Companies are on the war path against remote work

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Anonymous wrote:I am back in office five days a week. You can’t run out the door at end of hours with in person. The CEO, CFO, CIO, Sr Mgr, controller, HR are in person and often there early or late.

So my new schedule is leave for work 745 am get home 6:30 pm five days a week.

The last people home are slowly realizing unless you are over 63 the game will end in 1-3 years and will get let go perhaps in next recession.

At my job it is moms with young kids, people goofing off, folks near retirement pushing Back

What's going on here is that your company and mgmt sucks.

My mgt is great. I love it. My kids now have a dad with a real job as opposed to an unshaved guy in a hoodie walking around in socks all day looking like a homeless man.

LOL! This is the J1, J2, J3… clown.

Or it might be don't hire women of childbearing age man. I don't see how you go into the office 5 days with 3 jobs.

I only have two jobs now!! I did RTO on the highest paying one. I quit the middle paying one. I kept my one WFH job.

My WFH job I attend two meetings each week at lunch timeI have it loaded on iPhone on the company meeting app and if I go through app same appearance as work laptop. Or do laptop in car with cellular hot spot with blurred background. My other biweekly meeting is 7am to 815 with Europe I do before work. I catch up late at night or Sunday morning. I work maybe 5-6 hours a week for $196k comp. My real job pays a lot more.

My j2 I ended paid $188k. That was like 5-6 hours a day WFH not worth it.


WFH is a joke. I do a full 8 hours in the office. Plus I get nice lunches, a big office, secretary, expense account, paid cell phone, staff to hang out with, off site board meetings at fancy hotels, fancy Xmas party, get to do business lunches.

So much better than my basement alone. Plus I save in person company like $400k today. My WFH would never do that as who cares

So you couldn't hack it WFH and posted on DCUM all day instead of working, and now you pathetically project your time-management and attention issues onto all WFH workers.

The perks you list above are stupid ego-feeding nonsense. You need to get therapy and some friends to hang out with besides staff. The secretary sounds helpful (administrative assistant you dinosaur), the rest is complete BS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If I’m going to RTO, I refuse to do anything after hours from home, either. If I’m not allowed to WFH, that means I’m not required to.

Does this apply only if you are required to go in five days a week? What if it is 2? or3?

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On any of the days I’m required to go in. It’s basic logic. If WFH is bad, then it’s bad & I shouldn’t do it.

Fine. You do that. Maybe that’s all your employer expects from you, anyway. Or maybe not. Maybe your name will be first on the list of people to lay off when the economy slows down. We’ll see.

[Anonymous]

I work for a large blue chip American company and have seen no signs of “required” RTO. A lot of people want to come back part time, but WFH, RTO, hybrid is up to 1:1 conversations with managers.

Obviously there are roles and teams that must be at a facility or in the field, but they weren’t really office jobs in the before times either.

It’d be reasonable for my boss to require me back 3-4 days a week, but I doubt that will happen. We are all way more productive in professional and personal lives when we can make our own schedules. As long as employees stay productive and are in roles that can be remote, they won’t be forced back. I think a lot of companies are like mine and few are like Tesla.

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Anonymous wrote:I am back in office five days a week. You can’t run out the door at end of hours with in person. The CEO, CFO, CIO, Sr Mgr, controller, HR are in person and often there early or late.

So my new schedule is leave for work 745 am get home 6:30 pm five days a week.

The last people home are slowly realizing unless you are over 63 the game will end in 1-3 years and will get let go perhaps in next recession.

At my job it is moms with young kids, people goofing off, folks near retirement pushing Back

What's going on here is that your company and mgmt sucks.

My mgt is great. I love it. My kids now have a dad with a real job as opposed to an unshaved guy in a hoodie walking around in socks all day looking like a homeless man.

LOL! This is the J1, J2, J3… clown.

Or it might be don't hire women of childbearing age man. I don't see how you go into the office 5 days with 3 jobs.

I only have two jobs now!! I did RTO on the highest paying one. I quit the middle paying one. I kept my one WFH job.

