Chances of mask mandate in school in the fall ?

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Anonymous wrote:The kids were way more affected by lack of teachers, constant subs, and shuffled into auditoriums not learning anything than virtual. You’re just lying to yourself if you think any differently.


??? Okay, fortunately you're just a message board whiner not in charge of anything. See you in school (or not) in two weeks.


Lol… as if that post was making a case for virtual. It wasn’t but apparently you can’t comprehend and read between the lines. Virtual wasn’t great but what happened in January was even worse. The fact that people refuse to understand this is baffling and it basically proves the point that people who claim to care about education just really care about someone else babysitting their kids. They learned close to nothing in those weeks (but they got to see people so it’s better!) most kids straight up ditched.

100%-absolutely they want the school to be a free babysitter.


For many folks this is an absolute reality. Will you be making a real point soon?


First, you make a real point. School is not an never has been a babysitter.


The way that you characterize it as babysitting for all those who need to provide for their families is just foolish. It's just message board nonsense that means nothing. You make no legitimate point. You're hopeless and irrelevant to any real conversation.


Ironically, you said that “many folks” use it as a babysitter so you characterized it as such.


That's not irony. And yes, one of the inherent functions of school that's woven into how our society is constructed is childcare.


Np. I am a teacher and an educator. I am not a babysitter and am tired of your disrespectful posts lowering us to such level. School was not “constructed” to serve as childcare. Hire a nanny for your babysitting needs.


You also serve the function of childcare. Maybe you don't want that responsibility, but it's yours.


Or, maybe you don't want the responsibility of your kids. That is the bigger issue.


It's really not. Kids get dropped off, kids get taken care of. MCPS does a pretty good job of that.


It depends on the child and school but some of us want education not child care. We can take responsibility for our own kids.

And if your child has a medical emergency at school? They should say well we don’t provide child care so we will call mom and let her know *shrug*, she’s responsible for her child’s care after all. Do you all engage in any critical thinking before you make these arguments?


Yes, as a matter of fact, they do call the parent in a medical emergency. Hence, not a babysitter.

Are you really this unintelligent? You actually think that if a kid has a medical emergency at school that they do nothing other than call mom?


Dp. Interesting enough, my child did have a medical emergency and the school did just call me. Schools are not for medical emergencies and to rely fully on them for that is pollyannaish.


??? The school called you, yes? They cared for your child by taking them from the classroom and facilitating that communication?


Nope, was left to walk alone to office after falling and knocked unconscious and was diagnosed with a concussion later that day. Ambulance should have been called. So you are dead wrong.


The school called you, yes?


No honey, my child did and you are despicable to think that the school did enough for a child who went unconscious.


So when you previously wrote "and the school did just call me", you were misrepresenting the situation then or now?


Soooo misrepresenting, contact a lawyer and sue me. I can get you some contacts.
My child called using the schools phone, but you seem to think that if the secretary did the calling, then that’s sufficient care.
You are vile.



I've not commented on the quality of the care. I have said that one of the roles that a school plays is childcare. You have described them as having providing poor childcare. You have merely supported the point being discussed here.
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Anonymous wrote:The kids were way more affected by lack of teachers, constant subs, and shuffled into auditoriums not learning anything than virtual. You’re just lying to yourself if you think any differently.


??? Okay, fortunately you're just a message board whiner not in charge of anything. See you in school (or not) in two weeks.


Lol… as if that post was making a case for virtual. It wasn’t but apparently you can’t comprehend and read between the lines. Virtual wasn’t great but what happened in January was even worse. The fact that people refuse to understand this is baffling and it basically proves the point that people who claim to care about education just really care about someone else babysitting their kids. They learned close to nothing in those weeks (but they got to see people so it’s better!) most kids straight up ditched.

100%-absolutely they want the school to be a free babysitter.


For many folks this is an absolute reality. Will you be making a real point soon?


First, you make a real point. School is not an never has been a babysitter.


The way that you characterize it as babysitting for all those who need to provide for their families is just foolish. It's just message board nonsense that means nothing. You make no legitimate point. You're hopeless and irrelevant to any real conversation.


Ironically, you said that “many folks” use it as a babysitter so you characterized it as such.


That's not irony. And yes, one of the inherent functions of school that's woven into how our society is constructed is childcare.


Np. I am a teacher and an educator. I am not a babysitter and am tired of your disrespectful posts lowering us to such level. School was not “constructed” to serve as childcare. Hire a nanny for your babysitting needs.


You also serve the function of childcare. Maybe you don't want that responsibility, but it's yours.


Or, maybe you don't want the responsibility of your kids. That is the bigger issue.


It's really not. Kids get dropped off, kids get taken care of. MCPS does a pretty good job of that.


It depends on the child and school but some of us want education not child care. We can take responsibility for our own kids.

And if your child has a medical emergency at school? They should say well we don’t provide child care so we will call mom and let her know *shrug*, she’s responsible for her child’s care after all. Do you all engage in any critical thinking before you make these arguments?


