IB Programs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Point taken. I will mention that RMIB list looks different. It is titled "IB college list for classes 2024, 2023, 2023, 2021 attending. Attending is repeatedly underlined for each class.

It doesn't talk about applications, admissions.. gives no percentages. Just a list of colleges and the number of students from each class attending each of the colleges. There is no disclaimer that it is student reports. However, the source of the list is unclear. The list was given to parents in the hallways during orientation together with list of clubs, flyers about IB and similar.

You know the numbers are made up because if you look at this document the quoted admission rate from IB at Berkeley is 58%, while from the other link it was 24%.

https://kennedy.auhsd.us/files/page/7517/2017_JFKIBDP_Presentation_Enlgish.pdf

Needless to say it’s neither. For Kennedy I suspect it’s closer to 0%.

If a high school lies so blatantly to parents at info nights, that’s enough for me to not send my kids there.

The documents are obviously made at different times. The second one you reference has 2017 as a date in it. That's not a lie. Do they need to update their marketing? Yeah.

But as someone whose child went through Kennedy's IB program, got into several selective colleges, and is now thriving at one of them, I really wish you people who didn't send their kids there would just shut up about it. Kennedy is a solid choice. And frankly, it probably looks better to a lot of admissions reps than RMIB.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Point taken. I will mention that RMIB list looks different. It is titled "IB college list for classes 2024, 2023, 2023, 2021 attending. Attending is repeatedly underlined for each class.

It doesn't talk about applications, admissions.. gives no percentages. Just a list of colleges and the number of students from each class attending each of the colleges. There is no disclaimer that it is student reports. However, the source of the list is unclear. The list was given to parents in the hallways during orientation together with list of clubs, flyers about IB and similar.

You know the numbers are made up because if you look at this document the quoted admission rate from IB at Berkeley is 58%, while from the other link it was 24%.

https://kennedy.auhsd.us/files/page/7517/2017_JFKIBDP_Presentation_Enlgish.pdf

Needless to say it’s neither. For Kennedy I suspect it’s closer to 0%.

If a high school lies so blatantly to parents at info nights, that’s enough for me to not send my kids there.

The documents are obviously made at different times. The second one you reference has 2017 as a date in it. That's not a lie. Do they need to update their marketing? Yeah.

But as someone whose child went through Kennedy's IB program, got into several selective colleges, and is now thriving at one of them, I really wish you people who didn't send their kids there would just shut up about it. Kennedy is a solid choice. And frankly, it probably looks better to a lot of admissions reps than RMIB.

Why? And how do you know what you know?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The IB program at Einstein was a disaster for my kid. His English and History classes leading up to it didn't have hardly any writing, so he was not prepared for the level of writing required by the IB classes. And his college did not give him any credit for his IB scores (5 to 7). I wish we had gone all AP.

Do more feel this way than not?

I feel the same. Other than the RMIB, it's not worth doing an IB program at the other schools. Your kid is better of finding more challenging work by doing AP classes. It will allow your kid to have more freedom in choosing classes.

The RMIB is wonderful because of the whole program and the cohort and is definitely worth the extra time/work/effort. It is an incredibly well-organized and well-supported program. The IBDP programs at some of the other HSs is not worth it - stick to AP classes instead.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The IB program at Einstein was a disaster for my kid. His English and History classes leading up to it didn't have hardly any writing, so he was not prepared for the level of writing required by the IB classes. And his college did not give him any credit for his IB scores (5 to 7). I wish we had gone all AP.

Do more feel this way than not?

I feel the same. Other than the RMIB, it's not worth doing an IB program at the other schools. Your kid is better of finding more challenging work by doing AP classes. It will allow your kid to have more freedom in choosing classes.

The RMIB is wonderful because of the whole program and the cohort and is definitely worth the extra time/work/effort. It is an incredibly well-organized and well-supported program. The IBDP programs at some of the other HSs is not worth it - stick to AP classes instead.

Are you familiar with IBDP at other schools to be saying so about their programs?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The IB program at Einstein was a disaster for my kid. His English and History classes leading up to it didn't have hardly any writing, so he was not prepared for the level of writing required by the IB classes. And his college did not give him any credit for his IB scores (5 to 7). I wish we had gone all AP.

