Simone Biles

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know why Andrade’s score was so low? She didn’t have any big mistakes and still finished in 4th. What was her qualifying score? Did she skip out on a difficult element?
(Overseas so I didn’t see the prelims, just last night’s event finals.)

Andrade dropped elements and didn't connect skills together so that dropped her start valued down a bit.

[Anonymous]

Look, I know a lot of you guys are for your fans but definitely watch some more gymnastics meets. Beam finals are just kind of crazy, And folks just really got inside their heads. I was really gobsmack to see Simone fall on her beam series. I don't think I've ever seen her do that. I figured it was going to be the side aerial. I was going to give her trouble not her series.

[Anonymous]

Surprised no one has mentioned the whole "salute controversy" since this is after all a Simone Biles thread.

Biles got a penalty for "failing to salute" the judge at the end of her routine. It was a .3 deduction but due to her fall would not have impacted the outcome of the event since Biles wound up scoring .9 below the bronze medalist. It would not even change Biles' finish order. However a lot of people including a lot of other gymnasts have called the penalty BS because Biles *did* salute at the end of her routine -- it was just deemed insufficient. Which does seem incredibly petty.

That was also why Biles held her salute at the end of her floor routine for a weirdly long period of time (she held her arms up all the way until she got to the stairs).

This is all interesting to me because the scoring of both events was sort of curious. Some of the scores (including I believe both of Biles' scores) took absolutely forever to come out which usually indicates that there was too much of a discrepancy between individual judge's scores and it needs to be reconciled. Then there was the scoring issues on floor with the inquiries. Not just the successful inquiry that wound up boosting Jordan Chiles difficulty rating high enough to get her the bronze (which for the record I think was merited -- they had not given her credit for a tour jete full and watching it in her routine she absolutely nailed it) but also an inquiry for Sabrina Maneca-Voineau. M-V's inquiry was not successful and I still don't know exactly what it was for but I did think her difficulty score was low for her routine and I don't know what her .1 penalty was for.

So anyway -- the judging was not straightforward for today's events and probably contributed to what felt like weirdness with the results even though I think in the end the best routines were properly rewarded.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Look, I know a lot of you guys are for your fans but definitely watch some more gymnastics meets. Beam finals are just kind of crazy, And folks just really got inside their heads. I was really gobsmack to see Simone fall on her beam series. I don't think I've ever seen her do that. I figured it was going to be the side aerial. I was going to give her trouble not her series.

+1 this is just how beam is. It's why many gymnasts really hate it even when they consistently do well on it -- it is not a fun apparatus. It's something you endure and hope not to screw up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Surprised no one has mentioned the whole "salute controversy" since this is after all a Simone Biles thread.

Biles got a penalty for "failing to salute" the judge at the end of her routine. It was a .3 deduction but due to her fall would not have impacted the outcome of the event since Biles wound up scoring .9 below the bronze medalist. It would not even change Biles' finish order. However a lot of people including a lot of other gymnasts have called the penalty BS because Biles *did* salute at the end of her routine -- it was just deemed insufficient. Which does seem incredibly petty.

That was also why Biles held her salute at the end of her floor routine for a weirdly long period of time (she held her arms up all the way until she got to the stairs).

This is all interesting to me because the scoring of both events was sort of curious. Some of the scores (including I believe both of Biles' scores) took absolutely forever to come out which usually indicates that there was too much of a discrepancy between individual judge's scores and it needs to be reconciled. Then there was the scoring issues on floor with the inquiries. Not just the successful inquiry that wound up boosting Jordan Chiles difficulty rating high enough to get her the bronze (which for the record I think was merited -- they had not given her credit for a tour jete full and watching it in her routine she absolutely nailed it) but also an inquiry for Sabrina Maneca-Voineau. M-V's inquiry was not successful and I still don't know exactly what it was for but I did think her difficulty score was low for her routine and I don't know what her .1 penalty was for.

So anyway -- the judging was not straightforward for today's events and probably contributed to what felt like weirdness with the results even though I think in the end the best routines were properly rewarded.

Oh did the coach do the inquiry for the one who got a penalty but the commentators said she didn't actually step out since her heel never touched down outside the line?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Surprised no one has mentioned the whole "salute controversy" since this is after all a Simone Biles thread.

