Ding dong ditching and cops brought home

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Anonymous wrote:^and I wouldn’t think anything of them going out at 10pm. It wouldn’t occur to me they would ding dong ditch.


The the PP. I would. What would they possibly be up to at 10 pm outside that isn’t trouble? I wouldn’t allow it. If they want to hang out outside at 10pm, they can stay on the patio and around the yard. Not roam around the neighborhood


OP here. I guess in my mind walking to the park (basically a small little pocket park) half a block a way at 10 pm is not roaming. Again, it is on me for thinking they would just do that and I should have kept a closer watch. I will be honest and say that I tend to approach things like this from a POV of letting kids feel some sense of freedom and fun rather than one of constant suspicion. These kids didn't warrant concern in that way. That is on me, yes. Honestly, I was just glad they were not cooped up in his room gaming. Now I know better.


I'm in my 50s and was, as were all my friends, free range kids. My parents had no idea where I was during the day. Yet, the rule for us and all the kids I hung out with were that we had to be home by dark. In the summer time where I grew up, that was about 9PM. Just why do you think that was? Even in the 'good old days', our parents knew nothing good came of young teens being out after dark. I can't believe your naiveté and poor judgment.


80s kid. We always had to be home when the street lights came on.

This has zero to do with free range parenting.


How did you hunt for nightcrawlers before dark? How did you catch lightning bugs before dark?


Lightning bugs are best caught at dusk and worms in the morning after rain.


Not nightcrawlers.

How about flashlight tag?


These kids weren’t playing flashlight tag. And they’re almost in high school. If your teenage son and his friends say they’re heading out to play flashlight tag after the adults go to bed, I have a bridge to sell you.


Our kids play man hunt, capture the flag, hunt for night crawlers, flashlight tag, hide and seek… etc at night.

Y’all are insane helicopter parents.

And really if they are kissing at the park or ding dong ditching I’m not going to lose my sh!t because it’s age appropriate.

Yes they are almost in HS, next year they will be going to parties and football games and dinner after dark and I won’t be able to track their every move.


It’s not helicopter parenting to have basic respect for your neighbors, and all of those nighttime activities you described can be done on your own property. This “age appropriate” line of argument falls flat - it’s rude behavior and it’s not justified just because they are boys.


Yes, it's rude behavior. Kids try out rude behavior sometimes. Do you think with perfect parenting children behave perfectly until they're adults? The answer is NO. Growing up is a process. It's normal.


You and others don't seem to understand that there's a difference between "normal" or common and appropriate or acceptable. Just because pre-teen boys are generally idiots doesn't mean that behavior like this should be waved off with a "boys will be boys". It's okay to condemn the commonplace.


Nobody said it’s boys will be boys. It’s kids do stupid things. I’m sure girls ding dong ditch too when they are not playing spin the bottle.


DP. The behavior should be addressed by the parents, and not waved off with a “kids do stupid things” either. It’s rude, full stop, and like the police have said, can have dangerous consequences if you do it to the wrong person.


Yes, it's rude. If it weren't rude, there would be no point in doing it. Were you born 45 years old?


NP but a good prank isn't rude. It's funny. If it's just being rude to someone, what is funny about that? Even as a teenager I didn't see the fun in just being rude to someone for no reason. Where is the punchline, it sounds like the teens don't even wait to see if the poor person opens their door or not. So they literally just run up and down the street bothering everyone at 10pm, just for the pleasure of the internal knowledge that they've scared/ woken up/ bothered their neighbors? Think of how upset someone must have been to have called the POLICE. Now think of how low key upset many , many other people were but not to the point of alerting the police. Did they call the cops because they wanted the kids to get in trouble for prankign them? Did they call the cops because they thought someone was trying to break into their home? Who knows. But most likely it was the latter, and just sit for a moment and think how NOT harmless it is to scare someone like that. It's beyond rude.


It's funny to them because it's rude. Farting is also rude and isn't funny to adults but it is to young children. Lighten up.


If a teenager farted near me and ran away, I'd think they were immature but harmless. Not the same for a teenager approaching my home at 10pm and knocking on my door with a group of other teenage male friends. In many, many areas of our country that sort of thing sets of massive alarm bells for a gang of young men luring people out of their homes to assault or rob them, or casing the home for a break in, etc etc. And if your "kids" are too privileged to realize that, then they need a wakeup call before they pretend to break into the wrong person's home at 10pm as a "harmless prank"


You need to get a more complicated life, so your outrage will make a bit more sense. What a waste.


