Blake Lively- Jason Baldoni and NYT - False Light claims

[Anonymous]

I give the Baldoni supporters credit for realizing early on after the last moderator skirmish that they can avoid all complaints about misogyny and sexism in their comments by just looping Reynolds in to their attacks. *Voila* It can't be just misogyny because hey, they've included a man also! It's magical! They lose the narrative a little by occasionally throwing in claims that Reynolds is clearly gay, but still they are clearly killing it here. A++ on strategy around the moderator folks - gotta give props where they're due.

I just really don't understand the hateful tone of some of the anti-Lively posts, here on a DCUM thread. I'm spending time on here deflecting some of the Lively hate because it rubs me the wrong way and I think some of the underlying hatred is stemming from Baldoni's known PR campaign, but if I were residing in this thread posting things like "Fake Lively and her megalomaniac husband can't come to grips with the general public organically sussing out they're compulsive lying scam artists who used and exploited their celebrity friends" or "Those Candace Owens autopsies clearly have Reynolds and Lively rattled. Tens of millions of organic views, plus zoomers on TikTok clipping them." etc etc, I think it would cause me to do a little introspection. That's just me, though. Maybe I haven't watched enough Candace Owens to fully understand the psyche of these people.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a progressive Gen X woman, have never been remotely tempted to support anything GOP let alone MAGA, am a public school mom in a blue enclave, am mixed-race, Democratic voted for generations, feminist, raising a DD, argued with a male MCPS teacher back in the day who tried to discredit Anita Hill during his bio lesson, internet at Equality Now….I could go on.

So. I have known Lively is an arrogant and problematic person for years. Thanks to her own acts, I now also know she’s a liar and that Baldoni’s version of events is highly likely to be accurate.

What do you think about Baldoni hiring Trump's crisis manager? What do you think about Candace Owens, Ben Shapiro, and Megyn Kelly taking up Baldoni's cause?

Lady, 90 percent of America thinks Blake”s lawsuit is BS. That’s going to sweep up some red leaning folks as well.

This. Comedians are making jokes thanking Blake for the suit because it’s the one thing that the left and right can agree with. (Her claims are false)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I give the Baldoni supporters credit for realizing early on after the last moderator skirmish that they can avoid all complaints about misogyny and sexism in their comments by just looping Reynolds in to their attacks. *Voila* It can't be just misogyny because hey, they've included a man also! It's magical! They lose the narrative a little by occasionally throwing in claims that Reynolds is clearly gay, but still they are clearly killing it here. A++ on strategy around the moderator folks - gotta give props where they're due.

I just really don't understand the hateful tone of some of the anti-Lively posts, here on a DCUM thread. I'm spending time on here deflecting some of the Lively hate because it rubs me the wrong way and I think some of the underlying hatred is stemming from Baldoni's known PR campaign, but if I were residing in this thread posting things like "Fake Lively and her megalomaniac husband can't come to grips with the general public organically sussing out they're compulsive lying scam artists who used and exploited their celebrity friends" or "Those Candace Owens autopsies clearly have Reynolds and Lively rattled. Tens of millions of organic views, plus zoomers on TikTok clipping them." etc etc, I think it would cause me to do a little introspection. That's just me, though. Maybe I haven't watched enough Candace Owens to fully understand the psyche of these people.

Why are you on the internet trying to “deflect hate” against someone you do not know?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I give the Baldoni supporters credit for realizing early on after the last moderator skirmish that they can avoid all complaints about misogyny and sexism in their comments by just looping Reynolds in to their attacks. *Voila* It can't be just misogyny because hey, they've included a man also! It's magical! They lose the narrative a little by occasionally throwing in claims that Reynolds is clearly gay, but still they are clearly killing it here. A++ on strategy around the moderator folks - gotta give props where they're due.

