Is LCPS doing that concurrent foolishness?

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Anonymous wrote:They won’t need subs. They will have teachers watching each others classes during planning time and splitting up classes to drop a few in other classrooms. It’s going to be hell for school admin to manage and teachers to do.

WTF is this????

It’s reality. Think about it. Teachers start having to quarantine or stay home sick because they can’t tell if it’s a cold or covid. No way we have enough subs now, we never did pre covid. The in school kids can’t sit in a room without physical supervision .

Not that many people are going g to have to quarantine because they won’t be defined as a close contact. People either don’t understand this or are being deliberately obtuse.

Oh really? The staff already quarantining in LCPS and FCPS says otherwise. This isn’t your problem. Your kid will go in. Its clear the board is pushing for that to happen so you can rest easy. It’s teachers’ problem how safe they are or feel and what to do about it. You don’t have a say over that part.

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Anonymous wrote:Did they tell teachers and staff about the metrics before they asked them to return in person, or did they pull a fast one like FCPS? I can't imagine anyone agreeing ahead of time to stay in person with numbers that high.

They did not tell teachers about metrics. Fast one is an understatement.

Which is why LEA and VEA will make sure these backwards decision do not take place.

Why am I not surprised? Take it from someone in-person in FCPS, it is not safe. Resign if you have to. I'm serious. I don't think LEA/FEA/VEA have as much power as some people on here claim, but they should be throwing their entire weight behind this. I'm disappointed they aren't. FEA is telling us to write letters and speak at the next board meeting, which is all well and good, but I suspect they'd be a lot more forceful if the people in charge had to be in person right now.

We know. I spent the whole break agonizing over this with my spouse. We decided I will leave if they still have this plan in January. I hate the choice but I will make it if that’s what it comes down to. I don’t think the Ed associations will have much power over this tbh. Perhaps the board will reconsider or, sadly, the metrics will reach the insanely high levels they set and it will be DL anyway but they cannot go forward with the plan that’s being presented 12/1. It is so far beyond the reasonable metrics set by every other district around us, it’s not even defensible. I dare say even some hybrid parents will find it particularly reckless.

The other districts metrics aren’t based on anything but random guesses either. You just like them better because they are closed and we are not.

The point is they are at least more reasonable and all in line with one another. It doesn’t make sense that every other district’s metrics are similar to one another and Loudoun is just basically saying no no let’s set them as high as possible AND make sure we hit both AND even then it will be 5 consecutive school days before that actually transitions to DL. Nobody else’s in this entire region are that lax. That alone is cause to reconsider them on top of the fact the board clearly didn’t spend much time planning them anyway given they were not willing to hold an emergency meeting about them and then suddenly decided them at a boundaries meeting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They won’t need subs. They will have teachers watching each others classes during planning time and splitting up classes to drop a few in other classrooms. It’s going to be hell for school admin to manage and teachers to do.

WTF is this????

It’s reality. Think about it. Teachers start having to quarantine or stay home sick because they can’t tell if it’s a cold or covid. No way we have enough subs now, we never did pre covid. The in school kids can’t sit in a room without physical supervision .

Reality? I think not.

What’s reality is that teachers have a contract that includes/contemplates these planning blocks. Yes, pre-covid they rob you of at least one for other dumb shit like study hall or other useless nonsense that admin doesn’t want to do.

However, stealing your planning blocks to occupy someone else’s is against the law. I know at least 3 lawyers-teachers waiting for that to happen.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They won’t need subs. They will have teachers watching each others classes during planning time and splitting up classes to drop a few in other classrooms. It’s going to be hell for school admin to manage and teachers to do.

WTF is this????

It’s reality. Think about it. Teachers start having to quarantine or stay home sick because they can’t tell if it’s a cold or covid. No way we have enough subs now, we never did pre covid. The in school kids can’t sit in a room without physical supervision .

Reality? I think not.

What’s reality is that teachers have a contract that includes/contemplates these planning blocks. Yes, pre-covid they rob you of at least one for other dumb shit like study hall or other useless nonsense that admin doesn’t want to do.

However, stealing your planning blocks to occupy someone else’s is against the law. I know at least 3 lawyers-teachers waiting for that to happen.

Great. Maybe they can explain the difference to you between “breaking the law” and breech of contract.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They won’t need subs. They will have teachers watching each others classes during planning time and splitting up classes to drop a few in other classrooms. It’s going to be hell for school admin to manage and teachers to do.

