anyone know about the "Virginia Valor Fathers Day Fiesta" or the "FPYC Fathers Day Tournament"

[Anonymous]

We had one epicly crappy year at Valor so am enjoying watching their epic fail. Feel free to post lots of details.

[Anonymous]

Are they embarassed that their tournament sucks so bad or do they not care how dumb they look b/c its just for scrubby poor rec kids?

[Anonymous]

Most all-star parents are clueless about tournaments -- so they probably think nothing bad about the situation.

[Anonymous]

Maybe parents of the little kids are clueless. Parents in the u11 and ups have been to a lot of all star tournaments, usually it is generally the same kids every season. Our all star coach said HYS had never had so many parents complaining as they had during the Valor thing last year.

[Anonymous]

One of the Loudoun teams did not win last year, mainly because they had trouble getting a roster together.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe parents of the little kids are clueless. Parents in the u11 and ups have been to a lot of all star tournaments, usually it is generally the same kids every season. Our all star coach said HYS had never had so many parents complaining as they had during the Valor thing last year.

You are 100% right, it is the same kids year after year in the all stars. I don’t understand why some parents think so highly of these tournaments. The coaches are even worse. Yelling and screaming from the sidelines as if it’s the World Cup. All Star is nothing more than afterthought once the travel season is over and travel players are done using the fields. And from the sounds of it Loudoun soccer is the only program fielding a decent soccer team in the crappy Valor Tournament. I would NOT accept an invite to waste my weekend and money for my DC.

[Anonymous]

Yeah, Herndon went back to the real FPYC tournament after a lot of complaints from parents about Valor's event. Rec parents aren't that clueless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe parents of the little kids are clueless. Parents in the u11 and ups have been to a lot of all star tournaments, usually it is generally the same kids every season. Our all star coach said HYS had never had so many parents complaining as they had during the Valor thing last year.

You are 100% right, it is the same kids year after year in the all stars. I don’t understand why some parents think so highly of these tournaments. The coaches are even worse. Yelling and screaming from the sidelines as if it’s the World Cup. All Star is nothing more than afterthought once the travel season is over and travel players are done using the fields. And from the sounds of it Loudoun soccer is the only program fielding a decent soccer team in the crappy Valor Tournament. I would NOT accept an invite to waste my weekend and money for my DC.

My HYS kids have always had a good experience with Herndon tournament and the FPYC tournament. Last spring Valor tournament was ratchedy but at least they listened to the coaches and parents feedback and quit it.

Sorry your kids didn't enjoy the experience. All Stars is usually a lot of fun for kids who want more competitive soccer without paying for travel (and for our org, U11 and up do not have a regular season tournament, so this is the only tournament the older players get to experience.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe parents of the little kids are clueless. Parents in the u11 and ups have been to a lot of all star tournaments, usually it is generally the same kids every season. Our all star coach said HYS had never had so many parents complaining as they had during the Valor thing last year.

You are 100% right, it is the same kids year after year in the all stars. I don’t understand why some parents think so highly of these tournaments. The coaches are even worse. Yelling and screaming from the sidelines as if it’s the World Cup. All Star is nothing more than afterthought once the travel season is over and travel players are done using the fields. And from the sounds of it Loudoun soccer is the only program fielding a decent soccer team in the crappy Valor Tournament. I would NOT accept an invite to waste my weekend and money for my DC.

My HYS kids have always had a good experience with Herndon tournament and the FPYC tournament. Last spring Valor tournament was ratchedy but at least they listened to the coaches and parents feedback and quit it.

Sorry your kids didn't enjoy the experience. All Stars is usually a lot of fun for kids who want more competitive soccer without paying for travel (and for our org, U11 and up do not have a regular season tournament, so this is the only tournament the older players get to experience.)

Agreed that Herndon and FPYC are better than Valor, but I disagree that Valor listened to anyone's feedback about anything... that is a bold statement that does not match with what is written on DCUM on many threads about Valor.

Second, your kid probably enjoys these tournaments because the coach picks your DC to go every season with his friends on the team. No other sport in rec (and definitely not travel) has this system of nepotism where coordinators pick their DC and friends to field an all star team. Just go to any travel tournament and you'll see soccer teams play the way it should be. Based on putting together a team to give them the highest probability to win, not the highest probability to hang out with friends.

[Anonymous]

Pp said *Herndon* listened to feedback and didn't go back to the Valor event.