I just really don't understand the hateful tone of some of the anti-Lively posts, here on a DCUM thread. I'm spending time on here deflecting some of the Lively hate because it rubs me the wrong way and I think some of the underlying hatred is stemming from Baldoni's known PR campaign, but if I were residing in this thread posting things like "Fake Lively and her megalomaniac husband can't come to grips with the general public organically sussing out they're compulsive lying scam artists who used and exploited their celebrity friends" or "Those Candace Owens autopsies clearly have Reynolds and Lively rattled. Tens of millions of organic views, plus zoomers on TikTok clipping them." etc etc, I think it would cause me to do a little introspection. That's just me, though. Maybe I haven't watched enough Candace Owens to fully understand the psyche of these people.

Why are you on the internet trying to “deflect hate” against someone you do not know?

Because I have an opinion about this stuff, same as you. If you’re against me, I assume you’re on here spreading that hate to start with, which tells me something about you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I give the Baldoni supporters credit for realizing early on after the last moderator skirmish that they can avoid all complaints about misogyny and sexism in their comments by just looping Reynolds in to their attacks. *Voila* It can't be just misogyny because hey, they've included a man also! It's magical! They lose the narrative a little by occasionally throwing in claims that Reynolds is clearly gay, but still they are clearly killing it here. A++ on strategy around the moderator folks - gotta give props where they're due.

I just really don't understand the hateful tone of some of the anti-Lively posts, here on a DCUM thread. I'm spending time on here deflecting some of the Lively hate because it rubs me the wrong way and I think some of the underlying hatred is stemming from Baldoni's known PR campaign, but if I were residing in this thread posting things like "Fake Lively and her megalomaniac husband can't come to grips with the general public organically sussing out they're compulsive lying scam artists who used and exploited their celebrity friends" or "Those Candace Owens autopsies clearly have Reynolds and Lively rattled. Tens of millions of organic views, plus zoomers on TikTok clipping them." etc etc, I think it would cause me to do a little introspection. That's just me, though. Maybe I haven't watched enough Candace Owens to fully understand the psyche of these people.

Why are you on the internet trying to “deflect hate” against someone you do not know?

Because I have an opinion about this stuff, same as you. If you’re against me, I assume you’re on here spreading that hate to start with, which tells me something about you.

Like, seriously, I told you why I’m here. Why are DCUM moms spending hours posting empty hateful nonsense like "Fake Lively and her megalomaniac husband can't come to grips with the general public organically sussing out they're compulsive lying scam artists who used and exploited their celebrity friends" or "Those Candace Owens autopsies clearly have Reynolds and Lively rattled. Tens of millions of organic views, plus zoomers on TikTok clipping them”? Like, they’re allowed, but the weird hate is A Lot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I give the Baldoni supporters credit for realizing early on after the last moderator skirmish that they can avoid all complaints about misogyny and sexism in their comments by just looping Reynolds in to their attacks. *Voila* It can't be just misogyny because hey, they've included a man also! It's magical! They lose the narrative a little by occasionally throwing in claims that Reynolds is clearly gay, but still they are clearly killing it here. A++ on strategy around the moderator folks - gotta give props where they're due.

I just really don't understand the hateful tone of some of the anti-Lively posts, here on a DCUM thread. I'm spending time on here deflecting some of the Lively hate because it rubs me the wrong way and I think some of the underlying hatred is stemming from Baldoni's known PR campaign, but if I were residing in this thread posting things like "Fake Lively and her megalomaniac husband can't come to grips with the general public organically sussing out they're compulsive lying scam artists who used and exploited their celebrity friends" or "Those Candace Owens autopsies clearly have Reynolds and Lively rattled. Tens of millions of organic views, plus zoomers on TikTok clipping them." etc etc, I think it would cause me to do a little introspection. That's just me, though. Maybe I haven't watched enough Candace Owens to fully understand the psyche of these people.

Why are you on the internet trying to “deflect hate” against someone you do not know?

Because I have an opinion about this stuff, same as you. If you’re against me, I assume you’re on here spreading that hate to start with, which tells me something about you.

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Say wutttttt????

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:An incredible summary. Focus is on BL and RR following Reynolds’s strategies to get production and backend profits for Deadpool to do the same for her. It tracks.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7qeV56Mo7vs

Yup!! This is their thing. Steal from less powerful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I give the Baldoni supporters credit for realizing early on after the last moderator skirmish that they can avoid all complaints about misogyny and sexism in their comments by just looping Reynolds in to their attacks. *Voila* It can't be just misogyny because hey, they've included a man also! It's magical! They lose the narrative a little by occasionally throwing in claims that Reynolds is clearly gay, but still they are clearly killing it here. A++ on strategy around the moderator folks - gotta give props where they're due.