Yes, as a matter of fact, they do call the parent in a medical emergency. Hence, not a babysitter.

Are you really this unintelligent? You actually think that if a kid has a medical emergency at school that they do nothing other than call mom?


Dp. Interesting enough, my child did have a medical emergency and the school did just call me. Schools are not for medical emergencies and to rely fully on them for that is pollyannaish.


??? The school called you, yes? They cared for your child by taking them from the classroom and facilitating that communication?


Nope, was left to walk alone to office after falling and knocked unconscious and was diagnosed with a concussion later that day. Ambulance should have been called. So you are dead wrong.


The school called you, yes?


Dp-you are gross. Is that all you would do for a child in your care who this happened to? Are you insane?


You've completely missed the point. Not surprising. The issue isn't "did the school do enough?" The point is that the school has responsibility for childcare, and they had responsibility in this case. Did they do enough? Sounds like no, so they provided poor childcare. If anything, you guys are actually just proving the point about one of the functions a school plays.


You’re missing the point that school is not a childcare provider as much as you fantasize. You parents just want your children out of your hair. Simple as that.


That's your closing argument? Really?


Not the pp, but it doesn’t get much simpler than that, so I would say it doesn’t need to be a complex closing argument. Parent do want kids out of their hair. Simple.
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Anonymous wrote:The kids were way more affected by lack of teachers, constant subs, and shuffled into auditoriums not learning anything than virtual. You’re just lying to yourself if you think any differently.


??? Okay, fortunately you're just a message board whiner not in charge of anything. See you in school (or not) in two weeks.


Lol… as if that post was making a case for virtual. It wasn’t but apparently you can’t comprehend and read between the lines. Virtual wasn’t great but what happened in January was even worse. The fact that people refuse to understand this is baffling and it basically proves the point that people who claim to care about education just really care about someone else babysitting their kids. They learned close to nothing in those weeks (but they got to see people so it’s better!) most kids straight up ditched.

100%-absolutely they want the school to be a free babysitter.


For many folks this is an absolute reality. Will you be making a real point soon?


First, you make a real point. School is not an never has been a babysitter.


The way that you characterize it as babysitting for all those who need to provide for their families is just foolish. It's just message board nonsense that means nothing. You make no legitimate point. You're hopeless and irrelevant to any real conversation.


Ironically, you said that “many folks” use it as a babysitter so you characterized it as such.


That's not irony. And yes, one of the inherent functions of school that's woven into how our society is constructed is childcare.


Np. I am a teacher and an educator. I am not a babysitter and am tired of your disrespectful posts lowering us to such level. School was not “constructed” to serve as childcare. Hire a nanny for your babysitting needs.


You also serve the function of childcare. Maybe you don't want that responsibility, but it's yours.


Or, maybe you don't want the responsibility of your kids. That is the bigger issue.


It's really not. Kids get dropped off, kids get taken care of. MCPS does a pretty good job of that.


It depends on the child and school but some of us want education not child care. We can take responsibility for our own kids.

And if your child has a medical emergency at school? They should say well we don’t provide child care so we will call mom and let her know *shrug*, she’s responsible for her child’s care after all. Do you all engage in any critical thinking before you make these arguments?


Yes, as a matter of fact, they do call the parent in a medical emergency. Hence, not a babysitter.

Are you really this unintelligent? You actually think that if a kid has a medical emergency at school that they do nothing other than call mom?


Dp. Interesting enough, my child did have a medical emergency and the school did just call me. Schools are not for medical emergencies and to rely fully on them for that is pollyannaish.


??? The school called you, yes? They cared for your child by taking them from the classroom and facilitating that communication?


Nope, was left to walk alone to office after falling and knocked unconscious and was diagnosed with a concussion later that day. Ambulance should have been called. So you are dead wrong.


The school called you, yes?


Dp-you are gross. Is that all you would do for a child in your care who this happened to? Are you insane?


You've completely missed the point. Not surprising. The issue isn't "did the school do enough?" The point is that the school has responsibility for childcare, and they had responsibility in this case. Did they do enough? Sounds like no, so they provided poor childcare. If anything, you guys are actually just proving the point about one of the functions a school plays.


You’re missing the point that school is not a childcare provider as much as you fantasize. You parents just want your children out of your hair. Simple as that.

Please explain how an ES is not also providing child care.
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Anonymous wrote:The kids were way more affected by lack of teachers, constant subs, and shuffled into auditoriums not learning anything than virtual. You’re just lying to yourself if you think any differently.


??? Okay, fortunately you're just a message board whiner not in charge of anything. See you in school (or not) in two weeks.


Lol… as if that post was making a case for virtual. It wasn’t but apparently you can’t comprehend and read between the lines. Virtual wasn’t great but what happened in January was even worse. The fact that people refuse to understand this is baffling and it basically proves the point that people who claim to care about education just really care about someone else babysitting their kids. They learned close to nothing in those weeks (but they got to see people so it’s better!) most kids straight up ditched.

