Harvard President resigns

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am a liberal who has always hated 'cancel culture'. But I dont get how liberals who were fine with it when it impacted predators and conservatives, are suddenly incensed when it is turned around. Like - we invented this monster. and it was always a monster. We should not be shocked that the monster is co opted.

I am not a liberal, but I agree with you. We can all meet in a safe-space in the middle by supporting civil rights for all.

Start here:

https://www.thefire.org/

The Fire is a radical right-wing organization, not some credible neutral advocate for free speech.

Follow the money...

"FIRE has received major funding from groups which primarily support conservative and libertarian causes, including the Bradley Foundation, Sarah Scaife Foundation, and the Charles Koch Institute."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here is Harvard’s own guidance on plagiarism:

https://usingsources.fas.harvard.edu/what-constitutes-plagiarism-0

[b]Chair Elise Stefanik "blasted Harvard for allowing an alleged serial plagiarist to remain on the faculty. 'She's not fit to be a faculty member,' Stefanik told the Post. 'It's unacceptable when you have students at Harvard who would be expelled for plagiarism to allow a faculty member who has nearly 50 examples of plagiarism in their very slim body of academic work. It's absurd and everybody know it. Harvard knows it too.'" - Chair Elise Stefanik
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*"“Two down, one to go,” Ms. Stefanik says of the three university heads who testified before Congress in early December. The president of the University of Pennsylvania, Liz Magill, resigned just days after the hearing. It took weeks for the pressure to mount against Ms. Gay to the point where her presidency, as Ms. Stefanik puts it, became “untenable.” She is now urging the president of MIT to step down as well."
https://stefanik.house.gov/2024/1/icymi-the-new-york-sun-congresswoman-elise-stefanik-claudine-gay-s-departure-from-presidency-of-harvard-is-the-tip-of-the-iceberg

Ouch! Apparently don't mess Chair Elise Stefanik!

College students beware. If you engage in wrongthink, powerful republican government officials like Stefanik will demand that your colleges punish you. And if they don't, they will attack the leaders of your colleges until they punish you for your wrongthink.

You have this completely backwards. Right now, universities are overwhelmingly restricting the speech and other expression of conservative and republican college students.

If you truly cared about this issue, you would be wise to read up on what’s happening.

The best place to do so at the moment is the civil rights watchdog, the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression:

https://www.thefire.org

I realize this is a popular persecution fantasy for right wing nut jobs but unless you are saying conservative thinking aligns perfectly with bigotry it is not true.

Stefanik abused her power in a personal vendetta after Harvard kicked her off their senior advisory committee because of her treason against the United States.

Again, you have this completely backwards.

And your childish name-calling suggests your viewpoint has little to no merit.

Perhaps this discussion is beyond your limited intellect?

I realize that you probably barely have a GRE, but smart people are conversing. Why don’t you have a seat and listen? Maybe you will learn something.

If you can keep up, that is. We will try not to use big words.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Claudine Gay is not the problem.

She is a symptom of a much larger disease plaguing this country.

94% of new corporate jobs went to people of color despite whites making up 60% of the country.

https://cbsaustin.com/amp/news/nation-world/major-us-companies-gave-94-of-new-jobs-to-people-of-color-in-2021-report-says-diversity-hiring-employees-apple-nike-microsoft-wells-fargo

Healthcare, the military, airline pilots.

Race-based hiring has infected every last institution and industry in this country.

Sooner or later, we will all be feeling the consequences of abandoning merit.

In another context, wouldn’t this arguably be viewed as disparate impact evidence of discrimination?

No, because the headline is intentionally, inflammatorily misleading and does not reflect the full report. The job growth reported was post-pandemic rehiring (of POCs who had been disproportionately laid off) in non-managerial roles in sales, labor, and service; and the report also shows that jobs requiring degrees, professional, manager and execute jobs, disproportionally went to whites and Asians still.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here is Harvard’s own guidance on plagiarism:

https://usingsources.fas.harvard.edu/what-constitutes-plagiarism-0

[b]Chair Elise Stefanik "blasted Harvard for allowing an alleged serial plagiarist to remain on the faculty. 'She's not fit to be a faculty member,' Stefanik told the Post. 'It's unacceptable when you have students at Harvard who would be expelled for plagiarism to allow a faculty member who has nearly 50 examples of plagiarism in their very slim body of academic work. It's absurd and everybody know it. Harvard knows it too.'" - Chair Elise Stefanik
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*"“Two down, one to go,” Ms. Stefanik says of the three university heads who testified before Congress in early December. The president of the University of Pennsylvania, Liz Magill, resigned just days after the hearing. It took weeks for the pressure to mount against Ms. Gay to the point where her presidency, as Ms. Stefanik puts it, became “untenable.” She is now urging the president of MIT to step down as well."
https://stefanik.house.gov/2024/1/icymi-the-new-york-sun-congresswoman-elise-stefanik-claudine-gay-s-departure-from-presidency-of-harvard-is-the-tip-of-the-iceberg

Ouch! Apparently don't mess Chair Elise Stefanik!

