How can we make DC streets bicycle and pedestrian-only?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately I believe that some of the bike zealots don’t see elderly residents as having a place in their vision for DC as a Vibrant Urbanist Nirvana. On message boards and public meetings, concerns about the need for parking so that older residents can drive to local shopping have been met with snide ageist comments like go to the burbs, or more pointedly, sell your house and move out to Leisure World.

The vast majority of elderly people can and should walk - maybe we should concentrate on making walking easier and safer for them? They can also take public transportation. Maybe we should concentrate on making public transit safer and more efficient?

Or is your argument really that the beat solution is to continue to force 90 year olds to drive everywhere?

Good idea to have DCs elderly population out walking. Would make them easy targets to be robbed and beaten on the sidewalks and run down by spreading carjackers in intersections.

Would obviously help ensure social security remains solvent. A win-win for everyone.

I don't understand people who drive everywhere in DC, with their car as personal armor, because they are too scared that someone will attack them if they walk or take transit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DC is such a beautifully designed city, with amazing outdoor dining and cafe potential.

But trucks, busses, cars and motorcycles ruin it for us residents.

DC is geographically tiny, so why not make our streets pedestrian and bicycles- only?

So make it completely inaccessible for the disabled, because...we don't count? WTF?!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:DC is such a beautifully designed city, with amazing outdoor dining and cafe potential.

But trucks, busses, cars and motorcycles ruin it for us residents.

DC is geographically tiny, so why not make our streets pedestrian and bicycles- only?

So make it completely inaccessible for the disabled, because...we don't count? WTF?!

To increase access for the disabled, we need to prioritize sidewalks, mobility lanes, and transit, over driving.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately I believe that some of the bike zealots don’t see elderly residents as having a place in their vision for DC as a Vibrant Urbanist Nirvana. On message boards and public meetings, concerns about the need for parking so that older residents can drive to local shopping have been met with snide ageist comments like go to the burbs, or more pointedly, sell your house and move out to Leisure World.

The vast majority of elderly people can and should walk - maybe we should concentrate on making walking easier and safer for them? They can also take public transportation. Maybe we should concentrate on making public transit safer and more efficient?

Or is your argument really that the beat solution is to continue to force 90 year olds to drive everywhere?

Good idea to have DCs elderly population out walking. Would make them easy targets to be robbed and beaten on the sidewalks and run down by spreading carjackers in intersections.

Would obviously help ensure social security remains solvent. A win-win for everyone.

I don't understand people who drive everywhere in DC, with their car as personal armor, because they are too scared that someone will attack them if they walk or take transit.

I drive because I’m lazy or the weather - too hot. Too cold. Rain. Snow. Etc. not because I’m afraid of crime.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately I believe that some of the bike zealots don’t see elderly residents as having a place in their vision for DC as a Vibrant Urbanist Nirvana. On message boards and public meetings, concerns about the need for parking so that older residents can drive to local shopping have been met with snide ageist comments like go to the burbs, or more pointedly, sell your house and move out to Leisure World.

The vast majority of elderly people can and should walk - maybe we should concentrate on making walking easier and safer for them? They can also take public transportation. Maybe we should concentrate on making public transit safer and more efficient?

Or is your argument really that the beat solution is to continue to force 90 year olds to drive everywhere?

Good idea to have DCs elderly population out walking. Would make them easy targets to be robbed and beaten on the sidewalks and run down by spreading carjackers in intersections.

Would obviously help ensure social security remains solvent. A win-win for everyone.

I don't understand people who drive everywhere in DC, with their car as personal armor, because they are too scared that someone will attack them if they walk or take transit.

I drive because I’m lazy or the weather - too hot. Too cold. Rain. Snow. Etc. not because I’m afraid of crime.

Ok, then that comment wasn't about you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is a great idea. Police cars, ambulances or fire trucks make DC less safe and need to be eliminated.

Is that what you drive as your personal-use vehicle?

There are like 600,000 registered vehicles in DC.

I’ll let you draw conclusions as to what that means for city living preferences by residents not named you.

Correction: DC has 310,000 registered vehicles and 288,000 households.

