Upper elementary at a Title 1 school

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry, are people really trying to claim white families fleeing to charters in droves ISN’T about race. Lol, DCUM never change.

It’s not about race. It’s about academic peer groups and high expectations.

In title 1 DCPS schools don’t have either.

And I’m not white.

[Anonymous]

1. High income highly educated families can also be of color.

2. All this school hopping is showing your kids what you really care about. I have a good friend who is shocked her elem kid isn’t thriving - he’s in 3rd grade and she’s moved him to get him in the right pathway since he was 3. He can’t make long term relationships w his classmates. It was really horrible when her kid didn’t know anyone on zoom.

3. Not knowing what middle school is like. First your kids aren’t in preK. They are tweens and you can’t micro manage their day. Let it go. Parent switch to some charter or private and then stop caring because they reviewed all the school marketing. That’s not how education work

4. My child isn’t challenged. Why should they be at 11? I can show you adult after adult who was challenged in middle school and is failing in life as an adult. I can show you adult after adult who got into the highly selective college and are failing in life.

5. Children are at a title 1 school as it’s our IB. They will stay there until 5th and then go to our feeder middle school. The only reason I can see removing them is if we move (and honestly we would move IB to deal/wilson because that would be where a home and neighborhood we’d like). We wouldn’t move for the school zone and based on commutes, bus lines would keep our kid in their title I feeder.

6. If my child needs a “challenge” I can provide that for them w tutors and summer camps and life. I don’t need them “challenged” in geography class.

So far the families that have left I’m happy to see them go. Hyper type A moms who have never lived in a heterogeneous world despite being woke that they don’t think about what is best for the whole not just theirs. We still have hyper type A moms but they really do think about the whole and it’s very apparent during covid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:1. High income highly educated families can also be of color.

2. All this school hopping is showing your kids what you really care about. I have a good friend who is shocked her elem kid isn’t thriving - he’s in 3rd grade and she’s moved him to get him in the right pathway since he was 3. He can’t make long term relationships w his classmates. It was really horrible when her kid didn’t know anyone on zoom.

3. Not knowing what middle school is like. First your kids aren’t in preK. They are tweens and you can’t micro manage their day. Let it go. Parent switch to some charter or private and then stop caring because they reviewed all the school marketing. That’s not how education work

4. My child isn’t challenged. Why should they be at 11? I can show you adult after adult who was challenged in middle school and is failing in life as an adult. I can show you adult after adult who got into the highly selective college and are failing in life.

5. Children are at a title 1 school as it’s our IB. They will stay there until 5th and then go to our feeder middle school. The only reason I can see removing them is if we move (and honestly we would move IB to deal/wilson because that would be where a home and neighborhood we’d like). We wouldn’t move for the school zone and based on commutes, bus lines would keep our kid in their title I feeder.

6. If my child needs a “challenge” I can provide that for them w tutors and summer camps and life. I don’t need them “challenged” in geography class.

So far the families that have left I’m happy to see them go. Hyper type A moms who have never lived in a heterogeneous world despite being woke that they don’t think about what is best for the whole not just theirs. We still have hyper type A moms but they really do think about the whole and it’s very apparent during covid.

Sure, Jan

It must be nice to be in that sweet spot of involvement with DCPS when you feel you have it all figured out and everyone else is an idiot. May the odds be ever in your favor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1. High income highly educated families can also be of color.

2. All this school hopping is showing your kids what you really care about. I have a good friend who is shocked her elem kid isn’t thriving - he’s in 3rd grade and she’s moved him to get him in the right pathway since he was 3. He can’t make long term relationships w his classmates. It was really horrible when her kid didn’t know anyone on zoom.

3. Not knowing what middle school is like. First your kids aren’t in preK. They are tweens and you can’t micro manage their day. Let it go. Parent switch to some charter or private and then stop caring because they reviewed all the school marketing. That’s not how education work

4. My child isn’t challenged. Why should they be at 11? I can show you adult after adult who was challenged in middle school and is failing in life as an adult. I can show you adult after adult who got into the highly selective college and are failing in life.

5. Children are at a title 1 school as it’s our IB. They will stay there until 5th and then go to our feeder middle school. The only reason I can see removing them is if we move (and honestly we would move IB to deal/wilson because that would be where a home and neighborhood we’d like). We wouldn’t move for the school zone and based on commutes, bus lines would keep our kid in their title I feeder.

