have primary custody and I cannot just up and move with my kids. Primary custody and sole custody are two very different things.

As to Jim's newly acquired sole custody, he has very obvious longtime roots in STL as do his kids AND the kids' mother. He just moved to TN this year, a place to which he has zero significant connection. Literally only months. What an absolute joke.

If you cannot see through this, I can't help you.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hard to believe, but in the 2000s, Jim Edmonds was actually quite the eligible bachelor in St. Louis due to being part of a really great Cardinals team. I could see how Meghan ignored the red flags when they met.

I lived in STL and followed Meghan early on social media. Looking back, I can see now that some of her posts - even going back 15 years - were really manic. It wouldn't surprise me if she had mental illness. Add in 3 kids in 2 years, a cheating spouse and other stressors... and I imagine she just broke. To me, her oversharing on social media seems like a cry for help.

I don't know that Edmonds is the monster people are making him out to be. I guess it's good he and his wife are stepping up with the kids. But to move his kids to TN at a time when they probably really need their mother and some assurance she's going to be okay... I dunno. Seems like it would've been better for them to relocate back to STL and help Meghan get the help she needs.

Her family was a nice, normal St. Louis family back in the day. I wonder if they are trying to stay involved in the kids' lives. I imagine it's really tough when your daughter's ex has unlimited funds and is revered in STL.

Poor kids. I hope Jim is being a good father and that their mom gets well.


He for sure is well-known and likely has sway in STL, but he is also a known giant a-hole in STL. Local media and fans have widely characterized him as cold, difficult, dismissive, a jerk, narcissistic, insufferable, and on and on.


True! I shouldn’t have said “revered”. Maybe more like, I wonder if her family is too “intimidated” by him to get involved. And actually they wouldn’t exactly have a good court case anyway; he’s the father, his rights would much prevail over grandparents. I was just more thinking, I wonder what her family - who seemed pretty normal back in the day - think of all this.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hard to believe, but in the 2000s, Jim Edmonds was actually quite the eligible bachelor in St. Louis due to being part of a really great Cardinals team. I could see how Meghan ignored the red flags when they met.

I lived in STL and followed Meghan early on social media. Looking back, I can see now that some of her posts - even going back 15 years - were really manic. It wouldn't surprise me if she had mental illness. Add in 3 kids in 2 years, a cheating spouse and other stressors... and I imagine she just broke. To me, her oversharing on social media seems like a cry for help.

I don't know that Edmonds is the monster people are making him out to be. I guess it's good he and his wife are stepping up with the kids. But to move his kids to TN at a time when they probably really need their mother and some assurance she's going to be okay... I dunno. Seems like it would've been better for them to relocate back to STL and help Meghan get the help she needs.

Her family was a nice, normal St. Louis family back in the day. I wonder if they are trying to stay involved in the kids' lives. I imagine it's really tough when your daughter's ex has unlimited funds and is revered in STL.

Poor kids. I hope Jim is being a good father and that their mom gets well.


He for sure is well-known and likely has sway in STL, but he is also a known giant a-hole in STL. Local media and fans have widely characterized him as cold, difficult, dismissive, a jerk, narcissistic, insufferable, and on and on.


True! I shouldn’t have said “revered”. Maybe more like, I wonder if her family is too “intimidated” by him to get involved. And actually they wouldn’t exactly have a good court case anyway; he’s the father, his rights would much prevail over grandparents. I was just more thinking, I wonder what her family - who seemed pretty normal back in the day - think of all this.


I am positive her family is involved - they are for sure supporting her in all of the ways they can, privately. There is no way they would publicly say anything; that could affect her case. They are not named parties in the custody case, it's between the parents, so they are not legally involved (other than possibly providing affidavits or testifying in court in support of her).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wonder if there was some kind of medical abuse / munchausen’s happening. The child she referred to as ‘severely disabled’ and who issues she posted about day and night. That is likely the child she was also self medicating. It will be interesting to see if once he is away from her if he still has all the same issues and if he is actually severely disabled.


There is no evidence about the ritual allegation. None of the tabloids has posted an actual, named source. At best, it's an attention-seeking Real Housewives alumna who said it because CPS would not turn over that information to them. Deep dive into Reddit suggests that this past year, after Jim moved to Tennessee, Meghan became a bit unhinged with sending emails to the school about pickups and how he'd moved away, etc. If anyone has credible evidence about the Ritalin allegation naming a real source, it would be nice to read it, because I'm so perplexed. No question Meghan has some issues, but you would have to be straight up insane, as a divorced parent in a high-conflict coparenting situation, to give your kid ritalin that you purchased on the black market without a prescription and ask a school employee to administer it? Like, totally insane. You would have to be insane even if you weren't divorced. Meghan - not popular right now, but insane? There has to be more to the story. Like, perhaps she got him a prescription for her child without Jim's consent, which is an issue if he has joint legal decision-making. That would still be a serious problem, but not the sensational story that Jim's team is spinning to the media.


