ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

Anonymous
There has one been one ID session - 2012G. So if there are any offers out, it has to be for that team.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There has one been one ID session - 2012G. So if there are any offers out, it has to be for that team.


That's nor accurate. There was one for 2010 g last night right after. And then 08 girls after that. Boys sessions start tonight
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There has one been one ID session - 2012G. So if there are any offers out, it has to be for that team.


That's nor accurate. There was one for 2010 g last night right after. And then 08 girls after that. Boys sessions start tonight


Sorry - you are right. Misread the schedule.
Anonymous
Looks like JW is being scooped up by Arlington. He was at Arlington's ID session last night overlooking tryouts that consisted mostly of McLean boys.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There has one been one ID session - 2012G. So if there are any offers out, it has to be for that team.


That evening there was 3, this was for 2010.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’m all for open communication, but McLean may talk too much. Lots of finger pointing and throwing people under the bus in a public way. I’m not convinced that helps and I’m not sure the town hall is going to make anyone feel better. Boys parents angry about coaches, girls parents angry it’s all the boys fault. As much as I like information I may just choose to stick with the reality of tryouts as opposed to the anger of the last few weeks. Just me, you can still post what happens!


Agree with you.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Message from Nadir on Fairfax VA Union Girls Program

Current VA Union Girls ECNL NL Families,
 
Some of you have reached out with understandable concerns regarding the club’s messaging on Fairfax VA Union, and with respect to the boys’ program. While the intent has been to provide full transparency, I want to stress that the decision to merge was not made under pressure from ECNL for our girls’ teams. VA Union’s or Brave’s ECNL girls were not flagged for performance. 


The ECNL was created to provide top level competition and player development in the country – to have the best players and coaches compete against the best. The ECNL supports, and we all agree, that increasing our player pool will help us continue to perform at this level. We are excited about the opportunity to keep getting stronger as a club, working with BRAVE coaches.  

With change comes uncertainty, but for elite players, Fairfax VA Union will be the surest thing in our area. No other local club has retained the same coaching staff or directors for multiple years – over 10 years in McLean. Our leadership does not allow staff to cut corners in player development just to win games. We know our style of play competes nationally and wins championships. While good athletes with poor style of play and low soccer IQ can win locally and at a young age, this does not find success against great athletes in Texas and Southern California. McLean has been the only local club to make multiple national championship finals. 

As for staff, Clyde is one of the most well-respected coaches/leaders locally and nationally. Under his leadership, McLean was the only club in our area to be accepted into the ECNL based on merits of the girl’s program when the ECNL consisted of only the top 60 some clubs in the country (almost 15 years ago). As the soccer landscape changed, BRYC (now BRAVE) was added as the next best club based on its girl’s merits. All the other local clubs were admitted later because the ECNL wanted their boys’ programs to join so the league could compete with DA/GA/MLS Next.

Our girls’ program is not under any probationary period and our status will have no bearing on the boys’ program. While all boys and girls programs are under ECNL’s review each year, they know our girls leadership and that a name change or merger will not discourage their utmost respect for our club, the best girls’ program in the DMV for the last 20 plus years. 

We look forward to tryouts starting tonight for some groups. If you have any questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to reach out. If anyone has attended another ID session or is thinking about it and has not talked to their coach, I encourage you to reach out before making a decision.  

Thanks!
 
Nadir Moumen
Fairfax VA Union ECNL Girls Director
nadir.moumen@mcleansoccer.org (mailto:nadir.moumen@mcleansoccer.org)


Doesn't this mean that the whole this was a lie from the beginning? The girls were never in danger so why do they need to merge? Parents need to be asking more questions. It also begs the question even more why the MYS boys leadership were not involved the negotiations. I can see now why they are leaving. The MYS leadership and board are so inept it baffles me they still have jobs. The town hall is going to be fireworks.


This email is hilarious!

Hi we are wonderful, but not as wonderful as we used to be, and yes our club was really good but now isn’t as good, but it’s been the same leadership, which is good! Or wait is it bad because it means the club has slowly declined under the same leadership? Wait no, let’s try and insult other clubs and literal children instead, yea that’s a better tactic.

What a mess.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Message from Nadir on Fairfax VA Union Girls Program

Current VA Union Girls ECNL NL Families,
 
Some of you have reached out with understandable concerns regarding the club’s messaging on Fairfax VA Union, and with respect to the boys’ program. While the intent has been to provide full transparency, I want to stress that the decision to merge was not made under pressure from ECNL for our girls’ teams. VA Union’s or Brave’s ECNL girls were not flagged for performance. 


