BOE - who are people voting for?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't see how anyone could vote for Zimmerman when she hasn't explained how she intends to support herself. How do we know the teachers union isn't going to be paying her to do what they day?

This is a bizarre question, and not an issue.

How is it not an issue? Zimmerman can't keep working as a BoE member. And tge Board position doesn't pay enough on its own. You don't think that's suspicious? Why won't she say what she intends to do?

Why are her finances and how does she support herself in your business? She can teach somewhere else? BOE members work so lots of options including MC. Maybe she doesn't need the money.

+1. MYOB, nosy PP.

Do you think we should get rid of all financial disclosure policies for public officials, or are you making a special exception for this case?

Do you at least agree that it would be highly inappropriate for MCEA to employ her while she serves on the board?

It is not at all unusual or suspicious for people to run for BOE and then resign from MCPS positions if they win. You're trying to stir up something out of nothing.

[Anonymous]

If this is Zimmerman or her campaign staff trying to dismiss concerns about her running for the BOE while being a teacher, which is a legitimate conflict of interest to raise, come with a better strategy. The current approach is unpersuasive.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't see how anyone could vote for Zimmerman when she hasn't explained how she intends to support herself. How do we know the teachers union isn't going to be paying her to do what they day?

This is a bizarre question, and not an issue.

How is it not an issue? Zimmerman can't keep working as a BoE member. And tge Board position doesn't pay enough on its own. You don't think that's suspicious? Why won't she say what she intends to do?

Why are her finances and how does she support herself in your business? She can teach somewhere else? BOE members work so lots of options including MC. Maybe she doesn't need the money.

+1. MYOB, nosy PP.

Do you think we should get rid of all financial disclosure policies for public officials, or are you making a special exception for this case?

Do you at least agree that it would be highly inappropriate for MCEA to employ her while she serves on the board?

It is not at all unusual or suspicious for people to run for BOE and then resign from MCPS positions if they win. You're trying to stir up something out of nothing.

It is unusual when they rely on their MCPS position for their livelihood. Zimmerman doesn't have another job and she can't retire.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't see how anyone could vote for Zimmerman when she hasn't explained how she intends to support herself. How do we know the teachers union isn't going to be paying her to do what they day?

This is a bizarre question, and not an issue.

How is it not an issue? Zimmerman can't keep working as a BoE member. And tge Board position doesn't pay enough on its own. You don't think that's suspicious? Why won't she say what she intends to do?

Why are her finances and how does she support herself in your business? She can teach somewhere else? BOE members work so lots of options including MC. Maybe she doesn't need the money.

+1. MYOB, nosy PP.

Do you think we should get rid of all financial disclosure policies for public officials, or are you making a special exception for this case?

Do you at least agree that it would be highly inappropriate for MCEA to employ her while she serves on the board?

It is not at all unusual or suspicious for people to run for BOE and then resign from MCPS positions if they win. You're trying to stir up something out of nothing.

It is unusual when they rely on their MCPS position for their livelihood. Zimmerman doesn't have another job and she can't retire.

You don't know anything about her finances. Or the finances of the other candidates either.

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Anonymous wrote:If this is Zimmerman or her campaign staff trying to dismiss concerns about her running for the BOE while being a teacher, which is a legitimate conflict of interest to raise, come with a better strategy. The current approach is unpersuasive.

It is not a conflict of interest at all.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't see how anyone could vote for Zimmerman when she hasn't explained how she intends to support herself. How do we know the teachers union isn't going to be paying her to do what they day?

This is a bizarre question, and not an issue.

How is it not an issue? Zimmerman can't keep working as a BoE member. And tge Board position doesn't pay enough on its own. You don't think that's suspicious? Why won't she say what she intends to do?

Why are her finances and how does she support herself in your business? She can teach somewhere else? BOE members work so lots of options including MC. Maybe she doesn't need the money.

+1. MYOB, nosy PP.

Do you think we should get rid of all financial disclosure policies for public officials, or are you making a special exception for this case?

Do you at least agree that it would be highly inappropriate for MCEA to employ her while she serves on the board?

It is not at all unusual or suspicious for people to run for BOE and then resign from MCPS positions if they win. You're trying to stir up something out of nothing.