I just really don't understand the hateful tone of some of the anti-Lively posts, here on a DCUM thread. I'm spending time on here deflecting some of the Lively hate because it rubs me the wrong way and I think some of the underlying hatred is stemming from Baldoni's known PR campaign, but if I were residing in this thread posting things like "Fake Lively and her megalomaniac husband can't come to grips with the general public organically sussing out they're compulsive lying scam artists who used and exploited their celebrity friends" or "Those Candace Owens autopsies clearly have Reynolds and Lively rattled. Tens of millions of organic views, plus zoomers on TikTok clipping them." etc etc, I think it would cause me to do a little introspection. That's just me, though. Maybe I haven't watched enough Candace Owens to fully understand the psyche of these people.

Why are you on the internet trying to “deflect hate” against someone you do not know?

Because I have an opinion about this stuff, same as you. If you’re against me, I assume you’re on here spreading that hate to start with, which tells me something about you.

Are you the self proclaimed spreader of sparkle?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a progressive Gen X woman, have never been remotely tempted to support anything GOP let alone MAGA, am a public school mom in a blue enclave, am mixed-race, Democratic voted for generations, feminist, raising a DD, argued with a male MCPS teacher back in the day who tried to discredit Anita Hill during his bio lesson, internet at Equality Now….I could go on.

So. I have known Lively is an arrogant and problematic person for years. Thanks to her own acts, I now also know she’s a liar and that Baldoni’s version of events is highly likely to be accurate.

What do you think about Baldoni hiring Trump's crisis manager? What do you think about Candace Owens, Ben Shapiro, and Megyn Kelly taking up Baldoni's cause?

Lady, 90 percent of America thinks Blake”s lawsuit is BS. That’s going to sweep up some red leaning folks as well.

This. Comedians are making jokes thanking Blake for the suit because it’s the one thing that the left and right can agree with. (Her claims are false)

Yup!! Everyone is talking about this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:An incredible summary. Focus is on BL and RR following Reynolds’s strategies to get production and backend profits for Deadpool to do the same for her. It tracks.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7qeV56Mo7vs

Yup!! This is their thing. Steal from less powerful.

Yes, this was a deliberate powerplay, everything else is just noise. Ryan did it with Deadpool and they figured they could do the same here.

[Anonymous]

I don’t think anyone should be making this very not political thing political. Just think for yourself.

[Anonymous]

On the costuming for IEWU:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HYR-bPErL-o&pp=ygUYd2FyZHJvYmUgaXQgZW5kcyB3aXRoIHVz

[Anonymous]

I haven’t listened to a TikTok from Candice Owen’s or read anything written by her about this case. I’ve formed an opinion by reading both lawsuits.

What do you blame my opinion that BL is false accuser on?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just want to not some of the politics going on in this controversy, which I think might be flying below the radar for some people.

Baldoni has hired numerous professionals who are aligned with the right or Donald Trump. His attorney, Bryan Freedman, has ties to a lot of journalists on the right -- Megyn Kelly is a former client and has spoken out a lot on this case, seizing on the "she lied" aspect of Baldoni's argument. Freedman has also previously represented Perez Hilton, whose website has a spotty record, at best, with its treatment of women. Perez Hilton has recently been discussing the case on Ben Shapiro's podcast. Meanwhile, well known alt-right Nazi Candace Owens has been posting constantly about the case and become a darling of pro-Baldoni support. When her disturbing views (she's a Holocaust denier and has engaged in danger conspiracy theorizing about everything from Jews in Hollywood to mass shooting events), they often reply with comments like "Sure, I don't agree with all her views, but..."

Meanwhile, Melissa Nathan, the crisis manager Baldoni hired to help him with his conflict with Lively not only famously worked for Johnny Depp in his takedown of Amber Heard, she also worked for Donald Trump during the "Russiagate" controversy and associated impeachment proceedings.