6. If my child needs a “challenge” I can provide that for them w tutors and summer camps and life. I don’t need them “challenged” in geography class.

So far the families that have left I’m happy to see them go. Hyper type A moms who have never lived in a heterogeneous world despite being woke that they don’t think about what is best for the whole not just theirs. We still have hyper type A moms but they really do think about the whole and it’s very apparent during covid.

Sure, Jan

It must be nice to be in that sweet spot of involvement with DCPS when you feel you have it all figured out and everyone else is an idiot. May the odds be ever in your favor.

Hey with all of you gone it will be. Chef’s kiss.

Hope the anxiety of the lottery helps your kids thrive

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry, are people really trying to claim white families fleeing to charters in droves ISN’T about race. Lol, DCUM never change.

It’s not about race. It’s about academic peer groups and high expectations.

In title 1 DCPS schools don’t have either.

And I’m not white.

Good luck with this high expectations at your charter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry, are people really trying to claim white families fleeing to charters in droves ISN’T about race. Lol, DCUM never change.

It’s not about race. It’s about academic peer groups and high expectations.

In title 1 DCPS schools don’t have either.

And I’m not white.

Good luck with this high expectations at your charter.

Right? The delusion that people have about charters is hysterical.

Some are good and some are bad. People have this mind set that if they chose something it must better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry, are people really trying to claim white families fleeing to charters in droves ISN’T about race. Lol, DCUM never change.

It’s not about race. It’s about academic peer groups and high expectations.

In title 1 DCPS schools don’t have either.

And I’m not white.

Are you suggesting all poor kids are dumb? And that teachers have low expectations of them?

You sound like a conservative think tank moron who has never set foot in a DCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry, are people really trying to claim white families fleeing to charters in droves ISN’T about race. Lol, DCUM never change.

It’s not about race. It’s about academic peer groups and high expectations.

In title 1 DCPS schools don’t have either.

And I’m not white.

Are you suggesting all poor kids are dumb? And that teachers have low expectations of them?

You sound like a conservative think tank moron who has never set foot in a DCPS.

Have you seen the test scores in DCPS? Are you suggesting that they don't correlate to parental income? Are you suggesting that the scores are anything but awful? Here's an article with DCPS cheering progress even though at risk students had a 21 percent pass rate for ELA and a 16 percent pass rate for math- that sounds like low expectations to me https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2019/08/19/dc-students-make-steady-gains-english-portion-standardized-exam/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry, are people really trying to claim white families fleeing to charters in droves ISN’T about race. Lol, DCUM never change.

It’s not about race. It’s about academic peer groups and high expectations.

In title 1 DCPS schools don’t have either.

And I’m not white.

Are you suggesting all poor kids are dumb? And that teachers have low expectations of them?

You sound like a conservative think tank moron who has never set foot in a DCPS.

Have you seen the test scores in DCPS? Are you suggesting that they don't correlate to parental income? Are you suggesting that the scores are anything but awful? Here's an article with DCPS cheering progress even though at risk students had a 21 percent pass rate for ELA and a 16 percent pass rate for math- that sounds like low expectations to me https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2019/08/19/dc-students-make-steady-gains-english-portion-standardized-exam/

Nothing like using two year old standardized test scores as a measure of expectations for a school district. I don't take anyone seriously who uses test scores as a measure of excellence, especially in an ES

[Anonymous]

But the test scores

Please I also only hire people who had good grades in HS when I need someone w a masters

https://blog.schoolsparrow.com/2021/09/29/how-accurate-are-school-ratings-school-ratings-are-harming-americas-neighborhoods-and-cities/?fbclid=IwAR0sHEC5OFXTBHIoP0pQCYzM9qOjE8dKvSH0MNmm2jYuiHo9U5HL0wuM7c4

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry, are people really trying to claim white families fleeing to charters in droves ISN’T about race. Lol, DCUM never change.

It’s not about race. It’s about academic peer groups and high expectations.

In title 1 DCPS schools don’t have either.

And I’m not white.

Good luck with this high expectations at your charter.

Right? The delusion that people have about charters is hysterical.

