Jury refuses to indict Sandwich Man and other Trump cop misadventures

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Anonymous wrote:^^dude nobody is making an actual legal argument. We are too far gone for that. what we are saying is you MAGAs are complete and utter hypocrites.

Why do you think it is okay to assault cops now. You wanted everyone who even walked on the Capitol Lawn on January 6 in prison. Meanwhile your buddies set fires in Lafayette Park and that was ok because antifa people enjoy playing with matches

He didn’t assault anyone. He threw a sandwich and was provoked.

Kind of different from gathering en masse to forcibly overturn an election and break into a government building and trash it.

So you just want to litigate January 6? If you are going to keep comparing this guy to January 6 please post an actual vidéo of à DOJ employee striking a police officer on January 6. And I mean not just theories and speculation but an actual video of a current, named, specific employee assaulting someone and please identify said employee in the video.

Yes, I want to “litigate” Jan 6. Well it was already litigated but Trump decided to reverse the results.

You are claiming that DOJ has employees who assaulting cops on January 6.I am asking you to provide proof to support your claim with a video and the name of the person.

Jared Wise has been hired by Trump’s DOJ.

Of course Republicans are fine with this guy in the DOJ - they are vile POSs.

Where is the video of him hitting a cop. Please show it.

Thanks for proving my point. You’re fine with the DOJ hiring the guy in the video.

Yes because the guy did not assault anyone. Please post the evidence.

So, throwing a sandwich at someone is a fireable offense, but breaking into the Capitol, yelling people to attack cops, trying to overthrow our election, that's nbd and ok to be hired in the WH.

Wow.

"Wow" Yes. Please post the video of a DOJ employee breaking into the Capitol. You never have any proof.

Everyone has posted Wise’s conduct multiple times. and the CURRENT DOJ supported and facilitated pardons for those who broke in.

Please post the video of him actually striking a law enforcement officer

Is your position that if Wise never laid a finger on an officer, he’s a good candidate for employment at the DOJ even though he repeatedly screamed at an angry mob, some of whom were violently assaulting officers, to kill the officers?

Let’s just agree to disagree then, because I think that should be disqualifying behavior for employment at the DOJ, as it not only shows as much contempt for the rule of law as refusing to follow an offer’s order to move back, and is every bit as dangerous as tossing deli meats and cheeses encased in soft bread at an officer, but it also shows disregard for human life.

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Anonymous wrote:^^dude nobody is making an actual legal argument. We are too far gone for that. what we are saying is you MAGAs are complete and utter hypocrites.

Why do you think it is okay to assault cops now. You wanted everyone who even walked on the Capitol Lawn on January 6 in prison. Meanwhile your buddies set fires in Lafayette Park and that was ok because antifa people enjoy playing with matches

He didn’t assault anyone. He threw a sandwich and was provoked.

Kind of different from gathering en masse to forcibly overturn an election and break into a government building and trash it.

So you just want to litigate January 6? If you are going to keep comparing this guy to January 6 please post an actual vidéo of à DOJ employee striking a police officer on January 6. And I mean not just theories and speculation but an actual video of a current, named, specific employee assaulting someone and please identify said employee in the video.

Yes, I want to “litigate” Jan 6. Well it was already litigated but Trump decided to reverse the results.

You are claiming that DOJ has employees who assaulting cops on January 6.I am asking you to provide proof to support your claim with a video and the name of the person.

Jared Wise has been hired by Trump’s DOJ.

Of course Republicans are fine with this guy in the DOJ - they are vile POSs.

Where is the video of him hitting a cop. Please show it.

Thanks for proving my point. You’re fine with the DOJ hiring the guy in the video.

Yes because the guy did not assault anyone. Please post the evidence.

So, throwing a sandwich at someone is a fireable offense, but breaking into the Capitol, yelling people to attack cops, trying to overthrow our election, that's nbd and ok to be hired in the WH.

Wow.

