Blake Lively- Jason Baldoni and NYT - False Light claims

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Anonymous wrote:I haven’t listened to a TikTok from Candice Owen’s or read anything written by her about this case. I’ve formed an opinion by reading both lawsuits.

What do you blame my opinion that BL is false accuser on?

Same here.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a progressive Gen X woman, have never been remotely tempted to support anything GOP let alone MAGA, am a public school mom in a blue enclave, am mixed-race, Democratic voted for generations, feminist, raising a DD, argued with a male MCPS teacher back in the day who tried to discredit Anita Hill during his bio lesson, internet at Equality Now….I could go on.

So. I have known Lively is an arrogant and problematic person for years. Thanks to her own acts, I now also know she’s a liar and that Baldoni’s version of events is highly likely to be accurate.

What do you think about Baldoni hiring Trump's crisis manager? What do you think about Candace Owens, Ben Shapiro, and Megyn Kelly taking up Baldoni's cause?

Lady, 90 percent of America thinks Blake”s lawsuit is BS. That’s going to sweep up some red leaning folks as well.

This. Comedians are making jokes thanking Blake for the suit because it’s the one thing that the left and right can agree with. (Her claims are false)

Yup!! Everyone is talking about this.

“Everyone” like Chelsea Handler??
It’s funny, just as some on here are repelled by the idea of agreeing with Owens on anything, I’m more repelled by Chelsea Handler so I guess I need to rethink and side with BL after all? Is that how this works?

[Anonymous]

Guys, YOU are the one posting all the Candace Owens links in this thread and going on with praise about how Candace Owens just gets it and sadly no one else is presenting the facts with the same clarity and zest as wonderful Candace Owens. You own that opinion now. You’re allowed to have that opinion, and you’ve certainly expressed it here. Not everyone on Baldoni’s side here has said that in here, but there have definitely been several different supporters posting Candace Owens links and agreeing with her take on this. Your team is the one posting the Candace Owens links and then getting upset that others have correctly pointed out that she is an anti feminist nazi. Nobody here would have mentioned Candace Owen’s if you hadn’t posted fawning links of hers in the first place, so saying we’re accusing you of “wrong think” because your opinions just happen to align on this is bananas. You guys posted the links! Several times! So just own it.

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Also, a DP posted info several pages ago about how lots of people supporting Baldoni are also funding or supporting far-right causes, and now suddenly no one left in here has ever heard the Candace Owen’s podcasts and it hasn’t influenced them in any way. Haha okay. You guys are so weird.

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Anonymous wrote:I give the Baldoni supporters credit for realizing early on after the last moderator skirmish that they can avoid all complaints about misogyny and sexism in their comments by just looping Reynolds in to their attacks. *Voila* It can't be just misogyny because hey, they've included a man also! It's magical! They lose the narrative a little by occasionally throwing in claims that Reynolds is clearly gay, but still they are clearly killing it here. A++ on strategy around the moderator folks - gotta give props where they're due.

I just really don't understand the hateful tone of some of the anti-Lively posts, here on a DCUM thread. I'm spending time on here deflecting some of the Lively hate because it rubs me the wrong way and I think some of the underlying hatred is stemming from Baldoni's known PR campaign, but if I were residing in this thread posting things like "Fake Lively and her megalomaniac husband can't come to grips with the general public organically sussing out they're compulsive lying scam artists who used and exploited their celebrity friends" or "Those Candace Owens autopsies clearly have Reynolds and Lively rattled. Tens of millions of organic views, plus zoomers on TikTok clipping them." etc etc, I think it would cause me to do a little introspection. That's just me, though. Maybe I haven't watched enough Candace Owens to fully understand the psyche of these people.

Why are you on the internet trying to “deflect hate” against someone you do not know?

Because I have an opinion about this stuff, same as you. If you’re against me, I assume you’re on here spreading that hate to start with, which tells me something about you.

Okaaaay

[Anonymous]

I listened to all of Candace Owens's podcasts on Blake. She is the best reporter on the Blake beat right now, full stop.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a progressive Gen X woman, have never been remotely tempted to support anything GOP let alone MAGA, am a public school mom in a blue enclave, am mixed-race, Democratic voted for generations, feminist, raising a DD, argued with a male MCPS teacher back in the day who tried to discredit Anita Hill during his bio lesson, internet at Equality Now….I could go on.

So. I have known Lively is an arrogant and problematic person for years. Thanks to her own acts, I now also know she’s a liar and that Baldoni’s version of events is highly likely to be accurate.

What do you think about Baldoni hiring Trump's crisis manager? What do you think about Candace Owens, Ben Shapiro, and Megyn Kelly taking up Baldoni's cause?

Lady, 90 percent of America thinks Blake”s lawsuit is BS. That’s going to sweep up some red leaning folks as well.