The ECNL was created to provide top level competition and player development in the country – to have the best players and coaches compete against the best. The ECNL supports, and we all agree, that increasing our player pool will help us continue to perform at this level. We are excited about the opportunity to keep getting stronger as a club, working with BRAVE coaches.  

With change comes uncertainty, but for elite players, Fairfax VA Union will be the surest thing in our area. No other local club has retained the same coaching staff or directors for multiple years – over 10 years in McLean. Our leadership does not allow staff to cut corners in player development just to win games. We know our style of play competes nationally and wins championships. While good athletes with poor style of play and low soccer IQ can win locally and at a young age, this does not find success against great athletes in Texas and Southern California. McLean has been the only local club to make multiple national championship finals. 

As for staff, Clyde is one of the most well-respected coaches/leaders locally and nationally. Under his leadership, McLean was the only club in our area to be accepted into the ECNL based on merits of the girl’s program when the ECNL consisted of only the top 60 some clubs in the country (almost 15 years ago). As the soccer landscape changed, BRYC (now BRAVE) was added as the next best club based on its girl’s merits. All the other local clubs were admitted later because the ECNL wanted their boys’ programs to join so the league could compete with DA/GA/MLS Next.

Our girls’ program is not under any probationary period and our status will have no bearing on the boys’ program. While all boys and girls programs are under ECNL’s review each year, they know our girls leadership and that a name change or merger will not discourage their utmost respect for our club, the best girls’ program in the DMV for the last 20 plus years. 

We look forward to tryouts starting tonight for some groups. If you have any questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to reach out. If anyone has attended another ID session or is thinking about it and has not talked to their coach, I encourage you to reach out before making a decision.  

Thanks!
 
Nadir Moumen
Fairfax VA Union ECNL Girls Director
nadir.moumen@mcleansoccer.org (mailto:nadir.moumen@mcleansoccer.org)


Doesn't this mean that the whole this was a lie from the beginning? The girls were never in danger so why do they need to merge? Parents need to be asking more questions. It also begs the question even more why the MYS boys leadership were not involved the negotiations. I can see now why they are leaving. The MYS leadership and board are so inept it baffles me they still have jobs. The town hall is going to be fireworks.


This email is hilarious!

Hi we are wonderful, but not as wonderful as we used to be, and yes our club was really good but now isn’t as good, but it’s been the same leadership, which is good! Or wait is it bad because it means the club has slowly declined under the same leadership? Wait no, let’s try and insult other clubs and literal children instead, yea that’s a better tactic.

What a mess.


NM forgot to mention that with the merge, we will be cutting half of the roster... If a player asks the coach whether they should try out at a different club, would the coach advise them against it or encourage them to explore other tryouts?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Message from Nadir on Fairfax VA Union Girls Program

Current VA Union Girls ECNL NL Families,
 
Some of you have reached out with understandable concerns regarding the club’s messaging on Fairfax VA Union, and with respect to the boys’ program. While the intent has been to provide full transparency, I want to stress that the decision to merge was not made under pressure from ECNL for our girls’ teams. VA Union’s or Brave’s ECNL girls were not flagged for performance. 


The ECNL was created to provide top level competition and player development in the country – to have the best players and coaches compete against the best. The ECNL supports, and we all agree, that increasing our player pool will help us continue to perform at this level. We are excited about the opportunity to keep getting stronger as a club, working with BRAVE coaches.  

With change comes uncertainty, but for elite players, Fairfax VA Union will be the surest thing in our area. No other local club has retained the same coaching staff or directors for multiple years – over 10 years in McLean. Our leadership does not allow staff to cut corners in player development just to win games. We know our style of play competes nationally and wins championships. While good athletes with poor style of play and low soccer IQ can win locally and at a young age, this does not find success against great athletes in Texas and Southern California. McLean has been the only local club to make multiple national championship finals. 

As for staff, Clyde is one of the most well-respected coaches/leaders locally and nationally. Under his leadership, McLean was the only club in our area to be accepted into the ECNL based on merits of the girl’s program when the ECNL consisted of only the top 60 some clubs in the country (almost 15 years ago). As the soccer landscape changed, BRYC (now BRAVE) was added as the next best club based on its girl’s merits. All the other local clubs were admitted later because the ECNL wanted their boys’ programs to join so the league could compete with DA/GA/MLS Next.

