How is there not a thread about that lunatic dad who screamed at the Loudon school board?

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Anonymous wrote:The parents that want to stay home have the luxury of working from home or they have an employer that has them sitting at home collecting a paycheck. I wonder what would happen if the DMV was required to go back in the office. Put yourself in those shoes for a minute. Fairfax had an option for several thousand dollars a month PER KID they will watch them. Where have been all the covid outbreaks from that??? Why should parents be paying extra when our taxes should be covering this? OR, give parents a voucher to take their money elsewhere -- guaranteed school would be back in session then.

Yes, there are parents that need school because they don't have any other option except to leave kids at home by themselves or quit their jobs. BUT there is a huge number of kids that are struggling. They are losing their motivation, their self worth, and are developing mental health issues because they cannot learn this way -- and some of that might be permanent since these are the formative years. A few months was one thing but now we are in two school years and some jackasses want it to go for a third.

There is a learning gap occuring. Kids in private are in person and doing fine. They have no outbreaks. Those kids are thriving, but there aren't enough spaces for the other kids and a lot of parents cannot afford it. Hell, my neighbor's kid is virtual with a private (she is getting treated for cancer) and that kid gets five days a week and a LOT more instructions than my kids. Those teachers seem to be rocking the concurrent model that is way too hard/difficult for the public school teachers.

There are teachers that are enjoying their four days a week a few hours a day schedule. They are phoning it in. They don't want to go back, but they were first in line to get a vaccine. They hang out with friends and do day trips - so it isn't fear of covid.

+1000.. **Some** teachers have gotten way too comfortable with a flexible, WFH job that should never be WFH and this flexible. They are getting the vaccine, seeing friends and family, taking trips (did you see the teacher that told her students she couldn't teach them because she was at Disney?). They are living their lives like normal and should be doing their jobs in-person like normal.

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Anonymous wrote:I applaud him. And the reason why no one thinks so is because I truly believe most people in the DMV don’t want a return to school.

Well most families in NOVA are choosing to remain virtual, so this is probably true.

Actually not true. Perhaps for Loudoun - but the pendulum is swinging the other way and at least in Alexandria, Fairfax and Arlington the majority of parents are pushing for in person.

Uhhhh at the FCPS school I work at, over 100 parents have switched their kid to virtual when given the opportunity last month.

Good, so it’ll be even easier to get RTS off the ground and help set protocols.

I mean, sure? But it is not the "majority of parents." It is a minority of parents. A minority of majority affluent parents. All the people screaming about "oh what about the most vulnerable." The most vulnerable and at risk students that are not logging on to do anything are remaining virtual.

DP. Do you really think the parents of the most-vulnerable students have the time to lobby against DL? Do you really think it’s easy for parents who *have* to leave the house for work to help their kids with DL? Thank god for the affluent parents who are doing the lobbying and speaking for the most vulnerable populations.

Get child care. The volume table don’t want to go back. It’s the affluent who can afford but refuse to pay for care having the fits.

I have no problem affording childcare, and I suspect you don’t either. The low-income parents who have to leave every day for work aren’t so lucky. They have to leave their kids at home to figure out DL for themselves. No wonder so many kids are checking out.

The narrative that the affluent are the ones who want schools open is disgusting and perverse. The data show low income children are falling behind. We have to educate them. Closed schools are creating enormous race, income, and gender inequality from women dropping out of the labor force in record numbers. That is what the social science says. UMC are using lower class kids as an excuse to sleep in and bake in pajamas.

You do realize that lower-income families and PoC are choosing distance learning at much higher rates than UMC/MC communities, right? Look at the differences between north and south Arlington.

What they choose is irrelevant. The data show they are falling behind. Society has a responsibility to educate them.

Yes, angry white men know better than the rest of us. Of course, we all need to listen to them.

What are you going to do? Round up all of the poor, brown kids and force your education on them?