"Wow" Yes. Please post the video of a DOJ employee breaking into the Capitol. You never have any proof.

Everyone has posted Wise’s conduct multiple times. and the CURRENT DOJ supported and facilitated pardons for those who broke in.

Please post the video of him actually striking a law enforcement officer

Ffs. He did WORSE than striking a police officer. He was inciting a riot to KILL police officers in order to overturn an election. And CURRENT DOJ staff are knee deep in responsibility for pardoning the ones who hit officers and invaded the Capitol. Not sure why you think the fact that Wise was not on camera hitting anyone is some kind of gotcha.

So now he was the brains behind the entire riot? You have evidence that everyone did it because he said so?

You do know that id you went to court you would need evidence of an actual crime with witnesses? Your thoughts and theories about his intent are not evidence. You need documentation.

You’re pathetic

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Anonymous wrote:I hope that he sues over the loss of his job.

That would be awesome. He’s on video tape assaulting a federal officer.

Multiple current senior officials from DOJ were at January 6th. None of this matters anymore. Law enforcement are suckers, they got rolled by Trump.

And they are on film assaulting cops like this person did?

Trump thinks it’s okay to beat police officers with a flag pole because he pardoned the guys who did. So, are you saying this would be moot if he had a hostile and not a sandwich?

Please clarify if you’d rather be beaten with a flag pole in a mob or if you’d prefer to have some rando hit you in the shoulder with a meatball sub?

I am asking you if any current Trump officials are on film hitting a police officers. I guess the answer is no.

What is the meaning of being at January 6th. If I was standing at Constitution and 1st but did not enter the Capitol was I "at January 6?" Or was I just hanging out on Constitution?

Stop being obtuse.

I don’t think it’s deliberate.

MAGA be dumb AF.

OK well I still have a job as an attorney while your hero is at home crying and eating Subway sandwiches.

Your flaccid d*ck job at Heritage is not something to brag about.

😂😂😂😂😂. Perfect description. These MAGA lawyers attached to Heritage and Federalist Society really are the classic limp d*ck types.

Can you imagine not being able to tell anyone that you did for a living?

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Anonymous wrote:I hope that he sues over the loss of his job.

That would be awesome. He’s on video tape assaulting a federal officer.

Multiple current senior officials from DOJ were at January 6th. None of this matters anymore. Law enforcement are suckers, they got rolled by Trump.

And they are on film assaulting cops like this person did?

Trump thinks it’s okay to beat police officers with a flag pole because he pardoned the guys who did. So, are you saying this would be moot if he had a hostile and not a sandwich?

Please clarify if you’d rather be beaten with a flag pole in a mob or if you’d prefer to have some rando hit you in the shoulder with a meatball sub?

I am asking you if any current Trump officials are on film hitting a police officers. I guess the answer is no.

What is the meaning of being at January 6th. If I was standing at Constitution and 1st but did not enter the Capitol was I "at January 6?" Or was I just hanging out on Constitution?

Stop being obtuse.

I don’t think it’s deliberate.

MAGA be dumb AF.

OK well I still have a job as an attorney while your hero is at home crying and eating Subway sandwiches.

Your flaccid d*ck job at Heritage is not something to brag about.

It's better than your sandwich hero who is unemployed.

Only to a person with no conscience or moral integrity.

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Anonymous wrote:^^dude nobody is making an actual legal argument. We are too far gone for that. what we are saying is you MAGAs are complete and utter hypocrites.

Why do you think it is okay to assault cops now. You wanted everyone who even walked on the Capitol Lawn on January 6 in prison. Meanwhile your buddies set fires in Lafayette Park and that was ok because antifa people enjoy playing with matches

He didn’t assault anyone. He threw a sandwich and was provoked.

Kind of different from gathering en masse to forcibly overturn an election and break into a government building and trash it.

