ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

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Anonymous wrote:First girls trials were tonight. Any report backs?


2008G - 44 players included 5 goalies
My dd said MV announced he is the head coach, BL is his assistant

Offer will be send out, next ID sessions are invitation. Good luck to the girls … will be tearful for half of the girls… good job Bunions


30+ for 2010's a few external players mixed in. Your typical ID session...Top field & Bottom field. Same announcement as PP but opposite the 08's....MV announced ML will be HC and MV his Assistant. ML, MV, LO, NM, BL, KL, CW in attendance.


How many GK?

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Anonymous wrote:Message from Nadir on Fairfax VA Union Girls Program

Current VA Union Girls ECNL NL Families,
 
Some of you have reached out with understandable concerns regarding the club’s messaging on Fairfax VA Union, and with respect to the boys’ program. While the intent has been to provide full transparency, I want to stress that the decision to merge was not made under pressure from ECNL for our girls’ teams. VA Union’s or Brave’s ECNL girls were not flagged for performance. 


The ECNL was created to provide top level competition and player development in the country – to have the best players and coaches compete against the best. The ECNL supports, and we all agree, that increasing our player pool will help us continue to perform at this level. We are excited about the opportunity to keep getting stronger as a club, working with BRAVE coaches.  

With change comes uncertainty, but for elite players, Fairfax VA Union will be the surest thing in our area. No other local club has retained the same coaching staff or directors for multiple years – over 10 years in McLean. Our leadership does not allow staff to cut corners in player development just to win games. We know our style of play competes nationally and wins championships. While good athletes with poor style of play and low soccer IQ can win locally and at a young age, this does not find success against great athletes in Texas and Southern California. McLean has been the only local club to make multiple national championship finals. 

As for staff, Clyde is one of the most well-respected coaches/leaders locally and nationally. Under his leadership, McLean was the only club in our area to be accepted into the ECNL based on merits of the girl’s program when the ECNL consisted of only the top 60 some clubs in the country (almost 15 years ago). As the soccer landscape changed, BRYC (now BRAVE) was added as the next best club based on its girl’s merits. All the other local clubs were admitted later because the ECNL wanted their boys’ programs to join so the league could compete with DA/GA/MLS Next.

Our girls’ program is not under any probationary period and our status will have no bearing on the boys’ program. While all boys and girls programs are under ECNL’s review each year, they know our girls leadership and that a name change or merger will not discourage their utmost respect for our club, the best girls’ program in the DMV for the last 20 plus years. 

We look forward to tryouts starting tonight for some groups. If you have any questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to reach out. If anyone has attended another ID session or is thinking about it and has not talked to their coach, I encourage you to reach out before making a decision.  

Thanks!
 
Nadir Moumen
Fairfax VA Union ECNL Girls Director
nadir.moumen@mcleansoccer.org (mailto:nadir.moumen@mcleansoccer.org)


Doesn't this mean that the whole this was a lie from the beginning? The girls were never in danger so why do they need to merge? Parents need to be asking more questions. It also begs the question even more why the MYS boys leadership were not involved the negotiations. I can see now why they are leaving. The MYS leadership and board are so inept it baffles me they still have jobs. The town hall is going to be fireworks.


Are you stupid? you can't just merge one side and not the other...thats not how it works.
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My DD just got an offer via email. Has anyone else heard anything?
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Anonymous wrote:Message from Nadir on Fairfax VA Union Girls Program

Current VA Union Girls ECNL NL Families,
 
Some of you have reached out with understandable concerns regarding the club’s messaging on Fairfax VA Union, and with respect to the boys’ program. While the intent has been to provide full transparency, I want to stress that the decision to merge was not made under pressure from ECNL for our girls’ teams. VA Union’s or Brave’s ECNL girls were not flagged for performance. 


The ECNL was created to provide top level competition and player development in the country – to have the best players and coaches compete against the best. The ECNL supports, and we all agree, that increasing our player pool will help us continue to perform at this level. We are excited about the opportunity to keep getting stronger as a club, working with BRAVE coaches.  

With change comes uncertainty, but for elite players, Fairfax VA Union will be the surest thing in our area. No other local club has retained the same coaching staff or directors for multiple years – over 10 years in McLean. Our leadership does not allow staff to cut corners in player development just to win games. We know our style of play competes nationally and wins championships. While good athletes with poor style of play and low soccer IQ can win locally and at a young age, this does not find success against great athletes in Texas and Southern California. McLean has been the only local club to make multiple national championship finals. 

As for staff, Clyde is one of the most well-respected coaches/leaders locally and nationally. Under his leadership, McLean was the only club in our area to be accepted into the ECNL based on merits of the girl’s program when the ECNL consisted of only the top 60 some clubs in the country (almost 15 years ago). As the soccer landscape changed, BRYC (now BRAVE) was added as the next best club based on its girl’s merits. All the other local clubs were admitted later because the ECNL wanted their boys’ programs to join so the league could compete with DA/GA/MLS Next.

