As a Democrat, it all feels hopeless.

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I'm not despairing. Trump might win, yes - and if/when he does, it will be a shit show, and it will be followed by the final death of the GOP.

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Anonymous wrote:There will be a massive disconnect with politicians and their voters in 20 years. When the 60+ crowd are gone, the dems will be panicking as to how to run more progressive campaigns rather than resenting anyone whose marginally more left than a conservative 10 years ago. The republicans will be great though.

What?
The Dems will adjust. They believe in civil rights, rule of law, making the environment sustainable, women's rights, abortion rights.

The R's used to believe in fiscally conservative policies, state's rights, and ending abortion.

Now, their main unifying policy (abortion) is off the list, and they no longer believe in state's rights or fiscally conservative policies.

Neither policy has a clear vision for foreign policy.

In 20 years, the D's have something to build on / build up / build towards.

The R's have dismantled the entire government, made the tax structure unsustainable, and totally eliminated our leadership position in foreign policy. They've made us an unreliable partner and even have brought into question whether we have or support rule of law.

In what way are the R's in a better position to have an agenda for the future?

I don’t believe that the Democrats believe in women’s rights any more.

Why?

And the R's who took away the right to choose do? Really?

The Rs don’t believe in women’s rights either. But the Democrats have gone all in on destroying women’s rights as well. They have prioritized men at every turn.

Pick your poison, though. One of these parties leads towards continued free and fair elections, courts, and civil rights.
One wants to end all of those American ideals.

I don’t think the Democrats are the party of civil rights any more. I certainly don’t believe your hysteria.

Candidly I just don’t believe the Democrats on anything at this point. They lied about Biden’s health, as we can all see.

Trump and the GOP lie as well. But I never trusted them. Now I distrust the Democrats the same way I distrust the Republicans.

Do you believe that Donald Trump tried to overthrow the election?

Up until this debate, yes. But it’s now clear that the mainstream media has been shockingly deceptive in their reporting and now I am questioning everything. I don’t know what to think or who to trust as this point.

But you saw it on TV. It's clear that Biden is an 81 year old who has good days and bad days. I wish that there was another candidate running. But there's not. There's no way I would vote for someone who tried to overthrow the US government. I just wouldn't. I am voting for him because I like what Biden is actually doing. Not how he talks. And I'm also voting against Trump because he hates the American people and doesn't believe that their votes matter. Either one of those would be good enough reason for me to make my voice heard through voting.

What I saw on TV was shocking. What I realized immediately is that the Democratic Party and the mainstream media have been actively suppressing and lying about the state of Biden and who is actually running our country. I’ve been lied to, as badly as the GOP has. And now I do not trust anything that I was told previously.

Was Trump’s voice saying “fake news….fake news….” in your ear

Honestly? Yes. I never believed Trump before, and I still don’t, not really. But all of a sudden I wonder if he was right about the media. Certainly the media has been obviously lying about Biden’s state. Now I wonder what else they’ve lied about.

Uh huh. Right. So what you saw with your own eyes on January 6, And Trump's tweets and interviews where he said the election was stolen, were altered by the media?

Can you point out where media lied about Biden's state? What is that state exactly? I've seen him speak every week. And how did media lie about it? Did they write puff pieces about his vigor we all missed?



Also, you guys are so transparent with these posts.

And you are so tiresome with this constant gaslighting.

It took three seconds to find an article from a few days before the debate that talks about how the clips that the right-wing media was showing about Biden’s health (accurately, as it turns out) were just cheap fakes and manipulated.

Reading this article post-debate is truly shocking. The level of overt deception is so demoralizing.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/21/us/politics/biden-age-videos.html

One does not exclude the other. The videos were manipulated.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not despairing. Trump might win, yes - and if/when he does, it will be a shit show, and it will be followed by the final death of the GOP.

Do I get a cookie?

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Anonymous wrote:Dictators hate gun rights more than anything

Trump is by definition not a dictator.

Aw, it's so cute that you think a dictator will let you know before you put him in office that he will take your guns away. Someone doesn't study history tsk tsk

Girl, he was already president! We know he isn't a dictator. Stop saying that.

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Riiight. That roughing of protesters for him to have his Bible photo op was just in good fun!

As was his denial of free and fair elections and siccing the mob to try and stop certificaiton.

Again, you are woefully unaware of how a dictatorship is born and what the signs are. Girl.

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Anonymous wrote:Dictators hate gun rights more than anything

Trump is by definition not a dictator.

said wannabe dictator. Emulates dictators in other countries. What more do you need to know?