College students beware. If you engage in wrongthink, powerful republican government officials like Stefanik will demand that your colleges punish you. And if they don't, they will attack the leaders of your colleges until they punish you for your wrongthink.

You have this completely backwards. Right now, universities are overwhelmingly restricting the speech and other expression of conservative and republican college students.

If you truly cared about this issue, you would be wise to read up on what’s happening.

The best place to do so at the moment is the civil rights watchdog, the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression:

https://www.thefire.org

Stefanik got upset that a bunch of college students were saying things she didn’t like, and that college’s weren’t punishing them for it. So she used her government position to get them punished. Pure censorship.

Oh come on. Stefanik just happened to be the opportunist in this situation. The real screw ups are the presidents who refused to condemn genocidal threats. And if we cannot agree on that, well there’s not much to discuss

Just because you approve of the censorship doesn’t mean it’s not censorship.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am a liberal who has always hated 'cancel culture'. But I dont get how liberals who were fine with it when it impacted predators and conservatives, are suddenly incensed when it is turned around. Like - we invented this monster. and it was always a monster. We should not be shocked that the monster is co opted.

Excuse me? Liberals didn’t invent cancel culture. This is a long-established conservative tactic. I mean, what do you think McCarthyism *was?*

If you don't invent something but engage in the practice of whatever it is, that's alright?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is Harvard’s own guidance on plagiarism:

https://usingsources.fas.harvard.edu/what-constitutes-plagiarism-0

[b]Chair Elise Stefanik "blasted Harvard for allowing an alleged serial plagiarist to remain on the faculty. 'She's not fit to be a faculty member,' Stefanik told the Post. 'It's unacceptable when you have students at Harvard who would be expelled for plagiarism to allow a faculty member who has nearly 50 examples of plagiarism in their very slim body of academic work. It's absurd and everybody know it. Harvard knows it too.'" - Chair Elise Stefanik
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*"“Two down, one to go,” Ms. Stefanik says of the three university heads who testified before Congress in early December. The president of the University of Pennsylvania, Liz Magill, resigned just days after the hearing. It took weeks for the pressure to mount against Ms. Gay to the point where her presidency, as Ms. Stefanik puts it, became “untenable.” She is now urging the president of MIT to step down as well."
https://stefanik.house.gov/2024/1/icymi-the-new-york-sun-congresswoman-elise-stefanik-claudine-gay-s-departure-from-presidency-of-harvard-is-the-tip-of-the-iceberg

Ouch! Apparently don't mess Chair Elise Stefanik!

College students beware. If you engage in wrongthink, powerful republican government officials like Stefanik will demand that your colleges punish you. And if they don't, they will attack the leaders of your colleges until they punish you for your wrongthink.

You have this completely backwards. Right now, universities are overwhelmingly restricting the speech and other expression of conservative and republican college students.

If you truly cared about this issue, you would be wise to read up on what’s happening.

The best place to do so at the moment is the civil rights watchdog, the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression:

https://www.thefire.org

I realize this is a popular persecution fantasy for right wing nut jobs but unless you are saying conservative thinking aligns perfectly with bigotry it is not true.

Stefanik abused her power in a personal vendetta after Harvard kicked her off their senior advisory committee because of her treason against the United States.

Again, you have this completely backwards.

And your childish name-calling suggests your viewpoint has little to no merit.

Perhaps this discussion is beyond your limited intellect?

I realize that you probably barely have a GRE, but smart people are conversing. Why don’t you have a seat and listen? Maybe you will learn something.

If you can keep up, that is. We will try not to use big words.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a liberal who has always hated 'cancel culture'. But I dont get how liberals who were fine with it when it impacted predators and conservatives, are suddenly incensed when it is turned around. Like - we invented this monster. and it was always a monster. We should not be shocked that the monster is co opted.

Excuse me? Liberals didn’t invent cancel culture. This is a long-established conservative tactic. I mean, what do you think McCarthyism *was?*

Amen, PP. The GOP has a looooong history of telling people what to think and do, starting with telling women what they can/can't do with their bodies and what people can do in their bedrooms.