Exactly. This isn’t a left vs right thing, this is an everyone thing. We can all agree grass is green and the sky is blue. Blake and Ryan, uniting the political parties!

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It’s so interesting that Ryan did the same movie takeover thing with the comic book movie.

Ryan swanning in and rewriting scenes of Justin’s movie is bad enough, but then they lie about it and say Blake did it? They had Justin so twisted up he didn’t know if he was coming or going. I feel for him. Somebody said they love bombed him and YES this is exactly what they did.

I dislike these people so much. I used to like Ryan. The Proposal was so funny. Thinking about it, Sandra Bullock was actually the funny one and Ryan was the dull cross-eyed one. Was indifferent about Blake.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know why he asked about the weight. If you have a back injury, a few pounds either way isn't going to change lifting someone up. He knew she was post partum and they could estimate her weight from looking at her.

I think he asked more due to his body dysmorphia and issues and wanting to know her exact weight.

Agree with this. He definitely wasn't trying to "fat shame" her. However, I think this is a good example of where he is tone deaf and handles things poorly, and hit backfires HUGELY because Lively is highly reactive.

Asking the trainer what Lively's weight was... that was just stupid. Like unacceptably stupid. Again, I don't think he was trying to harass her or shame her or anything. I just think he was being an idiot and not getting what a radioactive violation of her privacy that would be especially with her just coming back from having a baby and clearly being in a sensitive place regarding her weight.

The stuff about him recommending a "weight loss specialist" is silly and I don't agree with her at all that that's what he was doing. But I also thin it all links back to him doing this dumb thing and asking her trainer for her weight.

He and Heath both do stuff like this throughout the production -- just idiotic transgressions that I truly don't believe were intentionally harassing but even just taken in isolation, I'm like "what? who does that?" Telling a mother of four what is normal during childbirth? Walking in on a woman who is topless in a trailer (even if you think she might be "cool" with it, this is just a dumb thing to do and someone with more sense would be like "oh excuse me I'll wait outside")? Talking about porn and asking lots of questions about porn (yes, even in the context of the movie -- this is a hot button topic and especially when you are talking to someone you know offends easily)?

If there was a cause of action that was "accidental harassment via stupidity and lack of self-awareness," I think this two would be guilty of it.

It really bothers me when people object to Jamie and Justin talking about the childbirth scene with Blake because she’s had four babies. Literally, the director‘s job is to lay out a vision for what he wants the childbirth scene to be in this movie. who gives a flying F if Blake has had 10 babies, he’s not coaching Blake through labor, he is trying to lay out a vision for a scene in his movie.

I am sure many actresses have had sex scenes in a movie that were not like the way they have sex in real life. They have gotten married in movies and shot wedding scenes that were not like their wedding in real life. And they have given birth in movie scenes in ways that were not like the way they gave birth in real life.

She is getting paid to act out a childbirth scene and he is the director of a movie. It was completely appropriate for them to have that discussion.

[Anonymous]

EXCLUSIVE by Daily Mail this morning. Blake and Ryan whining about the Super Bowl diss.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-14374375/blake-lively-taylor-swift-super-bowl-snub.html

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know why he asked about the weight. If you have a back injury, a few pounds either way isn't going to change lifting someone up. He knew she was post partum and they could estimate her weight from looking at her.

I think he asked more due to his body dysmorphia and issues and wanting to know her exact weight.

Agree with this. He definitely wasn't trying to "fat shame" her. However, I think this is a good example of where he is tone deaf and handles things poorly, and hit backfires HUGELY because Lively is highly reactive.

Asking the trainer what Lively's weight was... that was just stupid. Like unacceptably stupid. Again, I don't think he was trying to harass her or shame her or anything. I just think he was being an idiot and not getting what a radioactive violation of her privacy that would be especially with her just coming back from having a baby and clearly being in a sensitive place regarding her weight.

The stuff about him recommending a "weight loss specialist" is silly and I don't agree with her at all that that's what he was doing. But I also thin it all links back to him doing this dumb thing and asking her trainer for her weight.

He and Heath both do stuff like this throughout the production -- just idiotic transgressions that I truly don't believe were intentionally harassing but even just taken in isolation, I'm like "what? who does that?" Telling a mother of four what is normal during childbirth? Walking in on a woman who is topless in a trailer (even if you think she might be "cool" with it, this is just a dumb thing to do and someone with more sense would be like "oh excuse me I'll wait outside")? Talking about porn and asking lots of questions about porn (yes, even in the context of the movie -- this is a hot button topic and especially when you are talking to someone you know offends easily)?

If there was a cause of action that was "accidental harassment via stupidity and lack of self-awareness," I think this two would be guilty of it.

