I should have kept my kid at Wilson; college admits are much better than the Big3

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here.
The other thing that is that my kid and other friends who left DCPS for private (Big5 and otherwise) are having a hard time with academics this fall. It hasn't been easy to suddenly be accountable for writing and reading.
Don't get me wrong--it's been AWESOME to watch as a parent (my kid is learning!!!) and they're all getting there. But the learning curve has been straight up. My kid is getting his/her first B (ever).
Meanwhile, their peers left in DCPS will have better college outcomes, having done 10% of the work. I just shake my head.

And to the poster who said that the kids at Wilson are disadvantaged unlike their coddled private peers? Give me a break. We're talking about wealthy, upper NW white people at Wilson.
Many are wealthier than I am. In fact, most are. These kids are at no disadvantage. They're just attending a high school that asks nothing of them and the colleges are non the wiser.

Everyone at Wilson isn’t wealthy, white, and upper class.

No, of course not. But the one's who I who ED'd to these schools are. (there are a ton who Ed'd to the Ivy's and similar).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I moved my kid from Deal to private for 9th. The workload is about 5 times that of DCPS. My kid is finally learning to write and study.
It's night and day over DCPS. I can't stress this enough. It's easily 5 times the workload and my kid is actually learning.. I have kids left in DCPS. This year is another shit-show.
English school english classes that don't read a single book or write a single paper. AP classes that DON'T HAVE A TEACHER so the school is giving every kid an A as a default.

College admits are out and the Wilson admits (of white, upper class kids) are better than those at the Big3. These kids are the siblings
of the my kid's friends. They are getting in (unconnected) to Brown, Yale, Northwestern, Penn, and on and on.
You know how a Big 3 was shut out of Brown? Well, not Wilson. They have several kids going and they're not URM. They're upper middle class white kids.
DCPS grossly inflated grades during the pandemic. 19-20 quarters 3 and 4 counted any assignment as extra-credit. So if you did anything (EVEN ONE ASSIGNMENT) quarters 3 and 4 you
got an A. They those quarters were added to 1 and 2 and rounded up. It was almost impossible to get a B. Like statistically impossible if you turned in a SINGLE assignment.
Then last year (20-21) they barely had school and the lowest grade anyone could get was a B. Anything lower than a B was a "P".
You could get As for breathing (and my kids did). I can't emphasize enough how easy it was and is. It was insanity. My kids (19-20 and 20-21) had 98%+ in all classes
with next to no work). It was really stressful for us (and a lot of parents) because we knew our kids weren't learning anything. As such, many of us pulled our kids out.
But now, the kids graduating with this DCPS education are getting the top acceptances out of DC. I'm happy for them but it just seems insane.

I'm sure I'll get crucified for this but it's wacky. These kids are in some giant loophole or elite college admissions. Colleges are not taking the suburban public kids either
(with their 1600 SATs and 15 APs). Urban is where it's out--whether or not anything was learned.

This is obviously a troll post...nobody would rave about their kids learning so much in private and DCPS being such a pit of despair and then in the same breath suggest they should go back to DCPS because of better college admissions.

And the ED list at Wilson doesn't go on and on and on...not that many kids apply ED. And plenty were shut out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Go Tigers! #TigerPride

This parent of a sophomore loves everything you reported, OP! Hoping to keep the trend going.

has your kid read one book this year? Has he written one paper?
if you're honest, the answer to both is no. are you genuinely ok with this?

-Wilson parent who does not share your optimism

No, to both, but…My kid is not taking any English classes this half of the year. When I was in high school, I didn’t write any papers or read books for class when I was in the classes she’s currently enrolled in (foreign language, chemistry, history, music) as a 10th grader. She will have a lot more on her plate next semester.

And yes, I hate the 4x4 and have been vocal about it.

[Anonymous]

The solution is to send your kid to a top ten until the last few years. Then send them to DCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hahahahahaha. You private school parents are a bunch of whiny babies. Sorry your children are not strong candidates for top colleges. Wilson is not perfect, but colleges know what they are doing. Better for them to have kids that can overcome some adversity in public schools rather than entitled spoiled brats from private school.

It's really just filling public school quotas, and in DCPS that primarily means Wilson and SWW.

When your DCPS kid starts to struggle at a competitive college with better-prepared kids, as is often the case, you'll be less smug.

[Anonymous]

Wilson parent here:

In the end, a much higher proportion of kids from private schools will get into elite colleges and they will perform better because they were better prepared.