If *Valor* had listened to feedback they wouldn't be trying again at a fail tournament.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pp said *Herndon* listened to feedback and didn't go back to the Valor event.

If *Valor* had listened to feedback they wouldn't be trying again at a fail tournament.

I think you need to reread that post. They said Valor listened to their feedback and quit doing the "ratchedy" things that Valor was doing (whatever that means).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:CYA doesn't fund Valor. Valor exists because the dudes in charge wanted to pay themselves a lot more and charge a lot more than "community travel soccer rates" and keep from sharing the profits with the larger CYA rec org, so they created a financially separate non profit. They happily use CYA's assets like field space and mailing lists for free though.

Maybe the CYA All Star coaches refused to coach if they returned to the same bad tournament.

Our CYA team is playing in the valor tournament. I don't think anyone is even aware there are two different all star tournaments.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also can anyone confirm that Puerto Rico is going back to the Sombrero Valor Tournament?

This team played in my son's age group (U12). Our team was crushed by them in the final game but it was no surprise to anyone as the PR kids were incredible and clearly a high level team that played together year round. It was honestly really sad. Whole families traveled all the way here from PR, they had rented big vans and they camped out at the fields all day (because where else would they go?). I am sure they were baffled by how bad the other teams were at this "elite" tournament. (Our all star teams practice together 2 or 3 times, kids show up and are still learning each other's names at the games!) These poor people must have spent a fortune on flights and hotels. Our coach said he complained to Valor about travel teams playing in a rec tournament but no one answered his questions.

All our SFL age teams play in FPYC, haven't heard if the younger teams will be stuck with Valor again. Not really sure why we were there in the first place.

PS- Can confirm (1) no free churros and (2) medals were absolutely FUGLY. We were laughing about how awful they were. "50 cent trinket from South of the Border" is spot on. Not sure if it's one guy in charge with really bad taste that no one wants to gainsay or a bunch of old guys with bad taste, but man. I would honestly be embarrassed to have that in my house. What were they thinking with this whole theme?

Your coach complained about travel teams being in a rec tournament!?!? Let me guess… you’re a CYA team? I’m sick of hearing about loser coaches that can’t handle a loss with sportsmanship in these all star tournaments. Get this through your head CYA … travel teams do not waste time in our rec all stars. Stop filing meaningless complaints because you’re sore that a better team beat you.

Yet they sort of do. When my daughter was with Herndon. The U-8 all star tournament had loudoun pre-travel teams these girls played together all year and showed up to play REC kids. It was not fun at all.

[Anonymous]

I'm planning on refereeing this year in the FPYC tournament. Don't yell at me if I make a mistake please. : )

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also can anyone confirm that Puerto Rico is going back to the Sombrero Valor Tournament?

This team played in my son's age group (U12). Our team was crushed by them in the final game but it was no surprise to anyone as the PR kids were incredible and clearly a high level team that played together year round. It was honestly really sad. Whole families traveled all the way here from PR, they had rented big vans and they camped out at the fields all day (because where else would they go?). I am sure they were baffled by how bad the other teams were at this "elite" tournament. (Our all star teams practice together 2 or 3 times, kids show up and are still learning each other's names at the games!) These poor people must have spent a fortune on flights and hotels. Our coach said he complained to Valor about travel teams playing in a rec tournament but no one answered his questions.

All our SFL age teams play in FPYC, haven't heard if the younger teams will be stuck with Valor again. Not really sure why we were there in the first place.

PS- Can confirm (1) no free churros and (2) medals were absolutely FUGLY. We were laughing about how awful they were. "50 cent trinket from South of the Border" is spot on. Not sure if it's one guy in charge with really bad taste that no one wants to gainsay or a bunch of old guys with bad taste, but man. I would honestly be embarrassed to have that in my house. What were they thinking with this whole theme?

Your coach complained about travel teams being in a rec tournament!?!? Let me guess… you’re a CYA team? I’m sick of hearing about loser coaches that can’t handle a loss with sportsmanship in these all star tournaments. Get this through your head CYA … travel teams do not waste time in our rec all stars. Stop filing meaningless complaints because you’re sore that a better team beat you.

Yet they sort of do. When my daughter was with Herndon. The U-8 all star tournament had loudoun pre-travel teams these girls played together all year and showed up to play REC kids. It was not fun at all.

You can add the label "pre-travel" all you like but that's still a rec team. And if you filed a complaint like CYA did against another rec team because they know how to run their organization better and train their kids better, then you are a loser like that CYA coach that filed a complaint.