It is unusual when they rely on their MCPS position for their livelihood. Zimmerman doesn't have another job and she can't retire.

You don't know anything about her finances. Or the finances of the other candidates either.

We know no other candidate has to quit their job- and lose their income- if they win. Particularly given her current position as a teacher, that leads to rational questions about who is supporting her and what conflicts of interest she may have.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Looking forward to Montoya taking out Harris.

A teacher who has worked at North Chevy Chase Elementary School for many years told me that Montoya, when she was NCC’s PTA President in 2023-2024, bullied teachers and abused her position in the PTA. “ … she bullied a first year teacher to the point of tears during parent - teacher conferences. That young woman has since left teaching all together. She tried to get the much beloved interim principal, Matt Johnson, fired. Matt used to be the principal at Eastern MS. She blocked him from attending PTA meetings, and she bounced parents she didn’t like from the PTA Zoom mtgs. She couldn’t fill five of the ten PTA board positions b/c so few wanted to work with her. There were no cultural arts programs last year. She flouted the PTA bylaws and refused to resign her position as NCC PTA prez when she decided to run for BoE. The Culture & Heritage (formerly known as International Night) was a hot mess. She wasn’t happy with what the teachers organized for the 2023 event, so she decided to take command of the 2024 event. She ended up using every single activity that the teachers used in 2023.” When she found out that the NCC community was upset over her handling of the Culture and Heritage Night, she got her husband to submit a Maryland Public Information Act request for all emails from NCC staff that mentioned the event as an intimidation tactic. The teacher also said "The MCEA building reps for NCCES chose not to bring forward a motion to ask MCEA to rescind their Apple Ballot endorsement of Montoya. They are too scared of retribution. It's really sad. I worked at this school for 25 years. These are good people. They do not deserve to be treated this way by anyone, much less a candidate for BoEducation."

I don’t know about you, but I don’t want to vote for someone who treated teachers in her kids’ school like that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If this is Zimmerman or her campaign staff trying to dismiss concerns about her running for the BOE while being a teacher, which is a legitimate conflict of interest to raise, come with a better strategy. The current approach is unpersuasive.

It is not a conflict of interest at all.

Of course it is. That's why she is going to have to resign.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Looking forward to Montoya taking out Harris.

A teacher who has worked at North Chevy Chase Elementary School for many years told me that Montoya, when she was NCC’s PTA President in 2023-2024, bullied teachers and abused her position in the PTA. “ … she bullied a first year teacher to the point of tears during parent - teacher conferences. That young woman has since left teaching all together. She tried to get the much beloved interim principal, Matt Johnson, fired. Matt used to be the principal at Eastern MS. She blocked him from attending PTA meetings, and she bounced parents she didn’t like from the PTA Zoom mtgs. She couldn’t fill five of the ten PTA board positions b/c so few wanted to work with her. There were no cultural arts programs last year. She flouted the PTA bylaws and refused to resign her position as NCC PTA prez when she decided to run for BoE. The Culture & Heritage (formerly known as International Night) was a hot mess. She wasn’t happy with what the teachers organized for the 2023 event, so she decided to take command of the 2024 event. She ended up using every single activity that the teachers used in 2023.” When she found out that the NCC community was upset over her handling of the Culture and Heritage Night, she got her husband to submit a Maryland Public Information Act request for all emails from NCC staff that mentioned the event as an intimidation tactic. The teacher also said "The MCEA building reps for NCCES chose not to bring forward a motion to ask MCEA to rescind their Apple Ballot endorsement of Montoya. They are too scared of retribution. It's really sad. I worked at this school for 25 years. These are good people. They do not deserve to be treated this way by anyone, much less a candidate for BoEducation."

I don’t know about you, but I don’t want to vote for someone who treated teachers in her kids’ school like that.

It's a bit cowardly to not move forward with asking the MCEA to rescind the Apple Ballot endorsement but instead, resort to an anonymous forum to throw dirt on her name in ways that are pretty much unverifiable.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If this is Zimmerman or her campaign staff trying to dismiss concerns about her running for the BOE while being a teacher, which is a legitimate conflict of interest to raise, come with a better strategy. The current approach is unpersuasive.