It really bothers me when people object to Jamie and Justin talking about the childbirth scene with Blake because she’s had four babies. Literally, the director‘s job is to lay out a vision for what he wants the childbirth scene to be in this movie. who gives a flying F if Blake has had 10 babies, he’s not coaching Blake through labor, he is trying to lay out a vision for a scene in his movie.

I am sure many actresses have had sex scenes in a movie that were not like the way they have sex in real life. They have gotten married in movies and shot wedding scenes that were not like their wedding in real life. And they have given birth in movie scenes in ways that were not like the way they gave birth in real life.

She is getting paid to act out a childbirth scene and he is the director of a movie. It was completely appropriate for them to have that discussion.

For some reason, BL and others seem to be forgetting that this is a movie. She wasn’t a vulnerable new mother giving birth for the first time irl. This is acting, pretending to be something, pretending to give birth. This was FAKE. She wasn’t naked, as many or most women aren’t totally naked while giving birth irl. Why is she even an actor if she doesn’t want to act and follow the director’s direction?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know why he asked about the weight. If you have a back injury, a few pounds either way isn't going to change lifting someone up. He knew she was post partum and they could estimate her weight from looking at her.

I think he asked more due to his body dysmorphia and issues and wanting to know her exact weight.

Agree with this. He definitely wasn't trying to "fat shame" her. However, I think this is a good example of where he is tone deaf and handles things poorly, and hit backfires HUGELY because Lively is highly reactive.

Asking the trainer what Lively's weight was... that was just stupid. Like unacceptably stupid. Again, I don't think he was trying to harass her or shame her or anything. I just think he was being an idiot and not getting what a radioactive violation of her privacy that would be especially with her just coming back from having a baby and clearly being in a sensitive place regarding her weight.

The stuff about him recommending a "weight loss specialist" is silly and I don't agree with her at all that that's what he was doing. But I also thin it all links back to him doing this dumb thing and asking her trainer for her weight.

He and Heath both do stuff like this throughout the production -- just idiotic transgressions that I truly don't believe were intentionally harassing but even just taken in isolation, I'm like "what? who does that?" Telling a mother of four what is normal during childbirth? Walking in on a woman who is topless in a trailer (even if you think she might be "cool" with it, this is just a dumb thing to do and someone with more sense would be like "oh excuse me I'll wait outside")? Talking about porn and asking lots of questions about porn (yes, even in the context of the movie -- this is a hot button topic and especially when you are talking to someone you know offends easily)?

If there was a cause of action that was "accidental harassment via stupidity and lack of self-awareness," I think this two would be guilty of it.

It really bothers me when people object to Jamie and Justin talking about the childbirth scene with Blake because she’s had four babies. Literally, the director‘s job is to lay out a vision for what he wants the childbirth scene to be in this movie. who gives a flying F if Blake has had 10 babies, he’s not coaching Blake through labor, he is trying to lay out a vision for a scene in his movie.

I am sure many actresses have had sex scenes in a movie that were not like the way they have sex in real life. They have gotten married in movies and shot wedding scenes that were not like their wedding in real life. And they have given birth in movie scenes in ways that were not like the way they gave birth in real life.

She is getting paid to act out a childbirth scene and he is the director of a movie. It was completely appropriate for them to have that discussion.

Sure he’s the director, but manspaining to a woman who has given birth four times that all women give birth naked in a tub because that’s how his wife did it — and that all women climax at the same time as their man during sex because that’s what his wife does — seems pretty tone deaf to me. If Justin needed this story to be that specific and oblivious to the big name actress (I know! But compared to Baldoni, Lively is the bigger name and box office draw here) he had actually cast, he should have cast his own wife as Lily instead.

This weird insistence on “this is how women experience this” is off putting. Some directors are brilliant and can get away with mistreating or being rude to the talent, but Baldoni was not in that space and in fact held himself out as someone who would be a partner not a dictator. So his insistence that “women be like this” comes off badly. It speaks to what some people in the thread have said that his feminism seemed performative because he would say one thing but then act differently.

[Anonymous]

I mostly feel bad for Anna Kendrick here, but Blake Lively is continuing to be a PR idiot: She asked for equal billing for A Simple Favor 2, so her name is 2nd, but higher. People are raging about it in comments saying Blake always has to make it about herself and they won't go see the movie. Someone should have told BL it'd be perceived that way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't know why he asked about the weight. If you have a back injury, a few pounds either way isn't going to change lifting someone up. He knew she was post partum and they could estimate her weight from looking at her.

I think he asked more due to his body dysmorphia and issues and wanting to know her exact weight.

Agree with this. He definitely wasn't trying to "fat shame" her. However, I think this is a good example of where he is tone deaf and handles things poorly, and hit backfires HUGELY because Lively is highly reactive.

Asking the trainer what Lively's weight was... that was just stupid. Like unacceptably stupid. Again, I don't think he was trying to harass her or shame her or anything. I just think he was being an idiot and not getting what a radioactive violation of her privacy that would be especially with her just coming back from having a baby and clearly being in a sensitive place regarding her weight.