100%-absolutely they want the school to be a free babysitter.


For many folks this is an absolute reality. Will you be making a real point soon?


First, you make a real point. School is not an never has been a babysitter.


The way that you characterize it as babysitting for all those who need to provide for their families is just foolish. It's just message board nonsense that means nothing. You make no legitimate point. You're hopeless and irrelevant to any real conversation.


Ironically, you said that “many folks” use it as a babysitter so you characterized it as such.


That's not irony. And yes, one of the inherent functions of school that's woven into how our society is constructed is childcare.


Np. I am a teacher and an educator. I am not a babysitter and am tired of your disrespectful posts lowering us to such level. School was not “constructed” to serve as childcare. Hire a nanny for your babysitting needs.


You also serve the function of childcare. Maybe you don't want that responsibility, but it's yours.


Or, maybe you don't want the responsibility of your kids. That is the bigger issue.


It's really not. Kids get dropped off, kids get taken care of. MCPS does a pretty good job of that.


It depends on the child and school but some of us want education not child care. We can take responsibility for our own kids.

And if your child has a medical emergency at school? They should say well we don’t provide child care so we will call mom and let her know *shrug*, she’s responsible for her child’s care after all. Do you all engage in any critical thinking before you make these arguments?


Yes, as a matter of fact, they do call the parent in a medical emergency. Hence, not a babysitter.

Are you really this unintelligent? You actually think that if a kid has a medical emergency at school that they do nothing other than call mom?


Dp. Interesting enough, my child did have a medical emergency and the school did just call me. Schools are not for medical emergencies and to rely fully on them for that is pollyannaish.


??? The school called you, yes? They cared for your child by taking them from the classroom and facilitating that communication?


Nope, was left to walk alone to office after falling and knocked unconscious and was diagnosed with a concussion later that day. Ambulance should have been called. So you are dead wrong.


The school called you, yes?


Dp-you are gross. Is that all you would do for a child in your care who this happened to? Are you insane?


You've completely missed the point. Not surprising. The issue isn't "did the school do enough?" The point is that the school has responsibility for childcare, and they had responsibility in this case. Did they do enough? Sounds like no, so they provided poor childcare. If anything, you guys are actually just proving the point about one of the functions a school plays.


You’re missing the point that school is not a childcare provider as much as you fantasize. You parents just want your children out of your hair. Simple as that.


That's your closing argument? Really?


Not the pp, but it doesn’t get much simpler than that, so I would say it doesn’t need to be a complex closing argument. Parent do want kids out of their hair. Simple.


So schools aren't responsible for childcare because parents want kids out of their hair. Bravo.
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Anonymous wrote:The kids were way more affected by lack of teachers, constant subs, and shuffled into auditoriums not learning anything than virtual. You’re just lying to yourself if you think any differently.


??? Okay, fortunately you're just a message board whiner not in charge of anything. See you in school (or not) in two weeks.


Lol… as if that post was making a case for virtual. It wasn’t but apparently you can’t comprehend and read between the lines. Virtual wasn’t great but what happened in January was even worse. The fact that people refuse to understand this is baffling and it basically proves the point that people who claim to care about education just really care about someone else babysitting their kids. They learned close to nothing in those weeks (but they got to see people so it’s better!) most kids straight up ditched.

100%-absolutely they want the school to be a free babysitter.


For many folks this is an absolute reality. Will you be making a real point soon?


First, you make a real point. School is not an never has been a babysitter.


The way that you characterize it as babysitting for all those who need to provide for their families is just foolish. It's just message board nonsense that means nothing. You make no legitimate point. You're hopeless and irrelevant to any real conversation.


Ironically, you said that “many folks” use it as a babysitter so you characterized it as such.


That's not irony. And yes, one of the inherent functions of school that's woven into how our society is constructed is childcare.


Np. I am a teacher and an educator. I am not a babysitter and am tired of your disrespectful posts lowering us to such level. School was not “constructed” to serve as childcare. Hire a nanny for your babysitting needs.


You also serve the function of childcare. Maybe you don't want that responsibility, but it's yours.


Or, maybe you don't want the responsibility of your kids. That is the bigger issue.


It's really not. Kids get dropped off, kids get taken care of. MCPS does a pretty good job of that.


It depends on the child and school but some of us want education not child care. We can take responsibility for our own kids.

And if your child has a medical emergency at school? They should say well we don’t provide child care so we will call mom and let her know *shrug*, she’s responsible for her child’s care after all. Do you all engage in any critical thinking before you make these arguments?


Yes, as a matter of fact, they do call the parent in a medical emergency. Hence, not a babysitter.

Are you really this unintelligent? You actually think that if a kid has a medical emergency at school that they do nothing other than call mom?


Dp. Interesting enough, my child did have a medical emergency and the school did just call me. Schools are not for medical emergencies and to rely fully on them for that is pollyannaish.


??? The school called you, yes? They cared for your child by taking them from the classroom and facilitating that communication?


