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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There are 1206 schools of education in different US colleges and universities. 1206! And none of them have challenging admissions standards. This isn’t to say that there aren’t talented, intelligent teachers out there - because there are. The fact remains that there ARE way, way too many teachers that don’t belong in classrooms.[/quote

Yeah. Harvard has a school of education. Guess it is easy to get in there! You are obtuse. My husband works for the government. He tells me stories all the time of people who don’t belong there and literally do nothing. There are also doctors and lawyers who suck at their jobs. You can look at any industry and find examples of poor performance. This has nothing to do with colleges. This has to do with the system as a whole. Teachers are told what to do and teach. Start complaining to your governor and representatives, instead of bashing teacher intelligence.

The problem is, in other fields, the examples of poor performance are due to laziness. With teaching, the poor performance is a combination of laziness and stupidity.

But, that’s the problem when you need a math teacher that can also coach football.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are 1206 schools of education in different US colleges and universities. 1206! And none of them have challenging admissions standards. This isn’t to say that there aren’t talented, intelligent teachers out there - because there are. The fact remains that there ARE way, way too many teachers that don’t belong in classrooms.[/quote

Yeah. Harvard has a school of education. Guess it is easy to get in there! You are obtuse. My husband works for the government. He tells me stories all the time of people who don’t belong there and literally do nothing. There are also doctors and lawyers who suck at their jobs. You can look at any industry and find examples of poor performance. This has nothing to do with colleges. This has to do with the system as a whole. Teachers are told what to do and teach. Start complaining to your governor and representatives, instead of bashing teacher intelligence.

AGAIN, no one is saying that ALL teachers are poorly educated. The fact remains that for every Harvard school of education, there are hundreds of other terrible programs. A 2.5 GPA from a school no one has ever heard of isn’t very impressive.

Are there stupid attorneys out there? Sure. Not all law schools are great, but they are certainly more selective than schools of education. And bar exams are WAY more challenging than the Praxis.

Okay. Not buying that either. A lot of selective schools you can gain admission from who you know. Our president went to Penn but has the vocabulary of a second grader. How do you know where people went to school? Do you ask all of your kids teachers? College doesn’t define you. You can go to a community college and be successful and bright. There is a teacher shortage in the country because no one respects teachers. I consider myself a great teacher. Not because I am smart. Being a great teacher is more than intelligence.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are 1206 schools of education in different US colleges and universities. 1206! And none of them have challenging admissions standards. This isn’t to say that there aren’t talented, intelligent teachers out there - because there are. The fact remains that there ARE way, way too many teachers that don’t belong in classrooms.[/quote

Yeah. Harvard has a school of education. Guess it is easy to get in there! You are obtuse. My husband works for the government. He tells me stories all the time of people who don’t belong there and literally do nothing. There are also doctors and lawyers who suck at their jobs. You can look at any industry and find examples of poor performance. This has nothing to do with colleges. This has to do with the system as a whole. Teachers are told what to do and teach. Start complaining to your governor and representatives, instead of bashing teacher intelligence.

The problem is, in other fields, the examples of poor performance are due to laziness. With teaching, the poor performance is a combination of laziness and stupidity.

But, that’s the problem when you need a math teacher that can also coach football.

Okay. So when a doctor says they cannot find anything wrong and then you go to two other doctors that run the same tests, the original doctor was lazy? Or maybe they don’t keep up with the education in their specialty!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This post is ridiculous. The problems are not the teachers and their training. It is the gov’t forcing a gazillion standards every year and teaching to a test. The difference between the US and other countries is they focus on fewer standards per year. They spend a lot of time on the 3R’s in ES but the kids have the time to master it. If teachers had more autonomy in how and what they taught, you would see grammar and spelling coming back. You would def see more writing. You would actually see health being taught. Are there bad teachers? Yes! But their are bad people in even highly competitive fields.

How can we expect our children to be educated at a higher level than the teachers themselves? College students entering schools of education have SAT scores in the lower half of percentiles. They accept almost anyone. Why are we surprised at our outcomes?