Not only does he emulate dictators, he's implying that he has already won the next election! Maybe he knows something the rest of us don't...

Trump Suggests He’s Already Won the Election
New York Times: “At times, Mr. Trump — who during the debate agreed to accept the results of the 2024 election only if he found them to be fair — seemed to act as if the presidential race were wrapped up. He repeatedly referred to a ‘transition period,’ a seeming reference to the period after the election but that he extended to include the months leading up to the election.” Said Trump: “We have a five-month transition period, and I want our enemies to know, don’t play around with us.”

He has not won the election and if we are smart he won't win the election.

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Anonymous wrote:You can't exclude how youth feels about the economy. Anyone coming of age now is hurting. Social media is filled with new adults who say they can't afford kids or rent. Trump would be change and he's taking some votes from Biden.

Do you know how much I earned straight out of college? Less that what the minimum wage is now. Young folks are okay. They are poor now, and they will be less poor later.

If you look at wages, they are up.

A bag of fries costs $6 at Target

Eat real food and it isn’t as expensive. Buy potatoes. Fries are bad for you and should cost more so we can reduce obesity and T2 diabetes.

A tiny basket of potatoes at my farmers market is $6. There are 10 little potatoes in it.

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Anonymous wrote:There will be a massive disconnect with politicians and their voters in 20 years. When the 60+ crowd are gone, the dems will be panicking as to how to run more progressive campaigns rather than resenting anyone whose marginally more left than a conservative 10 years ago. The republicans will be great though.

What?
The Dems will adjust. They believe in civil rights, rule of law, making the environment sustainable, women's rights, abortion rights.

The R's used to believe in fiscally conservative policies, state's rights, and ending abortion.

Now, their main unifying policy (abortion) is off the list, and they no longer believe in state's rights or fiscally conservative policies.

Neither policy has a clear vision for foreign policy.

In 20 years, the D's have something to build on / build up / build towards.

The R's have dismantled the entire government, made the tax structure unsustainable, and totally eliminated our leadership position in foreign policy. They've made us an unreliable partner and even have brought into question whether we have or support rule of law.

In what way are the R's in a better position to have an agenda for the future?

I don’t believe that the Democrats believe in women’s rights any more.

Why?

And the R's who took away the right to choose do? Really?

The Rs don’t believe in women’s rights either. But the Democrats have gone all in on destroying women’s rights as well. They have prioritized men at every turn.

Pick your poison, though. One of these parties leads towards continued free and fair elections, courts, and civil rights.
One wants to end all of those American ideals.

I don’t think the Democrats are the party of civil rights any more. I certainly don’t believe your hysteria.

Candidly I just don’t believe the Democrats on anything at this point. They lied about Biden’s health, as we can all see.

Trump and the GOP lie as well. But I never trusted them. Now I distrust the Democrats the same way I distrust the Republicans.

Do you believe that Donald Trump tried to overthrow the election?

Up until this debate, yes. But it’s now clear that the mainstream media has been shockingly deceptive in their reporting and now I am questioning everything. I don’t know what to think or who to trust as this point.

But you saw it on TV. It's clear that Biden is an 81 year old who has good days and bad days. I wish that there was another candidate running. But there's not. There's no way I would vote for someone who tried to overthrow the US government. I just wouldn't. I am voting for him because I like what Biden is actually doing. Not how he talks. And I'm also voting against Trump because he hates the American people and doesn't believe that their votes matter. Either one of those would be good enough reason for me to make my voice heard through voting.

What I saw on TV was shocking. What I realized immediately is that the Democratic Party and the mainstream media have been actively suppressing and lying about the state of Biden and who is actually running our country. I’ve been lied to, as badly as the GOP has. And now I do not trust anything that I was told previously.

Was Trump’s voice saying “fake news….fake news….” in your ear

Honestly? Yes. I never believed Trump before, and I still don’t, not really. But all of a sudden I wonder if he was right about the media. Certainly the media has been obviously lying about Biden’s state. Now I wonder what else they’ve lied about.

Uh huh. Right. So what you saw with your own eyes on January 6, And Trump's tweets and interviews where he said the election was stolen, were altered by the media?

Can you point out where media lied about Biden's state? What is that state exactly? I've seen him speak every week. And how did media lie about it? Did they write puff pieces about his vigor we all missed?



Also, you guys are so transparent with these posts.

And you are so tiresome with this constant gaslighting.