Nope, was left to walk alone to office after falling and knocked unconscious and was diagnosed with a concussion later that day. Ambulance should have been called. So you are dead wrong.


The school called you, yes?


No honey, my child did and you are despicable to think that the school did enough for a child who went unconscious.


So when you previously wrote "and the school did just call me", you were misrepresenting the situation then or now?


Soooo misrepresenting, contact a lawyer and sue me. I can get you some contacts.
My child called using the schools phone, but you seem to think that if the secretary did the calling, then that’s sufficient care.
You are vile.



I've not commented on the quality of the care. I have said that one of the roles that a school plays is childcare. You have described them as having providing poor childcare. You have merely supported the point being discussed here.


If they played a role in childcare, childcare would’ve been provided. Actually, serves to prove that they don’t play a role in it.
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Anonymous wrote:The kids were way more affected by lack of teachers, constant subs, and shuffled into auditoriums not learning anything than virtual. You’re just lying to yourself if you think any differently.


??? Okay, fortunately you're just a message board whiner not in charge of anything. See you in school (or not) in two weeks.


Lol… as if that post was making a case for virtual. It wasn’t but apparently you can’t comprehend and read between the lines. Virtual wasn’t great but what happened in January was even worse. The fact that people refuse to understand this is baffling and it basically proves the point that people who claim to care about education just really care about someone else babysitting their kids. They learned close to nothing in those weeks (but they got to see people so it’s better!) most kids straight up ditched.

100%-absolutely they want the school to be a free babysitter.


For many folks this is an absolute reality. Will you be making a real point soon?


First, you make a real point. School is not an never has been a babysitter.


The way that you characterize it as babysitting for all those who need to provide for their families is just foolish. It's just message board nonsense that means nothing. You make no legitimate point. You're hopeless and irrelevant to any real conversation.


Ironically, you said that “many folks” use it as a babysitter so you characterized it as such.


That's not irony. And yes, one of the inherent functions of school that's woven into how our society is constructed is childcare.


Np. I am a teacher and an educator. I am not a babysitter and am tired of your disrespectful posts lowering us to such level. School was not “constructed” to serve as childcare. Hire a nanny for your babysitting needs.


You also serve the function of childcare. Maybe you don't want that responsibility, but it's yours.


Or, maybe you don't want the responsibility of your kids. That is the bigger issue.


It's really not. Kids get dropped off, kids get taken care of. MCPS does a pretty good job of that.


It depends on the child and school but some of us want education not child care. We can take responsibility for our own kids.

And if your child has a medical emergency at school? They should say well we don’t provide child care so we will call mom and let her know *shrug*, she’s responsible for her child’s care after all. Do you all engage in any critical thinking before you make these arguments?


Yes, as a matter of fact, they do call the parent in a medical emergency. Hence, not a babysitter.

Are you really this unintelligent? You actually think that if a kid has a medical emergency at school that they do nothing other than call mom?


Dp. Interesting enough, my child did have a medical emergency and the school did just call me. Schools are not for medical emergencies and to rely fully on them for that is pollyannaish.


??? The school called you, yes? They cared for your child by taking them from the classroom and facilitating that communication?


Nope, was left to walk alone to office after falling and knocked unconscious and was diagnosed with a concussion later that day. Ambulance should have been called. So you are dead wrong.


The school called you, yes?


Dp-you are gross. Is that all you would do for a child in your care who this happened to? Are you insane?


You've completely missed the point. Not surprising. The issue isn't "did the school do enough?" The point is that the school has responsibility for childcare, and they had responsibility in this case. Did they do enough? Sounds like no, so they provided poor childcare. If anything, you guys are actually just proving the point about one of the functions a school plays.


You’re missing the point that school is not a childcare provider as much as you fantasize. You parents just want your children out of your hair. Simple as that.


That's your closing argument? Really?


Not the pp, but it doesn’t get much simpler than that, so I would say it doesn’t need to be a complex closing argument. Parent do want kids out of their hair. Simple.


So schools aren't responsible for childcare because parents want kids out of their hair. Bravo.


You obviously went to school for childcare services and not education.
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Anonymous wrote:The kids were way more affected by lack of teachers, constant subs, and shuffled into auditoriums not learning anything than virtual. You’re just lying to yourself if you think any differently.


??? Okay, fortunately you're just a message board whiner not in charge of anything. See you in school (or not) in two weeks.


Lol… as if that post was making a case for virtual. It wasn’t but apparently you can’t comprehend and read between the lines. Virtual wasn’t great but what happened in January was even worse. The fact that people refuse to understand this is baffling and it basically proves the point that people who claim to care about education just really care about someone else babysitting their kids. They learned close to nothing in those weeks (but they got to see people so it’s better!) most kids straight up ditched.

100%-absolutely they want the school to be a free babysitter.


For many folks this is an absolute reality. Will you be making a real point soon?


First, you make a real point. School is not an never has been a babysitter.


The way that you characterize it as babysitting for all those who need to provide for their families is just foolish. It's just message board nonsense that means nothing. You make no legitimate point. You're hopeless and irrelevant to any real conversation.


