UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Frankly I'm still happy the gun man has not been found. Hopefully he never is.

Same. We’ve already seen net positive benefits at other ins co.s from this event.

If I knew who this guy was, I wouldn’t say squat. If he needed a ride someplace or some cash, I’d give it to him. This guy wouldn’t be a danger to me or my family. He’s not a threat to us. Maybe to some of you, tho. But you probably deserve it.

I saw someone refer to him as America’s Least Wanted and I admit it made me laugh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He’s back in Lebanon

or Iran because he gives Persian vibes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At first I thought this guy must be acting on his own, especially given that he left his phone and cup. But now I think he's an assassin. Everything he left, he left on purpose. He looked directly at the camera in the cab on purpose. The only mistake he made was to flirt with that woman at the hostel. And he is clearly much smarter than the cops.

I think it’s multiple people to throw the cops off.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Frankly I'm still happy the gun man has not been found. Hopefully he never is.

Same. We’ve already seen net positive benefits at other ins co.s from this event.

If I knew who this guy was, I wouldn’t say squat. If he needed a ride someplace or some cash, I’d give it to him. This guy wouldn’t be a danger to me or my family. He’s not a threat to us. Maybe to some of you, tho. But you probably deserve it.

I saw someone refer to him as America’s Least Wanted and I admit it made me laugh.

That's really funny.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At first I thought this guy must be acting on his own, especially given that he left his phone and cup. But now I think he's an assassin. Everything he left, he left on purpose. He looked directly at the camera in the cab on purpose. The only mistake he made was to flirt with that woman at the hostel. And he is clearly much smarter than the cops.

I think it’s multiple people to throw the cops off.

someone rode off with his e-bike

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At first I thought this guy must be acting on his own, especially given that he left his phone and cup. But now I think he's an assassin. Everything he left, he left on purpose. He looked directly at the camera in the cab on purpose. The only mistake he made was to flirt with that woman at the hostel. And he is clearly much smarter than the cops.

I think it’s multiple people to throw the cops off.

PP you responded to and I agree -- but I think the guy they are looking for is a professional. But agree he must have had help.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At first I thought this guy must be acting on his own, especially given that he left his phone and cup. But now I think he's an assassin. Everything he left, he left on purpose. He looked directly at the camera in the cab on purpose. The only mistake he made was to flirt with that woman at the hostel. And he is clearly much smarter than the cops.

That could be plausible, except for the problems with the gun. Because he was clearly expecting the gun to function again after firing the first shot. Except it didn’t. He tried to fire, realized it hadn’t cycled the action, and then had to cycle it manually to get it to fire again. Then he had to repeat that process several more times. That means he hasn’t previously tested this gun and suppressor combination before. That’s something that a professional would never do - go into a job with untested gear.


Other than that, your theory is plausible.

[Anonymous]

I have professional and personal reasons to really loathe the insurance industry but I still am very disturbed by the reaction-not the jokes but the people actually thinking it’s justified. This type of thinking is how we get people shooting docs who perform abortions. This isn’t the way, folks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At first I thought this guy must be acting on his own, especially given that he left his phone and cup. But now I think he's an assassin. Everything he left, he left on purpose. He looked directly at the camera in the cab on purpose. The only mistake he made was to flirt with that woman at the hostel. And he is clearly much smarter than the cops.

I think it’s multiple people to throw the cops off.

someone rode off with his e-bike

That’s a great way to contaminate the evidence though. It’s perfect.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Agree. Their chance to get him was in the first couple of hours after the murder. He’s long gone. And the NYPD looks completely incompetent. They haven’t even figured out this guy’s name and they have a pretty clear picture and DNA.

They may know his name but are not showing their hand yet. I’m not sure they have his DNA. Maybe he planted the water bottle on purpose. Even if they have DNA, it’s irrelevant unless he’s in a database somewhere. If he is a foreigner, he wouldn’t be. Even as an American, if he has no prior criminal record, why would his DNA be in any system?

If he has some dumb relative that has done one of the DNA services (Ancestry, 23 and me..) they may find him. Note: people are so stupid for sending their DNA into these services

People are beyond stupid for sending their DNA to strangers. They are literally idiotic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At first I thought this guy must be acting on his own, especially given that he left his phone and cup. But now I think he's an assassin. Everything he left, he left on purpose. He looked directly at the camera in the cab on purpose. The only mistake he made was to flirt with that woman at the hostel. And he is clearly much smarter than the cops.

