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[Anonymous]

This entire project will be rescinded when people realize how badly it f***s up traffic. It will go the way of Smart Streets and countless other stupid transportation projects the public hated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This entire project will be rescinded when people realize how badly it f***s up traffic. It will go the way of Smart Streets and countless other stupid transportation projects the public hated.

Do you mean the lighting program Smart Street?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This entire project will be rescinded when people realize how badly it f***s up traffic. It will go the way of Smart Streets and countless other stupid transportation projects the public hated.

Do you mean the lighting program Smart Street?

PP here. Sorry, meant Slow Streets. Was a problem where they were closing streets around the city to all but local car traffic. It was supposed to promote biking and walking, but people just thought it was annoying and they got rid of it surprisingly quickly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This entire project will be rescinded when people realize how badly it f***s up traffic. It will go the way of Smart Streets and countless other stupid transportation projects the public hated.

Do you mean the lighting program Smart Street?

PP here. Sorry, meant Slow Streets. Was a problem where they were closing streets around the city to all but local car traffic. It was supposed to promote biking and walking, but people just thought it was annoying and they got rid of it surprisingly quickly.

Wasn't Slow Streets meant to be a pilot? The fact that the temporary barriers were mostly removed (CP service lane being the only exception in Ward 3 I can think of) seems to indicate that the pilot did what it was supposed to do - test.

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Anonymous wrote:There was no mandate on the Conn Ave bike lanes - In the contested ANC3C races, bike go slow/bike critical candidates either won or came close. Sauleh was almost defeated.

None of them were weighted down with a party affiliation, so they outperformed Krucoff by about 30 points. Frumin's bike support was nuanced, wants to hear everybody out and make accommodations "where possible".

Disagree. The olny race the anti-bike lane people won was Rick Nash. It doesn't matter that Sauleh's race was close, he won. So when people like you say "everyone is opposed to the bike lanes" it simply isn't true, and in fact, all of the ANC's on CT Ave still maintain a pro-bike lane majority. Frumin's bike support wasn't nuanced. He and every Dem candidate in the primary supported the bike lanes and nothing has changed. The Mayor and DDOT are moving forward with them, and there i nothing politically that will stop it.

So how about we cease with the divisive languages and the false petitions that create empty hope for something that was never going to happen?

It’s you who is divisive. You refuse to acknowledge or give legitimacy to those who aren’t 100% on board with the bike lanes. The fact that the contested races, including Sauleh’s, were so close DOES matter, and if the ANC reps are representing all of their constituents, not just those who voted for them, they won’t be dismissive. Sauleh squeaked by and his victory shouldn’t be viewed as handing him a mandate. I hope he sees that.

This. The lesson for Siddiqui after his close race is that he needs to listen more to his constituents and find consensus solutions that work for more stakeholders.

There are bike lanes, or there are not bike lanes. The anti-bike lane folks put up a candidate who lost. Do you think if Nike Ide had won, that the pro-bike lane people would be expecting a consensus opinion from him that included bike lane support? Get real.

Do you think republicans who lost the senate expect democrats to suddenly adopt a pro-life, anti-abortion stance?

The election was about so much more than bike lanes. Stop trying to spin it as some statement about bike lanes.

Certain ANC races were all about bike lanes and nothing else. The pro-bike lane people won almost all of those races.
In the council race, the precincts with the pro-bike lane candidate fared better for that candidate, by 3-4 points, than other precincts around the Ward.


IOW, there is absolutely no mandate to discontinue the effort to get bike lanes installed. The Mayor supports it, the Councilmember and Councilmember elect both support it, and the majority of current and incoming ANC commissioners in 3C, 3F, and 3/4G all support it.

Which ANC races were “all about bike lanes and nothing else”?

[Anonymous]

Virtually every contested race in 3C, 3F and 3/4G.

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Anonymous wrote:Virtually every contested race in 3C, 3F and 3/4G.

The Connecticut Avenue bike lanes are so popular that in at least four races only bike lane supporters were running against each other (3C06, 3C07, 3F05, 3/4G05).

[Anonymous]

Exactly.

the fact is, the opponents of the bike lanes tried to make this a political issue at the Council and ANC level and have proven that their view is a deep minority opinion.

And, despite that, the continue to posture on the neighborhood email groups that somehow, the decision is still in play, rather than being constructive to help make the bike lanes and the redesign of Connecticut Avenue, be as good as it can be.

It is an incredible waste of time and resources and very divisive for the community.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Exactly.

the fact is, the opponents of the bike lanes tried to make this a political issue at the Council and ANC level and have proven that their view is a deep minority opinion.

