Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up

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Anonymous wrote:The video is from Whitman HS..clearly there are thugs there as well.

That’s just one example. Many more.

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Anonymous wrote:The Entitlement of Tilden families on this thread is gross.

It is so evil to be concerned about sudden drop in your home value.

It's evil to care about your personal economic situation? You're a moron.

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Anonymous wrote:I regret buying 2 years ago in Tilden area. I knew that boudary will change but I expected half of WJ will move to Woodward and then both schools will take one elemenatry each from outside.

With all 4 options, Woodward is drastically worse than WJ.

Option 1 essentially does this. The problem is thst Woodward gets Viers Mill ES and WJ gets Rosemary Hills and Chevy Chase ES, so not equivalent demographically. Plus, Tilden is more diverse than North Bethesda MS to begin with because it encompasses more apartments in Rollins and off Parklawn.

There is anoher option( not the 3rd) which takes Viers MIll and Wheaton Wood ES. Both are 80-90% FARMS and makes Woodward around 40% FARMS.

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Anonymous wrote:Once more for those in the back:

It's the school board's job to care about schools, not your property values. Bringing up property values at all is a dog whistle, and the minute you bring it up, no one is listening to you or cares what you have to say. So please, make your case that split articulation is bad; make your case that kids shouldn't have long bus rides, or bus rides that go past another school they could be at sooner, etc. But let go of property values - it's irrelevant to redistricting

This. It’s not going to matter. But, I’d love my property value to go down. Less taxes. It only matters if you plan to sell.

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Anonymous wrote:When you keep bringing up property values you are bringing up “white flight”. That is not going to go over well.

+1 yep

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Anonymous wrote:Once more for those in the back:

It's the school board's job to care about schools, not your property values. Bringing up property values at all is a dog whistle, and the minute you bring it up, no one is listening to you or cares what you have to say. So please, make your case that split articulation is bad; make your case that kids shouldn't have long bus rides, or bus rides that go past another school they could be at sooner, etc. But let go of property values - it's irrelevant to redistricting

Agree 100%! It's a terrible argument to make if you're trying to persuade MCPS/BOE of your case. Know your audience.

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Anonymous wrote:The Entitlement of Tilden families on this thread is gross.

It is so evil to be concerned about sudden drop in your home value.

It's evil to care about your personal economic situation? You're a moron.

Why? Did you overspend on your house? I don’t care one bit. Are you planning to sell? The more your house is worth the more you pay in taxes.

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Anonymous wrote:Garrett Park and Tilden will get $300k cheaper soon.

Is that true if options other than 3? Because I don’t think MCPS can afford 3 so likey it will be off the table

Farms rate in Tilden and Garret Park is 38% in option 2 for Woodward.

FARMS of 40% will pull down any area. Many will refuse to buy there and prices will come down.

Best case for Woodwqard is 1/3rd school will be FARMS and worst case is 1/2 will be FARMS. Huge downgrade from less than 20% FARMS currently in WJ. Prices in Woodward zoned area will be depressed for years.

I guess there is something to this but there are plenty of $1M+ homes in DTSS and TKPK and people seem to buy them.

Sure, there will be plenty of even 2M+ houses will be present in Woodward zone despite FARMS going up, but they will be tiny minority. i Was simply contrasting the impact of 18% FARMS becoming 36-40% FARMS on average housing. Many of those 2M+ hpuses in don't even attend public.

Virtuallly no one attends Luxmanor ES from neighborhood. I liked the area but I like public schools. I didn't see many kids walking to school. I chatted with crossing guard and lady told me that less than 10 kids walk to school. After hearing that I decided Luxmanor neighborhood is not for me.

I always drive my kids as the walk isn’t safe in our neighborhood. I doubt all those kids go to private.

The housing prices will not go down that much except if you overpaid.

Nah, Luxmanor is safe to walk, but virtually no kids from neighborhood attend public.

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Anonymous wrote:The Entitlement of Tilden families on this thread is gross.