Ironically, you said that “many folks” use it as a babysitter so you characterized it as such.


That's not irony. And yes, one of the inherent functions of school that's woven into how our society is constructed is childcare.


Np. I am a teacher and an educator. I am not a babysitter and am tired of your disrespectful posts lowering us to such level. School was not “constructed” to serve as childcare. Hire a nanny for your babysitting needs.


You also serve the function of childcare. Maybe you don't want that responsibility, but it's yours.


Or, maybe you don't want the responsibility of your kids. That is the bigger issue.


It's really not. Kids get dropped off, kids get taken care of. MCPS does a pretty good job of that.


It depends on the child and school but some of us want education not child care. We can take responsibility for our own kids.

And if your child has a medical emergency at school? They should say well we don’t provide child care so we will call mom and let her know *shrug*, she’s responsible for her child’s care after all. Do you all engage in any critical thinking before you make these arguments?


Yes, as a matter of fact, they do call the parent in a medical emergency. Hence, not a babysitter.

Are you really this unintelligent? You actually think that if a kid has a medical emergency at school that they do nothing other than call mom?


Dp. Interesting enough, my child did have a medical emergency and the school did just call me. Schools are not for medical emergencies and to rely fully on them for that is pollyannaish.


??? The school called you, yes? They cared for your child by taking them from the classroom and facilitating that communication?


Nope, was left to walk alone to office after falling and knocked unconscious and was diagnosed with a concussion later that day. Ambulance should have been called. So you are dead wrong.


The school called you, yes?


No honey, my child did and you are despicable to think that the school did enough for a child who went unconscious.


So when you previously wrote "and the school did just call me", you were misrepresenting the situation then or now?


Soooo misrepresenting, contact a lawyer and sue me. I can get you some contacts.
My child called using the schools phone, but you seem to think that if the secretary did the calling, then that’s sufficient care.
You are vile.



I've not commented on the quality of the care. I have said that one of the roles that a school plays is childcare. You have described them as having providing poor childcare. You have merely supported the point being discussed here.


If they played a role in childcare, childcare would’ve been provided. Actually, serves to prove that they don’t play a role in it.
DP


??? That's a really poor argument.
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Anonymous wrote:The kids were way more affected by lack of teachers, constant subs, and shuffled into auditoriums not learning anything than virtual. You’re just lying to yourself if you think any differently.


??? Okay, fortunately you're just a message board whiner not in charge of anything. See you in school (or not) in two weeks.


Lol… as if that post was making a case for virtual. It wasn’t but apparently you can’t comprehend and read between the lines. Virtual wasn’t great but what happened in January was even worse. The fact that people refuse to understand this is baffling and it basically proves the point that people who claim to care about education just really care about someone else babysitting their kids. They learned close to nothing in those weeks (but they got to see people so it’s better!) most kids straight up ditched.

100%-absolutely they want the school to be a free babysitter.


For many folks this is an absolute reality. Will you be making a real point soon?


First, you make a real point. School is not an never has been a babysitter.


The way that you characterize it as babysitting for all those who need to provide for their families is just foolish. It's just message board nonsense that means nothing. You make no legitimate point. You're hopeless and irrelevant to any real conversation.


Ironically, you said that “many folks” use it as a babysitter so you characterized it as such.


That's not irony. And yes, one of the inherent functions of school that's woven into how our society is constructed is childcare.


Np. I am a teacher and an educator. I am not a babysitter and am tired of your disrespectful posts lowering us to such level. School was not “constructed” to serve as childcare. Hire a nanny for your babysitting needs.


You also serve the function of childcare. Maybe you don't want that responsibility, but it's yours.


Or, maybe you don't want the responsibility of your kids. That is the bigger issue.


It's really not. Kids get dropped off, kids get taken care of. MCPS does a pretty good job of that.


It depends on the child and school but some of us want education not child care. We can take responsibility for our own kids.

And if your child has a medical emergency at school? They should say well we don’t provide child care so we will call mom and let her know *shrug*, she’s responsible for her child’s care after all. Do you all engage in any critical thinking before you make these arguments?


Yes, as a matter of fact, they do call the parent in a medical emergency. Hence, not a babysitter.

Are you really this unintelligent? You actually think that if a kid has a medical emergency at school that they do nothing other than call mom?


Dp. Interesting enough, my child did have a medical emergency and the school did just call me. Schools are not for medical emergencies and to rely fully on them for that is pollyannaish.


??? The school called you, yes? They cared for your child by taking them from the classroom and facilitating that communication?


Nope, was left to walk alone to office after falling and knocked unconscious and was diagnosed with a concussion later that day. Ambulance should have been called. So you are dead wrong.


The school called you, yes?


Dp-you are gross. Is that all you would do for a child in your care who this happened to? Are you insane?