Our girls’ program is not under any probationary period and our status will have no bearing on the boys’ program. While all boys and girls programs are under ECNL’s review each year, they know our girls leadership and that a name change or merger will not discourage their utmost respect for our club, the best girls’ program in the DMV for the last 20 plus years. 

We look forward to tryouts starting tonight for some groups. If you have any questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to reach out. If anyone has attended another ID session or is thinking about it and has not talked to their coach, I encourage you to reach out before making a decision.  

Thanks!
 
Nadir Moumen
Fairfax VA Union ECNL Girls Director
nadir.moumen@mcleansoccer.org (mailto:nadir.moumen@mcleansoccer.org)


Doesn't this mean that the whole this was a lie from the beginning? The girls were never in danger so why do they need to merge? Parents need to be asking more questions. It also begs the question even more why the MYS boys leadership were not involved the negotiations. I can see now why they are leaving. The MYS leadership and board are so inept it baffles me they still have jobs. The town hall is going to be fireworks.


Are you stupid? you can't just merge one side and not the other...thats not how it works.




“While good athletes with poor style of play and low soccer IQ can win locally and at a young age”

Nadir calling out Arlington? lol
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Anonymous wrote:My DD just got an offer via email. Has anyone else heard anything?


Which club is your DD coming from and which year?
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Anonymous wrote:2012s, 50-60 players. 6 goalies. Clear top field. Light on BRYC. Don't know about externals or VYS. Couldn't tell by numbers if they were pre grouped.


Did they say if the second session is invite only for the 2012 group? Any mention of when offers will start going out?


I think all are to come. Not sure there were any girls outside the three orgs on the "top" field.



Some kids got an offer on the spot.


This isn’t true. Coaches specifically said to the entire group they needed time to review and not to expect immediate offers.


I guess you didn't see the individual conversations. Of course their message to the entire group is that, but the individual conversations aren't the same.


Nice try, troll. Go back to the SYC thread. I am 100% positive they did not give field offers.


Ok, champ. Keep thinking that. Got our offer this morning, which we were told to expect.
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Anonymous wrote:My DD just got an offer via email. Has anyone else heard anything?


Which club is your DD coming from and which year?



What year? Boys or Girls?
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Anonymous wrote:My DD just got an offer via email. Has anyone else heard anything?


What age group?
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Anonymous wrote:Message from Nadir on Fairfax VA Union Girls Program

Current VA Union Girls ECNL NL Families,
 
Some of you have reached out with understandable concerns regarding the club’s messaging on Fairfax VA Union, and with respect to the boys’ program. While the intent has been to provide full transparency, I want to stress that the decision to merge was not made under pressure from ECNL for our girls’ teams. VA Union’s or Brave’s ECNL girls were not flagged for performance. 


The ECNL was created to provide top level competition and player development in the country – to have the best players and coaches compete against the best. The ECNL supports, and we all agree, that increasing our player pool will help us continue to perform at this level. We are excited about the opportunity to keep getting stronger as a club, working with BRAVE coaches.  

With change comes uncertainty, but for elite players, Fairfax VA Union will be the surest thing in our area. No other local club has retained the same coaching staff or directors for multiple years – over 10 years in McLean. Our leadership does not allow staff to cut corners in player development just to win games. We know our style of play competes nationally and wins championships. While good athletes with poor style of play and low soccer IQ can win locally and at a young age, this does not find success against great athletes in Texas and Southern California. McLean has been the only local club to make multiple national championship finals. 

As for staff, Clyde is one of the most well-respected coaches/leaders locally and nationally. Under his leadership, McLean was the only club in our area to be accepted into the ECNL based on merits of the girl’s program when the ECNL consisted of only the top 60 some clubs in the country (almost 15 years ago). As the soccer landscape changed, BRYC (now BRAVE) was added as the next best club based on its girl’s merits. All the other local clubs were admitted later because the ECNL wanted their boys’ programs to join so the league could compete with DA/GA/MLS Next.

Our girls’ program is not under any probationary period and our status will have no bearing on the boys’ program. While all boys and girls programs are under ECNL’s review each year, they know our girls leadership and that a name change or merger will not discourage their utmost respect for our club, the best girls’ program in the DMV for the last 20 plus years. 

We look forward to tryouts starting tonight for some groups. If you have any questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to reach out. If anyone has attended another ID session or is thinking about it and has not talked to their coach, I encourage you to reach out before making a decision.  

Thanks!
 
