DC traffic cameras issued 3.3 MILLION tickets last year

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Anonymous wrote:Did you know there's almost no stop sign cameras west of the park? I wonder how that happens....


There's 17 speed cameras in Ward 3. In Ward 7, there's almost 60.


Listing this without listing data on accidents or fatalities isn’t that useful.
Traffic accidents, injuries, and fatalities are FAR higher in ward 7 than 3. This isn’t the racist “gotcha” that you think it is.



Where's the evidence that traffic cameras reduce accidents? DC has increasing ticketing by almost 10 times. Where's the corresponding reduction in traffic deaths?


The evidence was provided to you several pages back. But you reject it because it destroys your thesis. You are this website’s most boring broken record.


No one has provided any evidence. That's the issue.


If there were evidence, it would be obvious by now. The city has increased ticketing by nearly 1000 percent over the past decade, and issues enough tickets each year to hit every driver in the city multiple times, and yet accident rates are no better than they were 10 years ago.


it's not just that handing out a billion traffic tickets isn't making a difference, it's literally everything dot is doing isn't making a difference.


Another factor is that, during COVID people started driving through DC like bats out of hell. Dialing that back requires significant action.


I'll take things that never happened for $200, Alex.

The number of speeding related deaths in DC is pretty much the same every single year since forever.
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Anonymous wrote:Did you know there's almost no stop sign cameras west of the park? I wonder how that happens....


There's 17 speed cameras in Ward 3. In Ward 7, there's almost 60.


Listing this without listing data on accidents or fatalities isn’t that useful.
Traffic accidents, injuries, and fatalities are FAR higher in ward 7 than 3. This isn’t the racist “gotcha” that you think it is.



Where's the evidence that traffic cameras reduce accidents? DC has increasing ticketing by almost 10 times. Where's the corresponding reduction in traffic deaths?


The evidence was provided to you several pages back. But you reject it because it destroys your thesis. You are this website’s most boring broken record.


No one has provided any evidence. That's the issue.


If there were evidence, it would be obvious by now. The city has increased ticketing by nearly 1000 percent over the past decade, and issues enough tickets each year to hit every driver in the city multiple times, and yet accident rates are no better than they were 10 years ago.


it's not just that handing out a billion traffic tickets isn't making a difference, it's literally everything dot is doing isn't making a difference.


Another factor is that, during COVID people started driving through DC like bats out of hell. Dialing that back requires significant action.


I'll take things that never happened for $200, Alex.

The number of speeding related deaths in DC is pretty much the same every single year since forever.


Where in the world do you actually live?

Almost all traffic deaths are caused by speed, regardless of whether speeding is listed as the "primary cause" by the attending officer or not. I believe the physics behind this have been explained to you many times over the past few years, but yet you continue to peddle nonsense.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Did you know there's almost no stop sign cameras west of the park? I wonder how that happens....


There's 17 speed cameras in Ward 3. In Ward 7, there's almost 60.


Listing this without listing data on accidents or fatalities isn’t that useful.
Traffic accidents, injuries, and fatalities are FAR higher in ward 7 than 3. This isn’t the racist “gotcha” that you think it is.



Where's the evidence that traffic cameras reduce accidents? DC has increasing ticketing by almost 10 times. Where's the corresponding reduction in traffic deaths?


The evidence was provided to you several pages back. But you reject it because it destroys your thesis. You are this website’s most boring broken record.


No one has provided any evidence. That's the issue.


If there were evidence, it would be obvious by now. The city has increased ticketing by nearly 1000 percent over the past decade, and issues enough tickets each year to hit every driver in the city multiple times, and yet accident rates are no better than they were 10 years ago.


it's not just that handing out a billion traffic tickets isn't making a difference, it's literally everything dot is doing isn't making a difference.


Another factor is that, during COVID people started driving through DC like bats out of hell. Dialing that back requires significant action.


Funny how the explosion of ticketing correlates with the city's budget problems, and not COVID.

2020: 1.4 million tickets
2021: 1.4 million tickets
2022: 1.4 million tickets
2023: 1.8 million tickets
2024: 3.3 million tickets
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Did you know there's almost no stop sign cameras west of the park? I wonder how that happens....


There's 17 speed cameras in Ward 3. In Ward 7, there's almost 60.