This made me laugh because of the complexity of my life right now.

I'd argue that your life must be pretty vanilla to think that there's no way a bunch of teenage boys banging on doors after 10pm could be scary or harmful. Like what kind of world have you lived in to where groups of roaming young men after dark, trespassing on property that isn't theirs, solely for to cause trouble, is just a harmless prank?


99.99999999999% of the time a ding dong ditch is a harmless prank.

You clearly have some mental heath issues, I’m sorry! Thoughts and prayers.


Look, I am sure we are going to agree to disagree here, but judging by the number of people who have vocalized that 1) yes, 10pm is too late for them to want their doorbell rung as part of a prank, 2) they'd be scared or anxious about a group of teenage guys sneaking around their yard after dark, 3) they don't think this is a funny prank to do to strangers, you surely know that at best the opinion is split on whether or not this is a funny, cute thing for a bunch of 14 year old dudes to be up to at nighttime. You might not mind it , but you see now that many others would mind it for a variety of reasons. I hope that's enough to discourage your own kids from pranking their unknown neighbors in the middle of the night. Not because they might get shot- although they might!- but because it's mean.
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Harmless prank = nobody is harmed. Like the example of calling your friend's house in the afternoon and asking if their refrigerator is running. Or putting toilet paper around the tree of a girl you have a crush on.

Not harmless prank = somebody is harmed, even if that harm is just being briefly frightened or inconvenienced or woke up from sleep before a day of work. Now, to do one of these types of pranks on a complete stranger at 10pm- that's no longer funny.
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Anonymous wrote:How could they possibly know that they run the chance of getting shot? Which of course is still a very tiny minuscule risk of the stupid prank. This is not worthy of punishment, this is worthy of a conversation about why they can’t do this.


If the kids were black, they would know about Tamir Rice, who was shot and killed at the age of 12 in broad daylight, while playing in a park with a toy gun by a cop who saw him from far away through his window and decided it was a real gun. Add darkness and approaching multiple strangers' property to the equation, and you have a mess of dead kids.
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Anonymous wrote:How could they possibly know that they run the chance of getting shot? Which of course is still a very tiny minuscule risk of the stupid prank. This is not worthy of punishment, this is worthy of a conversation about why they can’t do this.


If the kids were black, they would know about Tamir Rice, who was shot and killed at the age of 12 in broad daylight, while playing in a park with a toy gun by a cop who saw him from far away through his window and decided it was a real gun. Add darkness and approaching multiple strangers' property to the equation, and you have a mess of dead kids.


Or they'd know about Trayvon Martin, who was just walking down the sidewalk in a gated community
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Anonymous wrote:Wow. I went to bed with no responses and now this.

Op here obviously.

I agree that the cops arriving with them at my house was the best outcome in terms of teaching them a lesson. They also needed to hear from them the danger of what they were doing at 10 pm at night. There are definitely people in this community who would meet this incident by bringing a gun to the door if not worse. Most of the kids were white but one friend is black and yes my heart was in my throat thinking about it. He is the one most concerned about wanting to tell his mom himself. I can imagine.

Yes I knew they went to the park and I was ok with it. These kids are 13. It's safe. It is on me that I underestimated their poor decision-making skills.

I will definitely let the parents know after the kids have a chance to speak to them. If I had called them all and sent them home they would have been more upset at me than their kids at that point. The cops were not mad, they were mainly concerned for the kids' safety. Which is crazy but totally realistic.


This isn't about you and your desire to deflect blame from yourself. If my kid were being supervised by you and were brought home by the police, I would be livid that you kept that from me for a day.
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Anonymous wrote:How could they possibly know that they run the chance of getting shot? Which of course is still a very tiny minuscule risk of the stupid prank. This is not worthy of punishment, this is worthy of a conversation about why they can’t do this.


If the kids were black, they would know about Tamir Rice, who was shot and killed at the age of 12 in broad daylight, while playing in a park with a toy gun by a cop who saw him from far away through his window and decided it was a real gun. Add darkness and approaching multiple strangers' property to the equation, and you have a mess of dead kids.