I am basing it more on how much she talked about the child’s health issues on her social media and how much it seemed to be a big part of her content / identity. I don’t care about ‘spin’. They both do that. But there was a CPS call that was did fix ant enough to remove the kid from her home and then a CPS investigation that she agreed to give up custody. Meghan’s father is a lawyer. She would know her rights and she would have significant legal input into her decisions.


What garbage is this? CPS investigation where she agreed to give up custody? Huh? No, not how it works. And Meghan's father is a lawyer practicing corporate/business, real estate, construction, etc law, NOT family law. That's like asking a pediatrician for "significant input" regarding your skin cancer.

Good lord.
Anonymous
Given how much she complained about how hard her kids were to parent and how much she struggled as a parent, this might have been a relief for her. She seemed to have a high reliance on Nannie’s. I get people believe the kids should stay with her no matter what, but I disagree. I think she likely is dealing with mental health / substance use issues and that maybe the stress of 3 kids was more than she could handle. Similar to when dads have significant mental health / substance use issues - it is often best for the child to not be required to remain in that environment.

It could be the kids will be able to develop a much healthier relationship with their mom when they don’t live with her.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wonder if there was some kind of medical abuse / munchausen’s happening. The child she referred to as ‘severely disabled’ and who issues she posted about day and night. That is likely the child she was also self medicating. It will be interesting to see if once he is away from her if he still has all the same issues and if he is actually severely disabled.


There is no evidence about the ritual allegation. None of the tabloids has posted an actual, named source. At best, it's an attention-seeking Real Housewives alumna who said it because CPS would not turn over that information to them. Deep dive into Reddit suggests that this past year, after Jim moved to Tennessee, Meghan became a bit unhinged with sending emails to the school about pickups and how he'd moved away, etc. If anyone has credible evidence about the Ritalin allegation naming a real source, it would be nice to read it, because I'm so perplexed. No question Meghan has some issues, but you would have to be straight up insane, as a divorced parent in a high-conflict coparenting situation, to give your kid ritalin that you purchased on the black market without a prescription and ask a school employee to administer it? Like, totally insane. You would have to be insane even if you weren't divorced. Meghan - not popular right now, but insane? There has to be more to the story. Like, perhaps she got him a prescription for her child without Jim's consent, which is an issue if he has joint legal decision-making. That would still be a serious problem, but not the sensational story that Jim's team is spinning to the media.


I am basing it more on how much she talked about the child’s health issues on her social media and how much it seemed to be a big part of her content / identity. I don’t care about ‘spin’. They both do that. But there was a CPS call that was did fix ant enough to remove the kid from her home and then a CPS investigation that she agreed to give up custody. Meghan’s father is a lawyer. She would know her rights and she would have significant legal input into her decisions.


What garbage is this? CPS investigation where she agreed to give up custody? Huh? No, not how it works. And Meghan's father is a lawyer practicing corporate/business, real estate, construction, etc law, NOT family law. That's like asking a pediatrician for "significant input" regarding your skin cancer.

Good lord.


There was a CPS investigation. After that investigation ended and before court, she agreed to give up custody. And lawyers in one area know lots of other lawyers, just like doctors in one specialty know lots of other doctors. There is definitely a network of support and an added level of knowledge when you have someone in the law / medical field compared to when you don’t.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Given how much she complained about how hard her kids were to parent and how much she struggled as a parent, this might have been a relief for her. She seemed to have a high reliance on Nannie’s. I get people believe the kids should stay with her no matter what, but I disagree. I think she likely is dealing with mental health / substance use issues and that maybe the stress of 3 kids was more than she could handle. Similar to when dads have significant mental health / substance use issues - it is often best for the child to not be required to remain in that environment.

It could be the kids will be able to develop a much healthier relationship with their mom when they don’t live with her.


Oh come on. This is hilarious. This is mom-shaming at its finest.

Please show me evidence where Jim has shouldered parenting his many kids on his own with ease and many gold stars. And without "high reliance on nannies".

And yes, for sure moving forward the kids will continue to maintain a healthy close relationship with their mother while living in a completely different state where they were raised and being in her custody only for a few weeks every summer.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Given how much she complained about how hard her kids were to parent and how much she struggled as a parent, this might have been a relief for her. She seemed to have a high reliance on Nannie’s. I get people believe the kids should stay with her no matter what, but I disagree. I think she likely is dealing with mental health / substance use issues and that maybe the stress of 3 kids was more than she could handle. Similar to when dads have significant mental health / substance use issues - it is often best for the child to not be required to remain in that environment.

It could be the kids will be able to develop a much healthier relationship with their mom when they don’t live with her.

This is the issue with so many posters, across this site. They are blinded by this belief that nothing else matters.
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