That could be plausible, except for the problems with the gun. Because he was clearly expecting the gun to function again after firing the first shot. Except it didn’t. He tried to fire, realized it hadn’t cycled the action, and then had to cycle it manually to get it to fire again. Then he had to repeat that process several more times. That means he hasn’t previously tested this gun and suppressor combination before. That’s something that a professional would never do - go into a job with untested gear.


Other than that, your theory is plausible.

maybe or he saw it coming.

Looks like a polymer 80 Glock 19 frame with a homemade suppressor that lacked a neilsen device or a lightweight guide rod spring causing the gun to short stroke. That would explain the slide popping out live rounds.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have professional and personal reasons to really loathe the insurance industry but I still am very disturbed by the reaction-not the jokes but the people actually thinking it’s justified. This type of thinking is how we get people shooting docs who perform abortions. This isn’t the way, folks.

1) we’ve already had abortion doctors getting shot for decades. That horse is so far out of the barn it’s now holding kid’s craft projects together on thousands of refrigerators around the country.

2) it’s extremely telling that the very first reactions among corporate leadership wasn’t “hey wow, people are really upset at us - maybe we need to re-examine our ethics and the way we do business”, but instead it was “I need a fully armored Mercedes and a 6-man protection team composed of former SEAL operators, armed with submachineguns to watch over me 24/7/365”. This was the EXACT wrong reaction for corporate America - and this reaction shows why this stuff probably needs to happen a few more times.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At first I thought this guy must be acting on his own, especially given that he left his phone and cup. But now I think he's an assassin. Everything he left, he left on purpose. He looked directly at the camera in the cab on purpose. The only mistake he made was to flirt with that woman at the hostel. And he is clearly much smarter than the cops.

That could be plausible, except for the problems with the gun. Because he was clearly expecting the gun to function again after firing the first shot. Except it didn’t. He tried to fire, realized it hadn’t cycled the action, and then had to cycle it manually to get it to fire again. Then he had to repeat that process several more times. That means he hasn’t previously tested this gun and suppressor combination before. That’s something that a professional would never do - go into a job with untested gear.


Other than that, your theory is plausible.

maybe or he saw it coming.

Looks like a polymer 80 Glock 19 frame with a homemade suppressor that lacked a neilsen device or a lightweight guide rod spring causing the gun to short stroke. That would explain the slide popping out live rounds.

PP here. not an expert just spent a lot of time with my father at a range, but I don't think the shooter was surprised at all when it didn't cycle with the first shot, and they hit with what looks like every shot...with a can higher than the sight picture. no booster on the silencer makes me think the can is homemade. Could have been 3D printed

I'm pretty sure this is how it was intended to go down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At first I thought this guy must be acting on his own, especially given that he left his phone and cup. But now I think he's an assassin. Everything he left, he left on purpose. He looked directly at the camera in the cab on purpose. The only mistake he made was to flirt with that woman at the hostel. And he is clearly much smarter than the cops.

That could be plausible, except for the problems with the gun. Because he was clearly expecting the gun to function again after firing the first shot. Except it didn’t. He tried to fire, realized it hadn’t cycled the action, and then had to cycle it manually to get it to fire again. Then he had to repeat that process several more times. That means he hasn’t previously tested this gun and suppressor combination before. That’s something that a professional would never do - go into a job with untested gear.


Other than that, your theory is plausible.

maybe or he saw it coming.

Looks like a polymer 80 Glock 19 frame with a homemade suppressor that lacked a neilsen device or a lightweight guide rod spring causing the gun to short stroke. That would explain the slide popping out live rounds.

100% agree. Homemade ‘can with no booster. Amateur.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have professional and personal reasons to really loathe the insurance industry but I still am very disturbed by the reaction-not the jokes but the people actually thinking it’s justified. This type of thinking is how we get people shooting docs who perform abortions. This isn’t the way, folks.

1) we’ve already had abortion doctors getting shot for decades. That horse is so far out of the barn it’s now holding kid’s craft projects together on thousands of refrigerators around the country.

2) it’s extremely telling that the very first reactions among corporate leadership wasn’t “hey wow, people are really upset at us - maybe we need to re-examine our ethics and the way we do business”, but instead it was “I need a fully armored Mercedes and a 6-man protection team composed of former SEAL operators, armed with submachineguns to watch over me 24/7/365”. This was the EXACT wrong reaction for corporate America - and this reaction shows why this stuff probably needs to happen a few more times.

I think if we as a society decide we aren’t going to have a bright line about murdering people who we feel are unethical we will see a lot more abortion providers killed. No argument from me that the corporate response is both idiotic and infuriating.