WTF is this????

It’s reality. Think about it. Teachers start having to quarantine or stay home sick because they can’t tell if it’s a cold or covid. No way we have enough subs now, we never did pre covid. The in school kids can’t sit in a room without physical supervision .

Reality? I think not.

What’s reality is that teachers have a contract that includes/contemplates these planning blocks. Yes, pre-covid they rob you of at least one for other dumb shit like study hall or other useless nonsense that admin doesn’t want to do.

However, stealing your planning blocks to occupy someone else’s is against the law. I know at least 3 lawyers-teachers waiting for that to happen.

Great. Maybe they can explain the difference to you between “breaking the law” and breech of contract.

A contract is a legally binding document. Key word: legally binding.

Breach, not breech you leech, is breaking a legal document. Breaking anything legal means breaking the law. Is that clear enough or would you like a PowerPoint with it?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They won’t need subs. They will have teachers watching each others classes during planning time and splitting up classes to drop a few in other classrooms. It’s going to be hell for school admin to manage and teachers to do.

WTF is this????

It’s reality. Think about it. Teachers start having to quarantine or stay home sick because they can’t tell if it’s a cold or covid. No way we have enough subs now, we never did pre covid. The in school kids can’t sit in a room without physical supervision .

Reality? I think not.

What’s reality is that teachers have a contract that includes/contemplates these planning blocks. Yes, pre-covid they rob you of at least one for other dumb shit like study hall or other useless nonsense that admin doesn’t want to do.

However, stealing your planning blocks to occupy someone else’s is against the law. I know at least 3 lawyers-teachers waiting for that to happen.

Great. Maybe they can explain the difference to you between “breaking the law” and breech of contract.

A contract is a legally binding document. Key word: legally binding.

Breach, not breech you leech, is breaking a legal document. Breaking anything legal means breaking the law. Is that clear enough or would you like a PowerPoint with it?

Nope, breaking a contract and breaking a law are not the same thing. But I hope your teacher-lawyer friends have fun suing the school district for taking their planning period!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They won’t need subs. They will have teachers watching each others classes during planning time and splitting up classes to drop a few in other classrooms. It’s going to be hell for school admin to manage and teachers to do.

WTF is this????

It’s reality. Think about it. Teachers start having to quarantine or stay home sick because they can’t tell if it’s a cold or covid. No way we have enough subs now, we never did pre covid. The in school kids can’t sit in a room without physical supervision .

Reality? I think not.

What’s reality is that teachers have a contract that includes/contemplates these planning blocks. Yes, pre-covid they rob you of at least one for other dumb shit like study hall or other useless nonsense that admin doesn’t want to do.

However, stealing your planning blocks to occupy someone else’s is against the law. I know at least 3 lawyers-teachers waiting for that to happen.

They would have no case. First because schools would say teachers could still plan on that time as they were only monitoring and not actively teaching. And they would pay teachers for it (though honestly every time I have had to watch a colleagues class I’ve never checked my paycheck two weeks later to see if it’s $26 higher or whatever). If they just split other classes and put 2-3 kids in a few different classes to be supervised you don’t have any grounds for anything and as long as there’s “dIsTaNcInG aNd mAsKs” it won’t count as a new exposure.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They won’t need subs. They will have teachers watching each others classes during planning time and splitting up classes to drop a few in other classrooms. It’s going to be hell for school admin to manage and teachers to do.

WTF is this????

It’s reality. Think about it. Teachers start having to quarantine or stay home sick because they can’t tell if it’s a cold or covid. No way we have enough subs now, we never did pre covid. The in school kids can’t sit in a room without physical supervision .

Reality? I think not.

What’s reality is that teachers have a contract that includes/contemplates these planning blocks. Yes, pre-covid they rob you of at least one for other dumb shit like study hall or other useless nonsense that admin doesn’t want to do.

However, stealing your planning blocks to occupy someone else’s is against the law. I know at least 3 lawyers-teachers waiting for that to happen.

They would have no case. First because schools would say teachers could still plan on that time as they were only monitoring and not actively teaching. And they would pay teachers for it (though honestly every time I have had to watch a colleagues class I’ve never checked my paycheck two weeks later to see if it’s $26 higher or whatever). If they just split other classes and put 2-3 kids in a few different classes to be supervised you don’t have any grounds for anything and as long as there’s “dIsTaNcInG aNd mAsKs” it won’t count as a new exposure.