This is completely false. Many teachers did not originally major in education. I did not get my bachelors in education. Many are career changers who had other jobs. I would say at my school the majority of teachers did not originally plan to go into teaching originally and majored in other things. For god sakes Columbia is the highest rated education program in the country. Highly selective schools have education programs. I went into teaching because I wanted to make a difference. I consider myself a highly educated individual. Do I wish I could change how education is done in our country? Absolutely. But it isn’t cause of the teachers. It is the government and the red tape that makes it difficult to teach the way we want.

Yes. I have a BA in Comparative Literature from Harvard, and I am a teacher because that was my dream career (if I could go back and tell my 20 year old self what I know now about the job and how teachers are regarded, I might have made a different choice). I am tired of reading about how teachers are unintelligent and poorly educated.

Very similar. Undergrad degree in a public policy field at the number 3 program in the country, MA in a related field from another highly regarded U, worked abroad in that career and earning a second grad degree in third field before teaching college for years. And then thinking, stupidly, if I could just get these kids younger I could do so much with them. Only then, taking education courses.

[Anonymous]

Come on guys. We all know that an education degree is very hard to get. All of my friends that chose elementary education as their majors couldn’t go to frat parties with the rest of us. They were all stuck in the libraries studying all night.

[Anonymous]

There’s so much more to teaching than from where one graduated. This thread highlights some of the worst dispositions about NoVA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Come on guys. We all know that an education degree is very hard to get. All of my friends that chose elementary education as their majors couldn’t go to frat parties with the rest of us. They were all stuck in the libraries studying all night.

So? Are you the exact same person you were in college? Surely you understand most adults aren’t the 20 year old version of themselves right? You can still be a great teacher even if you went to omg Radford. Even if you went to omg frat parties.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn’t actually matter what you think. My lessons and pedagogy have been published in national publications. I’ve received letters of commendation from my district. You don’t have any insight into what or how we teach, the progress our students make, the lengths we go to to help our students simply by reading posts on a message board, especially about a topic that has devolved this much. If you want to homeschool, do. It’s your prerogative. But maybe humble yourself a bit to realize that if you don’t teach, it is possible that there are aspects of what goes into that that you don’t fully understand. I’ve ridden on airplanes. I don’t presume to tell pilots how to fly planes simply because I’ve been a passenger.

All fair points, until the rubber meets the road. If we are falling behind other countries your lessons and pedagogy published in national publications and commendations don’t amount to anything more than part of the problem. I know that may seem harsh, and we know it can’t be easy teaching, but you have to admit from unions to bad policy it’s all failing badly.

My students have a 100% pass rate in my grade level SOL that I prepped them for. 100%. No matter what you want to believe, people you disagree with can still be good teachers. In fact, some of us are good teachers specifically because we don’t teach the way some people who aren’t in education and don’t work with kids believe we should.

The US SOLs pale in comparison to those of other developed nations. So your class had a 100% pass rate on an easy test. Yay!

In other countries, becoming a teacher is just as hard as becoming a doctor - and their students are smarter because of it.

Yeah well in those countries people don’t talk to teachers like they’re boot lickers either. Look at the way all of you speak to ask about the very people you’re currently furious your kids aren’t spending 40 hours a week with. How is it possible people are screaming all at once MY KIDS NEED TO BE IN SCHOOL and ALL TEACHERS AND SCHOOLS SUCK. Which is it? I’m a moron who shouldn’t be allowed to teach kids or I’m the one person your kid needs to be with because being at home all day is bad for them?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It doesn’t actually matter what you think. My lessons and pedagogy have been published in national publications. I’ve received letters of commendation from my district. You don’t have any insight into what or how we teach, the progress our students make, the lengths we go to to help our students simply by reading posts on a message board, especially about a topic that has devolved this much. If you want to homeschool, do. It’s your prerogative. But maybe humble yourself a bit to realize that if you don’t teach, it is possible that there are aspects of what goes into that that you don’t fully understand. I’ve ridden on airplanes. I don’t presume to tell pilots how to fly planes simply because I’ve been a passenger.