Meanwhile, Blake Lively is a fairly standard Hollywood liberal. Not super outspoken but has spoken out against Trump and aligns with the left on immigration and abortion. She's also close friends with Taylor Swift who, while also not super outspoken on political issues, became a very public enemy of Donald Trump by endorsing Kamala Harris in the 2024 election.

Lively is also represented in the case by Mannatt Phelps. Mannatt is somewhat unusual among big law firms in having a decidedly liberal bent. The firm is best known for its work in the healthcare space, where its hybrid legal/consulting work crosses over into advocacy for Medicaid expansion. Many Manatt lawyers and consultants are outspoken in their political views in a way that is uncommon in corporate law.

As I have watched an army of people mobilizing online against Lively, seizing on both the standard online hate directed at women (also seen in the Heard case) but also more fully embracing alt-right advocates and conspiracy theorists, I have grown increasingly uneasy. I want this to be your standard Hollywood gossip -- juicy and interesting because it involves people who are rich and attractive. But I think it's more than that. I don't think Baldoni himself is actually conspiring with the right directly, but I think he's become a useful cause to advance the alt-right in a time when we are genuinely at a dangerous crossroads with regards to the direction of our country and democracy.

I am sure this comment will be attacked. I'm sure I'll be dismissed. But there is a subtext to this controversy that is easy to miss if you are someone who is quick to dismiss or roll your eyes at Hollywood gossip. I think Jeff is missing it and it's one reason he's not understood what is really happening in these threads. But I want to put it out there.

Be careful who you listen to and use critical thinking when you read, even about Hollywood gossip. These are dark times and the weapons being used by people who want to destroy this country might come in odd disguises.

DP (I'm the person who just posted the quotes from reddit) and I think this is interesting and worth discussion. But am not surprised that the Baldoni side doesn't want to discuss it except to deny any possibility that they are being pulled into supporting someone who, by taking down a liberal woman, is perfectly in line with right wing talking points. After all, they can't get enough of Candace Owens' takedowns of Lively, either.

This case is not a right wing conspiracy. Not everything is political. The FACTS thus far based on the released EVIDENCE are that Blake Lively lied when she accused Justin Baldoni of sexual harassment. She tried to ruin an innocent man’s life.

*She & her creepy husband. This needs to be emphasized. People should honestly go to jail for this.

And more than likely it was for money in the form of rights to the sequel. So gross

This is just silly. Lively brought her harassment concerns up (the 17 points) pretty early in the production. She legit wanted them addressed so the remainder of filming would be free of the same issues. Whether you agree with her that Baldoni and co. were harassing her on purpose, or at all, is between you and your god Candace Owens I suppose, but the idea that Lively made everything up to eventually get the rights on a sequel of a movie that hadn’t even been released yet is honestly pretty laughable and logic impaired.

Nope.
Not early on at all.
It was the day after the writers strike ended.
Interestingly, it appears that writers strike means RR was home again and that coincides with when she started asking/demanding dailies.
They were able to put it off but the day that filming was supposed to resume is when her agent presented this list of demands/conditions for her to return to work.
There was nothing in her very regular and sometimes filled-with-innuendo-on-her-part text exchanges with JB that would have prepared him for that document coming.
It really seems something happened in those weeks off.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just want to not some of the politics going on in this controversy, which I think might be flying below the radar for some people.

Baldoni has hired numerous professionals who are aligned with the right or Donald Trump. His attorney, Bryan Freedman, has ties to a lot of journalists on the right -- Megyn Kelly is a former client and has spoken out a lot on this case, seizing on the "she lied" aspect of Baldoni's argument. Freedman has also previously represented Perez Hilton, whose website has a spotty record, at best, with its treatment of women. Perez Hilton has recently been discussing the case on Ben Shapiro's podcast. Meanwhile, well known alt-right Nazi Candace Owens has been posting constantly about the case and become a darling of pro-Baldoni support. When her disturbing views (she's a Holocaust denier and has engaged in danger conspiracy theorizing about everything from Jews in Hollywood to mass shooting events), they often reply with comments like "Sure, I don't agree with all her views, but..."