The stuff about him recommending a "weight loss specialist" is silly and I don't agree with her at all that that's what he was doing. But I also thin it all links back to him doing this dumb thing and asking her trainer for her weight.

He and Heath both do stuff like this throughout the production -- just idiotic transgressions that I truly don't believe were intentionally harassing but even just taken in isolation, I'm like "what? who does that?" Telling a mother of four what is normal during childbirth? Walking in on a woman who is topless in a trailer (even if you think she might be "cool" with it, this is just a dumb thing to do and someone with more sense would be like "oh excuse me I'll wait outside")? Talking about porn and asking lots of questions about porn (yes, even in the context of the movie -- this is a hot button topic and especially when you are talking to someone you know offends easily)?

If there was a cause of action that was "accidental harassment via stupidity and lack of self-awareness," I think this two would be guilty of it.

It really bothers me when people object to Jamie and Justin talking about the childbirth scene with Blake because she’s had four babies. Literally, the director‘s job is to lay out a vision for what he wants the childbirth scene to be in this movie. who gives a flying F if Blake has had 10 babies, he’s not coaching Blake through labor, he is trying to lay out a vision for a scene in his movie.

I am sure many actresses have had sex scenes in a movie that were not like the way they have sex in real life. They have gotten married in movies and shot wedding scenes that were not like their wedding in real life. And they have given birth in movie scenes in ways that were not like the way they gave birth in real life.

She is getting paid to act out a childbirth scene and he is the director of a movie. It was completely appropriate for them to have that discussion.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't know why he asked about the weight. If you have a back injury, a few pounds either way isn't going to change lifting someone up. He knew she was post partum and they could estimate her weight from looking at her.

I think he asked more due to his body dysmorphia and issues and wanting to know her exact weight.

Agree with this. He definitely wasn't trying to "fat shame" her. However, I think this is a good example of where he is tone deaf and handles things poorly, and hit backfires HUGELY because Lively is highly reactive.

Asking the trainer what Lively's weight was... that was just stupid. Like unacceptably stupid. Again, I don't think he was trying to harass her or shame her or anything. I just think he was being an idiot and not getting what a radioactive violation of her privacy that would be especially with her just coming back from having a baby and clearly being in a sensitive place regarding her weight.

The stuff about him recommending a "weight loss specialist" is silly and I don't agree with her at all that that's what he was doing. But I also thin it all links back to him doing this dumb thing and asking her trainer for her weight.

He and Heath both do stuff like this throughout the production -- just idiotic transgressions that I truly don't believe were intentionally harassing but even just taken in isolation, I'm like "what? who does that?" Telling a mother of four what is normal during childbirth? Walking in on a woman who is topless in a trailer (even if you think she might be "cool" with it, this is just a dumb thing to do and someone with more sense would be like "oh excuse me I'll wait outside")? Talking about porn and asking lots of questions about porn (yes, even in the context of the movie -- this is a hot button topic and especially when you are talking to someone you know offends easily)?

If there was a cause of action that was "accidental harassment via stupidity and lack of self-awareness," I think this two would be guilty of it.

It really bothers me when people object to Jamie and Justin talking about the childbirth scene with Blake because she’s had four babies. Literally, the director‘s job is to lay out a vision for what he wants the childbirth scene to be in this movie. who gives a flying F if Blake has had 10 babies, he’s not coaching Blake through labor, he is trying to lay out a vision for a scene in his movie.

I am sure many actresses have had sex scenes in a movie that were not like the way they have sex in real life. They have gotten married in movies and shot wedding scenes that were not like their wedding in real life. And they have given birth in movie scenes in ways that were not like the way they gave birth in real life.

She is getting paid to act out a childbirth scene and he is the director of a movie. It was completely appropriate for them to have that discussion.

Sure he’s the director, but manspaining to a woman who has given birth four times that all women give birth naked in a tub because that’s how his wife did it — and that all women climax at the same time as their man during sex because that’s what his wife does — seems pretty tone deaf to me. If Justin needed this story to be that specific and oblivious to the big name actress (I know! But compared to Baldoni, Lively is the bigger name and box office draw here) he had actually cast, he should have cast his own wife as Lily instead.

This weird insistence on “this is how women experience this” is off putting. Some directors are brilliant and can get away with mistreating or being rude to the talent, but Baldoni was not in that space and in fact held himself out as someone who would be a partner not a dictator. So his insistence that “women be like this” comes off badly. It speaks to what some people in the thread have said that his feminism seemed performative because he would say one thing but then act differently.

Why did BL and RR seem to kiss JB’s perineum during the filming if they hated him so much and disagreed with everything? Per the leaked texts, BL and RR were totally unprofessional in their interactions with JB. Are we missing something here?