Many of the wealthier households have more than one vehicle. And many of those households don't actually use all of their vehicles often.

The average DC household has chosen to own 1 vehicle. Not by force but by choice. It’s hilarious to me that you think that you should be able to impose your preferred lifestyle on an entire city that has chosen to live differently.

A solid 40% of households in the city had no car as of 2021. So, no, my point above still stands. Many wealthier households have more than one car.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:DC is such a beautifully designed city, with amazing outdoor dining and cafe potential.

But trucks, busses, cars and motorcycles ruin it for us residents.

DC is geographically tiny, so why not make our streets pedestrian and bicycles- only?

We were a beautiful city. And then a million flexiposts and permanent jersey walls were installed everywhere. DC is hideous now with so many lines painted everywhere and dirty, half broken flexiposts.

Maybe try not running them over as much?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is a great idea. Police cars, ambulances or fire trucks make DC less safe and need to be eliminated.

Is that what you drive as your personal-use vehicle?

There are like 600,000 registered vehicles in DC.

I’ll let you draw conclusions as to what that means for city living preferences by residents not named you.

Correction: DC has 310,000 registered vehicles and 288,000 households.

Many of the wealthier households have more than one vehicle. And many of those households don't actually use all of their vehicles often.

The average DC household has chosen to own 1 vehicle. Not by force but by choice. It’s hilarious to me that you think that you should be able to impose your preferred lifestyle on an entire city that has chosen to live differently.

The average DC household drives because they don't live in your rich NW or Capitol Hill neighborhood where the metro is easy to access, a grocery store is walkable, etc.

I would spend an extra hour at least per day trying to commute by public transportation alone with two kids and that's not even factoring in a grocery trip or needing to get my sick kid to an urgent care. Two full time working parents just don't have time for that. Sure it's doable for the rich folks in NW but not for the rest of us in parts of the city many of you sre scared to venture.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a great idea. Police cars, ambulances or fire trucks make DC less safe and need to be eliminated.

Is that what you drive as your personal-use vehicle?

There are like 600,000 registered vehicles in DC.

I’ll let you draw conclusions as to what that means for city living preferences by residents not named you.

Correction: DC has 310,000 registered vehicles and 288,000 households.

Many of the wealthier households have more than one vehicle. And many of those households don't actually use all of their vehicles often.

The average DC household has chosen to own 1 vehicle. Not by force but by choice. It’s hilarious to me that you think that you should be able to impose your preferred lifestyle on an entire city that has chosen to live differently.

The average DC household drives because they don't live in your rich NW or Capitol Hill neighborhood where the metro is easy to access, a grocery store is walkable, etc.

I would spend an extra hour at least per day trying to commute by public transportation alone with two kids and that's not even factoring in a grocery trip or needing to get my sick kid to an urgent care. Two full time working parents just don't have time for that. Sure it's doable for the rich folks in NW but not for the rest of us in parts of the city many of you sre scared to venture.

Plenty of two full time working parents get around the city without a car.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a great idea. Police cars, ambulances or fire trucks make DC less safe and need to be eliminated.

Is that what you drive as your personal-use vehicle?

There are like 600,000 registered vehicles in DC.

I’ll let you draw conclusions as to what that means for city living preferences by residents not named you.

Correction: DC has 310,000 registered vehicles and 288,000 households.

Many of the wealthier households have more than one vehicle. And many of those households don't actually use all of their vehicles often.

The average DC household has chosen to own 1 vehicle. Not by force but by choice. It’s hilarious to me that you think that you should be able to impose your preferred lifestyle on an entire city that has chosen to live differently.

The average DC household drives because they don't live in your rich NW or Capitol Hill neighborhood where the metro is easy to access, a grocery store is walkable, etc.

I would spend an extra hour at least per day trying to commute by public transportation alone with two kids and that's not even factoring in a grocery trip or needing to get my sick kid to an urgent care. Two full time working parents just don't have time for that. Sure it's doable for the rich folks in NW but not for the rest of us in parts of the city many of you sre scared to venture.

Plenty of two full time working parents get around the city without a car.