All fair points, until the rubber meets the road. If we are falling behind other countries your lessons and pedagogy published in national publications and commendations don’t amount to anything more than part of the problem. I know that may seem harsh, and we know it can’t be easy teaching, but you have to admit from unions to bad policy it’s all failing badly.

My students have a 100% pass rate in my grade level SOL that I prepped them for. 100%. No matter what you want to believe, people you disagree with can still be good teachers. In fact, some of us are good teachers specifically because we don’t teach the way some people who aren’t in education and don’t work with kids believe we should.

A D- is a passing grade so saying 100% pass rate doesn’t tell us anything.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It doesn’t actually matter what you think. My lessons and pedagogy have been published in national publications. I’ve received letters of commendation from my district. You don’t have any insight into what or how we teach, the progress our students make, the lengths we go to to help our students simply by reading posts on a message board, especially about a topic that has devolved this much. If you want to homeschool, do. It’s your prerogative. But maybe humble yourself a bit to realize that if you don’t teach, it is possible that there are aspects of what goes into that that you don’t fully understand. I’ve ridden on airplanes. I don’t presume to tell pilots how to fly planes simply because I’ve been a passenger.

All fair points, until the rubber meets the road. If we are falling behind other countries your lessons and pedagogy published in national publications and commendations don’t amount to anything more than part of the problem. I know that may seem harsh, and we know it can’t be easy teaching, but you have to admit from unions to bad policy it’s all failing badly.

My students have a 100% pass rate in my grade level SOL that I prepped them for. 100%. No matter what you want to believe, people you disagree with can still be good teachers. In fact, some of us are good teachers specifically because we don’t teach the way some people who aren’t in education and don’t work with kids believe we should.

The US SOLs pale in comparison to those of other developed nations. So your class had a 100% pass rate on an easy test. Yay!

In other countries, becoming a teacher is just as hard as becoming a doctor - and their students are smarter because of it.

Yeah well in those countries people don’t talk to teachers like they’re boot lickers either. Look at the way all of you speak to ask about the very people you’re currently furious your kids aren’t spending 40 hours a week with. How is it possible people are screaming all at once MY KIDS NEED TO BE IN SCHOOL and ALL TEACHERS AND SCHOOLS SUCK. Which is it? I’m a moron who shouldn’t be allowed to teach kids or I’m the one person your kid needs to be with because being at home all day is bad for them?

You wrote this at 4:11 am, which is probably why it makes no sense whatsoever, sweetie, but why in the world would you be up so late if you have to teach in the morning?

You might want to look up the definition of boot licker if you plan on keeping it in your vocabulary.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It doesn’t actually matter what you think. My lessons and pedagogy have been published in national publications. I’ve received letters of commendation from my district. You don’t have any insight into what or how we teach, the progress our students make, the lengths we go to to help our students simply by reading posts on a message board, especially about a topic that has devolved this much. If you want to homeschool, do. It’s your prerogative. But maybe humble yourself a bit to realize that if you don’t teach, it is possible that there are aspects of what goes into that that you don’t fully understand. I’ve ridden on airplanes. I don’t presume to tell pilots how to fly planes simply because I’ve been a passenger.

All fair points, until the rubber meets the road. If we are falling behind other countries your lessons and pedagogy published in national publications and commendations don’t amount to anything more than part of the problem. I know that may seem harsh, and we know it can’t be easy teaching, but you have to admit from unions to bad policy it’s all failing badly.

My students have a 100% pass rate in my grade level SOL that I prepped them for. 100%. No matter what you want to believe, people you disagree with can still be good teachers. In fact, some of us are good teachers specifically because we don’t teach the way some people who aren’t in education and don’t work with kids believe we should.