My WFH job I attend two meetings each week at lunch timeI have it loaded on iPhone on the company meeting app and if I go through app same appearance as work laptop. Or do laptop in car with cellular hot spot with blurred background. My other biweekly meeting is 7am to 815 with Europe I do before work. I catch up late at night or Sunday morning. I work maybe 5-6 hours a week for $196k comp. My real job pays a lot more.

My j2 I ended paid $188k. That was like 5-6 hours a day WFH not worth it.


WFH is a joke. I do a full 8 hours in the office. Plus I get nice lunches, a big office, secretary, expense account, paid cell phone, staff to hang out with, off site board meetings at fancy hotels, fancy Xmas party, get to do business lunches.

So much better than my basement alone. Plus I save in person company like $400k today. My WFH would never do that as who cares

This is a intricate fake post.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am back in office five days a week. You can’t run out the door at end of hours with in person. The CEO, CFO, CIO, Sr Mgr, controller, HR are in person and often there early or late.

So my new schedule is leave for work 745 am get home 6:30 pm five days a week.

The last people home are slowly realizing unless you are over 63 the game will end in 1-3 years and will get let go perhaps in next recession.

At my job it is moms with young kids, people goofing off, folks near retirement pushing Back

What's going on here is that your company and mgmt sucks.

My mgt is great. I love it. My kids now have a dad with a real job as opposed to an unshaved guy in a hoodie walking around in socks all day looking like a homeless man.

LOL! This is the J1, J2, J3… clown.

Or it might be don't hire women of childbearing age man. I don't see how you go into the office 5 days with 3 jobs.

I only have two jobs now!! I did RTO on the highest paying one. I quit the middle paying one. I kept my one WFH job.

My WFH job I attend two meetings each week at lunch timeI have it loaded on iPhone on the company meeting app and if I go through app same appearance as work laptop. Or do laptop in car with cellular hot spot with blurred background. My other biweekly meeting is 7am to 815 with Europe I do before work. I catch up late at night or Sunday morning. I work maybe 5-6 hours a week for $196k comp. My real job pays a lot more.

My j2 I ended paid $188k. That was like 5-6 hours a day WFH not worth it.


WFH is a joke. I do a full 8 hours in the office. Plus I get nice lunches, a big office, secretary, expense account, paid cell phone, staff to hang out with, off site board meetings at fancy hotels, fancy Xmas party, get to do business lunches.

So much better than my basement alone. Plus I save in person company like $400k today. My WFH would never do that as who cares

So you couldn't hack it WFH and posted on DCUM all day instead of working, and now you pathetically project your time-management and attention issues onto all WFH workers.

The perks you list above are stupid ego-feeding nonsense. You need to get therapy and some friends to hang out with besides staff. The secretary sounds helpful (administrative assistant you dinosaur), the rest is complete BS.

Secretary isn’t pc?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Cities threatening to get rid of tax breaks for companies if they don’t RTO, because apparently small businesses are suffering, downtowns are becoming ghost towns, CRE values are plummeting & public transportation is being crime-filled due to normies no longer taking it.

Honestly, I am sick and tired if the FT WFH evangelists acting like these are not valid concerns. They are. Acting as if they are not is making the RTO worse. If you’re unwilling to meet halfway with hybrid, they’ll just make everyone come in all the time. The war path is over. People go back now.

They're not a valid concern to me. You know what is a valid concern? My health and time that WFH allows me to spend with my family. Not to mention the fact that I am FAR more productive on WFH days than I was in the office. I hate small talk. It takes up time, and I just don't care about people's random home shit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You guys really have NO power. Companies and agencies are going to order you back to work. You will have no choice but to work in the office for your current employer or if you quit, your future employer. No-one cares if you bring your bologna sandwich from home or not - enough people will buy lunch and coffee and shop at lunchtime for last minute gifts. You guys keep thinking your individual experiences carry so much weight when they don't. In the grand scheme of things, no-one cares and you will find this out soon.

