If your daycare or childcare provider closed due to coronavirus, are they still requiring you to pay

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Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn’t they? Teachers need to be paid and you need a spot. Don’t be frugal and think it’s ok. You won’t have a spot when you need it. If I was a preschool I would keep track and not reenroll any parents that didn’t support.

Don't you think that it a business owner's responsibility to carry insurance to cover their loss? Why do you believe that a preschool is different than any other business? Should a restaurant charge you for a meal that they did not serve? Should an airline charge you for a flight that they canceled?

we usually have a beer down the street at the local bar every Saturday? Do we keep paying even though we aren’t going? Do we pay for gas we usually buy even though we aren’t driving to work? Do we pay restaurant workers for service even thought we aren’t getting it? No.

Maybe daycare is different, but it massively sucks to pay fees more expensive than my mortgage for services I am not getting. Day care workers can’t work from home so I am doing that job AND working. I would I’ve to get paid for not working too. It sucks. This situation is unfair to all of us. I don’t know the answers. Also, I am not a charity. I donate and volunteer too, but I am, not a charity, and my husband could be laid off at any moment. I’d rather save the money for my own family.

Sure. So just don’t say your support the teachers again because your words have no meaning. It’s adversity like this that lets people know if you care. Nobody said support and sacrifice don’t go hand in hand.

I love and support my best friend, but I’m not emptying my family’s savings account to send her thousands a month if she gets laid off during this. I would try to help to the extent I could with sending some grocery gift cards and such. But I would expect she would file for unemployment, which is like 1k/week right now. I think some people have a really weird idea of what “supporting” teachers is supposed to look like.

+1 seriously some of these daycare providers posting on here sound unhinged

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Anonymous wrote:Ours required us to pay through March, but not in April. Employees are on unemployment, which has gotten a lot more generous, but the daycare is continuing to pay benefits. We are donating to the daycare (a nonprofit) to help pay for admin staff and benefits, but that is entirely voluntary.

We are doing the same, although it's actually not clear whether the teachers have officially been furloughed or not yet. If so, they will probably be ok in the short term with the unemployment benefits, but I want to be sure they have enough to pay rent, benefits, etc. and be there when it is time to open back up.

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Ours is open for kids of essential workers, but most of us are home for at least a month. Our director has emailed us as a group and asked us if we can keep paying so that she doesn't need to layoff the teacher, but families are allowed to "opt in" to a level they feel comfortable with -- 100%, 75% , 50% or nothing. We have a very mixed income daycare, and some parents have lost their jobs. I would pay MORE than 100% if we could keep our community the same (families, teachers, everyone) after this crisis has died down. Our state IS giving aid to daycare providers, so it's possible that we will get refunds later (although I kind of doubt it) but in the meanwhile, she needs to make cashflow. I have not had any income consequences as a result of this and will absolutely support our daycare and their staff as long as we can do so.

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What are the legal issues at play here? Our daycare is charging tomorrow for the second half of April; no options for opting out. They also recently changed their withdrawal policy to be 90 days instead of 30 days. I’m just wondering what my options are, legally...

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Anonymous wrote:What are the legal issues at play here? Our daycare is charging tomorrow for the second half of April; no options for opting out. They also recently changed their withdrawal policy to be 90 days instead of 30 days. I’m just wondering what my options are, legally...

That is shady. When can one party unilaterally amend a contract?

My guess is that they are already spending deposit funds and that you likely will never see that money again.

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Some daycares backtracking and sending out refunds. Hallelujah!!

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Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn’t they? Teachers need to be paid and you need a spot. Don’t be frugal and think it’s ok. You won’t have a spot when you need it. If I was a preschool I would keep track and not reenroll any parents that didn’t support.

Don't you think that it a business owner's responsibility to carry insurance to cover their loss? Why do you believe that a preschool is different than any other business? Should a restaurant charge you for a meal that they did not serve? Should an airline charge you for a flight that they canceled?

we usually have a beer down the street at the local bar every Saturday? Do we keep paying even though we aren’t going? Do we pay for gas we usually buy even though we aren’t driving to work? Do we pay restaurant workers for service even thought we aren’t getting it? No.

Maybe daycare is different, but it massively sucks to pay fees more expensive than my mortgage for services I am not getting. Day care workers can’t work from home so I am doing that job AND working. I would I’ve to get paid for not working too. It sucks. This situation is unfair to all of us. I don’t know the answers. Also, I am not a charity. I donate and volunteer too, but I am, not a charity, and my husband could be laid off at any moment. I’d rather save the money for my own family.

Sure. So just don’t say your support the teachers again because your words have no meaning. It’s adversity like this that lets people know if you care. Nobody said support and sacrifice don’t go hand in hand.

I love and support my best friend, but I’m not emptying my family’s savings account to send her thousands a month if she gets laid off during this. I would try to help to the extent I could with sending some grocery gift cards and such. But I would expect she would file for unemployment, which is like 1k/week right now. I think some people have a really weird idea of what “supporting” teachers is supposed to look like.

+1 seriously some of these daycare providers posting on here sound unhinged

I am so over this message board’s excessive and hyperbolic use of the word “unhinged”.