The US SOLs pale in comparison to those of other developed nations. So your class had a 100% pass rate on an easy test. Yay!

In other countries, becoming a teacher is just as hard as becoming a doctor - and their students are smarter because of it.

Yeah well in those countries people don’t talk to teachers like they’re boot lickers either. Look at the way all of you speak to ask about the very people you’re currently furious your kids aren’t spending 40 hours a week with. How is it possible people are screaming all at once MY KIDS NEED TO BE IN SCHOOL and ALL TEACHERS AND SCHOOLS SUCK. Which is it? I’m a moron who shouldn’t be allowed to teach kids or I’m the one person your kid needs to be with because being at home all day is bad for them?

You wrote this at 4:11 am, which is probably why it makes no sense whatsoever, sweetie, but why in the world would you be up so late if you have to teach in the morning?

You might want to look up the definition of boot licker if you plan on keeping it in your vocabulary.

I wasn’t up late, I was up early.

Preparing all my materials to teach all day. Answering emails. Making sure grades are up to date since the quarter ends next week. All those “outside contract hours” things were have to do for free to ensure your kids actually get an education.

You addresses nothing I said. If you think other counties have better teachers, consider how they also TREAT their teachers. Of course kids don’t want to grow up to be teachers anymore. They see how their parents trash and disparage and disrespect teachers all day long. Oh, but sure enough, despite believing we are all idiots who can barely function, you also believe your children are suffering by not being in the building with us 5 days a week right now. You can’t have it both ways. Either we are valuable to the extent your kids not being with us is bad, or we are useless idiots.

[Anonymous]

Imagine being so arrogant to think that the entire school experience revolves around the individual teacher.

No sweetie, the kids need the social aspects too. You know this, or I hope you know this. They also need structure in their day. They need recess and soccer and bell schedules.

Teachers keep telling us screen time is bad, then DL is all on screens all day long, which is totally fine. That is the true hypocrisy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Imagine being so arrogant to think that the entire school experience revolves around the individual teacher.

No sweetie, the kids need the social aspects too. You know this, or I hope you know this. They also need structure in their day. They need recess and soccer and bell schedules.

Teachers keep telling us screen time is bad, then DL is all on screens all day long, which is totally fine. That is the true hypocrisy.

Definitely your point is so much stronger because you add sweetie in every comment. Brilliance I tell you. Rhetorical strategy at its finest. You’re also completely off topic. Now we are circling around to whether DL is good or not? Nobody in this thread is having that argument.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine being so arrogant to think that the entire school experience revolves around the individual teacher.

No sweetie, the kids need the social aspects too. You know this, or I hope you know this. They also need structure in their day. They need recess and soccer and bell schedules.

Teachers keep telling us screen time is bad, then DL is all on screens all day long, which is totally fine. That is the true hypocrisy.

Definitely your point is so much stronger because you add sweetie in every comment. Brilliance I tell you. Rhetorical strategy at its finest. You’re also completely off topic. Now we are circling around to whether DL is good or not? Nobody in this thread is having that argument.

Different poster here. We send our kids to school for socialization, and because I need a babysitter so I can work for a few hours. The real learning happens at home. We have to supplement due to the poor education they received in elementary. They are now thriving!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine being so arrogant to think that the entire school experience revolves around the individual teacher.

No sweetie, the kids need the social aspects too. You know this, or I hope you know this. They also need structure in their day. They need recess and soccer and bell schedules.

Teachers keep telling us screen time is bad, then DL is all on screens all day long, which is totally fine. That is the true hypocrisy.

Definitely your point is so much stronger because you add sweetie in every comment. Brilliance I tell you. Rhetorical strategy at its finest. You’re also completely off topic. Now we are circling around to whether DL is good or not? Nobody in this thread is having that argument.

Different poster here. We send our kids to school for socialization, and because I need a babysitter so I can work for a few hours. The real learning happens at home. We have to supplement due to the poor education they received in elementary. They are now thriving!

Ok? Is this show and share time?