Economy is roaring

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Anonymous wrote:Democrats have abandoned the middle class

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/12/09/massive-triumph-rich-illustrated-by-stunning-new-data/?utm_campaign=post_most&utm_medium=Email&utm_source=Newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1


From your link:

“The declining progressivity of the tax code is the subject of “The Triumph of Injustice,” a great new book by Zucman and fellow Berkeley economist Emmanuel Saez. It charts the slow strangulation of that progressivity at the top.

As they demonstrate, the effective tax rate (federal, state, local and other taxes) paid by top earners has steadily declined since the 1950s and 1960s, when the tax code really was quite progressive, to a point where the highest income groups pay barely more, percentage wise, than the bottom.”


Now, please do tell the class which American political party has championed lowering the effective tax rate paid by top earners? Almost to the exclusion of every other policy? HINT: It’s not the Democrats.


Democrats have abandoned their role in pushing back on republican nonsense. They continue to focus on screwing low skilled workers.

democrats only - Agricultural Worker Program Act of 2019 This bill establishes a program for alien agricultural workers to obtain temporary resident status ("blue card status") and procedures to obtain permanent resident status. An alien shall qualify for the status if he or she performed the required amount of qualified agricultural work. The Department of Homeland Security may grant blue card status to qualified individuals who pass security checks and are...

everywhere you turn, Dems still want to screw the middle class.

https://projects.propublica.org/represent/bills/116/hr641

and

More than 300 agricultural groups this week sent a letter to U.S. House leaders backing a farm labor bill before its first Judiciary Committee consideration, but a Washington state farm labor association has sharpened its opposition to the legislation. Screw labor says Zoe

https://www.capitalpress.com/ag_sectors/dairy/farm-labor-bill-draws-support-opposition/article_3e7d6142-0afa-11ea-b0e7-97006af308fc.html


So the Democrats aren’t fighting this hard enough against the Republicans, and that makes them worse than the Republicans? OK.


Vote for democrats that support US workers first!

Not the coastal elites that promote more and more immigration of cheap workers for billionaires


Let me show you how the world actually works. It is much cheaper and more efficient to use foreign workers than US workers. In addition to being cheaper they increasingly work harder and are smarter. So instead of complaining on DCUM get educated and compare to compete against the world.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Democrats have abandoned the middle class

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/12/09/massive-triumph-rich-illustrated-by-stunning-new-data/?utm_campaign=post_most&utm_medium=Email&utm_source=Newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1


From your link:

“The declining progressivity of the tax code is the subject of “The Triumph of Injustice,” a great new book by Zucman and fellow Berkeley economist Emmanuel Saez. It charts the slow strangulation of that progressivity at the top.

As they demonstrate, the effective tax rate (federal, state, local and other taxes) paid by top earners has steadily declined since the 1950s and 1960s, when the tax code really was quite progressive, to a point where the highest income groups pay barely more, percentage wise, than the bottom.”


Now, please do tell the class which American political party has championed lowering the effective tax rate paid by top earners? Almost to the exclusion of every other policy? HINT: It’s not the Democrats.


Democrats have abandoned their role in pushing back on republican nonsense. They continue to focus on screwing low skilled workers.

democrats only - Agricultural Worker Program Act of 2019 This bill establishes a program for alien agricultural workers to obtain temporary resident status ("blue card status") and procedures to obtain permanent resident status. An alien shall qualify for the status if he or she performed the required amount of qualified agricultural work. The Department of Homeland Security may grant blue card status to qualified individuals who pass security checks and are...

everywhere you turn, Dems still want to screw the middle class.

https://projects.propublica.org/represent/bills/116/hr641

and

More than 300 agricultural groups this week sent a letter to U.S. House leaders backing a farm labor bill before its first Judiciary Committee consideration, but a Washington state farm labor association has sharpened its opposition to the legislation. Screw labor says Zoe

https://www.capitalpress.com/ag_sectors/dairy/farm-labor-bill-draws-support-opposition/article_3e7d6142-0afa-11ea-b0e7-97006af308fc.html


So the Democrats aren’t fighting this hard enough against the Republicans, and that makes them worse than the Republicans? OK.


Vote for democrats that support US workers first!

Not the coastal elites that promote more and more immigration of cheap workers for billionaires


Let me show you how the world actually works. It is much cheaper and more efficient to use foreign workers than US workers. In addition to being cheaper they increasingly work harder and are smarter. So instead of complaining on DCUM get educated and compare to compete against the world.


as told by someone that has never had to work with TATA Consulting or Hexzaware
Anonymous
Treasury borrowing its second trillion in two years to keep the economy goosed.

https://www.axios.com/treasury-borrowing-debt-government-spending-tax-reform-a5f699d6-31a9-41b1-861a-02329a744797.html

The party of fiscal responsibility.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Treasury borrowing its second trillion in two years to keep the economy goosed.

https://www.axios.com/treasury-borrowing-debt-government-spending-tax-reform-a5f699d6-31a9-41b1-861a-02329a744797.html

The party of fiscal responsibility.