It took three seconds to find an article from a few days before the debate that talks about how the clips that the right-wing media was showing about Biden’s health (accurately, as it turns out) were just cheap fakes and manipulated.

Reading this article post-debate is truly shocking. The level of overt deception is so demoralizing.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/21/us/politics/biden-age-videos.html

One does not exclude the other. The videos were manipulated.

No, actually, they weren’t. The clips ended at various points but that’s not “manipulated,” that’s just picking an endpoint. It is obvious at this point that the right-wing media was truthful about this while outlets like the NYT were lying.

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Anonymous wrote:There will be a massive disconnect with politicians and their voters in 20 years. When the 60+ crowd are gone, the dems will be panicking as to how to run more progressive campaigns rather than resenting anyone whose marginally more left than a conservative 10 years ago. The republicans will be great though.

What?
The Dems will adjust. They believe in civil rights, rule of law, making the environment sustainable, women's rights, abortion rights.

The R's used to believe in fiscally conservative policies, state's rights, and ending abortion.

Now, their main unifying policy (abortion) is off the list, and they no longer believe in state's rights or fiscally conservative policies.

Neither policy has a clear vision for foreign policy.

In 20 years, the D's have something to build on / build up / build towards.

The R's have dismantled the entire government, made the tax structure unsustainable, and totally eliminated our leadership position in foreign policy. They've made us an unreliable partner and even have brought into question whether we have or support rule of law.

In what way are the R's in a better position to have an agenda for the future?

I don’t believe that the Democrats believe in women’s rights any more.

Why?

And the R's who took away the right to choose do? Really?

The Rs don’t believe in women’s rights either. But the Democrats have gone all in on destroying women’s rights as well. They have prioritized men at every turn.

Pick your poison, though. One of these parties leads towards continued free and fair elections, courts, and civil rights.
One wants to end all of those American ideals.

I don’t think the Democrats are the party of civil rights any more. I certainly don’t believe your hysteria.

Candidly I just don’t believe the Democrats on anything at this point. They lied about Biden’s health, as we can all see.

Trump and the GOP lie as well. But I never trusted them. Now I distrust the Democrats the same way I distrust the Republicans.

Do you believe that Donald Trump tried to overthrow the election?

Up until this debate, yes. But it’s now clear that the mainstream media has been shockingly deceptive in their reporting and now I am questioning everything. I don’t know what to think or who to trust as this point.

But you saw it on TV. It's clear that Biden is an 81 year old who has good days and bad days. I wish that there was another candidate running. But there's not. There's no way I would vote for someone who tried to overthrow the US government. I just wouldn't. I am voting for him because I like what Biden is actually doing. Not how he talks. And I'm also voting against Trump because he hates the American people and doesn't believe that their votes matter. Either one of those would be good enough reason for me to make my voice heard through voting.

What I saw on TV was shocking. What I realized immediately is that the Democratic Party and the mainstream media have been actively suppressing and lying about the state of Biden and who is actually running our country. I’ve been lied to, as badly as the GOP has. And now I do not trust anything that I was told previously.

Was Trump’s voice saying “fake news….fake news….” in your ear

Honestly? Yes. I never believed Trump before, and I still don’t, not really. But all of a sudden I wonder if he was right about the media. Certainly the media has been obviously lying about Biden’s state. Now I wonder what else they’ve lied about.

Uh huh. Right. So what you saw with your own eyes on January 6, And Trump's tweets and interviews where he said the election was stolen, were altered by the media?

Can you point out where media lied about Biden's state? What is that state exactly? I've seen him speak every week. And how did media lie about it? Did they write puff pieces about his vigor we all missed?



Also, you guys are so transparent with these posts.

And you are so tiresome with this constant gaslighting.

It took three seconds to find an article from a few days before the debate that talks about how the clips that the right-wing media was showing about Biden’s health (accurately, as it turns out) were just cheap fakes and manipulated.

Reading this article post-debate is truly shocking. The level of overt deception is so demoralizing.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/21/us/politics/biden-age-videos.html

One does not exclude the other. The videos were manipulated.

No, actually, they weren’t. The clips ended at various points but that’s not “manipulated,” that’s just picking an endpoint. It is obvious at this point that the right-wing media was truthful about this while outlets like the NYT were lying.

Interesting that you made all this research since Thursday night. Totally plausible. And yes, they were manipulated.

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Anonymous wrote:There will be a massive disconnect with politicians and their voters in 20 years. When the 60+ crowd are gone, the dems will be panicking as to how to run more progressive campaigns rather than resenting anyone whose marginally more left than a conservative 10 years ago. The republicans will be great though.