Our girls’ program is not under any probationary period and our status will have no bearing on the boys’ program. While all boys and girls programs are under ECNL’s review each year, they know our girls leadership and that a name change or merger will not discourage their utmost respect for our club, the best girls’ program in the DMV for the last 20 plus years. 

We look forward to tryouts starting tonight for some groups. If you have any questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to reach out. If anyone has attended another ID session or is thinking about it and has not talked to their coach, I encourage you to reach out before making a decision.  

Thanks!
 
Nadir Moumen
Fairfax VA Union ECNL Girls Director
nadir.moumen@mcleansoccer.org (mailto:nadir.moumen@mcleansoccer.org)


Doesn't this mean that the whole this was a lie from the beginning? The girls were never in danger so why do they need to merge? Parents need to be asking more questions. It also begs the question even more why the MYS boys leadership were not involved the negotiations. I can see now why they are leaving. The MYS leadership and board are so inept it baffles me they still have jobs. The town hall is going to be fireworks.


This email is hilarious!

Hi we are wonderful, but not as wonderful as we used to be, and yes our club was really good but now isn’t as good, but it’s been the same leadership, which is good! Or wait is it bad because it means the club has slowly declined under the same leadership? Wait no, let’s try and insult other clubs and literal children instead, yea that’s a better tactic.

What a mess.


NM forgot to mention that with the merge, we will be cutting half of the roster... If a player asks the coach whether they should try out at a different club, would the coach advise them against it or encourage them to explore other tryouts?



any dd or ds brave enough to ask their coach???
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Message from Nadir on Fairfax VA Union Girls Program

Current VA Union Girls ECNL NL Families,
 
Some of you have reached out with understandable concerns regarding the club’s messaging on Fairfax VA Union, and with respect to the boys’ program. While the intent has been to provide full transparency, I want to stress that the decision to merge was not made under pressure from ECNL for our girls’ teams. VA Union’s or Brave’s ECNL girls were not flagged for performance. 


The ECNL was created to provide top level competition and player development in the country – to have the best players and coaches compete against the best. The ECNL supports, and we all agree, that increasing our player pool will help us continue to perform at this level. We are excited about the opportunity to keep getting stronger as a club, working with BRAVE coaches.  

With change comes uncertainty, but for elite players, Fairfax VA Union will be the surest thing in our area. No other local club has retained the same coaching staff or directors for multiple years – over 10 years in McLean. Our leadership does not allow staff to cut corners in player development just to win games. We know our style of play competes nationally and wins championships. While good athletes with poor style of play and low soccer IQ can win locally and at a young age, this does not find success against great athletes in Texas and Southern California. McLean has been the only local club to make multiple national championship finals. 

As for staff, Clyde is one of the most well-respected coaches/leaders locally and nationally. Under his leadership, McLean was the only club in our area to be accepted into the ECNL based on merits of the girl’s program when the ECNL consisted of only the top 60 some clubs in the country (almost 15 years ago). As the soccer landscape changed, BRYC (now BRAVE) was added as the next best club based on its girl’s merits. All the other local clubs were admitted later because the ECNL wanted their boys’ programs to join so the league could compete with DA/GA/MLS Next.

Our girls’ program is not under any probationary period and our status will have no bearing on the boys’ program. While all boys and girls programs are under ECNL’s review each year, they know our girls leadership and that a name change or merger will not discourage their utmost respect for our club, the best girls’ program in the DMV for the last 20 plus years. 

We look forward to tryouts starting tonight for some groups. If you have any questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to reach out. If anyone has attended another ID session or is thinking about it and has not talked to their coach, I encourage you to reach out before making a decision.  

Thanks!
 
Nadir Moumen
Fairfax VA Union ECNL Girls Director
nadir.moumen@mcleansoccer.org (mailto:nadir.moumen@mcleansoccer.org)


Doesn't this mean that the whole this was a lie from the beginning? The girls were never in danger so why do they need to merge? Parents need to be asking more questions. It also begs the question even more why the MYS boys leadership were not involved the negotiations. I can see now why they are leaving. The MYS leadership and board are so inept it baffles me they still have jobs. The town hall is going to be fireworks.


This email is hilarious!

Hi we are wonderful, but not as wonderful as we used to be, and yes our club was really good but now isn’t as good, but it’s been the same leadership, which is good! Or wait is it bad because it means the club has slowly declined under the same leadership? Wait no, let’s try and insult other clubs and literal children instead, yea that’s a better tactic.

What a mess.


NM forgot to mention that with the merge, we will be cutting half of the roster... If a player asks the coach whether they should try out at a different club, would the coach advise them against it or encourage them to explore other tryouts?