Democrats introduce bills to import millions of H2A workers to replace US low skilled labor.

https://www.thefencepost.com/news/house-members-introduce-farm-worker-immigration-bill/

The party of the working class.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Treasury borrowing its second trillion in two years to keep the economy goosed.

https://www.axios.com/treasury-borrowing-debt-government-spending-tax-reform-a5f699d6-31a9-41b1-861a-02329a744797.html

The party of fiscal responsibility.


Democrats introduce bills to import millions of H2A workers to replace US low skilled labor.

https://www.thefencepost.com/news/house-members-introduce-farm-worker-immigration-bill/

The party of the working class.


So. Much. Lying.

First, of course not millions of people.

Second. Did you read your article. The part about the Apple orchards leaving $100,000 to $200,000 on the trees because no one will pick the fruit. Americans are not being replaced.

In historically low unemployment, Americans who want a job have one. If seasonal jobs with low pay and harsh physical conditions can’t recruit workers, what do you suggest they do?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Treasury borrowing its second trillion in two years to keep the economy goosed.

https://www.axios.com/treasury-borrowing-debt-government-spending-tax-reform-a5f699d6-31a9-41b1-861a-02329a744797.html

The party of fiscal responsibility.


Democrats introduce bills to import millions of H2A workers to replace US low skilled labor.

https://www.thefencepost.com/news/house-members-introduce-farm-worker-immigration-bill/

The party of the working class.


So. Much. Lying.

First, of course not millions of people.

Second. Did you read your article. The part about the Apple orchards leaving $100,000 to $200,000 on the trees because no one will pick the fruit. Americans are not being replaced.

In historically low unemployment, Americans who want a job have one. If seasonal jobs with low pay and harsh physical conditions can’t recruit workers, what do you suggest they do?


What they mean is they can not find cheap disposable workers.

Only naive believe this

"[To attract] workers, the employer may have to increase his wage offer. ... So when you hear an employer saying he needs immigrants to fill a "labor shortage'', remember what you are hearing: a cry for a labor subsidy to allow the employer to avoid the normal functioning of the labor market."

-1990 Congressional Testimony of Dr. Michael S. Teitelbaum
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Treasury borrowing its second trillion in two years to keep the economy goosed.

https://www.axios.com/treasury-borrowing-debt-government-spending-tax-reform-a5f699d6-31a9-41b1-861a-02329a744797.html

The party of fiscal responsibility.


Democrats introduce bills to import millions of H2A workers to replace US low skilled labor.

https://www.thefencepost.com/news/house-members-introduce-farm-worker-immigration-bill/

The party of the working class.


So. Much. Lying.

First, of course not millions of people.

Second. Did you read your article. The part about the Apple orchards leaving $100,000 to $200,000 on the trees because no one will pick the fruit. Americans are not being replaced.

In historically low unemployment, Americans who want a job have one. If seasonal jobs with low pay and harsh physical conditions can’t recruit workers, what do you suggest they do?


What they mean is they can not find cheap disposable workers.

Only naive believe this

"[To attract] workers, the employer may have to increase his wage offer. ... So when you hear an employer saying he needs immigrants to fill a "labor shortage'', remember what you are hearing: a cry for a labor subsidy to allow the employer to avoid the normal functioning of the labor market."

-1990 Congressional Testimony of Dr. Michael S. Teitelbaum


These are seasonal jobs in remote areas, not plum jobs in urban centers. People aren't going to relocate for 6 weeks of work under the conditions of these jobs, hence the need for foreign help. This isn't hard. It has been the norm since "the Okies" migrated to California in the 1930's.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Treasury borrowing its second trillion in two years to keep the economy goosed.

https://www.axios.com/treasury-borrowing-debt-government-spending-tax-reform-a5f699d6-31a9-41b1-861a-02329a744797.html

The party of fiscal responsibility.


Democrats introduce bills to import millions of H2A workers to replace US low skilled labor.

https://www.thefencepost.com/news/house-members-introduce-farm-worker-immigration-bill/

The party of the working class.


So. Much. Lying.

First, of course not millions of people.

Second. Did you read your article. The part about the Apple orchards leaving $100,000 to $200,000 on the trees because no one will pick the fruit. Americans are not being replaced.

In historically low unemployment, Americans who want a job have one. If seasonal jobs with low pay and harsh physical conditions can’t recruit workers, what do you suggest they do?


What they mean is they can not find cheap disposable workers.

Only naive believe this

"[To attract] workers, the employer may have to increase his wage offer. ... So when you hear an employer saying he needs immigrants to fill a "labor shortage'', remember what you are hearing: a cry for a labor subsidy to allow the employer to avoid the normal functioning of the labor market."

-1990 Congressional Testimony of Dr. Michael S. Teitelbaum


These are seasonal jobs in remote areas, not plum jobs in urban centers. People aren't going to relocate for 6 weeks of work under the conditions of these jobs, hence the need for foreign help. This isn't hard. It has been the norm since "the Okies" migrated to California in the 1930's.