What?
The Dems will adjust. They believe in civil rights, rule of law, making the environment sustainable, women's rights, abortion rights.

The R's used to believe in fiscally conservative policies, state's rights, and ending abortion.

Now, their main unifying policy (abortion) is off the list, and they no longer believe in state's rights or fiscally conservative policies.

Neither policy has a clear vision for foreign policy.

In 20 years, the D's have something to build on / build up / build towards.

The R's have dismantled the entire government, made the tax structure unsustainable, and totally eliminated our leadership position in foreign policy. They've made us an unreliable partner and even have brought into question whether we have or support rule of law.

In what way are the R's in a better position to have an agenda for the future?

I don’t believe that the Democrats believe in women’s rights any more.

Why?

And the R's who took away the right to choose do? Really?

The Rs don’t believe in women’s rights either. But the Democrats have gone all in on destroying women’s rights as well. They have prioritized men at every turn.

Pick your poison, though. One of these parties leads towards continued free and fair elections, courts, and civil rights.
One wants to end all of those American ideals.

I don’t think the Democrats are the party of civil rights any more. I certainly don’t believe your hysteria.

Candidly I just don’t believe the Democrats on anything at this point. They lied about Biden’s health, as we can all see.

Trump and the GOP lie as well. But I never trusted them. Now I distrust the Democrats the same way I distrust the Republicans.

Do you believe that Donald Trump tried to overthrow the election?

Up until this debate, yes. But it’s now clear that the mainstream media has been shockingly deceptive in their reporting and now I am questioning everything. I don’t know what to think or who to trust as this point.

But you saw it on TV. It's clear that Biden is an 81 year old who has good days and bad days. I wish that there was another candidate running. But there's not. There's no way I would vote for someone who tried to overthrow the US government. I just wouldn't. I am voting for him because I like what Biden is actually doing. Not how he talks. And I'm also voting against Trump because he hates the American people and doesn't believe that their votes matter. Either one of those would be good enough reason for me to make my voice heard through voting.

What I saw on TV was shocking. What I realized immediately is that the Democratic Party and the mainstream media have been actively suppressing and lying about the state of Biden and who is actually running our country. I’ve been lied to, as badly as the GOP has. And now I do not trust anything that I was told previously.

Was Trump’s voice saying “fake news….fake news….” in your ear

Honestly? Yes. I never believed Trump before, and I still don’t, not really. But all of a sudden I wonder if he was right about the media. Certainly the media has been obviously lying about Biden’s state. Now I wonder what else they’ve lied about.

Uh huh. Right. So what you saw with your own eyes on January 6, And Trump's tweets and interviews where he said the election was stolen, were altered by the media?

Can you point out where media lied about Biden's state? What is that state exactly? I've seen him speak every week. And how did media lie about it? Did they write puff pieces about his vigor we all missed?



Also, you guys are so transparent with these posts.

And you are so tiresome with this constant gaslighting.

It took three seconds to find an article from a few days before the debate that talks about how the clips that the right-wing media was showing about Biden’s health (accurately, as it turns out) were just cheap fakes and manipulated.

Reading this article post-debate is truly shocking. The level of overt deception is so demoralizing.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/21/us/politics/biden-age-videos.html

One does not exclude the other. The videos were manipulated.

No, actually, they weren’t. The clips ended at various points but that’s not “manipulated,” that’s just picking an endpoint. It is obvious at this point that the right-wing media was truthful about this while outlets like the NYT were lying.

my cousin is an anchor on a right wing media outlet and he is paid to lie. Total disgrace.

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Anonymous wrote:You can't exclude how youth feels about the economy. Anyone coming of age now is hurting. Social media is filled with new adults who say they can't afford kids or rent. Trump would be change and he's taking some votes from Biden.

Do you know how much I earned straight out of college? Less that what the minimum wage is now. Young folks are okay. They are poor now, and they will be less poor later.

If you look at wages, they are up.

A bag of fries costs $6 at Target

And?

CNN moderator lied during debate saying that grocery basket was $100 4 years ago and $120 now. It is like $400 now for the same items that were $100 four years ago.

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Anonymous wrote:You can't exclude how youth feels about the economy. Anyone coming of age now is hurting. Social media is filled with new adults who say they can't afford kids or rent. Trump would be change and he's taking some votes from Biden.

Do you know how much I earned straight out of college? Less that what the minimum wage is now. Young folks are okay. They are poor now, and they will be less poor later.