Listing this without listing data on accidents or fatalities isn’t that useful.
Traffic accidents, injuries, and fatalities are FAR higher in ward 7 than 3. This isn’t the racist “gotcha” that you think it is.



Where's the evidence that traffic cameras reduce accidents? DC has increasing ticketing by almost 10 times. Where's the corresponding reduction in traffic deaths?


The evidence was provided to you several pages back. But you reject it because it destroys your thesis. You are this website’s most boring broken record.


No one has provided any evidence. That's the issue.


If there were evidence, it would be obvious by now. The city has increased ticketing by nearly 1000 percent over the past decade, and issues enough tickets each year to hit every driver in the city multiple times, and yet accident rates are no better than they were 10 years ago.


it's not just that handing out a billion traffic tickets isn't making a difference, it's literally everything dot is doing isn't making a difference.


Another factor is that, during COVID people started driving through DC like bats out of hell. Dialing that back requires significant action.


I'll take things that never happened for $200, Alex.

The number of speeding related deaths in DC is pretty much the same every single year since forever.


Where in the world do you actually live?

Almost all traffic deaths are caused by speed, regardless of whether speeding is listed as the "primary cause" by the attending officer or not. I believe the physics behind this have been explained to you many times over the past few years, but yet you continue to peddle nonsense.


That is not true. There's a whole range of reasons for traffic deaths. Typically about one-third involve speeding.
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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Did you know there's almost no stop sign cameras west of the park? I wonder how that happens....[/quote]

There's 17 speed cameras in Ward 3. In Ward 7, there's almost 60.

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Listing this without listing data on accidents or fatalities isn’t that useful.
Traffic accidents, injuries, and fatalities are FAR higher in ward 7 than 3. This isn’t the racist “gotcha” that you think it is.

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[b]Where's the evidence that traffic cameras reduce accidents?[/b] DC has increasing ticketing by almost 10 times. Where's the corresponding reduction in traffic deaths? [/quote]

The evidence was provided to you several pages back. But you reject it because it destroys your thesis. You are this website’s most boring broken record.[/quote]

No one has provided any evidence. That's the issue. [/quote]

If there were evidence, it would be obvious by now. The city has increased ticketing by nearly 1000 percent over the past decade, and issues enough tickets each year to hit every driver in the city multiple times, and yet accident rates are no better than they were 10 years ago. [/quote]

it's not just that handing out a billion traffic tickets isn't making a difference, it's literally everything dot is doing isn't making a difference. [/quote]

Another factor is that, during COVID people started driving through DC like bats out of hell. Dialing that back requires significant action.[/quote]

Funny how the explosion of ticketing correlates with the city's budget problems, and not COVID.

2020: 1.4 million tickets
2021: 1.4 million tickets
2022: 1.4 million tickets
2023: 1.8 million tickets
2024: 3.3 million tickets [/quote]

They massively increased the amount of cameras during the pandemic. What you're seeing is the implementation lag.

Most of the recent bad decisions happened in 2022 when people weren't paying attention. That's why congestion is so much worse now then it was in 2019.

There was also an old lady who swallowed a fly situation after they curtailed MPD.

It could have been even worse. Some of the extremists wanted to shrink every road plus putting cameras and speed bumps on every block.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Did you know there's almost no stop sign cameras west of the park? I wonder how that happens....


There's 17 speed cameras in Ward 3. In Ward 7, there's almost 60.


Listing this without listing data on accidents or fatalities isn’t that useful.
Traffic accidents, injuries, and fatalities are FAR higher in ward 7 than 3. This isn’t the racist “gotcha” that you think it is.



Where's the evidence that traffic cameras reduce accidents? DC has increasing ticketing by almost 10 times. Where's the corresponding reduction in traffic deaths?


The evidence was provided to you several pages back. But you reject it because it destroys your thesis. You are this website’s most boring broken record.


No one has provided any evidence. That's the issue.


If there were evidence, it would be obvious by now. The city has increased ticketing by nearly 1000 percent over the past decade, and issues enough tickets each year to hit every driver in the city multiple times, and yet accident rates are no better than they were 10 years ago.


it's not just that handing out a billion traffic tickets isn't making a difference, it's literally everything dot is doing isn't making a difference.


Another factor is that, during COVID people started driving through DC like bats out of hell. Dialing that back requires significant action.


Funny how the explosion of ticketing correlates with the city's budget problems, and not COVID.