It is not a conflict of interest at all.

Of course it is. That's why she is going to have to resign.

The question was about running for the BOE while being a teacher, and there is no expectation of resigning unless she would win the election, in which case she would need to resign before being sworn in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If this is Zimmerman or her campaign staff trying to dismiss concerns about her running for the BOE while being a teacher, which is a legitimate conflict of interest to raise, come with a better strategy. The current approach is unpersuasive.

Feels more like Diaz or her campaign staff, or their GOP and right wing endorsers, slinging mud.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If this is Zimmerman or her campaign staff trying to dismiss concerns about her running for the BOE while being a teacher, which is a legitimate conflict of interest to raise, come with a better strategy. The current approach is unpersuasive.

It is not a conflict of interest at all.

Of course it is. That's why she is going to have to resign.

The question was about running for the BOE while being a teacher, and there is no expectation of resigning unless she would win the election, in which case she would need to resign before being sworn in.

You're being pedantic. The conflict of interest continues if MCEA is going to pay her while she's on the BoE.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't see how anyone could vote for Zimmerman when she hasn't explained how she intends to support herself. How do we know the teachers union isn't going to be paying her to do what they day?

This is a bizarre question, and not an issue.

How is it not an issue? Zimmerman can't keep working as a BoE member. And tge Board position doesn't pay enough on its own. You don't think that's suspicious? Why won't she say what she intends to do?

Why are her finances and how does she support herself in your business? She can teach somewhere else? BOE members work so lots of options including MC. Maybe she doesn't need the money.

+1. MYOB, nosy PP.

Do you think we should get rid of all financial disclosure policies for public officials, or are you making a special exception for this case?

Do you at least agree that it would be highly inappropriate for MCEA to employ her while she serves on the board?

It is not at all unusual or suspicious for people to run for BOE and then resign from MCPS positions if they win. You're trying to stir up something out of nothing.

It is unusual when they rely on their MCPS position for their livelihood. Zimmerman doesn't have another job and she can't retire.

Why do you care so much about her finances? She can get a job somehwere else. MC seems to like BOE members as that's how they get so much of MCPS funding. They can find her a job there. No reason she should quit until she wins.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If this is Zimmerman or her campaign staff trying to dismiss concerns about her running for the BOE while being a teacher, which is a legitimate conflict of interest to raise, come with a better strategy. The current approach is unpersuasive.

It is not a conflict of interest at all.

Of course it is. That's why she is going to have to resign.

The question was about running for the BOE while being a teacher, and there is no expectation of resigning unless she would win the election, in which case she would need to resign before being sworn in.

You're being pedantic. The conflict of interest continues if MCEA is going to pay her while she's on the BoE.

I don't see any conflict of interest. The president works for MC, who gets a huge amount of funding from MCPS. That's a conflict of interest. Why is that Ok?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't see how anyone could vote for Zimmerman when she hasn't explained how she intends to support herself. How do we know the teachers union isn't going to be paying her to do what they day?

This is a bizarre question, and not an issue.

How is it not an issue? Zimmerman can't keep working as a BoE member. And tge Board position doesn't pay enough on its own. You don't think that's suspicious? Why won't she say what she intends to do?

Why are her finances and how does she support herself in your business? She can teach somewhere else? BOE members work so lots of options including MC. Maybe she doesn't need the money.

+1. MYOB, nosy PP.

Do you think we should get rid of all financial disclosure policies for public officials, or are you making a special exception for this case?

Do you at least agree that it would be highly inappropriate for MCEA to employ her while she serves on the board?

It is not at all unusual or suspicious for people to run for BOE and then resign from MCPS positions if they win. You're trying to stir up something out of nothing.

It is unusual when they rely on their MCPS position for their livelihood. Zimmerman doesn't have another job and she can't retire.

Why do you care so much about her finances? She can get a job somehwere else. MC seems to like BOE members as that's how they get so much of MCPS funding. They can find her a job there. No reason she should quit until she wins.

BoE itself is nearly a full-time job, as has been discussed quite a bit. That significantly limits other employment opportunities.