If you look at wages, they are up.

A bag of fries costs $6 at Target

And?

CNN moderator lied during debate saying that grocery basket was $100 4 years ago and $120 now. It is like $400 now for the same items that were $100 four years ago.

Then you are a god awful shopper.

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Anonymous wrote:There will be a massive disconnect with politicians and their voters in 20 years. When the 60+ crowd are gone, the dems will be panicking as to how to run more progressive campaigns rather than resenting anyone whose marginally more left than a conservative 10 years ago. The republicans will be great though.

What?
The Dems will adjust. They believe in civil rights, rule of law, making the environment sustainable, women's rights, abortion rights.

The R's used to believe in fiscally conservative policies, state's rights, and ending abortion.

Now, their main unifying policy (abortion) is off the list, and they no longer believe in state's rights or fiscally conservative policies.

Neither policy has a clear vision for foreign policy.

In 20 years, the D's have something to build on / build up / build towards.

The R's have dismantled the entire government, made the tax structure unsustainable, and totally eliminated our leadership position in foreign policy. They've made us an unreliable partner and even have brought into question whether we have or support rule of law.

In what way are the R's in a better position to have an agenda for the future?

I don’t believe that the Democrats believe in women’s rights any more.

Why?

And the R's who took away the right to choose do? Really?

The Rs don’t believe in women’s rights either. But the Democrats have gone all in on destroying women’s rights as well. They have prioritized men at every turn.

Pick your poison, though. One of these parties leads towards continued free and fair elections, courts, and civil rights.
One wants to end all of those American ideals.

I don’t think the Democrats are the party of civil rights any more. I certainly don’t believe your hysteria.

Candidly I just don’t believe the Democrats on anything at this point. They lied about Biden’s health, as we can all see.

Trump and the GOP lie as well. But I never trusted them. Now I distrust the Democrats the same way I distrust the Republicans.

Do you believe that Donald Trump tried to overthrow the election?

Up until this debate, yes. But it’s now clear that the mainstream media has been shockingly deceptive in their reporting and now I am questioning everything. I don’t know what to think or who to trust as this point.

But you saw it on TV. It's clear that Biden is an 81 year old who has good days and bad days. I wish that there was another candidate running. But there's not. There's no way I would vote for someone who tried to overthrow the US government. I just wouldn't. I am voting for him because I like what Biden is actually doing. Not how he talks. And I'm also voting against Trump because he hates the American people and doesn't believe that their votes matter. Either one of those would be good enough reason for me to make my voice heard through voting.

What I saw on TV was shocking. What I realized immediately is that the Democratic Party and the mainstream media have been actively suppressing and lying about the state of Biden and who is actually running our country. I’ve been lied to, as badly as the GOP has. And now I do not trust anything that I was told previously.

Was Trump’s voice saying “fake news….fake news….” in your ear

Honestly? Yes. I never believed Trump before, and I still don’t, not really. But all of a sudden I wonder if he was right about the media. Certainly the media has been obviously lying about Biden’s state. Now I wonder what else they’ve lied about.

Uh huh. Right. So what you saw with your own eyes on January 6, And Trump's tweets and interviews where he said the election was stolen, were altered by the media?

Can you point out where media lied about Biden's state? What is that state exactly? I've seen him speak every week. And how did media lie about it? Did they write puff pieces about his vigor we all missed?



Also, you guys are so transparent with these posts.

And you are so tiresome with this constant gaslighting.

It took three seconds to find an article from a few days before the debate that talks about how the clips that the right-wing media was showing about Biden’s health (accurately, as it turns out) were just cheap fakes and manipulated.

Reading this article post-debate is truly shocking. The level of overt deception is so demoralizing.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/21/us/politics/biden-age-videos.html

One does not exclude the other. The videos were manipulated.

No, actually, they weren’t. The clips ended at various points but that’s not “manipulated,” that’s just picking an endpoint. It is obvious at this point that the right-wing media was truthful about this while outlets like the NYT were lying.

Interesting that you made all this research since Thursday night. Totally plausible. And yes, they were manipulated.

You can literally see the clips in question. You are clearly lying, and the country sees your gaslighting.

That article from the NYT is laughable now. Well, it would be laughable if it wasn’t so incredibly grim in what it betrays about media truth.

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Anonymous wrote:This is what happens when you 'fundamentally transform" while ignoring the constitution. Obama has done more to hurt this country over the past 15 years and America is finally fighting back. Biden is a result of this 'Hope and Change'.