Or they'd know about Trayvon Martin, who was just walking down the sidewalk in a gated community


Never heard of her.
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The cops brought home a group of kids who were…..walking around? Does your area have a teen curfew? What law were they breaking?


This.

Is there anything actually illegal happening here?

I'm not going to argue that this was a "nice" or "neighborly" thing to do, but it seems pretty harmless.


They weren’t charged with doing anything illegal.


Emden of its not illegal its stupid. Like the police said people have guns and will use them. Right canderas are everywhere. It's not like the old days where you can set off cherry bombs at the park.


It’s not stupid. It’s nasty. They’re waking up kids, the elderly, people who are trying to get some decent sleep for an early morning at work. Where is the empathy?


Fine. It's nasty (in your mind, but we'll go with that). Still not illegal, and calling the police (or pulling a gun!!) is absurd.


Nope. Calling the police was not absurd. Hopefully at least some of these boys have remotely competent parents and will face consequences that will make it unpalatable to do it again in the future.
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Anonymous wrote:How could they possibly know that they run the chance of getting shot? Which of course is still a very tiny minuscule risk of the stupid prank. This is not worthy of punishment, this is worthy of a conversation about why they can’t do this.


If the kids were black, they would know about Tamir Rice, who was shot and killed at the age of 12 in broad daylight, while playing in a park with a toy gun by a cop who saw him from far away through his window and decided it was a real gun. Add darkness and approaching multiple strangers' property to the equation, and you have a mess of dead kids.


Or they'd know about Trayvon Martin, who was just walking down the sidewalk in a gated community


Never heard of her.


Trayvon was a him. Sorry you're so ignorant and don't read the newspaper, as it was big news for more than a year.
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Anonymous wrote:Those poor kids. That was normal behavior when I was a kid, and we did it all the time. No one answers their doorbells anymore, but still...


I never ran the neighborhood at 10 pm and I never rang people’s doorbells and ran. And I don’t know any kids who did. We did do prank calls via the telephone though.


Prude!


Overgrown child!
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The cops brought home a group of kids who were…..walking around? Does your area have a teen curfew? What law were they breaking?


This.

Is there anything actually illegal happening here?

I'm not going to argue that this was a "nice" or "neighborly" thing to do, but it seems pretty harmless.


They weren’t charged with doing anything illegal.


Emden of its not illegal its stupid. Like the police said people have guns and will use them. Right canderas are everywhere. It's not like the old days where you can set off cherry bombs at the park.


It’s not stupid. It’s nasty. They’re waking up kids, the elderly, people who are trying to get some decent sleep for an early morning at work. Where is the empathy?


Fine. It's nasty (in your mind, but we'll go with that). Still not illegal, and calling the police (or pulling a gun!!) is absurd.


It is illegal, which is the part that is absurd.


A ding dong ditch is illegal? OK. Can I get a cite for that, please?

We're gonna need a lockup around Halloween for all the elementary schoolers in my neighborhood.


If only you were intelligent enough to understand the difference. Alas.
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Anonymous wrote:I would be glad that the kids weren't laying in the basement hooked to a violent video game. They got some exercise and created an activity. Well done.


Grow so very much up.
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Anonymous wrote:I think it’s crazy that the police brought them home. I don’t think this is nearly the big deal people are making it out to be, other than going to the park at 10 was a dumb idea.


This. It's overzealous policing. Police stopped and picked up kids for walking around? That's ridiculous. What law was broken? Even the ding dong ditch - someone called the cops? Because of . . . why exactly?

That said, even though it was an overreaction, because the police were involved you need to let the other parents know immediately.

And where do you live, OP, that people would open fire because of this?

As an aside, the kids obviously are white, because otherwise we'd be reading about this in the paper, and a few of them would be dead.



Totally agree with everything here. We did far worse things in middle and high school and we all turned out to be well functioning and law abiding adults.
Is ding, dong, ditch a crime in some jurisdictions?

Also, remind your kids that a lot of people have Ring doorbells so they are likely going to get caught.


Yes. Probably not in OP’s since the kids weren’t charged, but it is illegal in some areas.


What is the crime, exactly?