If your current players are not seeking out backup options, they are missing the bus. better start to sign up for any and all tryouts in this area! Nothing is guaranteed (except for a very select few).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Looks like JW is being scooped up by Arlington. He was at Arlington's ID session last night overlooking tryouts that consisted mostly of McLean boys.


Pretty sure kids would have gone to Arlington already if they could have made the cut and want the commute. The bottom half of VA Union rosters (presumably most at risk in a merger) are not going to make any Arlington ECNL teams.
Anonymous
Except for maybe 08 which is strong at Union most Arlington Boy teams are much stronger with nice fat rosters. Can imagine them taking JW but not that being a lifeline for many Union players. My guess tryouts full but offers few.
Anonymous
This is ECNL- this is top of the line, the most competitive environment. If you think its unfair your player is about to get cut...maybe you don't understand the environment your player is pushing for...what do you think it will be in college, pro, etc
Anonymous
I like that McLean is trying to communicate with parents and explain. This isn't an easy situation and they appear to be trying their best. Give them a break. You don't see that on the BRYC side. You can't get a response even if you email anyone at BRYC. They seem to think that ignoring their parents is the best solution to everything, yet I got a response within an hour of emailing someone at McLean.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Message from Nadir on Fairfax VA Union Girls Program

Current VA Union Girls ECNL NL Families,
 
Some of you have reached out with understandable concerns regarding the club’s messaging on Fairfax VA Union, and with respect to the boys’ program. While the intent has been to provide full transparency, I want to stress that the decision to merge was not made under pressure from ECNL for our girls’ teams. VA Union’s or Brave’s ECNL girls were not flagged for performance. 


The ECNL was created to provide top level competition and player development in the country – to have the best players and coaches compete against the best. The ECNL supports, and we all agree, that increasing our player pool will help us continue to perform at this level. We are excited about the opportunity to keep getting stronger as a club, working with BRAVE coaches.  

With change comes uncertainty, but for elite players, Fairfax VA Union will be the surest thing in our area. No other local club has retained the same coaching staff or directors for multiple years – over 10 years in McLean. Our leadership does not allow staff to cut corners in player development just to win games. We know our style of play competes nationally and wins championships. While good athletes with poor style of play and low soccer IQ can win locally and at a young age, this does not find success against great athletes in Texas and Southern California. McLean has been the only local club to make multiple national championship finals. 

As for staff, Clyde is one of the most well-respected coaches/leaders locally and nationally. Under his leadership, McLean was the only club in our area to be accepted into the ECNL based on merits of the girl’s program when the ECNL consisted of only the top 60 some clubs in the country (almost 15 years ago). As the soccer landscape changed, BRYC (now BRAVE) was added as the next best club based on its girl’s merits. All the other local clubs were admitted later because the ECNL wanted their boys’ programs to join so the league could compete with DA/GA/MLS Next.

Our girls’ program is not under any probationary period and our status will have no bearing on the boys’ program. While all boys and girls programs are under ECNL’s review each year, they know our girls leadership and that a name change or merger will not discourage their utmost respect for our club, the best girls’ program in the DMV for the last 20 plus years. 

We look forward to tryouts starting tonight for some groups. If you have any questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to reach out. If anyone has attended another ID session or is thinking about it and has not talked to their coach, I encourage you to reach out before making a decision.  

Thanks!
 
Nadir Moumen
Fairfax VA Union ECNL Girls Director
nadir.moumen@mcleansoccer.org (mailto:nadir.moumen@mcleansoccer.org)


Doesn't this mean that the whole this was a lie from the beginning? The girls were never in danger so why do they need to merge? Parents need to be asking more questions. It also begs the question even more why the MYS boys leadership were not involved the negotiations. I can see now why they are leaving. The MYS leadership and board are so inept it baffles me they still have jobs. The town hall is going to be fireworks.


This email is hilarious!

Hi we are wonderful, but not as wonderful as we used to be, and yes our club was really good but now isn’t as good, but it’s been the same leadership, which is good! Or wait is it bad because it means the club has slowly declined under the same leadership? Wait no, let’s try and insult other clubs and literal children instead, yea that’s a better tactic.

What a mess.


NM forgot to mention that with the merge, we will be cutting half of the roster... If a player asks the coach whether they should try out at a different club, would the coach advise them against it or encourage them to explore other tryouts?


Also skirted around saying that their coaches, etc went from having 100% of the say, down to 33.3 with the merger. Things won't just continue to run as they did with old VA Union
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