So you just want to litigate January 6? If you are going to keep comparing this guy to January 6 please post an actual vidéo of à DOJ employee striking a police officer on January 6. And I mean not just theories and speculation but an actual video of a current, named, specific employee assaulting someone and please identify said employee in the video.

Yes, I want to “litigate” Jan 6. Well it was already litigated but Trump decided to reverse the results.

You are claiming that DOJ has employees who assaulting cops on January 6.I am asking you to provide proof to support your claim with a video and the name of the person.

Jared Wise has been hired by Trump’s DOJ.

Of course Republicans are fine with this guy in the DOJ - they are vile POSs.

Where is the video of him hitting a cop. Please show it.

Thanks for proving my point. You’re fine with the DOJ hiring the guy in the video.

THE video you posted does not show him assaulting an officer. Please post that video for an apples to apples comparison

DP: Assault does not require "hitting." Also there are other crimes related to the threatening language seen in the video. If you read the DC code you will understand why yelling 'kill 'em" ("'em" being the police) during a seditionist riot, especially one where police were injured and died (thought that fact is net a necessary element), is a felony.

Also, re sandwich guy, grand juries do not typically hear misdemeanor charges, like simple assault and simple battery, so the sandwich throwing event heard by the grand jury was charged as felony A&B, which is laughable if you know the elements of felony assault or felony battery, even on an officer. The misdemeanor charge might stick if all the elements are there, but that does not require a grand jury indictment. It was a huge waste of time and money to take this matter to a grand jury, and having been on a grand jury (everyone in my household has served on grand juries), I can tell you that these citizens have little patience for prosecutors wasting their valuable time.

Re: P1…It’s called “accomplice liability”.

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Anonymous wrote:^^dude nobody is making an actual legal argument. We are too far gone for that. what we are saying is you MAGAs are complete and utter hypocrites.

Why do you think it is okay to assault cops now. You wanted everyone who even walked on the Capitol Lawn on January 6 in prison. Meanwhile your buddies set fires in Lafayette Park and that was ok because antifa people enjoy playing with matches

He didn’t assault anyone. He threw a sandwich and was provoked.

Kind of different from gathering en masse to forcibly overturn an election and break into a government building and trash it.

So you just want to litigate January 6? If you are going to keep comparing this guy to January 6 please post an actual vidéo of à DOJ employee striking a police officer on January 6. And I mean not just theories and speculation but an actual video of a current, named, specific employee assaulting someone and please identify said employee in the video.

Yes, I want to “litigate” Jan 6. Well it was already litigated but Trump decided to reverse the results.

You are claiming that DOJ has employees who assaulting cops on January 6.I am asking you to provide proof to support your claim with a video and the name of the person.

Jared Wise has been hired by Trump’s DOJ.

Of course Republicans are fine with this guy in the DOJ - they are vile POSs.

Where is the video of him hitting a cop. Please show it.

Thanks for proving my point. You’re fine with the DOJ hiring the guy in the video.

Yes because the guy did not assault anyone. Please post the evidence.

So, throwing a sandwich at someone is a fireable offense, but breaking into the Capitol, yelling people to attack cops, trying to overthrow our election, that's nbd and ok to be hired in the WH.

Wow.

"Wow" Yes. Please post the video of a DOJ employee breaking into the Capitol. You never have any proof.

Everyone has posted Wise’s conduct multiple times. and the CURRENT DOJ supported and facilitated pardons for those who broke in.

Please post the video of him actually striking a law enforcement officer

Ffs. He did WORSE than striking a police officer. He was inciting a riot to KILL police officers in order to overturn an election. And CURRENT DOJ staff are knee deep in responsibility for pardoning the ones who hit officers and invaded the Capitol. Not sure why you think the fact that Wise was not on camera hitting anyone is some kind of gotcha.

So now he was the brains behind the entire riot? You have evidence that everyone did it because he said so?

You do know that id you went to court you would need evidence of an actual crime with witnesses? Your thoughts and theories about his intent are not evidence. You need documentation.

