MCPS Boundary Study Meeting Tonight (12/11) at Julius West @ 7pm

[Anonymous]

As I stated, some of those parents should be ashamed of themselves and were terrible role models for our children.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/this-is-just-people-screaming-tension-boils-over-at-school-boundaries-meeting/

“I would never want to come to a meeting like this again,” an eighth grader at Julius West said. “This is just people screaming and people screaming back.”

I'm glad now I didn't go, and I live in this cluster. I'm pretty disgusted by some of the parents. I would've been seriously annoyed at the constant disruptions when all I would've wanted is to listen and get some information. This was an informational night, and some of the parents turned it into a mob.

Wow, I'm surprised at uber liberal MoCo residents. I guess they are NIMBYs after all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As I stated, some of those parents should be ashamed of themselves and were terrible role models for our children.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/this-is-just-people-screaming-tension-boils-over-at-school-boundaries-meeting/

“I would never want to come to a meeting like this again,” an eighth grader at Julius West said. “This is just people screaming and people screaming back.”

I'm glad now I didn't go, and I live in this cluster. I'm pretty disgusted by some of the parents. I would've been seriously annoyed at the constant disruptions when all I would've wanted is to listen and get some information. This was an informational night, and some of the parents turned it into a mob.

Wow, I'm surprised at uber liberal MoCo residents. I guess they are NIMBYs after all.

Uber liberal does not mean that you burn their houses to light up yours and in the process they will be happily sitting on the sidelines. Welcome to the real world!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As I stated, some of those parents should be ashamed of themselves and were terrible role models for our children.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/this-is-just-people-screaming-tension-boils-over-at-school-boundaries-meeting/

“I would never want to come to a meeting like this again,” an eighth grader at Julius West said. “This is just people screaming and people screaming back.”

I'm glad now I didn't go, and I live in this cluster. I'm pretty disgusted by some of the parents. I would've been seriously annoyed at the constant disruptions when all I would've wanted is to listen and get some information. This was an informational night, and some of the parents turned it into a mob.

Wow, I'm surprised at uber liberal MoCo residents. I guess they are NIMBYs after all.

Uber liberal does not mean that you burn their houses to light up yours and in the process they will be happily sitting on the sidelines. Welcome to the real world!

Huh. I didn't read anything about house-burning in the RFP. Maybe you were one of the screaming parents at the meeting last night?

[Anonymous]

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. The more these people speak out in public, the better it is for the cause of equity in this county. This is a really, really bad look for them. Media coverage will be embarrassing. Reasonable people in the middle will not want to be associated with them. Keep at it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. The more these people speak out in public, the better it is for the cause of equity in this county. This is a really, really bad look for them. Media coverage will be embarrassing. Reasonable people in the middle will not want to be associated with them. Keep at it.

I don’t think so. The more you call them racist and segregationists, the weaker your argument becomes. This playbook is getting old. If everyone’s racist, then no one is a racist. Plus no one believes that there are racists in MoCo. We’re waaaay to liberal for that. Everyone’s a fragile little snowflake here.

[Anonymous]

Also, these folks know that they aren’t racist. These are life long Democrat’s who’ve fought for liberal causes their whole lives. They just disagree with what the BOE has done and no longer trust them. It’s a shame.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. The more these people speak out in public, the better it is for the cause of equity in this county. This is a really, really bad look for them. Media coverage will be embarrassing. Reasonable people in the middle will not want to be associated with them. Keep at it.

I don’t think so. The more you call them racist and segregationists, the weaker your argument becomes. This playbook is getting old. If everyone’s racist, then no one is a racist. Plus no one believes that there are racists in MoCo. We’re waaaay to liberal for that. Everyone’s a fragile little snowflake here.

Not everyone is a racist. But some people are racists, even in Montgomery County. And racist or no, the behavior of some study opponents at last night's meeting was appalling.

[Anonymous]

It was a pretty tame version of civil disobedience. I believe they made the point they intended to make.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It was a pretty tame version of civil disobedience. I believe they made the point they intended to make.

Definition of civil disobedience

: refusal to obey governmental demands or commands especially as a nonviolent and usually collective means of forcing concessions from the government

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/civil%20disobedience

Which governmental demands or commands where the heckling parents refusing to obey last night? The demand to behave like adults at a public meeting?

If the point they intended to make is that they're willing and able to act like a mob to bully consultants to the point of tears - yeah, they made that point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. The more these people speak out in public, the better it is for the cause of equity in this county. This is a really, really bad look for them. Media coverage will be embarrassing. Reasonable people in the middle will not want to be associated with them. Keep at it.

I don’t think so. The more you call them racist and segregationists, the weaker your argument becomes. This playbook is getting old. If everyone’s racist, then no one is a racist. Plus no one believes that there are racists in MoCo. We’re waaaay to liberal for that. Everyone’s a fragile little snowflake here.

The people that want these changes are basically saying “agree with me or you’re a racist segregationist”. Attacking people that disagree with you isn’t a great way to win an argument.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. The more these people speak out in public, the better it is for the cause of equity in this county. This is a really, really bad look for them. Media coverage will be embarrassing. Reasonable people in the middle will not want to be associated with them. Keep at it.

