Five weeks in. RTO is literally killing me!

[Anonymous]

It isn’t accurate that most white color workers go into the office 5 days a week.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It isn’t accurate that most white color workers go into the office 5 days a week.

Neither do most of the federal workers. Most of them get every other Friday off or even every Friday.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It isn’t accurate that most white color workers go into the office 5 days a week.

Neither do most of the federal workers. Most of them get every other Friday off or even every Friday.

Only if the work 9x9 or 8x10

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It isn’t accurate that most white color workers go into the office 5 days a week.

Neither do most of the federal workers. Most of them get every other Friday off or even every Friday.

Tell that to my husband who has to work this Saturday, after traveling Sun-Wed and working late today and tomorrow. Deadlines exist in the federal government too. Id love it if my husband had off every Friday or EO Friday. Thatd be the dream...but thats what it is, a dream. Reality is most feds work and when they arent at work they use their leave, which is a benefit most white-collar jobs have so its not like they get the world here hun.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It isn’t accurate that most white color workers go into the office 5 days a week.

Neither do most of the federal workers. Most of them get every other Friday off or even every Friday.

Tell that to my husband who has to work this Saturday, after traveling Sun-Wed and working late today and tomorrow. Deadlines exist in the federal government too. Id love it if my husband had off every Friday or EO Friday. Thatd be the dream...but thats what it is, a dream. Reality is most feds work and when they arent at work they use their leave, which is a benefit most white-collar jobs have so its not like they get the world here hun.

I work on the weekends too. And I go in 4-5 days. I'm not sure why you think you're special.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It isn’t accurate that most white color workers go into the office 5 days a week.

Neither do most of the federal workers. Most of them get every other Friday off or even every Friday.

Factually incorrect now. I’m impressed with this lie.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It isn’t accurate that most white color workers go into the office 5 days a week.

Neither do most of the federal workers. Most of them get every other Friday off or even every Friday.

Factually incorrect now. I’m impressed with this lie.

Literally every fed I know does this. I know it's not an image you want to project (god forbid you admit) but it is absolutely true. It's not like we don't know federal workers in this area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It isn’t accurate that most white color workers go into the office 5 days a week.

Neither do most of the federal workers. Most of them get every other Friday off or even every Friday.

Factually incorrect now. I’m impressed with this lie.

Literally every fed I know does this. I know it's not an image you want to project (god forbid you admit) but it is absolutely true. It's not like we don't know federal workers in this area.

No one in my office has ever been able to do this AWS, and it is presently being removed from many agencies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It isn’t accurate that most white color workers go into the office 5 days a week.

Neither do most of the federal workers. Most of them get every other Friday off or even every Friday.

Factually incorrect now. I’m impressed with this lie.

Literally every fed I know does this. I know it's not an image you want to project (god forbid you admit) but it is absolutely true. It's not like we don't know federal workers in this area.

No one in my office has ever been able to do this AWS, and it is presently being removed from many agencies.

Yes, we are aware that the federal government is huge and that there are many different jobs that aren't conducive to AWS. However, there is a huge number of federal workers who have been doing this even while working from home.

[Anonymous]

Well the PP should stop spreading misinformation based their anecdotal info of two people they know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well the PP should stop spreading misinformation based their anecdotal info of two people they know.

Yeah I know it doesn't fit the narrative you're trying to spread, but it's too bad. It is what it is.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If employers want to go back to 1995, I'm going back to 1995 too.

No overtime without overtime pay, no checking email on weekends, I do my 8 hours 5 days a week and take my 30 minute lunch break outside the building and that's it.

It's what you have to do to be able to just do other basic activities of living if employers won't be flexible.

You obviously weren’t working a professional job in 1995. Yes, white collar salaried workers were working way more than 40 hours a week.

My dad, a PhD chemist who was a group leader in the ag industry at that time, was absolutely not working more than 40 a week in 1995.

When I interned at his company as a college student, I learned that company policy was to tell them where to reach you when you were on vacation.

I said “Dad, have you been doing this?” In 20+ years he had never once gotten contacted on vacation, so I wondered.

He said “Hell no. The only people who do that hate their families.”

No cell phone. Minimal email. Carpooler, so set transportation times every day.

Yes, I would take 1995 rules.

Great for your dad. That wasn't my experience AT ALL. I worked in 1995, I was a junior engineer at the time. Proposals ran over weekends, and late into the night. No emails or laptops, so you stayed at the office. Classified work? At the office. In the office at 8, out at 5--some weeks, sure. Many weeks were longer. Travelling for work? Do it after hours. People routinely worked longer.

I was thrilled when they switched to laptops and management got their first blackberrys (remember those, or are you too young?) because it meant I no longer had to be in the office for everything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If employers want to go back to 1995, I'm going back to 1995 too.

No overtime without overtime pay, no checking email on weekends, I do my 8 hours 5 days a week and take my 30 minute lunch break outside the building and that's it.

It's what you have to do to be able to just do other basic activities of living if employers won't be flexible.

You obviously weren’t working a professional job in 1995. Yes, white collar salaried workers were working way more than 40 hours a week.

My dad, a PhD chemist who was a group leader in the ag industry at that time, was absolutely not working more than 40 a week in 1995.

When I interned at his company as a college student, I learned that company policy was to tell them where to reach you when you were on vacation.

I said “Dad, have you been doing this?” In 20+ years he had never once gotten contacted on vacation, so I wondered.

He said “Hell no. The only people who do that hate their families.”

No cell phone. Minimal email. Carpooler, so set transportation times every day.

Yes, I would take 1995 rules.

Great for your dad. That wasn't my experience AT ALL. I worked in 1995, I was a junior engineer at the time. Proposals ran over weekends, and late into the night. No emails or laptops, so you stayed at the office. Classified work? At the office. In the office at 8, out at 5--some weeks, sure. Many weeks were longer. Travelling for work? Do it after hours. People routinely worked longer.

I was thrilled when they switched to laptops and management got their first blackberrys (remember those, or are you too young?) because it meant I no longer had to be in the office for everything.

Oh, and I forgot to mention the pager. When you had duty, in case of problems. Pager buzzed, you ran to nearest phone to return the call and either go into the office or into the customer site.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well the PP should stop spreading misinformation based their anecdotal info of two people they know.

Yeah I know it doesn't fit the narrative you're trying to spread, but it's too bad. It is what it is.

You are trying to spread a narrative. Please provide evidence based on the entirety of the federal workforce.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well the PP should stop spreading misinformation based their anecdotal info of two people they know.

Yeah I know it doesn't fit the narrative you're trying to spread, but it's too bad. It is what it is.

You are trying to spread a narrative. Please provide evidence based on the entirety of the federal workforce.

Did I ever claim the entirety of the federal workforce does this?