Um, yes, that's literally what compulsory education is. And it's quite possible that it will resume before some people are ready. Then we'll either let their children continue to not be educated by very hard working but ineffective remote teachers or force them to go to school.

Sorry, just become some angry white man throws a temper tantrum, doesn't mean it will happen.

It's not 1952 anymore.

He is representative of millions out there.
And, you know who is suffering the worse the longer schools stay closed?
Poor students. Students of color. Immigrant students. Students with disabilities.
That "white man" was speaking for them too..

You and he DGAF about poor or brown kids. And you certainly do NOT speak for them. They chose DL at a much higher rate than white suburban families.

Sit TF down.

They just need their older kids to babysit the younger ones while the parents work in person jobs. It has nothing to do with fear of the virus or thinking DL is a better education.

BULLCRAP. You do NOT speak for them. Sit TF down.

Why don't you? Like you speak for ALL brown people?

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Anonymous wrote:The parents that want to stay home have the luxury of working from home or they have an employer that has them sitting at home collecting a paycheck. I wonder what would happen if the DMV was required to go back in the office. Put yourself in those shoes for a minute. Fairfax had an option for several thousand dollars a month PER KID they will watch them. Where have been all the covid outbreaks from that??? Why should parents be paying extra when our taxes should be covering this? OR, give parents a voucher to take their money elsewhere -- guaranteed school would be back in session then.

Yes, there are parents that need school because they don't have any other option except to leave kids at home by themselves or quit their jobs. BUT there is a huge number of kids that are struggling. They are losing their motivation, their self worth, and are developing mental health issues because they cannot learn this way -- and some of that might be permanent since these are the formative years. A few months was one thing but now we are in two school years and some jackasses want it to go for a third.

There is a learning gap occuring. Kids in private are in person and doing fine. They have no outbreaks. Those kids are thriving, but there aren't enough spaces for the other kids and a lot of parents cannot afford it. Hell, my neighbor's kid is virtual with a private (she is getting treated for cancer) and that kid gets five days a week and a LOT more instructions than my kids. Those teachers seem to be rocking the concurrent model that is way too hard/difficult for the public school teachers.

There are teachers that are enjoying their four days a week a few hours a day schedule. They are phoning it in. They don't want to go back, but they were first in line to get a vaccine. They hang out with friends and do day trips - so it isn't fear of covid.

+1000.. **Some** teachers have gotten way too comfortable with a flexible, WFH job that should never be WFH and this flexible. They are getting the vaccine, seeing friends and family, taking trips (did you see the teacher that told her students she couldn't teach them because she was at Disney?). They are living their lives like normal and should be doing their jobs in-person like normal.

Love this comment. Truly do. It's so emblematic of this whole forum.

"Here's a fact I will give with absolutely no proof to support except ONE piece of anecdotal proof evidence. I am very intelligent."

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Anonymous wrote:If you launch into a tirade that necessitates your being escorted out by a deputy and lands you on FOX NEWS, you’re doing something wrong.

I mean completely disagree x1000. It's important that they see the anger, despair, and pain. SBs aren't listening to the bullet points.

However, I suppose he could have done an interpretative dance in support of RTS as a rebuttal to the CTU's clown dance this week.

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Anonymous wrote:If you launch into a tirade that necessitates your being escorted out by a deputy and lands you on FOX NEWS, you’re doing something wrong.

I mean completely disagree x1000. It's important that they see the anger, despair, and pain. SBs aren't listening to the bullet points.

However, I suppose he could have done an interpretative dance in support of RTS as a rebuttal to the CTU's clown dance this week.

I fully support and appreciate his forwardness. Yes, he's clearly very angry but that is exactly how many of us feel right now. Fox news clip was interesting that the FEA is represented by less than half of the teachers. It's a minority group with big voices that don't want to return and are only thinking of themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:He points out a sad truth. We care more about trash than school kids in this country.

