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“VP” is one of the most meaningless job titles that exist. “MD” and “EVP” are real leadership positions. In a lot of organizations there are 27 year old kids running around with “VP” titles. Most people, particularly in financial services, don’t respect a “VP” job title. |
| Isn't Wilson approx. 2,000 students? Focusing on the top 10 or so seniors out of 500 i.e. top 1% is misleading -- and also, quite presumptuous to assume your kid would be a top 1% senior. And obsessing over which college they end up at misses the mark. Look up the top graduates from five to eight years ago and see what they majored in, if they graduated college on time, with or without honors, and where they're working or if they ended up at medical or law school. |
You are absolutely ridiculous. Good for the 27 y/o who are VPs, they are smart and driven. Respect? Do you think they care if you, a 50 something middle age guy left in the dust and seething here, respects them? They are not insecure and don't seek your approval. You should work on your self-esteem first if you are so desperate to gain respect from others and bash a bunch of 23 year old kids who make serious money. If you compare financial services and biomed, it tells me that you know nothing. I was in IB and VP is a big deal, with a compensation of around 600K for the first year; the competition is fierce to get from analyst to VP. It's not the same as the guy you met at Bank of America while you shop around for your car loan. |
But lots of students from Wilson aren’t planning on college at all. And even fewer are aiming for the ivies which don’t give merit scholarships—I know kids who turned down ivies for full rides at other great SLACs or HBCs, or just applied to those exclusively. You can’t claim the comparison should be all-of-Wilson vs. all-of-GDS because that’s really apples to oranges. Also the info on what they’re doing now isn’t collected anywhere as far as I know. Maybe somebody at NCS or Sidwell keeps track of the recent alumnae who bother to check in, but even that’s going to be incomplete. The only reason our K-6 knew where DC got into college was because we answered an email, but not everybody does. |
Some real bizarre reasoning here about comparisons. So what is a reasonable comparison to you? The whole 125 member GDS senior class with the top 125 students at Wilson? Or all of the college bound Wilson seniors? What about the kids who start Wilson with their hearts set on Ivies but fall short? How should they be identified or compared? |
LinkedIn. |
| My public high school back in the 90s published a top 25 senior list every summer with graduating GPA, ECs, college destination and hopeful area of study in a mailer that was sent to everyone's house. Unsure if Wilson has ever compiled anything similar. But a list like that can be used in addition to LinkedIn and you'd see the outcomes from 2014-2017 are not on par with any "Big 3" or "Big 5" peers. |
So you’ve done the work and have that info to share? |
Easy, and you’d see it too if you knew anything about public schools. Compare to the Wilson kids taking honors and AP classes. This would include the kids who enter Wilson with their hearts set on ivies, as well as other kids who are on the college track. This would also include the public school kids who won’t apply to ivies for financial or other reasons, but given the high share of private school kids who are gunning for ivies, that should bias it properly from your POV, no? But by all means keep insulting other posters, we get a really good handle on your insecurities that way. |
Wish there were less entitled kids in privates. It’s been more than disappointing. I’m sure the admissions counselors know what they are doing. |
LinkedIn, snort. You can’t tell who graduated in 4 years and who took 6 years, because nobody looking for a job is going to advertise that they dropped out for 2 years. And unless you know the top-tier firms in every sector, and can rank them appropriately, you don’t have a way to compare kids. Sure, you’ll be able to tally up the doctors and lawyers and academics, but if that’s your criterion it’s pretty shallow not to mention won’t cover that many kids. You also won’t know who got in as a legacy, or ED as a full pay applicant, both of which are advantages that accrue more to private school kids. But I suppose you don’t want to acknowledge that stuff anyway. But go ahead, do the analysis and report back to us! |
| Someone earlier in the thread said most of the smartest Wilson seniors year after year are on the debate team. You could easily look up Wilson debate rosters from 2013 to 2017 (i.e. college classes of 2017 to 2021) and then just look those kids up on LinkedIn. |
Plus obviously high school valedictorians and salutatorians are generally public record. |
Law school isn’t that high a bar. |
I'm old $ European and this is disgusting. They are 18 year old kids! Social mobility is great for them, we don't really need any more opportunities. they do. Why are you so bitter? |