There is no "bonus" to going to a public school like Wilson in the admissions process but there are fewer kids are in the ED pool to any one college...not that many kids apply ED. So, there will never be 15 kids applying ED to Brown from Wilson...just won't happen.

Wilson (unlike Deal) did a very good job at remote learning last year--synchronous all day except for Wednesdays.

Look, I have grave concerns about my kid's preparedness for college because I know it's nothing compared to what private school kids get...but there are a bunch of extremely smart kids at Wilson with astronomical scores.

[Anonymous]

OP, what would you suggest?

Honest to god...I'm a private school parent and feel fortunate to be able to afford it because I think it's a much better education. But not every family can and these students had no control over what has happened over the last couple of years. What should colleges do? Say, "I'm sorry DCPS students, the system failed you for a couple of years so, despite your high SAT scores and AP scores, the grade inflation makes your GPA not believable so we won't consider you."

Of course these colleges could fill their ranks with UMC kids from elite private schools...but they don't and they shouldn't. And anyone who thinks private school kids don't have an unbelievable advantage is deluding themselves.

[Anonymous]

It's the turn against legacies and privilege (which isn't a bad thing.) Many colleges take URMs from private as well super wealthy and connected kids (think politically connected in the case of Sidwell). That leaves unconnected white kids in a quandary unless they are super brilliant.

[Anonymous]

OP, the point of education is to learn, not to get accepted to a name brand college. Life is a marathon, and college matriculation is the first of many gates, not the finish line. If it’s true as you say that the DCPS kids didn’t learn anything, and your kids have learned a lot at a Big 3, then eventually that will come home to roost.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's the turn against legacies and privilege (which isn't a bad thing.) Many colleges take URMs from private as well super wealthy and connected kids (think politically connected in the case of Sidwell). That leaves unconnected white kids in a quandary unless they are super brilliant.

If you think turning away from legacies is a bad thing, then I would hope you think that politically connected admits are even worse. At least with legacies, you have many children of parents who worked their butts off to get into good schools, including children of first-generation immigrants who fought hard to get into the best schools to make a better life for themselves and their families.

Politically connected? I know Bryan Garman salivates over those families and their often mediocre (at best) children, but why on earth would we want to create a system that’s basically no better for historically excluded students, but is even less transparent?

[Anonymous]

What a provocative clik bait subject line! Good job OP!

Here’s why you’re a troll:
1. Your premise isn’t based in fact, at all. So many kids in my son’s class at an actual big3 are getting great ED/SCEA news. We’ve heard the same from NCS and STA so far.

2. You can’t possibly know the real-time updates from 5 entire schools. I don’t. Nobody does. We’ll all know everything in April when wilson does its sentimental YouTube thing on comprehensive college admits. And all the private school kids have updated their personal IG accounts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I moved my kid from Deal to private for 9th. The workload is about 5 times that of DCPS. My kid is finally learning to write and study.
It's night and day over DCPS. I can't stress this enough. It's easily 5 times the workload and my kid is actually learning.. I have kids left in DCPS. This year is another shit-show.
English school english classes that don't read a single book or write a single paper. AP classes that DON'T HAVE A TEACHER so the school is giving every kid an A as a default.

College admits are out and the Wilson admits (of white, upper class kids) are better than those at the Big3. These kids are the siblings
of the my kid's friends. They are getting in (unconnected) to Brown, Yale, Northwestern, Penn, and on and on.
You know how a Big 3 was shut out of Brown? Well, not Wilson. They have several kids going and they're not URM. They're upper middle class white kids.
DCPS grossly inflated grades during the pandemic. 19-20 quarters 3 and 4 counted any assignment as extra-credit. So if you did anything (EVEN ONE ASSIGNMENT) quarters 3 and 4 you
got an A. They those quarters were added to 1 and 2 and rounded up. It was almost impossible to get a B. Like statistically impossible if you turned in a SINGLE assignment.
Then last year (20-21) they barely had school and the lowest grade anyone could get was a B. Anything lower than a B was a "P".
You could get As for breathing (and my kids did). I can't emphasize enough how easy it was and is. It was insanity. My kids (19-20 and 20-21) had 98%+ in all classes
with next to no work). It was really stressful for us (and a lot of parents) because we knew our kids weren't learning anything. As such, many of us pulled our kids out.
But now, the kids graduating with this DCPS education are getting the top acceptances out of DC. I'm happy for them but it just seems insane.