And, despite that, the continue to posture on the neighborhood email groups that somehow, the decision is still in play, rather than being constructive to help make the bike lanes and the redesign of Connecticut Avenue, be as good as it can be.

It is an incredible waste of time and resources and very divisive for the community.

the bike lane issue is also derailing a lot of threads on neighborhood llstservs and multiple threads here because a small handful of people opposed to the bike lanes refuse to accept that the bike lanes are coming and the best way to have a say in how their put in is not by tilting at windmills, but by constructively engaging.

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly.

the fact is, the opponents of the bike lanes tried to make this a political issue at the Council and ANC level and have proven that their view is a deep minority opinion.

And, despite that, the continue to posture on the neighborhood email groups that somehow, the decision is still in play, rather than being constructive to help make the bike lanes and the redesign of Connecticut Avenue, be as good as it can be.

It is an incredible waste of time and resources and very divisive for the community.

the bike lane issue is also derailing a lot of threads on neighborhood llstservs and multiple threads here because a small handful of people opposed to the bike lanes refuse to accept that the bike lanes are coming and the best way to have a say in how their put in is not by tilting at windmills, but by constructively engaging.

It's quite clear that it is not a small handful of people and that their concerns are legitimate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly.

the fact is, the opponents of the bike lanes tried to make this a political issue at the Council and ANC level and have proven that their view is a deep minority opinion.

And, despite that, the continue to posture on the neighborhood email groups that somehow, the decision is still in play, rather than being constructive to help make the bike lanes and the redesign of Connecticut Avenue, be as good as it can be.

It is an incredible waste of time and resources and very divisive for the community.

the bike lane issue is also derailing a lot of threads on neighborhood llstservs and multiple threads here because a small handful of people opposed to the bike lanes refuse to accept that the bike lanes are coming and the best way to have a say in how their put in is not by tilting at windmills, but by constructively engaging.

It's quite clear that it is not a small handful of people and that their concerns are legitimate.

It's the same two people over and over and over and over on the CP listserv. It's the same person over and over and over on the Chevy Chase listserv.

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly.

the fact is, the opponents of the bike lanes tried to make this a political issue at the Council and ANC level and have proven that their view is a deep minority opinion.

And, despite that, the continue to posture on the neighborhood email groups that somehow, the decision is still in play, rather than being constructive to help make the bike lanes and the redesign of Connecticut Avenue, be as good as it can be.

It is an incredible waste of time and resources and very divisive for the community.

the bike lane issue is also derailing a lot of threads on neighborhood llstservs and multiple threads here because a small handful of people opposed to the bike lanes refuse to accept that the bike lanes are coming and the best way to have a say in how their put in is not by tilting at windmills, but by constructively engaging.

It's quite clear that it is not a small handful of people and that their concerns are legitimate.

It's the same two people over and over and over and over on the CP listserv. It's the same person over and over and over on the Chevy Chase listserv.

This. The moderators of both email lists censor proponents, for the most part, so the perception is skewed for those readers.

[Anonymous]

There are 80,000+ people in Ward 3. How many do you actually think have heard what will happen to Connecticut Ave? 1000? 2000? 3000? Not many.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly.

the fact is, the opponents of the bike lanes tried to make this a political issue at the Council and ANC level and have proven that their view is a deep minority opinion.

And, despite that, the continue to posture on the neighborhood email groups that somehow, the decision is still in play, rather than being constructive to help make the bike lanes and the redesign of Connecticut Avenue, be as good as it can be.

It is an incredible waste of time and resources and very divisive for the community.

the bike lane issue is also derailing a lot of threads on neighborhood llstservs and multiple threads here because a small handful of people opposed to the bike lanes refuse to accept that the bike lanes are coming and the best way to have a say in how their put in is not by tilting at windmills, but by constructively engaging.

It's quite clear that it is not a small handful of people and that their concerns are legitimate.

It's the same two people over and over and over and over on the CP listserv. It's the same person over and over and over on the Chevy Chase listserv.

This. The moderators of both email lists censor proponents, for the most part, so the perception is skewed for those readers.

Of course they do. How else could it be explained.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are 80,000+ people in Ward 3. How many do you actually think have heard what will happen to Connecticut Ave? 1000? 2000? 3000? Not many.

If you look at the precinct counts for the voters who live closest to Connecticut Avenue, Frumin actually outperformed his returns in other areas of the Ward. Given the bike lanes were the primary focus of Frumin's opponent, and given the discussion on the neighborhood email lists, one would conclude that if they were a major issue, Krucoff would have done better in those areas. That he actually did worse is quite instructive.