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Anonymous wrote:Covid has changed healthcare dramatically. Healthcare workers concerns are front and center and patient concerns are far down on the list. In the real world people work more than 40 hours a week, deal with unpleasant people and take their jobs seriously. If they don’t care about their career and, in most cases, exceed expectations they will be forced out and certainly not progress in their field. Healthcare workers hold your life in their hands and they know it and there’s a good chance they don’t care. Did you ever notice that when you have a problem (you’re in pain, a billing issue, you need to schedule an appointment, etc) you walk away knowing all their problems and don’t get resolution for what you came for (even though that’s what their job is).
When a savvy person is in need of medical care they learn early on that no one cares about them. If you’re smart you feed their egos and even bring treats if you’re in the system with a chronic illness.
And you pray, a lot, and hope you are not harmed physically or emotionally.
YES! I've learned more ingratiating behaviors (compliments, active listening as they trauma-dump, remembering their trauma-dump stories from visit to visit, bringing treats/sweets) dealing with whitecoats than I did in my abusive marriage. I divorced that guy;
I can't divorce the entire US healthcare machine.
There is only one constant in your interactions.
Correct: that the US healthcare system sucks, and that some clinicians would rather blame their ill patients than look at their own involvement.
If it were just me, as you seem to be implying, there wouldn't be multiple threads on the subject. But go off.
There are millions of healthcare interactions a day. The numeric small minority that have decided the US healthcare system is a disaster making a few threads is statistically so far into the insignificant territory it’s like the head of a microscopic pin.
Right. There are millions of these interactions, and if every patient who asked a question or was reasonably trying to sort out a problem was "fired," there would be no system.
And yet some people experience nothing but obstruction and what they see as power-mad demigods providing healthcare, nothing but ogres as far as they can see -- and they keep experiencing this wherever they go, every clinic and every office.
One person can start six threads, or sixteen, or sixty. Or a group of a half-dozen people of the kind most likely to open a thread called "Drs firing patients" might be more likely to post in it and follow up with alacrity.
And then there are those millions of interactions that keep going on and on, and those people somehow, oddly, don't seem to have the same perspective. Quite inexplicable.
Keep showing up to these threads to dump on them/their authors.
On a long enough timeline, you'll encounter the problems we're trying to discuss.
And no, I don't experience "nothing but obstruction" wherever I go. It just doesn't take many bad experiences to lose faith in a system that wasn't structurally sound to begin with. I had my last PCP for a decade and a half before they switched to a patient management program that made me an nameless file number and dehumanized my care for profit. It wasn't always this way, it is this way a lot more often now, and it's not likely to get any better because anytime someone says anything, they get denied and dismissed by both providers and some other patients who've yet to experience the same treatment and would rather victim blame than consider the possibility.
It'll happen to you someday, despite how you seem to see yourself as a perfect patient (which you shouldn't have to be to receive high-quality care when you're sick/struggling/suffering). Hopefully soon, because you're becoming somewhat insufferable arguing other people's reality just because you haven't had their experiences (yet). Maybe see a psydoc about that?
Do you really think physicians aren't patients? Don't have MS, or heart surgeries, or Crohn's disease? Don't have miscarriages, brain tumors, rare skin disorders? No wonder
your rage blinds you.
It's a horrible, horrible system. You -- or another PP posting alongside you -- was disdainful that doctors weren't unionizing and fixing it, but didn't have the faintest clue that this is prohibited by law.
You are so focused on blame that you can't see what the problem really is, but you sure do want to get those kicks in on people who are tryign to help you. And then it's their fault for even wincing.
Focus on the system. I *guarantee* I've spent more time than you as a critically ill and chronic care patient. This system SUCKS.
Stop kicking people and vote to fix it. Turn that spotlight on the place it belongs, and actually do something.
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