Do more feel this way than not?

I feel the same. Other than the RMIB, it's not worth doing an IB program at the other schools. Your kid is better of finding more challenging work by doing AP classes. It will allow your kid to have more freedom in choosing classes.

The RMIB is wonderful because of the whole program and the cohort and is definitely worth the extra time/work/effort. It is an incredibly well-organized and well-supported program. The IBDP programs at some of the other HSs is not worth it - stick to AP classes instead.

Are you familiar with IBDP at other schools to be saying so about their programs?

Are you familiar with IBDP at other schools to know the contrary?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Point taken. I will mention that RMIB list looks different. It is titled "IB college list for classes 2024, 2023, 2023, 2021 attending. Attending is repeatedly underlined for each class.

It doesn't talk about applications, admissions.. gives no percentages. Just a list of colleges and the number of students from each class attending each of the colleges. There is no disclaimer that it is student reports. However, the source of the list is unclear. The list was given to parents in the hallways during orientation together with list of clubs, flyers about IB and similar.

You know the numbers are made up because if you look at this document the quoted admission rate from IB at Berkeley is 58%, while from the other link it was 24%.

https://kennedy.auhsd.us/files/page/7517/2017_JFKIBDP_Presentation_Enlgish.pdf

Needless to say it’s neither. For Kennedy I suspect it’s closer to 0%.

If a high school lies so blatantly to parents at info nights, that’s enough for me to not send my kids there.

The documents are obviously made at different times. The second one you reference has 2017 as a date in it. That's not a lie. Do they need to update their marketing? Yeah.

But as someone whose child went through Kennedy's IB program, got into several selective colleges, and is now thriving at one of them, I really wish you people who didn't send their kids there would just shut up about it. Kennedy is a solid choice. And frankly, it probably looks better to a lot of admissions reps than RMIB.

No IB student cohort had an admission rate at UC Berkeley of 58%, 2017 or not.

Presenting these slides at parent information nights is dishonest. That tells me everything about the integrity of the people running the program.

If they need to rely on these deceptions to enroll students, I’m guessing they are quite desperate. It doesn’t inspire confidence in the IB program, which btw is not very good to begin with.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The IB program at Einstein was a disaster for my kid. His English and History classes leading up to it didn't have hardly any writing, so he was not prepared for the level of writing required by the IB classes. And his college did not give him any credit for his IB scores (5 to 7). I wish we had gone all AP.

Do more feel this way than not?

I feel the same. Other than the RMIB, it's not worth doing an IB program at the other schools. Your kid is better of finding more challenging work by doing AP classes. It will allow your kid to have more freedom in choosing classes.

The RMIB is wonderful because of the whole program and the cohort and is definitely worth the extra time/work/effort. It is an incredibly well-organized and well-supported program. The IBDP programs at some of the other HSs is not worth it - stick to AP classes instead.

I agree with this. In addition to IB, RMIB has a broad AP offering, post AP courses, good teachers and students. That’s the receipt for a successful school.

AP is better than the non-magnet IB schools.

[Anonymous]

APs are a scam. How does that sound to you?

[Anonymous]

BCC parent here. Our college counselor said go for AP for strongest applications and that the top 20 have difficulty figuring out what to do with IB applicants. AP may be a scam like past posters say but it is the way it works.

[Anonymous]

And RM et al says IB is the way to go, as long as student can handle it as it is the most rigorous.

[Anonymous]

Top 20 globally for IB. God bless the current US of A.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And RM et al says IB is the way to go, as long as student can handle it as it is the most rigorous.

That's if they sport the high level IB courses. It is clear that not all of MCPS's IB-offering schools do so, claiming there isn't enough "pull" from the community, leaving higher-capability students there at a loss.

[Anonymous]

There are 8 HS out of 26 that offer IB program. Obviously fewer students will go through IB.
AP and DE (dual enrollment) for the majority rest of the students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:APs are a scam. How does that sound to you?

What specifically is a scam about AP? Don’t think I’ve seen College Board claiming 58% of AP Capstone Diploma students get into Berkeley.

Name dropping and fake statistics is usually a give away that the program is not good.

[Anonymous]

Everyone is going APs. AP classes are ubiquitous across the good ole US of A.