2020: 1.4 million tickets
2021: 1.4 million tickets
2022: 1.4 million tickets
2023: 1.8 million tickets
2024: 3.3 million tickets


DC tickets are also crazy expensive. Tickets in NYC and San Francisco are $50. Ours start at $100 and double if you're late paying them.
Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Did you know there's almost no stop sign cameras west of the park? I wonder how that happens....[/quote]

There's 17 speed cameras in Ward 3. In Ward 7, there's almost 60.

[/quote]
Listing this without listing data on accidents or fatalities isn’t that useful.
Traffic accidents, injuries, and fatalities are FAR higher in ward 7 than 3. This isn’t the racist “gotcha” that you think it is.

[/quote]

[b]Where's the evidence that traffic cameras reduce accidents?[/b] DC has increasing ticketing by almost 10 times. Where's the corresponding reduction in traffic deaths? [/quote]

The evidence was provided to you several pages back. But you reject it because it destroys your thesis. You are this website’s most boring broken record.[/quote]

No one has provided any evidence. That's the issue. [/quote]

If there were evidence, it would be obvious by now. The city has increased ticketing by nearly 1000 percent over the past decade, and issues enough tickets each year to hit every driver in the city multiple times, and yet accident rates are no better than they were 10 years ago. [/quote]

it's not just that handing out a billion traffic tickets isn't making a difference, it's literally everything dot is doing isn't making a difference. [/quote]

Another factor is that, during COVID people started driving through DC like bats out of hell. Dialing that back requires significant action.[/quote]

Funny how the explosion of ticketing correlates with the city's budget problems, and not COVID.

2020: 1.4 million tickets
2021: 1.4 million tickets
2022: 1.4 million tickets
2023: 1.8 million tickets
2024: 3.3 million tickets [/quote]

They massively increased the amount of cameras during the pandemic. What you're seeing is the implementation lag.

Most of the recent bad decisions happened in 2022 when people weren't paying attention. That's why congestion is so much worse now then it was in 2019.

There was also an old lady who swallowed a fly situation after they curtailed MPD.

It could have been even worse. Some of the extremists wanted to shrink every road plus putting cameras and speed bumps on every block. [/quote]
Congestion is worse because vehicles get bigger, drivers are more distracted and parking in travel lanes is low risk.
Anonymous
Congestion is worse because you all went on a building spree of lights, cameras, stop signs, speed bumps, bump outs, and lane removals from 2022-2024. Increasing congestion was also the stated goal. Congratulations I guess.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Congestion is worse because you all went on a building spree of lights, cameras, stop signs, speed bumps, bump outs, and lane removals from 2022-2024. Increasing congestion was also the stated goal. Congratulations I guess.



The primary result of it all will be to increase greenhouse gas emissions.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Congestion is worse because you all went on a building spree of lights, cameras, stop signs, speed bumps, bump outs, and lane removals from 2022-2024. Increasing congestion was also the stated goal. Congratulations I guess.


Don't let all the people that moved to far flung suburbs during Covid off the hook, or stopped riding metro...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Congestion is worse because you all went on a building spree of lights, cameras, stop signs, speed bumps, bump outs, and lane removals from 2022-2024. Increasing congestion was also the stated goal. Congratulations I guess.



The primary result of it all will be to increase greenhouse gas emissions.


You can buy a smaller more fuel efficient car to offset the emissions.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Congestion is worse because you all went on a building spree of lights, cameras, stop signs, speed bumps, bump outs, and lane removals from 2022-2024. Increasing congestion was also the stated goal. Congratulations I guess.


Don't let all the people that moved to far flung suburbs during Covid off the hook, or stopped riding metro...


This isn't some mystery. We know the cause because it was done intentionally.
Anonymous
How about this? If we can implement a commuter tax so that people from Maryland and Viriginia pay to maintain DC's roads which they use, then they can have a say in how we organize our city and traffic enforcement?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How about this? If we can implement a commuter tax so that people from Maryland and Viriginia pay to maintain DC's roads which they use, then they can have a say in how we organize our city and traffic enforcement?


DC residents hate what the twitter brigade did to our streets as well.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:How about this? If we can implement a commuter tax so that people from Maryland and Viriginia pay to maintain DC's roads which they use, then they can have a say in how we organize our city and traffic enforcement?


DC residents hate what the twitter brigade did to our streets as well.


Then speak up and let the city know! Have you talked to your ANC rep?
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