You’ve been saying this since April 2020. Any day now they will make me come back!

Dude, it hasn’t happened. I worked for a different company then and they downsized to accommodate WFH and hybrid, as did the company I started working for in 2021. You should see the elementary school bus stop at 405 in the afternoon. It’s full of parents picking up kids who want to socialize a few minutes before heading back online. NONE of my neighbors and friends are back in the office beyond occasionally.

[Anonymous]

My workplace is hybrid with a lot of individual choice on days/number of days/no days.
I haven't been able to time it right and it seems too crowded. No conference rooms, no workspaces, too noisy, since everyone is just zoom calling for the most part. So I just WFH

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am back in office five days a week. You can’t run out the door at end of hours with in person. The CEO, CFO, CIO, Sr Mgr, controller, HR are in person and often there early or late.

So my new schedule is leave for work 745 am get home 6:30 pm five days a week.

The last people home are slowly realizing unless you are over 63 the game will end in 1-3 years and will get let go perhaps in next recession.

At my job it is moms with young kids, people goofing off, folks near retirement pushing Back

What's going on here is that your company and mgmt sucks.

My mgt is great. I love it. My kids now have a dad with a real job as opposed to an unshaved guy in a hoodie walking around in socks all day looking like a homeless man.

LOL! This is the J1, J2, J3… clown.

Or it might be don't hire women of childbearing age man. I don't see how you go into the office 5 days with 3 jobs.

I only have two jobs now!! I did RTO on the highest paying one. I quit the middle paying one. I kept my one WFH job.

My WFH job I attend two meetings each week at lunch timeI have it loaded on iPhone on the company meeting app and if I go through app same appearance as work laptop. Or do laptop in car with cellular hot spot with blurred background. My other biweekly meeting is 7am to 815 with Europe I do before work. I catch up late at night or Sunday morning. I work maybe 5-6 hours a week for $196k comp. My real job pays a lot more.

My j2 I ended paid $188k. That was like 5-6 hours a day WFH not worth it.


WFH is a joke. I do a full 8 hours in the office. Plus I get nice lunches, a big office, secretary, expense account, paid cell phone, staff to hang out with, off site board meetings at fancy hotels, fancy Xmas party, get to do business lunches.

So much better than my basement alone. Plus I save in person company like $400k today. My WFH would never do that as who cares

So you couldn't hack it WFH and posted on DCUM all day instead of working, and now you pathetically project your time-management and attention issues onto all WFH workers.

The perks you list above are stupid ego-feeding nonsense. You need to get therapy and some friends to hang out with besides staff. The secretary sounds helpful (administrative assistant you dinosaur), the rest is complete BS.

I still WFH. I just have an I. Person job too. I have amazing time mgt skills. I do a 200k WFH job (counting bonus) in one hour a day. Friday someone in US slacked me neither something, o tossed him to UK lady but damn UK lady off Monday but got a guy in Taiwan to do it Monday and send to UK lady who promised to check it Tuesday morning her time back to me for delivery at 9am Monday!!

[Anonymous]

I would think that between the ability to reduce the costs of running an office (real estate, janitorial and security services, utility costs) and what I imagine is a huge reduction in sexual harassment claims, hostile work environment claims etc most companies would embrace remote work. Unless absolutely necessary, in person work environments result in lower productivity and are rife with a lot of noise.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Cities threatening to get rid of tax breaks for companies if they don’t RTO, because apparently small businesses are suffering, downtowns are becoming ghost towns, CRE values are plummeting & public transportation is being crime-filled due to normies no longer taking it.

Public transit is doomed. After 3 years of hygiene obsession and isolation, cramming onto subway trains is just too traumatic for most people. If they are RTO for 3 days a week, they can drive the super commute for those 3 days and recover before the weekend. Still better than before times and train transit.

People are full on murdering each other on trains. Traffic is going to get really really bad, but more people will invest in AI cruise control and watch movies as their car creeps along following the car in front of it.

Not “most people”. The amount of riders on bus and metro still keeps going up and hasn’t leveled off. My most COVID careful friend started taking metro again, but still masks. Most people have also started flying again.