Biles got a penalty for "failing to salute" the judge at the end of her routine. It was a .3 deduction but due to her fall would not have impacted the outcome of the event since Biles wound up scoring .9 below the bronze medalist. It would not even change Biles' finish order. However a lot of people including a lot of other gymnasts have called the penalty BS because Biles *did* salute at the end of her routine -- it was just deemed insufficient. Which does seem incredibly petty.

That was also why Biles held her salute at the end of her floor routine for a weirdly long period of time (she held her arms up all the way until she got to the stairs).

This is all interesting to me because the scoring of both events was sort of curious. Some of the scores (including I believe both of Biles' scores) took absolutely forever to come out which usually indicates that there was too much of a discrepancy between individual judge's scores and it needs to be reconciled. Then there was the scoring issues on floor with the inquiries. Not just the successful inquiry that wound up boosting Jordan Chiles difficulty rating high enough to get her the bronze (which for the record I think was merited -- they had not given her credit for a tour jete full and watching it in her routine she absolutely nailed it) but also an inquiry for Sabrina Maneca-Voineau. M-V's inquiry was not successful and I still don't know exactly what it was for but I did think her difficulty score was low for her routine and I don't know what her .1 penalty was for.

So anyway -- the judging was not straightforward for today's events and probably contributed to what felt like weirdness with the results even though I think in the end the best routines were properly rewarded.

Oh did the coach do the inquiry for the one who got a penalty but the commentators said she didn't actually step out since her heel never touched down outside the line?

I am not sure but that does make sense because the slow motion replay definitely seemed to show that her heel never goes over the line. But I also thought her D score seemed low given the overall difficulty of her routine -- it was .3 lower than what she was given in the qualifiers even though I don't think she took out any elements. Her score was very close to a bronze medal even after Jordan's score got increased so it was very consequential.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Surprised no one has mentioned the whole "salute controversy" since this is after all a Simone Biles thread.

Biles got a penalty for "failing to salute" the judge at the end of her routine. It was a .3 deduction but due to her fall would not have impacted the outcome of the event since Biles wound up scoring .9 below the bronze medalist. It would not even change Biles' finish order. However a lot of people including a lot of other gymnasts have called the penalty BS because Biles *did* salute at the end of her routine -- it was just deemed insufficient. Which does seem incredibly petty.

That was also why Biles held her salute at the end of her floor routine for a weirdly long period of time (she held her arms up all the way until she got to the stairs).

This is all interesting to me because the scoring of both events was sort of curious. Some of the scores (including I believe both of Biles' scores) took absolutely forever to come out which usually indicates that there was too much of a discrepancy between individual judge's scores and it needs to be reconciled. Then there was the scoring issues on floor with the inquiries. Not just the successful inquiry that wound up boosting Jordan Chiles difficulty rating high enough to get her the bronze (which for the record I think was merited -- they had not given her credit for a tour jete full and watching it in her routine she absolutely nailed it) but also an inquiry for Sabrina Maneca-Voineau. M-V's inquiry was not successful and I still don't know exactly what it was for but I did think her difficulty score was low for her routine and I don't know what her .1 penalty was for.

So anyway -- the judging was not straightforward for today's events and probably contributed to what felt like weirdness with the results even though I think in the end the best routines were properly rewarded.

Oh did the coach do the inquiry for the one who got a penalty but the commentators said she didn't actually step out since her heel never touched down outside the line?

I am not sure but that does make sense because the slow motion replay definitely seemed to show that her heel never goes over the line. But I also thought her D score seemed low given the overall difficulty of her routine -- it was .3 lower than what she was given in the qualifiers even though I don't think she took out any elements. Her score was very close to a bronze medal even after Jordan's score got increased so it was very consequential.

I thought the replay stopped too soon. It didn’t show when/where her heel came down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Surprised no one has mentioned the whole "salute controversy" since this is after all a Simone Biles thread.

Biles got a penalty for "failing to salute" the judge at the end of her routine. It was a .3 deduction but due to her fall would not have impacted the outcome of the event since Biles wound up scoring .9 below the bronze medalist. It would not even change Biles' finish order. However a lot of people including a lot of other gymnasts have called the penalty BS because Biles *did* salute at the end of her routine -- it was just deemed insufficient. Which does seem incredibly petty.

That was also why Biles held her salute at the end of her floor routine for a weirdly long period of time (she held her arms up all the way until she got to the stairs).