Um no. Trash collectors don’t face anywhere close to the risk of acquiring Covid on the job as 15 people spending 6 hours in a poorly ventilated room.
Do you know nothing about viral load?

Please explain why most Catholic/private schools have been back since September at full capacity, explain daycare centers, explain indoor gyms/gymnastics/karate/etc. classes. Why are public schools an exception?

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Anonymous wrote:He points out a sad truth. We care more about trash than school kids in this country.

Um no. Trash collectors don’t face anywhere close to the risk of acquiring Covid on the job as 15 people spending 6 hours in a poorly ventilated room.
Do you know nothing about viral load?

Please explain why most Catholic/private schools have been back since September at full capacity, explain daycare centers, explain indoor gyms/gymnastics/karate/etc. classes. Why are public schools an exception?

Teachers' associations/unions.

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Anonymous wrote:He points out a sad truth. We care more about trash than school kids in this country.

Um no. Trash collectors don’t face anywhere close to the risk of acquiring Covid on the job as 15 people spending 6 hours in a poorly ventilated room.
Do you know nothing about viral load?

Please explain why most Catholic/private schools have been back since September at full capacity, explain daycare centers, explain indoor gyms/gymnastics/karate/etc. classes. Why are public schools an exception?

Teachers' associations/unions.

This country has done such an excellent job of telling people that if workers organize that's a bad thing.

Except cops, I guess.

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Anonymous wrote:He showed how not to act in public. Anyone complaining about their kids hating/not doing well in virtual school probably have parents like this guy... yelling, complaining, losing it. The foundation on how kids are in public starts at home. I want my kids in person at school, but I dread having my kids with kids who live with parents that have this kind of attitude and blow outs at home.

How many kids do you have? What are their ages? Do you have a career? Please enlighten us on how to successfully juggle this. My ES kids are about a year behind thanks to DL.

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Anonymous wrote:He points out a sad truth. We care more about trash than school kids in this country.

Um no. Trash collectors don’t face anywhere close to the risk of acquiring Covid on the job as 15 people spending 6 hours in a poorly ventilated room.
Do you know nothing about viral load?

Please explain why most Catholic/private schools have been back since September at full capacity, explain daycare centers, explain indoor gyms/gymnastics/karate/etc. classes. Why are public schools an exception?

because of the union representing a group of teachers that have gotten too comfortable with extremely cushy jobs.

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Anonymous wrote:He showed how not to act in public. Anyone complaining about their kids hating/not doing well in virtual school probably have parents like this guy... yelling, complaining, losing it. The foundation on how kids are in public starts at home. I want my kids in person at school, but I dread having my kids with kids who live with parents that have this kind of attitude and blow outs at home.

How many kids do you have? What are their ages? Do you have a career? Please enlighten us on how to successfully juggle this. My ES kids are about a year behind thanks to DL.

Same..

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Anonymous wrote:I applaud him. And the reason why no one thinks so is because I truly believe most people in the DMV don’t want a return to school.

Well most families in NOVA are choosing to remain virtual, so this is probably true.

Actually not true. Perhaps for Loudoun - but the pendulum is swinging the other way and at least in Alexandria, Fairfax and Arlington the majority of parents are pushing for in person.

Uhhhh at the FCPS school I work at, over 100 parents have switched their kid to virtual when given the opportunity last month.

Good, so it’ll be even easier to get RTS off the ground and help set protocols.

I mean, sure? But it is not the "majority of parents." It is a minority of parents. A minority of majority affluent parents. All the people screaming about "oh what about the most vulnerable." The most vulnerable and at risk students that are not logging on to do anything are remaining virtual.

DP. Do you really think the parents of the most-vulnerable students have the time to lobby against DL? Do you really think it’s easy for parents who *have* to leave the house for work to help their kids with DL? Thank god for the affluent parents who are doing the lobbying and speaking for the most vulnerable populations.