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Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn’t they? Teachers need to be paid and you need a spot. Don’t be frugal and think it’s ok. You won’t have a spot when you need it. If I was a preschool I would keep track and not reenroll any parents that didn’t support.

Don't you think that it a business owner's responsibility to carry insurance to cover their loss? Why do you believe that a preschool is different than any other business? Should a restaurant charge you for a meal that they did not serve? Should an airline charge you for a flight that they canceled?

we usually have a beer down the street at the local bar every Saturday? Do we keep paying even though we aren’t going? Do we pay for gas we usually buy even though we aren’t driving to work? Do we pay restaurant workers for service even thought we aren’t getting it? No.

Maybe daycare is different, but it massively sucks to pay fees more expensive than my mortgage for services I am not getting. Day care workers can’t work from home so I am doing that job AND working. I would I’ve to get paid for not working too. It sucks. This situation is unfair to all of us. I don’t know the answers. Also, I am not a charity. I donate and volunteer too, but I am, not a charity, and my husband could be laid off at any moment. I’d rather save the money for my own family.

Sure. So just don’t say your support the teachers again because your words have no meaning. It’s adversity like this that lets people know if you care. Nobody said support and sacrifice don’t go hand in hand.

I love and support my best friend, but I’m not emptying my family’s savings account to send her thousands a month if she gets laid off during this. I would try to help to the extent I could with sending some grocery gift cards and such. But I would expect she would file for unemployment, which is like 1k/week right now. I think some people have a really weird idea of what “supporting” teachers is supposed to look like.

+1 seriously some of these daycare providers posting on here sound unhinged

I am so over this message board’s excessive and hyperbolic use of the word “unhinged”.

Lol the truth hurts

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn’t they? Teachers need to be paid and you need a spot. Don’t be frugal and think it’s ok. You won’t have a spot when you need it. If I was a preschool I would keep track and not reenroll any parents that didn’t support.

I wouldn't be surprised if they did keep the track of the parents who withdrew their kids. However, it would be nice for daycares to be appreciative of the parents who do pay any part of the tuition. A little thank you goes a long ways, especially when we're talking about thousands of dollars.

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Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn’t they? Teachers need to be paid and you need a spot. Don’t be frugal and think it’s ok. You won’t have a spot when you need it. If I was a preschool I would keep track and not reenroll any parents that didn’t support.

I wouldn't be surprised if they did keep the track of the parents who withdrew their kids. However, it would be nice for daycares to be appreciative of the parents who do pay any part of the tuition. A little thank you goes a long ways, especially when we're talking about thousands of dollars.

So basically you’re advocating preschools keep track of which families are wealthy enough to continue paying and shunning families financially affected by the pandemic who cannot pay? Wow.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn’t they? Teachers need to be paid and you need a spot. Don’t be frugal and think it’s ok. You won’t have a spot when you need it. If I was a preschool I would keep track and not reenroll any parents that didn’t support.

I wouldn't be surprised if they did keep the track of the parents who withdrew their kids. However, it would be nice for daycares to be appreciative of the parents who do pay any part of the tuition. A little thank you goes a long ways, especially when we're talking about thousands of dollars.

Do you hear yourselves? You want to keep track of parents who have to make a choice between paying for preschool vs paying rent. Even during times like this, when income is uncertain. Just sad! I would gladly donate directly to a fund just for the teachers, than continue to pad the pockets of the owners.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sort of shocked you would consider this a question.

How do you propose any of the staff pay themselves if you aren't paying tuition?

This should've been worked into your budget from the beginning.

Right, because we all plan for a pandemic every year.

Actually, no. If families are out of work, they won't pay for childcare they're not using. Even if they're still being paid now, that job might be gone soon because their employers are perhaps not going to stay in business for long.

So no.

I'm shocked you would even entertain that notion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn’t they? Teachers need to be paid and you need a spot. Don’t be frugal and think it’s ok. You won’t have a spot when you need it. If I was a preschool I would keep track and not reenroll any parents that didn’t support.

I wouldn't be surprised if they did keep the track of the parents who withdrew their kids. However, it would be nice for daycares to be appreciative of the parents who do pay any part of the tuition. A little thank you goes a long ways, especially when we're talking about thousands of dollars.

So basically you’re advocating preschools keep track of which families are wealthy enough to continue paying and shunning families financially affected by the pandemic who cannot pay? Wow.

I don't think I'm advocating for anything? I just said I wouldn't be surprised if that happened.

Have you considered that some families aren't actually "wealthy", but aren't in the precarious situation of losing income? So that they are continuing to pay for a non-existent service that had already been budgeted, so that the teachers can still get some income as well? Isn't that what people are asking for here? Keep paying your daycare if you can to help the teachers?

But ok...judge away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We have a before and after school program in McLean that closed March 15th through April 3rd. Opening again on April 6th, but will switching to all day care, 7:00 a.m. until 6:30 p.m., all of the school work with the kids will be completed daily, through the end of the school year. And a partial credit for the 3 weeks closed is being given for April.

How can they open in April when everything is shut down until June?

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Then how are there corporate for profit chains? They
must make
Money somehow?