I'm sure I'll get crucified for this but it's wacky. These kids are in some giant loophole or elite college admissions. Colleges are not taking the suburban public kids either
(with their 1600 SATs and 15 APs). Urban is where it's out--whether or not anything was learned.

And how do those Wilson kids do at college if they are so unprepared?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I moved my kid from Deal to private for 9th. The workload is about 5 times that of DCPS. My kid is finally learning to write and study.
It's night and day over DCPS. I can't stress this enough. It's easily 5 times the workload and my kid is actually learning.. I have kids left in DCPS. This year is another shit-show.
English school english classes that don't read a single book or write a single paper. AP classes that DON'T HAVE A TEACHER so the school is giving every kid an A as a default.

College admits are out and the Wilson admits (of white, upper class kids) are better than those at the Big3. These kids are the siblings
of the my kid's friends. They are getting in (unconnected) to Brown, Yale, Northwestern, Penn, and on and on.
You know how a Big 3 was shut out of Brown? Well, not Wilson. They have several kids going and they're not URM. They're upper middle class white kids.
DCPS grossly inflated grades during the pandemic. 19-20 quarters 3 and 4 counted any assignment as extra-credit. So if you did anything (EVEN ONE ASSIGNMENT) quarters 3 and 4 you
got an A. They those quarters were added to 1 and 2 and rounded up. It was almost impossible to get a B. Like statistically impossible if you turned in a SINGLE assignment.
Then last year (20-21) they barely had school and the lowest grade anyone could get was a B. Anything lower than a B was a "P".
You could get As for breathing (and my kids did). I can't emphasize enough how easy it was and is. It was insanity. My kids (19-20 and 20-21) had 98%+ in all classes
with next to no work). It was really stressful for us (and a lot of parents) because we knew our kids weren't learning anything. As such, many of us pulled our kids out.
But now, the kids graduating with this DCPS education are getting the top acceptances out of DC. I'm happy for them but it just seems insane.

I'm sure I'll get crucified for this but it's wacky. These kids are in some giant loophole or elite college admissions. Colleges are not taking the suburban public kids either
(with their 1600 SATs and 15 APs). Urban is where it's out--whether or not anything was learned.

The crime and behavior problems at Wilson are through the roof.

[Anonymous]

Seems like a troll post. Says that moved kid to private at 9th but also that kids got As for sneezing at Wilson? Seems like a contradiction.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I moved my kid from Deal to private for 9th. The workload is about 5 times that of DCPS. My kid is finally learning to write and study.
It's night and day over DCPS. I can't stress this enough. It's easily 5 times the workload and my kid is actually learning.. I have kids left in DCPS. This year is another shit-show.
English school english classes that don't read a single book or write a single paper. AP classes that DON'T HAVE A TEACHER so the school is giving every kid an A as a default.

College admits are out and the Wilson admits (of white, upper class kids) are better than those at the Big3. These kids are the siblings
of the my kid's friends. They are getting in (unconnected) to Brown, Yale, Northwestern, Penn, and on and on.
You know how a Big 3 was shut out of Brown? Well, not Wilson. They have several kids going and they're not URM. They're upper middle class white kids.
DCPS grossly inflated grades during the pandemic. 19-20 quarters 3 and 4 counted any assignment as extra-credit. So if you did anything (EVEN ONE ASSIGNMENT) quarters 3 and 4 you
got an A. They those quarters were added to 1 and 2 and rounded up. It was almost impossible to get a B. Like statistically impossible if you turned in a SINGLE assignment.
Then last year (20-21) they barely had school and the lowest grade anyone could get was a B. Anything lower than a B was a "P".
You could get As for breathing (and my kids did). I can't emphasize enough how easy it was and is. It was insanity. My kids (19-20 and 20-21) had 98%+ in all classes
with next to no work). It was really stressful for us (and a lot of parents) because we knew our kids weren't learning anything. As such, many of us pulled our kids out.
But now, the kids graduating with this DCPS education are getting the top acceptances out of DC. I'm happy for them but it just seems insane.

I'm sure I'll get crucified for this but it's wacky. These kids are in some giant loophole or elite college admissions. Colleges are not taking the suburban public kids either
(with their 1600 SATs and 15 APs). Urban is where it's out--whether or not anything was learned.

And how do those Wilson kids do at college if they are so unprepared?

If this post is true, by the time OPs kid graduates, Brown won’t be taking any Wilson kids because the track record of performance of the previous acceptances were poor. So nothing to worry about.