Meanwhile, Melissa Nathan, the crisis manager Baldoni hired to help him with his conflict with Lively not only famously worked for Johnny Depp in his takedown of Amber Heard, she also worked for Donald Trump during the "Russiagate" controversy and associated impeachment proceedings.

Meanwhile, Blake Lively is a fairly standard Hollywood liberal. Not super outspoken but has spoken out against Trump and aligns with the left on immigration and abortion. She's also close friends with Taylor Swift who, while also not super outspoken on political issues, became a very public enemy of Donald Trump by endorsing Kamala Harris in the 2024 election.

Lively is also represented in the case by Mannatt Phelps. Mannatt is somewhat unusual among big law firms in having a decidedly liberal bent. The firm is best known for its work in the healthcare space, where its hybrid legal/consulting work crosses over into advocacy for Medicaid expansion. Many Manatt lawyers and consultants are outspoken in their political views in a way that is uncommon in corporate law.

As I have watched an army of people mobilizing online against Lively, seizing on both the standard online hate directed at women (also seen in the Heard case) but also more fully embracing alt-right advocates and conspiracy theorists, I have grown increasingly uneasy. I want this to be your standard Hollywood gossip -- juicy and interesting because it involves people who are rich and attractive. But I think it's more than that. I don't think Baldoni himself is actually conspiring with the right directly, but I think he's become a useful cause to advance the alt-right in a time when we are genuinely at a dangerous crossroads with regards to the direction of our country and democracy.

I am sure this comment will be attacked. I'm sure I'll be dismissed. But there is a subtext to this controversy that is easy to miss if you are someone who is quick to dismiss or roll your eyes at Hollywood gossip. I think Jeff is missing it and it's one reason he's not understood what is really happening in these threads. But I want to put it out there.

Be careful who you listen to and use critical thinking when you read, even about Hollywood gossip. These are dark times and the weapons being used by people who want to destroy this country might come in odd disguises.

DP (I'm the person who just posted the quotes from reddit) and I think this is interesting and worth discussion. But am not surprised that the Baldoni side doesn't want to discuss it except to deny any possibility that they are being pulled into supporting someone who, by taking down a liberal woman, is perfectly in line with right wing talking points. After all, they can't get enough of Candace Owens' takedowns of Lively, either.

This case is not a right wing conspiracy. Not everything is political. The FACTS thus far based on the released EVIDENCE are that Blake Lively lied when she accused Justin Baldoni of sexual harassment. She tried to ruin an innocent man’s life.

*She & her creepy husband. This needs to be emphasized. People should honestly go to jail for this.

And more than likely it was for money in the form of rights to the sequel. So gross

This is just silly. Lively brought her harassment concerns up (the 17 points) pretty early in the production. She legit wanted them addressed so the remainder of filming would be free of the same issues. Whether you agree with her that Baldoni and co. were harassing her on purpose, or at all, is between you and your god Candace Owens I suppose, but the idea that Lively made everything up to eventually get the rights on a sequel of a movie that hadn’t even been released yet is honestly pretty laughable and logic impaired.

Nope.
Not early on at all.
It was the day after the writers strike ended.
Interestingly, it appears that writers strike means RR was home again and that coincides with when she started asking/demanding dailies.
They were able to put it off but the day that filming was supposed to resume is when her agent presented this list of demands/conditions for her to return to work.
There was nothing in her very regular and sometimes filled-with-innuendo-on-her-part text exchanges with JB that would have prepared him for that document coming.
It really seems something happened in those weeks off.

The 17 point list was after the writers strike ended, but it referenced complaints she'd made starting in pre-production. She registered numerous complaints during filming, staring on the 2nd day of filming. Nothing on the 17 point list was a surprise to Baldoni or Heath. They just disagreed it was necessary because they (1) didn't want to sign a document admitting to the issues during the first part of filming pre-strike, and (2) disagreed with Lively's requests to resolve the issues (for instance did not want to hire an IC to be with Livley on set). But the content of the list and the problems that had precipitated it were not news to them -- they'd known about these issues as early as April/May 2023 when the issues with the trainer and Baldoni asking about Lively's weight first arose.