I don’t think so. The more you call them racist and segregationists, the weaker your argument becomes. This playbook is getting old. If everyone’s racist, then no one is a racist. Plus no one believes that there are racists in MoCo. We’re waaaay to liberal for that. Everyone’s a fragile little snowflake here.

The people that want these changes are basically saying “agree with me or you’re a racist segregationist”. Attacking people that disagree with you isn’t a great way to win an argument.

Some of the people who disagree actually are racist segregationists. And while others are not racist segregationists, they are nonetheless advancing racist and/or segregationist positions.

Maybe the people who are being called racist segregationists, and who don't like being called racist segregationists, should spend some time thinking about why they are being called racist segregationists.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. The more these people speak out in public, the better it is for the cause of equity in this county. This is a really, really bad look for them. Media coverage will be embarrassing. Reasonable people in the middle will not want to be associated with them. Keep at it.

I don’t think so. The more you call them racist and segregationists, the weaker your argument becomes. This playbook is getting old. If everyone’s racist, then no one is a racist. Plus no one believes that there are racists in MoCo. We’re waaaay to liberal for that. Everyone’s a fragile little snowflake here.

The people that want these changes are basically saying “agree with me or you’re a racist segregationist”. Attacking people that disagree with you isn’t a great way to win an argument.

Some of the people who disagree actually are racist segregationists. And while others are not racist segregationists, they are nonetheless advancing racist and/or segregationist positions.

Maybe the people who are being called racist segregationists, and who don't like being called racist segregationists, should spend some time thinking about why they are being called racist segregationists.

No, it is your opinion that these are racist and segregationist positions. But keep using those words. They lose power every time you do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. The more these people speak out in public, the better it is for the cause of equity in this county. This is a really, really bad look for them. Media coverage will be embarrassing. Reasonable people in the middle will not want to be associated with them. Keep at it.

I don’t think so. The more you call them racist and segregationists, the weaker your argument becomes. This playbook is getting old. If everyone’s racist, then no one is a racist. Plus no one believes that there are racists in MoCo. We’re waaaay to liberal for that. Everyone’s a fragile little snowflake here.

The people that want these changes are basically saying “agree with me or you’re a racist segregationist”. Attacking people that disagree with you isn’t a great way to win an argument.

Some of the people who disagree actually are racist segregationists. And while others are not racist segregationists, they are nonetheless advancing racist and/or segregationist positions.

Maybe the people who are being called racist segregationists, and who don't like being called racist segregationists, should spend some time thinking about why they are being called racist segregationists.

This pretty much never happens. It’s “calling out” culture at its worst. “Calling out” doesn’t make people change their minds or think about their positions, it makes them dislike you and get defensive. You have to go at people with questions, facts, and compassion. That’s how you get people to rethink their beliefs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. The more these people speak out in public, the better it is for the cause of equity in this county. This is a really, really bad look for them. Media coverage will be embarrassing. Reasonable people in the middle will not want to be associated with them. Keep at it.

I don’t think so. The more you call them racist and segregationists, the weaker your argument becomes. This playbook is getting old. If everyone’s racist, then no one is a racist. Plus no one believes that there are racists in MoCo. We’re waaaay to liberal for that. Everyone’s a fragile little snowflake here.

The people that want these changes are basically saying “agree with me or you’re a racist segregationist”. Attacking people that disagree with you isn’t a great way to win an argument.

Some of the people who disagree actually are racist segregationists. And while others are not racist segregationists, they are nonetheless advancing racist and/or segregationist positions.

Maybe the people who are being called racist segregationists, and who don't like being called racist segregationists, should spend some time thinking about why they are being called racist segregationists.

No, it is your opinion that these are racist and segregationist positions. But keep using those words. They lose power every time you do.

Dude. Some people are explicitly making explicitly race-based arguments that explicitly advocate for segregation.

I know that nobody wants to be called a racist, including racists. We can call it whatever you want. We can call it shoes, if you want. Racism is still racism.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. The more these people speak out in public, the better it is for the cause of equity in this county. This is a really, really bad look for them. Media coverage will be embarrassing. Reasonable people in the middle will not want to be associated with them. Keep at it.

I don’t think so. The more you call them racist and segregationists, the weaker your argument becomes. This playbook is getting old. If everyone’s racist, then no one is a racist. Plus no one believes that there are racists in MoCo. We’re waaaay to liberal for that. Everyone’s a fragile little snowflake here.

The people that want these changes are basically saying “agree with me or you’re a racist segregationist”. Attacking people that disagree with you isn’t a great way to win an argument.

Some of the people who disagree actually are racist segregationists. And while others are not racist segregationists, they are nonetheless advancing racist and/or segregationist positions.

Maybe the people who are being called racist segregationists, and who don't like being called racist segregationists, should spend some time thinking about why they are being called racist segregationists.

This pretty much never happens. It’s “calling out” culture at its worst. “Calling out” doesn’t make people change their minds or think about their positions, it makes them dislike you and get defensive. You have to go at people with questions, facts, and compassion. That’s how you get people to rethink their beliefs.

And don’t waste your time on the ones that will never agree with you. You’re not posting/arguing to win over those adamantly opposed to you and unwilling to listen. You’re arguing for the people who quietly sympathize with your opponent but are open to hearing facts/reconsidering, etc.