Get child care. The volume table don’t want to go back. It’s the affluent who can afford but refuse to pay for care having the fits.

I have no problem affording childcare, and I suspect you don’t either. The low-income parents who have to leave every day for work aren’t so lucky. They have to leave their kids at home to figure out DL for themselves. No wonder so many kids are checking out.

The narrative that the affluent are the ones who want schools open is disgusting and perverse. The data show low income children are falling behind. We have to educate them. Closed schools are creating enormous race, income, and gender inequality from women dropping out of the labor force in record numbers. That is what the social science says. UMC are using lower class kids as an excuse to sleep in and bake in pajamas.

You do realize that lower-income families and PoC are choosing distance learning at much higher rates than UMC/MC communities, right? Look at the differences between north and south Arlington.

What they choose is irrelevant. The data show they are falling behind. Society has a responsibility to educate them.

Yes, angry white men know better than the rest of us. Of course, we all need to listen to them.

What are you going to do? Round up all of the poor, brown kids and force your education on them?

Um, yes, that's literally what compulsory education is. And it's quite possible that it will resume before some people are ready. Then we'll either let their children continue to not be educated by very hard working but ineffective remote teachers or force them to go to school.

Sorry, just become some angry white man throws a temper tantrum, doesn't mean it will happen.

It's not 1952 anymore.

He is representative of millions out there.
And, you know who is suffering the worse the longer schools stay closed?
Poor students. Students of color. Immigrant students. Students with disabilities.
That "white man" was speaking for them too..

You and he DGAF about poor or brown kids. And you certainly do NOT speak for them. They chose DL at a much higher rate than white suburban families.

Sit TF down.

They just need their older kids to babysit the younger ones while the parents work in person jobs. It has nothing to do with fear of the virus or thinking DL is a better education.

BULLCRAP. You do NOT speak for them. Sit TF down.

Why don't you? Like you speak for ALL brown people?

No, I don't speak for them. And neither do you. Sit TF down.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He points out a sad truth. We care more about trash than school kids in this country.

Um no. Trash collectors don’t face anywhere close to the risk of acquiring Covid on the job as 15 people spending 6 hours in a poorly ventilated room.
Do you know nothing about viral load?

Please explain why most Catholic/private schools have been back since September at full capacity, explain daycare centers, explain indoor gyms/gymnastics/karate/etc. classes. Why are public schools an exception?

Because public schools are accountable for the health and safety of their students, teachers, and staff.

If it were safe (due to testing, procedures, PPE, vaccines, community spread, etc.) then they would have opened a long time ago (thanks, Trump turds, for ruining this for the rest of us).

With the vaccine rollout they will hopefully open soon.

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Anonymous wrote:He points out a sad truth. We care more about trash than school kids in this country.

Um no. Trash collectors don’t face anywhere close to the risk of acquiring Covid on the job as 15 people spending 6 hours in a poorly ventilated room.
Do you know nothing about viral load?

Please explain why most Catholic/private schools have been back since September at full capacity, explain daycare centers, explain indoor gyms/gymnastics/karate/etc. classes. Why are public schools an exception?

Teachers' associations/unions.

This country has done such an excellent job of telling people that if workers organize that's a bad thing.

Except cops, I guess.

Look at Chicago. Schools opened. The teachers' union said they weren't going back.
Presto!!! Schools closed..

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Anonymous wrote:He points out a sad truth. We care more about trash than school kids in this country.

Um no. Trash collectors don’t face anywhere close to the risk of acquiring Covid on the job as 15 people spending 6 hours in a poorly ventilated room.
Do you know nothing about viral load?

Please explain why most Catholic/private schools have been back since September at full capacity, explain daycare centers, explain indoor gyms/gymnastics/karate/etc. classes. Why are public schools an exception?

Because private schools require tuition to stay open. In order to collect tuition, they have to provide an appropriate and valuable service to their clients. They can't just phone it in and still get paid, like public schools.