Depends where they live and where they need to get to. Calculating public transport vs drive times, public transport adds 40 min one way to my total morning commute dropping kids off at DCPS elementary school and then continuing on to my DC workplace. About the same for the return trip so an extra 80 minutes per day. Hell to the no.

You are being willfully ignorant if you think DC public transportation is sufficient enough that it's a better choice than driving for most people in the city.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a great idea. Police cars, ambulances or fire trucks make DC less safe and need to be eliminated.

Is that what you drive as your personal-use vehicle?

There are like 600,000 registered vehicles in DC.

I’ll let you draw conclusions as to what that means for city living preferences by residents not named you.

Correction: DC has 310,000 registered vehicles and 288,000 households.

Many of the wealthier households have more than one vehicle. And many of those households don't actually use all of their vehicles often.

The average DC household has chosen to own 1 vehicle. Not by force but by choice. It’s hilarious to me that you think that you should be able to impose your preferred lifestyle on an entire city that has chosen to live differently.

The average DC household drives because they don't live in your rich NW or Capitol Hill neighborhood where the metro is easy to access, a grocery store is walkable, etc.

I would spend an extra hour at least per day trying to commute by public transportation alone with two kids and that's not even factoring in a grocery trip or needing to get my sick kid to an urgent care. Two full time working parents just don't have time for that. Sure it's doable for the rich folks in NW but not for the rest of us in parts of the city many of you sre scared to venture.

Plenty of two full time working parents get around the city without a car.

Not if your kids are between the age of 7 and 13. Or play sports. Etc.

[Anonymous]

People with real lives don’t want this nor would tourists to DC. 16 pages on a dumb idea. Go join a neighborhood watch and make DC safe again.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a great idea. Police cars, ambulances or fire trucks make DC less safe and need to be eliminated.

Is that what you drive as your personal-use vehicle?

There are like 600,000 registered vehicles in DC.

I’ll let you draw conclusions as to what that means for city living preferences by residents not named you.

Correction: DC has 310,000 registered vehicles and 288,000 households.

Many of the wealthier households have more than one vehicle. And many of those households don't actually use all of their vehicles often.

The average DC household has chosen to own 1 vehicle. Not by force but by choice. It’s hilarious to me that you think that you should be able to impose your preferred lifestyle on an entire city that has chosen to live differently.

The average DC household drives because they don't live in your rich NW or Capitol Hill neighborhood where the metro is easy to access, a grocery store is walkable, etc.

I would spend an extra hour at least per day trying to commute by public transportation alone with two kids and that's not even factoring in a grocery trip or needing to get my sick kid to an urgent care. Two full time working parents just don't have time for that. Sure it's doable for the rich folks in NW but not for the rest of us in parts of the city many of you sre scared to venture.

Plenty of two full time working parents get around the city without a car.

Depends where they live and where they need to get to. Calculating public transport vs drive times, public transport adds 40 min one way to my total morning commute dropping kids off at DCPS elementary school and then continuing on to my DC workplace. About the same for the return trip so an extra 80 minutes per day. Hell to the no.

You are being willfully ignorant if you think DC public transportation is sufficient enough that it's a better choice than driving for most people in the city.

It would probably be helpful for you to distinguish between "This doesn't work for me" and "Nobody does it." Especially if you're the poster who spends so much time in the car, going such short distances, in NE DC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People with real lives don’t want this nor would tourists to DC. 16 pages on a dumb idea. Go join a neighborhood watch and make DC safe again.

Most tourists in DC know better than to try to see DC by car.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC is such a beautifully designed city, with amazing outdoor dining and cafe potential.

But trucks, busses, cars and motorcycles ruin it for us residents.

DC is geographically tiny, so why not make our streets pedestrian and bicycles- only?

So make it completely inaccessible for the disabled, because...we don't count? WTF?!

To increase access for the disabled, we need to prioritize sidewalks, mobility lanes, and transit, over driving.

Really, and how is that? Are you disabled, and you know what you're talking about? Because I am. Otherwise you are just an ablest bigot. Don't tell me why you know better re transportation, mobility and access. I am so SICK and tired of non disabled people telling me what I need.