You've completely missed the point. Not surprising. The issue isn't "did the school do enough?" The point is that the school has responsibility for childcare, and they had responsibility in this case. Did they do enough? Sounds like no, so they provided poor childcare. If anything, you guys are actually just proving the point about one of the functions a school plays.


You’re missing the point that school is not a childcare provider as much as you fantasize. You parents just want your children out of your hair. Simple as that.


That's your closing argument? Really?


Not the pp, but it doesn’t get much simpler than that, so I would say it doesn’t need to be a complex closing argument. Parent do want kids out of their hair. Simple.


So schools aren't responsible for childcare because parents want kids out of their hair. Bravo.


You obviously went to school for childcare services and not education.


You've just given up at this point, correct? You realized you had no point so now you just start spouting nonsense...
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Anonymous wrote:The kids were way more affected by lack of teachers, constant subs, and shuffled into auditoriums not learning anything than virtual. You’re just lying to yourself if you think any differently.


??? Okay, fortunately you're just a message board whiner not in charge of anything. See you in school (or not) in two weeks.


Lol… as if that post was making a case for virtual. It wasn’t but apparently you can’t comprehend and read between the lines. Virtual wasn’t great but what happened in January was even worse. The fact that people refuse to understand this is baffling and it basically proves the point that people who claim to care about education just really care about someone else babysitting their kids. They learned close to nothing in those weeks (but they got to see people so it’s better!) most kids straight up ditched.

100%-absolutely they want the school to be a free babysitter.


For many folks this is an absolute reality. Will you be making a real point soon?


First, you make a real point. School is not an never has been a babysitter.


The way that you characterize it as babysitting for all those who need to provide for their families is just foolish. It's just message board nonsense that means nothing. You make no legitimate point. You're hopeless and irrelevant to any real conversation.


Ironically, you said that “many folks” use it as a babysitter so you characterized it as such.


That's not irony. And yes, one of the inherent functions of school that's woven into how our society is constructed is childcare.


Np. I am a teacher and an educator. I am not a babysitter and am tired of your disrespectful posts lowering us to such level. School was not “constructed” to serve as childcare. Hire a nanny for your babysitting needs.


You also serve the function of childcare. Maybe you don't want that responsibility, but it's yours.


Or, maybe you don't want the responsibility of your kids. That is the bigger issue.


It's really not. Kids get dropped off, kids get taken care of. MCPS does a pretty good job of that.


It depends on the child and school but some of us want education not child care. We can take responsibility for our own kids.

And if your child has a medical emergency at school? They should say well we don’t provide child care so we will call mom and let her know *shrug*, she’s responsible for her child’s care after all. Do you all engage in any critical thinking before you make these arguments?


Yes, as a matter of fact, they do call the parent in a medical emergency. Hence, not a babysitter.

Are you really this unintelligent? You actually think that if a kid has a medical emergency at school that they do nothing other than call mom?


Dp. Interesting enough, my child did have a medical emergency and the school did just call me. Schools are not for medical emergencies and to rely fully on them for that is pollyannaish.


??? The school called you, yes? They cared for your child by taking them from the classroom and facilitating that communication?


Nope, was left to walk alone to office after falling and knocked unconscious and was diagnosed with a concussion later that day. Ambulance should have been called. So you are dead wrong.


The school called you, yes?


No honey, my child did and you are despicable to think that the school did enough for a child who went unconscious.


So when you previously wrote "and the school did just call me", you were misrepresenting the situation then or now?


Soooo misrepresenting, contact a lawyer and sue me. I can get you some contacts.
My child called using the schools phone, but you seem to think that if the secretary did the calling, then that’s sufficient care.
You are vile.



I've not commented on the quality of the care. I have said that one of the roles that a school plays is childcare. You have described them as having providing poor childcare. You have merely supported the point being discussed here.


If they played a role in childcare, childcare would’ve been provided. Actually, serves to prove that they don’t play a role in it.
DP

So you are suggesting that it is like lord of the flies in ES. Kid gets knocked unconscious, he’ll get up at some point and call his parents; kid has an allergic reaction, well I hope they have their own epi-pen and know how to use it because it’s not my problem; kid fell off the equipment at recess and broke their wrist, walk it off and tell your parent when you get home. Seriously WTAF is wrong with you people?
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Anonymous wrote:The kids were way more affected by lack of teachers, constant subs, and shuffled into auditoriums not learning anything than virtual. You’re just lying to yourself if you think any differently.


??? Okay, fortunately you're just a message board whiner not in charge of anything. See you in school (or not) in two weeks.


Lol… as if that post was making a case for virtual. It wasn’t but apparently you can’t comprehend and read between the lines. Virtual wasn’t great but what happened in January was even worse. The fact that people refuse to understand this is baffling and it basically proves the point that people who claim to care about education just really care about someone else babysitting their kids. They learned close to nothing in those weeks (but they got to see people so it’s better!) most kids straight up ditched.

100%-absolutely they want the school to be a free babysitter.


For many folks this is an absolute reality. Will you be making a real point soon?


First, you make a real point. School is not an never has been a babysitter.