Yeah that’s cute and all but teachers will simply take pics and with the evidence there will be not enough $ to pay the suits. It’s obvious you haven’t been around too long.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They won’t need subs. They will have teachers watching each others classes during planning time and splitting up classes to drop a few in other classrooms. It’s going to be hell for school admin to manage and teachers to do.

WTF is this????

It’s reality. Think about it. Teachers start having to quarantine or stay home sick because they can’t tell if it’s a cold or covid. No way we have enough subs now, we never did pre covid. The in school kids can’t sit in a room without physical supervision .

Reality? I think not.

What’s reality is that teachers have a contract that includes/contemplates these planning blocks. Yes, pre-covid they rob you of at least one for other dumb shit like study hall or other useless nonsense that admin doesn’t want to do.

However, stealing your planning blocks to occupy someone else’s is against the law. I know at least 3 lawyers-teachers waiting for that to happen.

They would have no case. First because schools would say teachers could still plan on that time as they were only monitoring and not actively teaching. And they would pay teachers for it (though honestly every time I have had to watch a colleagues class I’ve never checked my paycheck two weeks later to see if it’s $26 higher or whatever). If they just split other classes and put 2-3 kids in a few different classes to be supervised you don’t have any grounds for anything and as long as there’s “dIsTaNcInG aNd mAsKs” it won’t count as a new exposure.

Yeah that’s cute and all but teachers will simply take pics and with the evidence there will be not enough $ to pay the suits. It’s obvious you haven’t been around too long.

Ok.

[Anonymous]

OMG all these Judge Judy posters are cracking me up. You sound like a the Trump campaign legal team.

[Anonymous]

Guys, I think Tuesday is really happening. Kids are so excited!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Guys, I think Tuesday is really happening. Kids are so excited!

Exactly why did you think it wouldn’t? Their metrics are so high it’s certain 3-12 is going to be in no matter what.

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Anonymous wrote:Guys, I think Tuesday is really happening. Kids are so excited!

Exactly why did you think it wouldn’t? Their metrics are so high it’s certain 3-12 is going to be in no matter what.

Are you in LCPS? Doesn’t sound like it because only 3-5 goes in Tuesday.

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Anonymous wrote:Guys, I think Tuesday is really happening. Kids are so excited!

Exactly why did you think it wouldn’t? Their metrics are so high it’s certain 3-12 is going to be in no matter what.

Are you in LCPS? Doesn’t sound like it because only 3-5 goes in Tuesday.

Yes. 6-12 is January and it doesn’t matter how bad the numbers get. The kids are going in because saying both metrics have to be hit when the PPR is set to 10% is incredibly high. Even then it would have to stay there for 5 consecutive school days meaning if it drops to even 9.9 it resets and in person is “fine”. There’s no doubt in my mind they did this to make it nearly impossible to pause hybrid phasing, meaning 6-12 will go in January. 3-5 was also never in question. LCPS policy is written so much looser than every other districts so as to make in person nearly impossible to pause or revert. People acting like 3-5 making it in Tuesday is a huge surprise don’t understand metrics and how LCPS metrics make a full phase in possible even as other districts won’t send even K.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Guys, I think Tuesday is really happening. Kids are so excited!

Exactly why did you think it wouldn’t? Their metrics are so high it’s certain 3-12 is going to be in no matter what.

Are you in LCPS? Doesn’t sound like it because only 3-5 goes in Tuesday.

Yes. 6-12 is January and it doesn’t matter how bad the numbers get. The kids are going in because saying both metrics have to be hit when the PPR is set to 10% is incredibly high. Even then it would have to stay there for 5 consecutive school days meaning if it drops to even 9.9 it resets and in person is “fine”. There’s no doubt in my mind they did this to make it nearly impossible to pause hybrid phasing, meaning 6-12 will go in January. 3-5 was also never in question. LCPS policy is written so much looser than every other districts so as to make in person nearly impossible to pause or revert. People acting like 3-5 making it in Tuesday is a huge surprise don’t understand metrics and how LCPS metrics make a full phase in possible even as other districts won’t send even K.

Many many other districts are fully phased in. Maybe you should go teach in Fairfax.