Deal with it. We worked hard and prioritized education to succeed. DCC families are ok with mediocre schools.

You didn't prioritize education you just prioritize having an expensive house

We could prioritize the expensive house because we are educated. And value our children's education. Unlike DCC families who drink the Kool Aid that the world is fair and if not the government should make it so.

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Tbh I am concerned about flora singer and glen haven becoming snobby. It will change the character of the neighborhoods to have all the striver parents move in.

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Anonymous wrote:Once more for those in the back:

It's the school board's job to care about schools, not your property values. Bringing up property values at all is a dog whistle, and the minute you bring it up, no one is listening to you or cares what you have to say. So please, make your case that split articulation is bad; make your case that kids shouldn't have long bus rides, or bus rides that go past another school they could be at sooner, etc. But let go of property values - it's irrelevant to redistricting

Agree 100%! It's a terrible argument to make if you're trying to persuade MCPS/BOE of your case. Know your audience.

The long bus rides are a huge issue and the lack of activity buses in the pm, evenings and weekends for lower income families. Some don’t have cars, others may work many hours.

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Anonymous wrote:Garrett Park and Tilden will get $300k cheaper soon.

Pretty much.
Caveat: Options 2 and 4 send the south side of Garrett Park to WJ ( the handful of homes on the south side of Strathmore). Town of GP, as small as it is, getting broken up.

Please! The 300K post was most likely trolling and you actually agree with that alarmist nonsense.

First of all, WJ today is not some amazing school that drives property values. It is weaker than other W schools and not much better than, for example, Richard Montgomery that has similar demographics to Woodward options 1,2 and 4.

18% FARMS to 32-38% ( without option 3) . That a huge jump in FARMS.

Gievn all elese equal, that's the case for Woodward zone, if you think that HS with FARMS of 18% and 36% will be get the same prices of houses then you are delusional.

You don't need option 3 to bring down prices in Tilden. It will happen with all options.

I am surprised to see that MCPS did not try to balance the FARMS for WJ and Woodward despite schools being so close.

Balancing WJ and Woodward would have been the best approach. However, under Options 1, 2 and 4 Tilden prices will not go down as much as some people predict. It is not all about HS. There are many other appealing things about that area.

I had to look this up because it kept getting mentioned but this is a part of the current WJ zone that is going to Woodward no matter what? And people are lamenting the tragedy of who else might also end up at Woodward?

Yep. Pretty vomit inducing. I hope these a-holes' spawn don't get assigned to my kid's DCC school

Easy easy. I am Tilden. My preference is that we diversify the schools through housing policy. Diversify neighborhoods and that should lead to more demographic balance in schools while keeping commutes and transportation logistics simple. I am not worried about housing values. Not because I can afford to lose a lot of money but because I don’t think it is possible to predict anyway and not job of MCPS. I just like having my child on as short a bus ride as possible and to walk when possible. I think even some people in DCC like that idea too, no?
There is a lot of entitlement from a few posters but it isn’t representative of an entire community of people. Remember WJ is 3000 students. Surely they are not a monolith.

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They will talk at home about how much they paid for the house that goes to the "good" school and then those kids will repeat that at the soccer field etc

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Anonymous wrote:Once more for those in the back:

It's the school board's job to care about schools, not your property values. Bringing up property values at all is a dog whistle, and the minute you bring it up, no one is listening to you or cares what you have to say. So please, make your case that split articulation is bad; make your case that kids shouldn't have long bus rides, or bus rides that go past another school they could be at sooner, etc. But let go of property values - it's irrelevant to redistricting

Yes you need to speak BOE politico talk to win this Tilden families. The truth is your property value will be hammered. But articulate the argument so the woke mob doesn't get triggered.

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Anonymous wrote:Tbh I am concerned about flora singer and glen haven becoming snobby. It will change the character of the neighborhoods to have all the striver parents move in.

The neighborhoods have already changed as many of the houses start at $600k for small blah homes. And, many are getting remodeled or replaced by flippers and going for over a million. It’s insane.