The way that you characterize it as babysitting for all those who need to provide for their families is just foolish. It's just message board nonsense that means nothing. You make no legitimate point. You're hopeless and irrelevant to any real conversation.


Ironically, you said that “many folks” use it as a babysitter so you characterized it as such.


That's not irony. And yes, one of the inherent functions of school that's woven into how our society is constructed is childcare.


Np. I am a teacher and an educator. I am not a babysitter and am tired of your disrespectful posts lowering us to such level. School was not “constructed” to serve as childcare. Hire a nanny for your babysitting needs.


You also serve the function of childcare. Maybe you don't want that responsibility, but it's yours.


Or, maybe you don't want the responsibility of your kids. That is the bigger issue.


It's really not. Kids get dropped off, kids get taken care of. MCPS does a pretty good job of that.


It depends on the child and school but some of us want education not child care. We can take responsibility for our own kids.

And if your child has a medical emergency at school? They should say well we don’t provide child care so we will call mom and let her know *shrug*, she’s responsible for her child’s care after all. Do you all engage in any critical thinking before you make these arguments?


Yes, as a matter of fact, they do call the parent in a medical emergency. Hence, not a babysitter.

Are you really this unintelligent? You actually think that if a kid has a medical emergency at school that they do nothing other than call mom?


Dp. Interesting enough, my child did have a medical emergency and the school did just call me. Schools are not for medical emergencies and to rely fully on them for that is pollyannaish.


??? The school called you, yes? They cared for your child by taking them from the classroom and facilitating that communication?


Nope, was left to walk alone to office after falling and knocked unconscious and was diagnosed with a concussion later that day. Ambulance should have been called. So you are dead wrong.


The school called you, yes?


Dp-you are gross. Is that all you would do for a child in your care who this happened to? Are you insane?


You've completely missed the point. Not surprising. The issue isn't "did the school do enough?" The point is that the school has responsibility for childcare, and they had responsibility in this case. Did they do enough? Sounds like no, so they provided poor childcare. If anything, you guys are actually just proving the point about one of the functions a school plays.


You’re missing the point that school is not a childcare provider as much as you fantasize. You parents just want your children out of your hair. Simple as that.


That's your closing argument? Really?


Not the pp, but it doesn’t get much simpler than that, so I would say it doesn’t need to be a complex closing argument. Parent do want kids out of their hair. Simple.


So schools aren't responsible for childcare because parents want kids out of their hair. Bravo.


You obviously went to school for childcare services and not education.


You've just given up at this point, correct? You realized you had no point so now you just start spouting nonsense...


You’re statement is so asinine so that’s the response you deserve.
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Seemingly, some parents here are having breakdowns because you aren’t getting free babysitting services the last few months?
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Anonymous wrote:The kids were way more affected by lack of teachers, constant subs, and shuffled into auditoriums not learning anything than virtual. You’re just lying to yourself if you think any differently.


??? Okay, fortunately you're just a message board whiner not in charge of anything. See you in school (or not) in two weeks.


Lol… as if that post was making a case for virtual. It wasn’t but apparently you can’t comprehend and read between the lines. Virtual wasn’t great but what happened in January was even worse. The fact that people refuse to understand this is baffling and it basically proves the point that people who claim to care about education just really care about someone else babysitting their kids. They learned close to nothing in those weeks (but they got to see people so it’s better!) most kids straight up ditched.

100%-absolutely they want the school to be a free babysitter.


For many folks this is an absolute reality. Will you be making a real point soon?


First, you make a real point. School is not an never has been a babysitter.


The way that you characterize it as babysitting for all those who need to provide for their families is just foolish. It's just message board nonsense that means nothing. You make no legitimate point. You're hopeless and irrelevant to any real conversation.


Ironically, you said that “many folks” use it as a babysitter so you characterized it as such.


That's not irony. And yes, one of the inherent functions of school that's woven into how our society is constructed is childcare.


Np. I am a teacher and an educator. I am not a babysitter and am tired of your disrespectful posts lowering us to such level. School was not “constructed” to serve as childcare. Hire a nanny for your babysitting needs.


You also serve the function of childcare. Maybe you don't want that responsibility, but it's yours.


Or, maybe you don't want the responsibility of your kids. That is the bigger issue.


It's really not. Kids get dropped off, kids get taken care of. MCPS does a pretty good job of that.


It depends on the child and school but some of us want education not child care. We can take responsibility for our own kids.

And if your child has a medical emergency at school? They should say well we don’t provide child care so we will call mom and let her know *shrug*, she’s responsible for her child’s care after all. Do you all engage in any critical thinking before you make these arguments?


Yes, as a matter of fact, they do call the parent in a medical emergency. Hence, not a babysitter.

Are you really this unintelligent? You actually think that if a kid has a medical emergency at school that they do nothing other than call mom?


Dp. Interesting enough, my child did have a medical emergency and the school did just call me. Schools are not for medical emergencies and to rely fully on them for that is pollyannaish.


