Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can’t stop thinking that the kid was likely afraid right at the end. It seems there were warnings in the tube that indicated they were descending too fast, and that’s why the pilot was releasing ballast in an attempt to ascend.

That damn tube was tiny, so everyone in there would’ve known there was trouble, right?

So scary.

How can a twelve ton tube that barely displaces any water NOT sink fast?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can’t stop thinking that the kid was likely afraid right at the end. It seems there were warnings in the tube that indicated they were descending too fast, and that’s why the pilot was releasing ballast in an attempt to ascend.

That damn tube was tiny, so everyone in there would’ve known there was trouble, right?

So scary.

I’m guessing it descended vertically, not horizontally as in the renderings and photos. Whoosh straight down.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Was Rush an engineer? As an engineer myself I cannot understand what he was thinking or why the laws of physics and principles of engineering don’t apply to him

He was an aerospace engineer.

He was a failed astronaut.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Were their bodies essentially pulverized?

Yes. The human body has air voids that would have been immediately pressed flat, they suffocated instantly but more to the point the temperature spike associated with the pressure breach at that depth incinerated them instantly.

My god………

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Was Rush an engineer? As an engineer myself I cannot understand what he was thinking or why the laws of physics and principles of engineering don’t apply to him

As a fellow engineer, I think he thought of himself as an innovator and scoffed at the conservatism of engineers. He wielded his engineering degree more to impress and reassure people than to calculate the stress on a cylinder being compressed at 6000 psi.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t stop thinking that the kid was likely afraid right at the end. It seems there were warnings in the tube that indicated they were descending too fast, and that’s why the pilot was releasing ballast in an attempt to ascend.

That damn tube was tiny, so everyone in there would’ve known there was trouble, right?

So scary.

How can a twelve ton tube that barely displaces any water NOT sink fast?

The tube displaced about 50 cubic meters, 1.5^2 * 3.14 * 7. A cubic meter of water weighs roughly 1 ton. It would easily float.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t stop thinking that the kid was likely afraid right at the end. It seems there were warnings in the tube that indicated they were descending too fast, and that’s why the pilot was releasing ballast in an attempt to ascend.

That damn tube was tiny, so everyone in there would’ve known there was trouble, right?

So scary.

How can a twelve ton tube that barely displaces any water NOT sink fast?

I said “too fast.” There is a safe speed at which to descend.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Was Rush an engineer? As an engineer myself I cannot understand what he was thinking or why the laws of physics and principles of engineering don’t apply to him

As a fellow engineer, I think he thought of himself as an innovator and scoffed at the conservatism of engineers. He wielded his engineering degree more to impress and reassure people than to calculate the stress on a cylinder being compressed at 6000 psi.

I’m sure he did that math and understands the mechanics of it. His area of weakness was in materials. Clearly, he wasn’t a materials engineer.

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Anonymous wrote:I have no idea why people feel compelled to explore life at the extremes like deep sea and space when we have an absolute miracle in front of us right here in the middle of the curve where humans are uniquely adapted to live.

That’s certainly one way to think of it, but I’m sure you enjoy air travel, driving a car, led lights, relatively inexpensive gasoline etc - all things that were made possible by crazed people pushing the limits and not taking no for an answer. I’m pretty risk averse, but I think that, along with intelligence, curiosity, opposable thumbs, and reliance on social communities, a certain amount of risk taking enabled humans to live in that “middle of the curve” that most of us enjoy.

And honestly, we are not actually “uniquely adapted” to live there. Take away our technology, our clothes, our electricity, our plumbing, our transportation and most of us would probably starve or die of exposure. We took risks, invented power grids, furnaces, air conditioning, Apple Watches, and here we are.

I think you mean here (?) and yes we are. We are uniquely adapted to live on Earth. Sure, not in extreme temperature regions and such, but we've been able to innovate and survive for ages because we're uniquely adapted (and belong) here.

Do you live in North America? Depending on the current theories, the reason people are here is because their ancestors took an enormous risk by either walking across a land bridge into the great unknown to escape the encroaching ice, or getting in a rickety boat across a vast ocean with no guarantee of ever seeing land again. For much of human history, taking enormous risks is part of living. Millions of women walk miles to get clean water, even today. The drive that made Polynesians traverse the ocean in canoes is the same drive that made the first cosmonauts climb into a rocket and made Jonas Salk try out his polio vaccine on his own son. We have vaccines and water filtration and satellites from risk taking that help us live comfortably, but can you imagine life without those? Wouldn’t be so comfortable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Was Rush an engineer? As an engineer myself I cannot understand what he was thinking or why the laws of physics and principles of engineering don’t apply to him

As a fellow engineer, I think he thought of himself as an innovator and scoffed at the conservatism of engineers. He wielded his engineering degree more to impress and reassure people than to calculate the stress on a cylinder being compressed at 6000 psi.

That’s hard to believe. He should’ve know even innovation obeys to the rules of physics. Most people can’t even comprehend 6000psi but he should have know, not to mention material fatigue with repeated uses. He was a true dumba$$. He probably worked on 737 Max.

[Anonymous]

I'll bet he had major financial problems that will be revealed in the coming months, hence the need to get those paying passengers down there asap.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can’t stop thinking that the kid was likely afraid right at the end. It seems there were warnings in the tube that indicated they were descending too fast, and that’s why the pilot was releasing ballast in an attempt to ascend.

That damn tube was tiny, so everyone in there would’ve known there was trouble, right?

So scary.

It’s very likely everyone was dead before they even knew there was a problem. According to a NYT article, a hole in the hull the size of a hair follicle could, under high pressure, cause the submersible to implode in a fraction of a second.

[Anonymous]

Does anyone else think it’s a bit distasteful, these people coming out of the woodwork with the ‘it could have been me’ stories?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Was Rush an engineer? As an engineer myself I cannot understand what he was thinking or why the laws of physics and principles of engineering don’t apply to him

As a fellow engineer, I think he thought of himself as an innovator and scoffed at the conservatism of engineers. He wielded his engineering degree more to impress and reassure people than to calculate the stress on a cylinder being compressed at 6000 psi.

That’s hard to believe. He should’ve know even innovation obeys to the rules of physics. Most people can’t even comprehend 6000psi but he should have know, not to mention material fatigue with repeated uses. He was a true dumba$$. He probably worked on 737 Max.

He knew the material would fatigue with repeated use, he just... thought it wasn't fatigued enough, I guess. With that being said, until the wreckage is examined, we don't know with complete certainty what the source of the breach was, and he may have been right. (but I doubt it)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t stop thinking that the kid was likely afraid right at the end. It seems there were warnings in the tube that indicated they were descending too fast, and that’s why the pilot was releasing ballast in an attempt to ascend.

That damn tube was tiny, so everyone in there would’ve known there was trouble, right?

So scary.

It’s very likely everyone was dead before they even knew there was a problem. According to a NYT article, a hole in the hull the size of a hair follicle could, under high pressure, cause the submersible to implode in a fraction of a second.

Yeah, I was talking about the moments before the implosion.