You’re pathetic

I'm pathetic for pointing out you need evidence to make a court case?

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I think it's funny everyone thinks J6 is relevant. Do you believe the Subway Assaulter will be allowed to introduce evidence of J6, and the judge will acquit?

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Anonymous wrote:^^dude nobody is making an actual legal argument. We are too far gone for that. what we are saying is you MAGAs are complete and utter hypocrites.

Why do you think it is okay to assault cops now. You wanted everyone who even walked on the Capitol Lawn on January 6 in prison. Meanwhile your buddies set fires in Lafayette Park and that was ok because antifa people enjoy playing with matches

He didn’t assault anyone. He threw a sandwich and was provoked.

Kind of different from gathering en masse to forcibly overturn an election and break into a government building and trash it.

So you just want to litigate January 6? If you are going to keep comparing this guy to January 6 please post an actual vidéo of à DOJ employee striking a police officer on January 6. And I mean not just theories and speculation but an actual video of a current, named, specific employee assaulting someone and please identify said employee in the video.

Yes, I want to “litigate” Jan 6. Well it was already litigated but Trump decided to reverse the results.

You are claiming that DOJ has employees who assaulting cops on January 6.I am asking you to provide proof to support your claim with a video and the name of the person.

Jared Wise has been hired by Trump’s DOJ.

Of course Republicans are fine with this guy in the DOJ - they are vile POSs.

Where is the video of him hitting a cop. Please show it.

Thanks for proving my point. You’re fine with the DOJ hiring the guy in the video.

Yes because the guy did not assault anyone. Please post the evidence.

So, throwing a sandwich at someone is a fireable offense, but breaking into the Capitol, yelling people to attack cops, trying to overthrow our election, that's nbd and ok to be hired in the WH.

Wow.

"Wow" Yes. Please post the video of a DOJ employee breaking into the Capitol. You never have any proof.

Everyone has posted Wise’s conduct multiple times. and the CURRENT DOJ supported and facilitated pardons for those who broke in.

Please post the video of him actually striking a law enforcement officer

Ffs. He did WORSE than striking a police officer. He was inciting a riot to KILL police officers in order to overturn an election. And CURRENT DOJ staff are knee deep in responsibility for pardoning the ones who hit officers and invaded the Capitol. Not sure why you think the fact that Wise was not on camera hitting anyone is some kind of gotcha.

So now he was the brains behind the entire riot? You have evidence that everyone did it because he said so?

You do know that id you went to court you would need evidence of an actual crime with witnesses? Your thoughts and theories about his intent are not evidence. You need documentation.

You’re pathetic

I'm pathetic for pointing out you need evidence to make a court case?

Wise was indicted dumb*ss.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's funny everyone thinks J6 is relevant. Do you believe the Subway Assaulter will be allowed to introduce evidence of J6, and the judge will acquit?

Did you miss the part where the grand jury didn’t indict him? And in fact the defense attorneys in these cases have raised the J6 pardons in court.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's funny everyone thinks J6 is relevant. Do you believe the Subway Assaulter will be allowed to introduce evidence of J6, and the judge will acquit?

DCUM isn’t a court of law. Posters are allowed to take the entirety of Trump’s and his minions’ actions into account when forming their opinions on this administration’s policies, the motives behind them, their implementation, and the end results. We can appreciate the context of this month’s events.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's funny everyone thinks J6 is relevant. Do you believe the Subway Assaulter will be allowed to introduce evidence of J6, and the judge will acquit?

DCUM isn’t a court of law. Posters are allowed to take the entirety of Trump’s and his minions’ actions into account when forming their opinions on this administration’s policies, the motives behind them, their implementation, and the end results. We can appreciate the context of this month’s events.

Of course! That's also what voters did regarding the Biden - Harris years.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's funny everyone thinks J6 is relevant. Do you believe the Subway Assaulter will be allowed to introduce evidence of J6, and the judge will acquit?