Some are good and some are bad. People have this mind set that if they chose something it must better.

Its the illusion of choice. If you choose it or another option, it must be better. Especially if you “won” a lottery to get it. Spoiler, 90% of the time they’re all more alike than different.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry, are people really trying to claim white families fleeing to charters in droves ISN’T about race. Lol, DCUM never change.

It’s not about race. It’s about academic peer groups and high expectations.

In title 1 DCPS schools don’t have either.

And I’m not white.

Are you suggesting all poor kids are dumb? And that teachers have low expectations of them?

You sound like a conservative think tank moron who has never set foot in a DCPS.

Have you seen the test scores in DCPS? Are you suggesting that they don't correlate to parental income? Are you suggesting that the scores are anything but awful? Here's an article with DCPS cheering progress even though at risk students had a 21 percent pass rate for ELA and a 16 percent pass rate for math- that sounds like low expectations to me https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2019/08/19/dc-students-make-steady-gains-english-portion-standardized-exam/

Nothing like using two year old standardized test scores as a measure of expectations for a school district. I don't take anyone seriously who uses test scores as a measure of excellence, especially in an ES

I’m sure they would have drastically improved last year if the kids took them. Do you really think that the schools are great and doing well, and it’s just a bad coincidence that the children can neither read on grade level nor do math on grade level?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry, are people really trying to claim white families fleeing to charters in droves ISN’T about race. Lol, DCUM never change.

It’s not about race. It’s about academic peer groups and high expectations.

In title 1 DCPS schools don’t have either.

And I’m not white.

Are you suggesting all poor kids are dumb? And that teachers have low expectations of them?

You sound like a conservative think tank moron who has never set foot in a DCPS.

Have you seen the test scores in DCPS? Are you suggesting that they don't correlate to parental income? Are you suggesting that the scores are anything but awful? Here's an article with DCPS cheering progress even though at risk students had a 21 percent pass rate for ELA and a 16 percent pass rate for math- that sounds like low expectations to me https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2019/08/19/dc-students-make-steady-gains-english-portion-standardized-exam/

That’s city wide. You really think it’s applicable to a school like Whittier or West? Check the (out of date, mostly irrelevant) scores. You’d be surprised to see they’re probably higher across demographic groups than at your charter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry, are people really trying to claim white families fleeing to charters in droves ISN’T about race. Lol, DCUM never change.

It’s not about race. It’s about academic peer groups and high expectations.

In title 1 DCPS schools don’t have either.

And I’m not white.

Are you suggesting all poor kids are dumb? And that teachers have low expectations of them?

You sound like a conservative think tank moron who has never set foot in a DCPS.

Have you seen the test scores in DCPS? Are you suggesting that they don't correlate to parental income? Are you suggesting that the scores are anything but awful? Here's an article with DCPS cheering progress even though at risk students had a 21 percent pass rate for ELA and a 16 percent pass rate for math- that sounds like low expectations to me https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2019/08/19/dc-students-make-steady-gains-english-portion-standardized-exam/

Nothing like using two year old standardized test scores as a measure of expectations for a school district. I don't take anyone seriously who uses test scores as a measure of excellence, especially in an ES

I’m sure they would have drastically improved last year if the kids took them. Do you really think that the schools are great and doing well, and it’s just a bad coincidence that the children can neither read on grade level nor do math on grade level?

If you think thats what these tests are assessing, I've got bad news for you. I've taught math in the district for a long time and can promise you that there is minimal correlation between grade level math standards and the ways questions are asked on a standardized test such as PARCC. And that's before getting into all the technological issues (students typing in a number with/without a comma, using the slash bar instead of a fraction bar, mistyping a number, adding a unit when the question only wanted the numerical answer)

[Anonymous]

This entire conversation about race is way too general to be relevant to what's actually happening in schools in rapidly gentrifying neighborhoods. Our Title 1 is fully of biracial higher SES families, none of whom count as "white" for this discussion or the demographic breakdown at the school. But my white DC's small group was her and 3 biracial kids (Black, Asian, and Latino), and I think all of those kids are back again this year. My DC is 1-2 grade levels ahead, so I'm guessing those kids are roughly the same. I'm pretty sure the people talking about "peer groups" and expectations haven't had any first hand experience in schools like ours in the last 5-7 years.