Since your Google is apparently broke, here, let me help you.

https://www.guidelinelaw.com/is-ding-dong-ditching-illegal/
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Anonymous wrote:I think it’s crazy that the police brought them home. I don’t think this is nearly the big deal people are making it out to be, other than going to the park at 10 was a dumb idea.


This. It's overzealous policing. Police stopped and picked up kids for walking around? That's ridiculous. What law was broken? Even the ding dong ditch - someone called the cops? Because of . . . why exactly?

That said, even though it was an overreaction, because the police were involved you need to let the other parents know immediately.

And where do you live, OP, that people would open fire because of this?

As an aside, the kids obviously are white, because otherwise we'd be reading about this in the paper, and a few of them would be dead.



Totally agree with everything here. We did far worse things in middle and high school and we all turned out to be well functioning and law abiding adults.
Is ding, dong, ditch a crime in some jurisdictions?

Also, remind your kids that a lot of people have Ring doorbells so they are likely going to get caught.


Yes. Probably not in OP’s since the kids weren’t charged, but it is illegal in some areas.


What is the crime, exactly?


Since your Google is apparently broke, here, let me help you.

https://www.guidelinelaw.com/is-ding-dong-ditching-illegal/

+1 There are tons of irate posts on DCUM about noisy neighbors, noisy lawncare companies and barking dogs and roosters crowing that disturb sleep and how that's illegal and you can call the police and report your neighbor for violating the local noise ordinances if these noises occur after hours or early in the AM. Same for ding dong ditch at 10 p.m. You're messing with people's sleep at 10 p.m. And you're looking like an idiot, because ringing someone's doorbell and running away is something that only someone with an IQ of 12 would think is funny.
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Anonymous wrote:All this prank call stuff made me think back to my day. We totally prank called people. But it was during the day, and it was usually people we knew. And it was like, obviously a prank like “is your refrigerator running?” nonsense.

But once my mom got a call and it was a male voice asking how her husband was doing “after that terrible accident”. My mom was like what?? And the person laughed and hung up. My mom spent time calling my dads work, eventually pulling him out of a meeting (this is all pre cell phone) to make sure he was ok. She was in tears.

There are pranks and there are pranks. Seven year olds knocking on a door at 2pm and then giggling and running off, that you can see through your window, to someone they know like a friends mom, ok. Fine. Fourteen year olds to unknown houses , in a pack, in the middle of the night ? No. And don’t pretend you don’t see the difference between these two “pranks”.


I see the difference: a seven year old wouldn't do that. A 14 year old would. It's normal, age-appropriate behavior.


Sorry but trying to frighten strangers sleeping in their homes at nighttime with a gang of your friends isn’t normal age appropriate behavior.


They were asleep at 10 pm? At 2 am I would be pissed, but come on, at 10 pm they were watching TV. No doubt they went to the door, saw no one was there, looked at their camera footage and thought, "We've been pranked." Not that big of a deal for a normal person.


Yes, plenty of people get up for work extremely early and are in bed before 10. Kids, including young kids who are murder for exhausted parents to get to sleep, are asleep. Enough with the stupid excuses. Boyswillbeboys, amirite?
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Anonymous wrote:I think it’s crazy that the police brought them home. I don’t think this is nearly the big deal people are making it out to be, other than going to the park at 10 was a dumb idea.


This. It's overzealous policing. Police stopped and picked up kids for walking around? That's ridiculous. What law was broken? Even the ding dong ditch - someone called the cops? Because of . . . why exactly?

That said, even though it was an overreaction, because the police were involved you need to let the other parents know immediately.

And where do you live, OP, that people would open fire because of this?

As an aside, the kids obviously are white, because otherwise we'd be reading about this in the paper, and a few of them would be dead.



Totally agree with everything here. We did far worse things in middle and high school and we all turned out to be well functioning and law abiding adults.
Is ding, dong, ditch a crime in some jurisdictions?

Also, remind your kids that a lot of people have Ring doorbells so they are likely going to get caught.


Yes. Probably not in OP’s since the kids weren’t charged, but it is illegal in some areas.


What is the crime, exactly?


Since your Google is apparently broke, here, let me help you.

https://www.guidelinelaw.com/is-ding-dong-ditching-illegal/





https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ding-dong-ditch-leads-to-charges-for-homeowner/
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