Nobody is wearing masks.

PP just told you about a person wearing a mask, and you respond by saying nobody is wearing a mask?

Yes, it's their way of communicating that people who are wearing masks aren't people within their definition of the term. It's an AH move.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am back in office five days a week. You can’t run out the door at end of hours with in person. The CEO, CFO, CIO, Sr Mgr, controller, HR are in person and often there early or late.

So my new schedule is leave for work 745 am get home 6:30 pm five days a week.

The last people home are slowly realizing unless you are over 63 the game will end in 1-3 years and will get let go perhaps in next recession.

At my job it is moms with young kids, people goofing off, folks near retirement pushing Back

What's going on here is that your company and mgmt sucks.

My mgt is great. I love it. My kids now have a dad with a real job as opposed to an unshaved guy in a hoodie walking around in socks all day looking like a homeless man.

LOL! This is the J1, J2, J3… clown.

Or it might be don't hire women of childbearing age man. I don't see how you go into the office 5 days with 3 jobs.

I only have two jobs now!! I did RTO on the highest paying one. I quit the middle paying one. I kept my one WFH job.

My WFH job I attend two meetings each week at lunch timeI have it loaded on iPhone on the company meeting app and if I go through app same appearance as work laptop. Or do laptop in car with cellular hot spot with blurred background. My other biweekly meeting is 7am to 815 with Europe I do before work. I catch up late at night or Sunday morning. I work maybe 5-6 hours a week for $196k comp. My real job pays a lot more.

My j2 I ended paid $188k. That was like 5-6 hours a day WFH not worth it.


WFH is a joke. I do a full 8 hours in the office. Plus I get nice lunches, a big office, secretary, expense account, paid cell phone, staff to hang out with, off site board meetings at fancy hotels, fancy Xmas party, get to do business lunches.

So much better than my basement alone. Plus I save in person company like $400k today. My WFH would never do that as who cares

So you couldn't hack it WFH and posted on DCUM all day instead of working, and now you pathetically project your time-management and attention issues onto all WFH workers.

The perks you list above are stupid ego-feeding nonsense. You need to get therapy and some friends to hang out with besides staff. The secretary sounds helpful (administrative assistant you dinosaur), the rest is complete BS.

I still WFH. I just have an I. Person job too. I have amazing time mgt skills. I do a 200k WFH job (counting bonus) in one hour a day. Friday someone in US slacked me neither something, o tossed him to UK lady but damn UK lady off Monday but got a guy in Taiwan to do it Monday and send to UK lady who promised to check it Tuesday morning her time back to me for delivery at 9am Monday!!

I’m embarrassed for you.

[Anonymous]

People fail to realize not everyone has a good home life.

I work with people in bad marriages, single people with small apartments with annoying roommates, lonely people who live alone, people no place to work at home, people with abusive spouses, young people who live at home with parents and so on and so on.

They were thrust into WFH against their will. It is unhealthy for their mental health to be home.

There has to be a balance between WFH and RTO outside of business reasons.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People fail to realize not everyone has a good home life.

I work with people in bad marriages, single people with small apartments with annoying roommates, lonely people who live alone, people no place to work at home, people with abusive spouses, young people who live at home with parents and so on and so on.

They were thrust into WFH against their will. It is unhealthy for their mental health to be home.

There has to be a balance between WFH and RTO outside of business reasons.

I “WFH” in coffee shops, parks & libraries.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People fail to realize not everyone has a good home life.

I work with people in bad marriages, single people with small apartments with annoying roommates, lonely people who live alone, people no place to work at home, people with abusive spouses, young people who live at home with parents and so on and so on.

They were thrust into WFH against their will. It is unhealthy for their mental health to be home.

There has to be a balance between WFH and RTO outside of business reasons.

I “WFH” in coffee shops, parks & libraries.

You really think someone with an abusive spouse could do that? I worked with women making breakfast, lunch and dinner and juggling child care while WFH with a husband at home.