List of things conservatives have cancelled
http://www.thealmightyguru.com/Wiki/index.php?title=List_of_things_Conservatives_have_%22canceled%22

What the GOP is masterful at--its key advantage--is coming up with buzzwords/phrases that resonate with certain voters by appealing to their fears and which engage them in the political process. "Cancel culture" is just one of them but there are may others: woke/woke left, elites, parental rights, states' rights, weaponization, big government, tax-and-spend liberals, fake news, grooming, and so much more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is Harvard’s own guidance on plagiarism:

https://usingsources.fas.harvard.edu/what-constitutes-plagiarism-0

[b]Chair Elise Stefanik "blasted Harvard for allowing an alleged serial plagiarist to remain on the faculty. 'She's not fit to be a faculty member,' Stefanik told the Post. 'It's unacceptable when you have students at Harvard who would be expelled for plagiarism to allow a faculty member who has nearly 50 examples of plagiarism in their very slim body of academic work. It's absurd and everybody know it. Harvard knows it too.'" - Chair Elise Stefanik
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*"“Two down, one to go,” Ms. Stefanik says of the three university heads who testified before Congress in early December. The president of the University of Pennsylvania, Liz Magill, resigned just days after the hearing. It took weeks for the pressure to mount against Ms. Gay to the point where her presidency, as Ms. Stefanik puts it, became “untenable.” She is now urging the president of MIT to step down as well."
https://stefanik.house.gov/2024/1/icymi-the-new-york-sun-congresswoman-elise-stefanik-claudine-gay-s-departure-from-presidency-of-harvard-is-the-tip-of-the-iceberg

Ouch! Apparently don't mess Chair Elise Stefanik!

College students beware. If you engage in wrongthink, powerful republican government officials like Stefanik will demand that your colleges punish you. And if they don't, they will attack the leaders of your colleges until they punish you for your wrongthink.

You have this completely backwards. Right now, universities are overwhelmingly restricting the speech and other expression of conservative and republican college students.

If you truly cared about this issue, you would be wise to read up on what’s happening.

The best place to do so at the moment is the civil rights watchdog, the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression:

https://www.thefire.org

I realize this is a popular persecution fantasy for right wing nut jobs but unless you are saying conservative thinking aligns perfectly with bigotry it is not true.

Stefanik abused her power in a personal vendetta after Harvard kicked her off their senior advisory committee because of her treason against the United States.

Again, you have this completely backwards.

And your childish name-calling suggests your viewpoint has little to no merit.

Perhaps this discussion is beyond your limited intellect?

I realize that you probably barely have a GRE, but smart people are conversing. Why don’t you have a seat and listen? Maybe you will learn something.

If you can keep up, that is. We will try not to use big words.

That's an offensive little video.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a liberal who has always hated 'cancel culture'. But I dont get how liberals who were fine with it when it impacted predators and conservatives, are suddenly incensed when it is turned around. Like - we invented this monster. and it was always a monster. We should not be shocked that the monster is co opted.

Excuse me? Liberals didn’t invent cancel culture. This is a long-established conservative tactic. I mean, what do you think McCarthyism *was?*

Amen, PP. The GOP has a looooong history of telling people what to think and do, starting with telling women what they can/can't do with their bodies and what people can do in their bedrooms.

List of things conservatives have cancelled
http://www.thealmightyguru.com/Wiki/index.php?title=List_of_things_Conservatives_have_%22canceled%22

What the GOP is masterful at--its key advantage--is coming up with buzzwords/phrases that resonate with certain voters by appealing to their fears and which engage them in the political process. "Cancel culture" is just one of them but there are may others: woke/woke left, elites, parental rights, states' rights, weaponization, big government, tax-and-spend liberals, fake news, grooming, and so much more.

like "deplorables?"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a liberal who has always hated 'cancel culture'. But I dont get how liberals who were fine with it when it impacted predators and conservatives, are suddenly incensed when it is turned around. Like - we invented this monster. and it was always a monster. We should not be shocked that the monster is co opted.

Excuse me? Liberals didn’t invent cancel culture. This is a long-established conservative tactic. I mean, what do you think McCarthyism *was?*

Amen, PP. The GOP has a looooong history of telling people what to think and do, starting with telling women what they can/can't do with their bodies and what people can do in their bedrooms.

