If you are wealthy would you send your kids to a W school over private?

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Anonymous wrote:Lastly, how do you square MCPS’s crappy math state test results with your argument that they’re great at teaching math?

I think you don't understand data analysis.

MCPS has a ton of low income kids, kids with SN, ESOL kids that private schools don't have. So of course, at the district level, the report will show a lot more kids not doing well.

Take the high achieving kids in MCPS and compare them to private kids. That's a better apples to apples comparison.

Please take a course in data analysis and critical thinking.

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s please let the OP or whomever have this and shut this thread down. For some reason they will not believe that in this area there are plenty of folks that can afford private school and yet still send their kids to public school. Nor plenty of kids leave MCPS prepared for college and then go onto lead normal happy healthy lives.

No — that’s not the ridiculous part. The ridiculous part is saying the public schools are SO much better than the private schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s please let the OP or whomever have this and shut this thread down. For some reason they will not believe that in this area there are plenty of folks that can afford private school and yet still send their kids to public school. Nor plenty of kids leave MCPS prepared for college and then go onto lead normal happy healthy lives.

You’re right. Let them have it. Clearly, they desperately need it.

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Anonymous wrote:Lastly, how do you square MCPS’s crappy math state test results with your argument that they’re great at teaching math?

I think you don't understand data analysis.

MCPS has a ton of low income kids, kids with SN, ESOL kids that private schools don't have. So of course, at the district level, the report will show a lot more kids not doing well.

Take the high achieving kids in MCPS and compare them to private kids. That's a better apples to apples comparison.

Please take a course in data analysis and critical thinking.

MCPS does poorly even when you control for all of that.

But show me that comparison of high achieving kids and prove that MCPS outperforms their private school counterparts.

You’re the one making the argument, so the burden of proof is on you.

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Anonymous wrote:If you have a student who is gifted in math and science, the publics offer accelerated classes that the private schools do not. They have large enough cohorts to offer classes beyond APs, like multivariable calc or science electives taught by NIH retirees.

We’ve been over this already. We showed you the course catalogs from top private schools and proved that this is wrong. Do we need to rehash this?

Apparently, we do. The privates are not even close in math and science options, or in providing an advanced math cohort.

Look at the 8-9 course catalogs I posted.

that doesn't show the number of cohorts in the class. I stated above, my kid's HS needs two MVC classes.

Your kid’s HS is probably 4 times larger than most private schools, so the percentage of the class in MVC is likely comparable to private, if not lower.

Simple math, my friend.

um.. that's the point. Public schools like that will have a larger high achieving cohort than private. More kids to make friends with.

Before we moved here, there was only one single kid who was reading at the same level as my DC (3 grades above). When we moved here to the DC area, half the class was reading at DC's level. It was so great for DC to have a large peer cohort.

Having a good sized high achieving peer cohort is important for those who are high achieving, and that applies to private or lower performing schools. And btw, we used to live in a very wealthy area.

But that doesn’t mean public schools are better at teaching math, which is the contention here. It just means they’re bigger.

But public schools are better at teaching math. Math competitions results prove it.

Take out the magnet kids, as private school kids also get into those programs.

Also, show me that private school kids try to compete in those and fail.

Check mathcounts, AMC8 etc...

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Also, if MCPS taught math SO WELL, they’d be able to teach kids regardless of income.

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s please let the OP or whomever have this and shut this thread down. For some reason they will not believe that in this area there are plenty of folks that can afford private school and yet still send their kids to public school. Nor plenty of kids leave MCPS prepared for college and then go onto lead normal happy healthy lives.

+1 How is that Whitman and Churchill are full if every wealthy person chooses to put their kids in private? Sure, not everyone in those neighborhoods are uber wealthy, but if you look at the median income in those zip codes, there are enough families that *could* afford to send their kids to private.

I know some pretty wealthy families who send their kids to MCPS.

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s please let the OP or whomever have this and shut this thread down. For some reason they will not believe that in this area there are plenty of folks that can afford private school and yet still send their kids to public school. Nor plenty of kids leave MCPS prepared for college and then go onto lead normal happy healthy lives.

+1 How is that Whitman and Churchill are full if every wealthy person chooses to put their kids in private? Sure, not everyone in those neighborhoods are uber wealthy, but if you look at the median income in those zip codes, there are enough families that *could* afford to send their kids to private.

I know some pretty wealthy families who send their kids to MCPS.

Umm what

No one said no one chooses public if they’re wealthy.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, if MCPS taught math SO WELL, they’d be able to teach kids regardless of income.

Are you this clueless in real life?

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Anonymous wrote:Also, if MCPS taught math SO WELL, they’d be able to teach kids regardless of income.

Are you this clueless in real life?

So just to be clear, when you say MCPS teaches math well, you really mean they teach it well to kids already set up for success, with parents who can supplement.

Color me SO impressed.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, if MCPS taught math SO WELL, they’d be able to teach kids regardless of income.

This sounds so nice! And also World peace, eradicate hunger and everyone gets free butterflies to escort them to the bus every morning.
Love it.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, if MCPS taught math SO WELL, they’d be able to teach kids regardless of income.

Are you this clueless in real life?

So just to be clear, when you say MCPS teaches math well, you really mean they teach it well to kids already set up for success, with parents who can supplement.

Color me SO impressed.

My son does very well. We don't supplement.
If you don't understand why lower income kids do poorly at school you should do some research. The fact that more than 1 billionaire has made educating poor kids a pet project -- and failed at it --- should tell you something.

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s please let the OP or whomever have this and shut this thread down. For some reason they will not believe that in this area there are plenty of folks that can afford private school and yet still send their kids to public school. Nor plenty of kids leave MCPS prepared for college and then go onto lead normal happy healthy lives.

+1 How is that Whitman and Churchill are full if every wealthy person chooses to put their kids in private? Sure, not everyone in those neighborhoods are uber wealthy, but if you look at the median income in those zip codes, there are enough families that *could* afford to send their kids to private.

I know some pretty wealthy families who send their kids to MCPS.

Enough to what, exactly?

You need something like $180k pretax income to pay $100k post tax on private school, for a UMC family. For a pretty dang wealthy family making $500k/yr, that would be over 1/3 of their income!

So obviously while maybe a lot of these families could barely squeak it out with very major sacrifices, no, even the UMC families cannot really afford it. The fiction that there are so so many MCPS families who just love public so much, and it isn't because really they can't afford it, is just that, a fiction.

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Are you this clueless in real life?

So just to be clear, when you say MCPS teaches math well, you really mean they teach it well to kids already set up for success, with parents who can supplement.

Color me SO impressed.

My son does very well. We don't supplement.
If you don't understand why lower income kids do poorly at school you should do some research. The fact that more than 1 billionaire has made educating poor kids a pet project -- and failed at it --- should tell you something.

Yes of course, but why am I supposed to impressed that UMC kids do well in math? They would do well in almost any system. That tells me little to nothing about the quality of instruction.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, if MCPS taught math SO WELL, they’d be able to teach kids regardless of income.

Are you this clueless in real life?

So just to be clear, when you say MCPS teaches math well, you really mean they teach it well to kids already set up for success, with parents who can supplement.

Color me SO impressed.

My son does very well. We don't supplement.
If you don't understand why lower income kids do poorly at school you should do some research. The fact that more than 1 billionaire has made educating poor kids a pet project -- and failed at it --- should tell you something.

Yes of course, but why am I supposed to impressed that UMC kids do well in math? They would do well in almost any system. That tells me little to nothing about the quality of instruction.

Yay! You finally admit it. Can we end the thread now?