Massive home addition causes confusion in Fairfax County neighborhood

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Anonymous wrote:Yay zoning variance request denied. Tear it down!


Tear it down and build it 8 inches narrower.
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Anonymous wrote:One thing that’s super interesting about this hearing is that it turns out the homeowner actually did use a contractor who misrepresented himself as licensed but previously had his licensed taken away for telling people they had to put down owner as contractor and pull their own permits. That’s a huge mitigating factor for the homeowner.


The HO is shady. If he thought he was using a legit contractor, he should never signed the permitting paperwork with that he was contractor. He certified that he was the contractor in all the permitting paperwork. Not buying is naive persona


Not everyone has the same sophistication or experience as you. It takes most of us learning our lesson the hard way to start checking things like that.


So this is a great chance for the homeowner to learn the hard way— a complete rebuild. Then he will learn.


I can’t imagine signing a contract with a GC whom I hadn’t googled so I could check out online info. Also, did they not even ask the GC for names of former clients they could talk to?

This was a $200,000 project they were committing to and it didn’t occur to them to check out the previous work and background of the GC. Unbelievable!


You know this doesn’t come up when you search Google, right? Not unless there happens to be a news article on the person. You have to go into Fairfax County’s DPOR portal and search for licensure. I only know this because I got burned before as a first time homeowner.


Not true. I googled the name and the company name and a violation and loss of license came up from May of 2023.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Yay zoning variance request denied. Tear it down!


Tear it down and build it 8 inches narrower.


Would not be allowed because Fairfax county has already changed the zoning ordinance to prevent this from happening again. His property would not be grandfathered into the prior rules because it he did not even follow existing zoning rules at the time when he built it in the first place. If he had built it 8 inches narrower and had to tear it down for some reason he likely would be allowed to rebuild the prior structure.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One thing that’s super interesting about this hearing is that it turns out the homeowner actually did use a contractor who misrepresented himself as licensed but previously had his licensed taken away for telling people they had to put down owner as contractor and pull their own permits. That’s a huge mitigating factor for the homeowner.


The HO is shady. If he thought he was using a legit contractor, he should never signed the permitting paperwork with that he was contractor. He certified that he was the contractor in all the permitting paperwork. Not buying is naive persona


Not everyone has the same sophistication or experience as you. It takes most of us learning our lesson the hard way to start checking things like that.


So this is a great chance for the homeowner to learn the hard way— a complete rebuild. Then he will learn.


I can’t imagine signing a contract with a GC whom I hadn’t googled so I could check out online info. Also, did they not even ask the GC for names of former clients they could talk to?

This was a $200,000 project they were committing to and it didn’t occur to them to check out the previous work and background of the GC. Unbelievable!


You know this doesn’t come up when you search Google, right? Not unless there happens to be a news article on the person. You have to go into Fairfax County’s DPOR portal and search for licensure. I only know this because I got burned before as a first time homeowner.


Not true. I googled the name and the company name and a violation and loss of license came up from May of 2023.


Also, a few months ago when the contractor’s name first appeared on the permit documents, a lot of information came up on a google search. Now, less comes up- I wonder if they had their name and company name “scrubbed.”
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yay zoning variance request denied. Tear it down!


Tear it down and build it 8 inches narrower.


Would not be allowed because Fairfax county has already changed the zoning ordinance to prevent this from happening again. His property would not be grandfathered into the prior rules because it he did not even follow existing zoning rules at the time when he built it in the first place. If he had built it 8 inches narrower and had to tear it down for some reason he likely would be allowed to rebuild the prior structure.


What change? I have heard that the height or setback rules have changed? The structural design is compliant with the exception of the setback issue.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yay zoning variance request denied. Tear it down!


Tear it down and build it 8 inches narrower.


Would not be allowed because Fairfax county has already changed the zoning ordinance to prevent this from happening again. His property would not be grandfathered into the prior rules because it he did not even follow existing zoning rules at the time when he built it in the first place. If he had built it 8 inches narrower and had to tear it down for some reason he likely would be allowed to rebuild the prior structure.


What change? I have heard that the height or setback rules have changed? The structural design is compliant with the exception of the setback issue.


DP. After this monstrosity was discovered, Herrity introduced a motion to update the zoning ordinances so this type of structure can't be built again. I wasn't aware that anything new had actually passed.

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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yay zoning variance request denied. Tear it down!


Tear it down and build it 8 inches narrower.


Would not be allowed because Fairfax county has already changed the zoning ordinance to prevent this from happening again. His property would not be grandfathered into the prior rules because it he did not even follow existing zoning rules at the time when he built it in the first place. If he had built it 8 inches narrower and had to tear it down for some reason he likely would be allowed to rebuild the prior structure.


What change? I have heard that the height or setback rules have changed? The structural design is compliant with the exception of the setback issue.


Even if the change has not been passed yet, I suspect it will pass soon and he won't be able to rebuild a similar structure.
Anonymous
America truly hates property rights. Sad this got denied
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:America truly hates property rights. Sad this got denied


Homeowner still hasn't addressed his building code violations AFAIK. He's never going to be able to fix the Strong-Tie issue.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:America truly hates property rights. Sad this got denied


The fact that you don’t see a problem with this poorly constructed structure that violates various zoning laws and doesn’t even follow the plans as submitted an approved is more of a concern.

Property rights are important but not more important than the building codes that are in place to ensure safety.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:America truly hates property rights. Sad this got denied


The fact that you don’t see a problem with this poorly constructed structure that violates various zoning laws and doesn’t even follow the plans as submitted an approved is more of a concern.

Property rights are important but not more important than the building codes that are in place to ensure safety.


"He did his best!"
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:America truly hates property rights. Sad this got denied


The fact that you don’t see a problem with this poorly constructed structure that violates various zoning laws and doesn’t even follow the plans as submitted an approved is more of a concern.

Property rights are important but not more important than the building codes that are in place to ensure safety.


Because the injection was always to the height and style, not to the structural integrity. As Courtney admitted at the hearing, the owner curing all of the violations would not actually address any of her concerns.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:America truly hates property rights. Sad this got denied


The fact that you don’t see a problem with this poorly constructed structure that violates various zoning laws and doesn’t even follow the plans as submitted an approved is more of a concern.

Property rights are important but not more important than the building codes that are in place to ensure safety.


Because the injection was always to the height and style, not to the structural integrity. As Courtney admitted at the hearing, the owner curing all of the violations would not actually address any of her concerns.


Actually, she said it would be better if it were built the eight inches back. Listen to the video.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:America truly hates property rights. Sad this got denied


The fact that you don’t see a problem with this poorly constructed structure that violates various zoning laws and doesn’t even follow the plans as submitted an approved is more of a concern.

Property rights are important but not more important than the building codes that are in place to ensure safety.


"He did his best!"


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:America truly hates property rights. Sad this got denied


The fact that you don’t see a problem with this poorly constructed structure that violates various zoning laws and doesn’t even follow the plans as submitted an approved is more of a concern.

Property rights are important but not more important than the building codes that are in place to ensure safety.


Because the injection was always to the height and style, not to the structural integrity. As Courtney admitted at the hearing, the owner curing all of the violations would not actually address any of her concerns.


The objection you mean?
Also the fact that the HO did various other things on the property without permits, such as transitioning the garage. Also the HO is planning to rent out units.

Best thing he can do at this point is to sell his house and go open up a real boarding house unit someplace that is zoned for that.
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