This is all interesting to me because the scoring of both events was sort of curious. Some of the scores (including I believe both of Biles' scores) took absolutely forever to come out which usually indicates that there was too much of a discrepancy between individual judge's scores and it needs to be reconciled. Then there was the scoring issues on floor with the inquiries. Not just the successful inquiry that wound up boosting Jordan Chiles difficulty rating high enough to get her the bronze (which for the record I think was merited -- they had not given her credit for a tour jete full and watching it in her routine she absolutely nailed it) but also an inquiry for Sabrina Maneca-Voineau. M-V's inquiry was not successful and I still don't know exactly what it was for but I did think her difficulty score was low for her routine and I don't know what her .1 penalty was for.

So anyway -- the judging was not straightforward for today's events and probably contributed to what felt like weirdness with the results even though I think in the end the best routines were properly rewarded.

Simone came off as petty to me repeatedly throughout the Olympics, the salute controversy, captions, asking people to not ask about her plans afterwards.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Look, I know a lot of you guys are for your fans but definitely watch some more gymnastics meets. Beam finals are just kind of crazy, And folks just really got inside their heads. I was really gobsmack to see Simone fall on her beam series. I don't think I've ever seen her do that. I figured it was going to be the side aerial. I was going to give her trouble not her series.

She was clearly shocked too.

[Anonymous]

I thought Simone and Chiles bowing to Andrade on the podium was bizarre and obnoxious. More ways to put the spotlight on them for being so “humble”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I thought Simone and Chiles bowing to Andrade on the podium was bizarre and obnoxious. More ways to put the spotlight on them for being so “humble”

Stop overthinking everything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought Simone and Chiles bowing to Andrade on the podium was bizarre and obnoxious. More ways to put the spotlight on them for being so “humble”

Stop overthinking everything.

It’s headline Olympic news. Instead of the headline celebrating Andrade winning. The headline is celebrating the bow. Stupid. Just let the winning athlete have her moment and don’t do anything attention seeking. Was that too hard?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Surprised no one has mentioned the whole "salute controversy" since this is after all a Simone Biles thread.

Biles got a penalty for "failing to salute" the judge at the end of her routine. It was a .3 deduction but due to her fall would not have impacted the outcome of the event since Biles wound up scoring .9 below the bronze medalist. It would not even change Biles' finish order. However a lot of people including a lot of other gymnasts have called the penalty BS because Biles *did* salute at the end of her routine -- it was just deemed insufficient. Which does seem incredibly petty.

That was also why Biles held her salute at the end of her floor routine for a weirdly long period of time (she held her arms up all the way until she got to the stairs).

This is all interesting to me because the scoring of both events was sort of curious. Some of the scores (including I believe both of Biles' scores) took absolutely forever to come out which usually indicates that there was too much of a discrepancy between individual judge's scores and it needs to be reconciled. Then there was the scoring issues on floor with the inquiries. Not just the successful inquiry that wound up boosting Jordan Chiles difficulty rating high enough to get her the bronze (which for the record I think was merited -- they had not given her credit for a tour jete full and watching it in her routine she absolutely nailed it) but also an inquiry for Sabrina Maneca-Voineau. M-V's inquiry was not successful and I still don't know exactly what it was for but I did think her difficulty score was low for her routine and I don't know what her .1 penalty was for.

So anyway -- the judging was not straightforward for today's events and probably contributed to what felt like weirdness with the results even though I think in the end the best routines were properly rewarded.

Simone came off as petty to me repeatedly throughout the Olympics, the salute controversy, captions, asking people to not ask about her plans afterwards.

I thought she was refreshingly real. It showed that we are thankfully long gone from the “little girls in pretty boxes” era. She’s a mature woman who is allowed to speak her mind, she led her team, she cheered for teammates and her competitors from other countries, and she played her role in the spotlight - a role she was put in by the media and social media - with grace and humor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought Simone and Chiles bowing to Andrade on the podium was bizarre and obnoxious. More ways to put the spotlight on them for being so “humble”

Stop overthinking everything.

It’s headline Olympic news. Instead of the headline celebrating Andrade winning. The headline is celebrating the bow. Stupid. Just let the winning athlete have her moment and don’t do anything attention seeking. Was that too hard?

They were just trying to be supportive! Don't read so much into things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I thought Simone and Chiles bowing to Andrade on the podium was bizarre and obnoxious. More ways to put the spotlight on them for being so “humble”

Seek help