List of things conservatives have cancelled
http://www.thealmightyguru.com/Wiki/index.php?title=List_of_things_Conservatives_have_%22canceled%22

What the GOP is masterful at--its key advantage--is coming up with buzzwords/phrases that resonate with certain voters by appealing to their fears and which engage them in the political process. "Cancel culture" is just one of them but there are may others: woke/woke left, elites, parental rights, states' rights, weaponization, big government, tax-and-spend liberals, fake news, grooming, and so much more.

like "deplorables?"

No, like "vermin."

[Anonymous]

OH SHIT!!! NEIL GORSUCH IS GOING TO HAVE TO RESIGN TOO!!!!

Can't wait for even MORE coverage of Gorsuch's plagiarism; given that he's way more important than Gay. The liberal New York Times has featured Gay in their top 5 stories on 12 different occasions in the last month. Buckle up Neil!

https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2024/01/breaking-most-important-scandal-in-recent-american-political-and-legal-history

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OH SHIT!!! NEIL GORSUCH IS GOING TO HAVE TO RESIGN TOO!!!!

Can't wait for even MORE coverage of Gorsuch's plagiarism; given that he's way more important than Gay. The liberal New York Times has featured Gay in their top 5 stories on 12 different occasions in the last month. Buckle up Neil!

https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2024/01/breaking-most-important-scandal-in-recent-american-political-and-legal-history

You're aware that this was already discussed across multiple posts, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OH SHIT!!! NEIL GORSUCH IS GOING TO HAVE TO RESIGN TOO!!!!

Can't wait for even MORE coverage of Gorsuch's plagiarism; given that he's way more important than Gay. The liberal New York Times has featured Gay in their top 5 stories on 12 different occasions in the last month. Buckle up Neil!

https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2024/01/breaking-most-important-scandal-in-recent-american-political-and-legal-history

Well.... then our Plagiarist-in-Chief needs to resign as well.

And, the whole Gorsuch thing was a hail Mary left-wing hit job attempt.....

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/that-gorsuch-plagiarism-story-stinks

Supreme Court nominee Neil Gorsuch is not a plagiarist, according to the woman from whom he has been accused of lifting materials.

"I have reviewed both passages and do not see an issue here, even though the language is similar. These passages are factual, not analytical in nature," Abigail Lawlis Kuzma, who serves as chief counsel to the Consumer Protection Division of the Indiana Attorney General's office, said in a statement made available to the Washington Examiner.

"[The similar] passages are factual, not analytical in nature, framing both the technical legal and medical circumstances of the 'Baby/Infant Doe' case that occurred in 1982," Kuzma explained. "Given that these passages both describe the basic facts of the case, it would have been awkward and difficult for Judge Gorsuch to have used different language."

However, several additional professors who worked closely with Gorsuch during the period in which he produced much of the work in question said the hints and allegations against the judge are nonsense.

"[I]n my opinion, none of the allegations has any substance or justification," Oxford University's John Finnis said in a statement made available to the Examiner. "In all four cases, Neil Gorsuch's writing and citing was easily and well within the proper and accepted standards of scholarly research and writing in the field of study in which he was working."

Georgetown University's John Keown, who reviewed Gorsuch's dissertation, said elsewhere in a statement: "The allegation is entirely without foundation. The book is meticulous in its citation of primary sources. The allegation that the book is guilty of plagiarism because it does not cite secondary sources which draw on those same primary sources is, frankly, absurd. Indeed, the book's reliance on primary rather than secondary sources is one of its many strengths."

Further, actual attorneys disagree that Gorsuch plagiarized anything.

"People unfamiliar with legal writing, or even writing, may be unfamiliar with how citations work," attorney Thomas Crown explained Wednesday. "When I cite to a case or statute, if I am quoting verbatim, I give a direct quotation, with apostrophes and everything, and then the source. If I am summarizing, sometimes even using the same words, I follow with the direct citation. The Bluebook, which is the legal style Bible, is for law reviews and some appellate and trial courts, and has more specific rules.

"I mention this because this is standard across numerous fields, not just law, and only illiterates … are shocked," he added. "Different field with different standards and forms; but even most academics believe that a good synopsis with citation isn't plagiarism."

In conclusion, he wrote, "I don't want to ruin a perfectly good five-minute hate, but this isn't even close to plagiarism."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a liberal who has always hated 'cancel culture'. But I dont get how liberals who were fine with it when it impacted predators and conservatives, are suddenly incensed when it is turned around. Like - we invented this monster. and it was always a monster. We should not be shocked that the monster is co opted.

I am not a liberal, but I agree with you. We can all meet in a safe-space in the middle by supporting civil rights for all.

Start here:

https://www.thefire.org/

Civil rights for all, including equality.

“Equity” is a flawed notion, however.

[Anonymous]

DEI is so over.