Better to have "Hope and Change" than "American Carnage."

The GOP and the media they own are baying for blood.

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What?
The Dems will adjust. They believe in civil rights, rule of law, making the environment sustainable, women's rights, abortion rights.

The R's used to believe in fiscally conservative policies, state's rights, and ending abortion.

Now, their main unifying policy (abortion) is off the list, and they no longer believe in state's rights or fiscally conservative policies.

Neither policy has a clear vision for foreign policy.

In 20 years, the D's have something to build on / build up / build towards.

The R's have dismantled the entire government, made the tax structure unsustainable, and totally eliminated our leadership position in foreign policy. They've made us an unreliable partner and even have brought into question whether we have or support rule of law.

In what way are the R's in a better position to have an agenda for the future?

I don’t believe that the Democrats believe in women’s rights any more.

Why?

And the R's who took away the right to choose do? Really?

The Rs don’t believe in women’s rights either. But the Democrats have gone all in on destroying women’s rights as well. They have prioritized men at every turn.

Pick your poison, though. One of these parties leads towards continued free and fair elections, courts, and civil rights.
One wants to end all of those American ideals.

I don’t think the Democrats are the party of civil rights any more. I certainly don’t believe your hysteria.

Candidly I just don’t believe the Democrats on anything at this point. They lied about Biden’s health, as we can all see.

Trump and the GOP lie as well. But I never trusted them. Now I distrust the Democrats the same way I distrust the Republicans.

Do you believe that Donald Trump tried to overthrow the election?

Up until this debate, yes. But it’s now clear that the mainstream media has been shockingly deceptive in their reporting and now I am questioning everything. I don’t know what to think or who to trust as this point.

But you saw it on TV. It's clear that Biden is an 81 year old who has good days and bad days. I wish that there was another candidate running. But there's not. There's no way I would vote for someone who tried to overthrow the US government. I just wouldn't. I am voting for him because I like what Biden is actually doing. Not how he talks. And I'm also voting against Trump because he hates the American people and doesn't believe that their votes matter. Either one of those would be good enough reason for me to make my voice heard through voting.

What I saw on TV was shocking. What I realized immediately is that the Democratic Party and the mainstream media have been actively suppressing and lying about the state of Biden and who is actually running our country. I’ve been lied to, as badly as the GOP has. And now I do not trust anything that I was told previously.

Was Trump’s voice saying “fake news….fake news….” in your ear

Honestly? Yes. I never believed Trump before, and I still don’t, not really. But all of a sudden I wonder if he was right about the media. Certainly the media has been obviously lying about Biden’s state. Now I wonder what else they’ve lied about.

Uh huh. Right. So what you saw with your own eyes on January 6, And Trump's tweets and interviews where he said the election was stolen, were altered by the media?

Can you point out where media lied about Biden's state? What is that state exactly? I've seen him speak every week. And how did media lie about it? Did they write puff pieces about his vigor we all missed?



Also, you guys are so transparent with these posts.

And you are so tiresome with this constant gaslighting.

It took three seconds to find an article from a few days before the debate that talks about how the clips that the right-wing media was showing about Biden’s health (accurately, as it turns out) were just cheap fakes and manipulated.

Reading this article post-debate is truly shocking. The level of overt deception is so demoralizing.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/21/us/politics/biden-age-videos.html

One does not exclude the other. The videos were manipulated.

No, actually, they weren’t. The clips ended at various points but that’s not “manipulated,” that’s just picking an endpoint. It is obvious at this point that the right-wing media was truthful about this while outlets like the NYT were lying.

Interesting that you made all this research since Thursday night. Totally plausible. And yes, they were manipulated.

You can literally see the clips in question. You are clearly lying, and the country sees your gaslighting.

That article from the NYT is laughable now. Well, it would be laughable if it wasn’t so incredibly grim in what it betrays about media truth.

There is a thread about that. Feel free to meander in there.

Also, look up the term manipulated

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Anonymous wrote:Dictators hate gun rights more than anything

Trump is by definition not a dictator.

Aw, it's so cute that you think a dictator will let you know before you put him in office that he will take your guns away. Someone doesn't study history tsk tsk

Girl, he was already president! We know he isn't a dictator. Stop saying that.

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Riiight. That roughing of protesters for him to have his Bible photo op was just in good fun!

As was his denial of free and fair elections and siccing the mob to try and stop certificaiton.

Again, you are woefully unaware of how a dictatorship is born and what the signs are. Girl.

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