Nadir Moumen
Fairfax VA Union ECNL Girls Director
nadir.moumen@mcleansoccer.org (mailto:nadir.moumen@mcleansoccer.org)


Doesn't this mean that the whole this was a lie from the beginning? The girls were never in danger so why do they need to merge? Parents need to be asking more questions. It also begs the question even more why the MYS boys leadership were not involved the negotiations. I can see now why they are leaving. The MYS leadership and board are so inept it baffles me they still have jobs. The town hall is going to be fireworks.


Are you stupid? you can't just merge one side and not the other...thats not how it works.




“While good athletes with poor style of play and low soccer IQ can win locally and at a young age”

Nadir calling out Arlington? lol


lol Loudoun Soccer
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Anonymous wrote:2012s, 50-60 players. 6 goalies. Clear top field. Light on BRYC. Don't know about externals or VYS. Couldn't tell by numbers if they were pre grouped.


Did they say if the second session is invite only for the 2012 group? Any mention of when offers will start going out?


I think all are to come. Not sure there were any girls outside the three orgs on the "top" field.



Some kids got an offer on the spot.


This isn’t true. Coaches specifically said to the entire group they needed time to review and not to expect immediate offers.


I guess you didn't see the individual conversations. Of course their message to the entire group is that, but the individual conversations aren't the same.


Nice try, troll. Go back to the SYC thread. I am 100% positive they did not give field offers.


Ok, champ. Keep thinking that. Got our offer this morning, which we were told to expect.


Again, which club and what age? A lot of disinformation on this right now to try and rattle people. Are you just here to brag?
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Anonymous wrote:My DD just got an offer via email. Has anyone else heard anything?


No but it certainly changes the urgency and the approach to solve the problem. From all accounts the MYS boys leadership were not included in negotiations. The girls leader NM led this move and it had nothing to do with their program. Begs the question if the threat was real to begin with if they lied about the girls being in danger. What other options could they have explored. Let Brave die and the Girls take the players anyways and there is no disruption of staff. Lose boys ecnl and the Boys play USYS NL since that’s their level anyways and keep the coaching staff and parents happy. Or maybe attempt a bid for Boys MLS next with BRYC and Vienna? If the league kicks boys and brave out they can’t stop a move to another league. Would be a strong play to really improve all clubs. The league wouldn’t allow that type of move hence the threat not really being a threat. This was a wet dream of NM and he played his card well. Give up boys control to Brave and he get a new source of talent to recruit from (since when has NM developed a young player), and expand his footprint of totalfutbol camps. Genius move.
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Anonymous wrote:2012s, 50-60 players. 6 goalies. Clear top field. Light on BRYC. Don't know about externals or VYS. Couldn't tell by numbers if they were pre grouped.


Did they say if the second session is invite only for the 2012 group? Any mention of when offers will start going out?


I think all are to come. Not sure there were any girls outside the three orgs on the "top" field.



Some kids got an offer on the spot.


This isn’t true. Coaches specifically said to the entire group they needed time to review and not to expect immediate offers.


I guess you didn't see the individual conversations. Of course their message to the entire group is that, but the individual conversations aren't the same.


Nice try, troll. Go back to the SYC thread. I am 100% positive they did not give field offers.


Ok, champ. Keep thinking that. Got our offer this morning, which we were told to expect.


Again, which club and what age? A lot of disinformation on this right now to try and rattle people. Are you just here to brag?


2012. There have been no other Union ID sessions yet.
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I’m all for open communication, but McLean may talk too much. Lots of finger pointing and throwing people under the bus in a public way. I’m not convinced that helps and I’m not sure the town hall is going to make anyone feel better. Boys parents angry about coaches, girls parents angry it’s all the boys fault. As much as I like information I may just choose to stick with the reality of tryouts as opposed to the anger of the last few weeks. Just me, you can still post what happens!
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Anonymous wrote:2012s, 50-60 players. 6 goalies. Clear top field. Light on BRYC. Don't know about externals or VYS. Couldn't tell by numbers if they were pre grouped.


Did they say if the second session is invite only for the 2012 group? Any mention of when offers will start going out?


I think all are to come. Not sure there were any girls outside the three orgs on the "top" field.



Some kids got an offer on the spot.


This isn’t true. Coaches specifically said to the entire group they needed time to review and not to expect immediate offers.


I guess you didn't see the individual conversations. Of course their message to the entire group is that, but the individual conversations aren't the same.


Nice try, troll. Go back to the SYC thread. I am 100% positive they did not give field offers.


Ok, champ. Keep thinking that. Got our offer this morning, which we were told to expect.


Again, which club and what age? A lot of disinformation on this right now to try and rattle people. Are you just here to brag?


2012. There have been no other Union ID sessions yet.


show us the email
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Anonymous wrote:My DD just got an offer via email. Has anyone else heard anything?


Which club is your DD coming from and which year?



What year? Boys or Girls?


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