??? The school called you, yes? They cared for your child by taking them from the classroom and facilitating that communication?


Nope, was left to walk alone to office after falling and knocked unconscious and was diagnosed with a concussion later that day. Ambulance should have been called. So you are dead wrong.


The school called you, yes?


No honey, my child did and you are despicable to think that the school did enough for a child who went unconscious.


So when you previously wrote "and the school did just call me", you were misrepresenting the situation then or now?


Soooo misrepresenting, contact a lawyer and sue me. I can get you some contacts.
My child called using the schools phone, but you seem to think that if the secretary did the calling, then that’s sufficient care.
You are vile.



I've not commented on the quality of the care. I have said that one of the roles that a school plays is childcare. You have described them as having providing poor childcare. You have merely supported the point being discussed here.


If they played a role in childcare, childcare would’ve been provided. Actually, serves to prove that they don’t play a role in it.
DP

So you are suggesting that it is like lord of the flies in ES. Kid gets knocked unconscious, he’ll get up at some point and call his parents; kid has an allergic reaction, well I hope they have their own epi-pen and know how to use it because it’s not my problem; kid fell off the equipment at recess and broke their wrist, walk it off and tell your parent when you get home. Seriously WTAF is wrong with you people?


Their argument at this point is just god awful. School isn't responsible for childcare because of this one incident when poor childcare was provided? This is the argument?
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Anonymous wrote:The kids were way more affected by lack of teachers, constant subs, and shuffled into auditoriums not learning anything than virtual. You’re just lying to yourself if you think any differently.


??? Okay, fortunately you're just a message board whiner not in charge of anything. See you in school (or not) in two weeks.


Lol… as if that post was making a case for virtual. It wasn’t but apparently you can’t comprehend and read between the lines. Virtual wasn’t great but what happened in January was even worse. The fact that people refuse to understand this is baffling and it basically proves the point that people who claim to care about education just really care about someone else babysitting their kids. They learned close to nothing in those weeks (but they got to see people so it’s better!) most kids straight up ditched.

100%-absolutely they want the school to be a free babysitter.


For many folks this is an absolute reality. Will you be making a real point soon?


First, you make a real point. School is not an never has been a babysitter.


The way that you characterize it as babysitting for all those who need to provide for their families is just foolish. It's just message board nonsense that means nothing. You make no legitimate point. You're hopeless and irrelevant to any real conversation.


Ironically, you said that “many folks” use it as a babysitter so you characterized it as such.


That's not irony. And yes, one of the inherent functions of school that's woven into how our society is constructed is childcare.


Np. I am a teacher and an educator. I am not a babysitter and am tired of your disrespectful posts lowering us to such level. School was not “constructed” to serve as childcare. Hire a nanny for your babysitting needs.


You also serve the function of childcare. Maybe you don't want that responsibility, but it's yours.


DP. Finally, someone admits that they want the free babysitter.


DP, but it's pretty staggering how many people, including teachers, dismiss the childcare function inherent in public education. I know they think it's some kind of own, but it really shows how much they look down on childcare providers. It's embarrassing.


It’s embarrassing that you think teachers are merely babysitters.


Show me where I used the word "merely" or "solely." I didn't. Teachers serve many functions; providing competent adult oversight of children (i.e., childcare) is only one of them, but it's in there.


No, they come into class for their daily lesson and then on to elsewhere.


First, while they're in a given teacher's classroom, they are that teacher's responsibility. Second, elementary kids are mostly with their individual teacher all day. Are those kids fending for themselves the entire time?

Someone's insecurity about their profession isn't my issue. I used to work inpatient psych, including conducting individual and group therapy. When I had a group of patients in a meeting room, their safety was absolutely my responsibility. But I didn't whine and tantrum that I was a "babysitter" - I took that responsibility for their well-being seriously. It's not that hard.


It must be insecurity at this point. They so happen to provide supervision during the school day, while they are educating. This doesn't diminish the work they do. It doesn't matter how many times it's restated; they'll still take offense.


There is no correlation between inpatient psych and school. Nice try, but not.


Yes there is, dummy. When the state requires you put a child in school or an adult in a psych ward, the state had an affirmative obligation to care for both.

the whole “school is not chilcare” was a transparently self-serving bit of stupid claptrap that some teachers thought was a clever way to demonstrate that virtual learning was all we were entitled to ever. nobody believed in then, nobody believes it now.


Agree school isn't childcare. It's school and yes virtual learning is all you're entitled to.


Please point to anything that supports this viewpoint - statute, union contract -- anything.
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Anonymous wrote:Seemingly, some parents here are having breakdowns because you aren’t getting free babysitting services the last few months?


I realize you're just doing "drive-by stupid", but I'll acknowledge you. Hi there.
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Anonymous wrote:Seemingly, some parents here are having breakdowns because you aren’t getting free babysitting services the last few months?


I realize you're just doing "drive-by stupid", but I'll acknowledge you. Hi there.


Couldn’t wait to use that, could you? You’re so cool.
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