Not normal.

Wages would rise to attract workers. Or businesses would shutdown. Either way workers would get paid a fair wage.

But to elites fair wages don’t apply to low skilled labor Corporations deserves cheap disposable workers. More profits


Now if the Dems really want to help people they would import divorce lawyers and estate lawyers and lower those wages.
The HL-B visa for cheap disposable lawyers

Anonymous
Disneyland workers suing for a “living wage.” Some of them resorting to living in their cars because of low wages.

http://www.ocregister.com/disneyland-resort-workers-sue-alleging-the-company-has-ignored-a-2018-living-wage-ballot-measure
Anonymous
Democrats are besides themselves because the economy is firing on all cylinders.

And they know that when it comes to the presidential election, what matters is the economy. All the impeachment b-s will not gain traction given how well the economy is doing. Everyone, except the most partisan Democrats, acknowledge that the economy is doing incredibly well. Americans don't want some harebrained schemes by Democrats that will jeopardize the economic recovery.

The fabulous economy is because of lowered tax rates and deregulation ........ and Democrats want to increase taxes and offer more regulations. Is there a limit to the insanity of the Democrats? If I did not know better, I would think that they actually want Trump to win again.

Kudos to Trump and his economic team!
Anonymous
Democrats are besides themselves because the economy is firing on all cylinders.

And they know that when it comes to the presidential election, what matters is the economy. All the impeachment b-s will not gain traction given how well the economy is doing. Everyone, except the most partisan Democrats, acknowledge that the economy is doing incredibly well. Americans don't want some harebrained schemes by Democrats that will jeopardize the economic recovery.

The fabulous economy is because of lowered tax rates and deregulation ........ and Democrats want to increase taxes and offer more regulations. Is there a limit to the insanity of the Democrats? If I did not know better, I would think that they actually want Trump to win again.

Kudos to Trump and his economic team!


Somehow I thought Rs didn't like deficit spending. But, hey, live for today because increased taxes are coming no matter who gets elected. It's not insanity. It's what will be needed with an aging population and aging infrastructure.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Democrats are besides themselves because the economy is firing on all cylinders.

And they know that when it comes to the presidential election, what matters is the economy. All the impeachment b-s will not gain traction given how well the economy is doing. Everyone, except the most partisan Democrats, acknowledge that the economy is doing incredibly well. Americans don't want some harebrained schemes by Democrats that will jeopardize the economic recovery.

The fabulous economy is because of lowered tax rates and deregulation ........ and Democrats want to increase taxes and offer more regulations. Is there a limit to the insanity of the Democrats? If I did not know better, I would think that they actually want Trump to win again.

Kudos to Trump and his economic team!


That’s your answer to low wage workers living in cats because they can’t afford rent?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Democrats are besides themselves because the economy is firing on all cylinders.

And they know that when it comes to the presidential election, what matters is the economy. All the impeachment b-s will not gain traction given how well the economy is doing. Everyone, except the most partisan Democrats, acknowledge that the economy is doing incredibly well. Americans don't want some harebrained schemes by Democrats that will jeopardize the economic recovery.

The fabulous economy is because of lowered tax rates and deregulation ........ and Democrats want to increase taxes and offer more regulations. Is there a limit to the insanity of the Democrats? If I did not know better, I would think that they actually want Trump to win again.

Kudos to Trump and his economic team!


Somehow I thought Rs didn't like deficit spending. But, hey, live for today because increased taxes are coming no matter who gets elected. It's not insanity. It's what will be needed with an aging population and aging infrastructure.


*cars not cats

Though some of them are probably eating cat food since that’s not unusual for the very poor.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Democrats are besides themselves because the economy is firing on all cylinders.

And they know that when it comes to the presidential election, what matters is the economy. All the impeachment b-s will not gain traction given how well the economy is doing. Everyone, except the most partisan Democrats, acknowledge that the economy is doing incredibly well. Americans don't want some harebrained schemes by Democrats that will jeopardize the economic recovery.

The fabulous economy is because of lowered tax rates and deregulation ........ and Democrats want to increase taxes and offer more regulations. Is there a limit to the insanity of the Democrats? If I did not know better, I would think that they actually want Trump to win again.

Kudos to Trump and his economic team!


Somehow I thought Rs didn't like deficit spending. But, hey, live for today because increased taxes are coming no matter who gets elected. It's not insanity. It's what will be needed with an aging population and aging infrastructure.


First, I am not a Republican - more of an independent who leans liberal on social issues. I have historically voted Democrat more often than Republican. I did not vote for Trump but I don't have this mindset that any and all things that Trump does is wrong/bad/evil.

Federal tax revenues have gone up in each of the years that Trump has been in office despite the tax cuts - some may argue that it is because of the tax cuts. The problem is spending that has raged out of control and that is because of both parties and their spending priorities - this includes defense spending and social programs.

It is a pox on both Democrats and Republicans.

https://www.thebalance.com/current-u-s-federal-government-tax-revenue-3305762
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