DCUM isn’t a court of law. Posters are allowed to take the entirety of Trump’s and his minions’ actions into account when forming their opinions on this administration’s policies, the motives behind them, their implementation, and the end results. We can appreciate the context of this month’s events.

Of course! That's also what voters did regarding the Biden - Harris years.

Then why is anyone asking why people are pointing out Trump’s hypocrisy?

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's funny everyone thinks J6 is relevant. Do you believe the Subway Assaulter will be allowed to introduce evidence of J6, and the judge will acquit?

DCUM isn’t a court of law. Posters are allowed to take the entirety of Trump’s and his minions’ actions into account when forming their opinions on this administration’s policies, the motives behind them, their implementation, and the end results. We can appreciate the context of this month’s events.

Of course! That's also what voters did regarding the Biden - Harris years.

Then why is anyone asking why people are pointing out Trump’s hypocrisy?

PP here. Well, I'm not questioning the reason ; but I suppose those who do think that most posters here didn't question Biden.

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Anonymous wrote:^^dude nobody is making an actual legal argument. We are too far gone for that. what we are saying is you MAGAs are complete and utter hypocrites.

Why do you think it is okay to assault cops now. You wanted everyone who even walked on the Capitol Lawn on January 6 in prison. Meanwhile your buddies set fires in Lafayette Park and that was ok because antifa people enjoy playing with matches

He didn’t assault anyone. He threw a sandwich and was provoked.

Kind of different from gathering en masse to forcibly overturn an election and break into a government building and trash it.

So you just want to litigate January 6? If you are going to keep comparing this guy to January 6 please post an actual vidéo of à DOJ employee striking a police officer on January 6. And I mean not just theories and speculation but an actual video of a current, named, specific employee assaulting someone and please identify said employee in the video.

Yes, I want to “litigate” Jan 6. Well it was already litigated but Trump decided to reverse the results.

You are claiming that DOJ has employees who assaulting cops on January 6.I am asking you to provide proof to support your claim with a video and the name of the person.

Jared Wise has been hired by Trump’s DOJ.

Of course Republicans are fine with this guy in the DOJ - they are vile POSs.

Where is the video of him hitting a cop. Please show it.

Thanks for proving my point. You’re fine with the DOJ hiring the guy in the video.

Yes because the guy did not assault anyone. Please post the evidence.

So, throwing a sandwich at someone is a fireable offense, but breaking into the Capitol, yelling people to attack cops, trying to overthrow our election, that's nbd and ok to be hired in the WH.

Wow.

"Wow" Yes. Please post the video of a DOJ employee breaking into the Capitol. You never have any proof.

Everyone has posted Wise’s conduct multiple times. and the CURRENT DOJ supported and facilitated pardons for those who broke in.

Please post the video of him actually striking a law enforcement officer

Ffs. He did WORSE than striking a police officer. He was inciting a riot to KILL police officers in order to overturn an election. And CURRENT DOJ staff are knee deep in responsibility for pardoning the ones who hit officers and invaded the Capitol. Not sure why you think the fact that Wise was not on camera hitting anyone is some kind of gotcha.

So now he was the brains behind the entire riot? You have evidence that everyone did it because he said so?

You do know that id you went to court you would need evidence of an actual crime with witnesses? Your thoughts and theories about his intent are not evidence. You need documentation.

Why are you trying to defend this guy? He was indicted. He admitted he did it under oath.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's funny everyone thinks J6 is relevant. Do you believe the Subway Assaulter will be allowed to introduce evidence of J6, and the judge will acquit?

DCUM isn’t a court of law. Posters are allowed to take the entirety of Trump’s and his minions’ actions into account when forming their opinions on this administration’s policies, the motives behind them, their implementation, and the end results. We can appreciate the context of this month’s events.

OK but if you are fired from a government job you need evidence for MSPB. You are not going to win your termination case by pointing out posts on DCUM. So your argument about other Trump supporters at DOJ does not help the terminated employee in any way.