Please explain the "rules" of dogs/walking/peeing and neighbors' property

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What do you people not understand about not going on other peoples property?

lighten up - who cares if a dog pees a little on your lawn. How is this any different than deer, fox, squirrels, etc running around your property.

Get a life and stop being a curmudgeon. You keep being salty and maybe I'll pee on your lawn!

Except that's not how dogs work and they will keep marking the same spot and make visible patches on the lawn. It's incredibly rude. Post your address and I'll bring my dog to go on your yard.

[Anonymous]

My family and I waited years to get a dog. We wanted to be sure our youngest child would be gentle first. We had him a total of 6 weeks before having to hand him over to a rescue b/c one of our children had severe allergies to him (couldn’t breathe/developed pneumonia/confirmed by drs). On our very last goodbye walk, heartbroken & fighting tears, he suddenly started trying to poop. Bless the guy, he pooped 4x a day- did not matter that we made sure he had done his business before we set out. I quickly steered him to the little strip of grass b/w the sidewalk and the road. From down the street, a woman ran towards me screaming, “no! no! Get your dog off my yard! Don’t you dare let him poop in my yard!” At this point, there was nothing I could do but let him finish. We immediately cleaned it up and apologized, but she continued to yell at me and dance around, saying she hated him & that it would never happen again. It was embarrassing. An hour later, I would hug his little face and tell him goodbye. That woman ruined what was supposed to have been our last moment together. I’m still so mad to this day snd don’t think I could have done anything differently. What a hateful person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not buying that hoards of wild animals pee and poop (no sign of it) and that makes it ok for your dog to leave a pile or a puddle of urine on my yard. But it’s your special dog friend. I get that. Stay off my yard. You know it’s rude.

The more I think about it, the more I'm starting to wonder about that. You know how some people just have absolutely no class, no self awareness, and can't understand something despite how obvious it may be to others? I think it's like that.

+1. I can’t believe we’re even having this discussion. By this measure, it must be ok for people to pee in other people’s yards. I mean, bunnies do!

Not to mention the fact that it would take 1,000 bunnies to equal the pee output of one 100 pound lab. (Source: I had a pet bunny as a child).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The arrogance of dog and cat owners never ceases to amaze me. They all think it's their RIGHT to have that animal, no matter what it costs the neighborhood in terms of their peace and quiet, lack of privacy, effect on their lawn and gardens, spreading of bacteria and disease, etc. It's really disgusting.

The answer, OP, is that the legal rules usually say the dog/cat is technically allowed to pee anywhere it wants where it is legally allowed to go, and it's also allowed to poop as long as the owner "cleans it up" (whatever they interpret that to mean). Of course, an animal is not allowed to go onto private property - and your front lawn is your private property, although the strip between the sidewalk and the road may not be considered private property for this purpose. Usually it is your property but technically an easement for walking and utility maintenance access so a bit of a gray area.

The moral rules for anyone with any level of decency say that everyone needs to keep all of their animals off others' property plus any property that others are responsible to maintain, period. For example, the HOA at our last property certainly considered the strip out the front to be our property, in the sense that if it looked bad, wasn't kept up to the same standard as the other parts of the community then we'd get a citation.

But most dog owners and cat owners don't care much about the law and they couldn't care less about what's morally decent. They only care about themselves, but hide behind the argument of what the right/best way to treat the animal is. They think that any cat they choose to own means the cat can roam where it wants, despite the fact that neighbors might not want it on their property, and that dogs can go on people's yards that are not physically fenced off. It seems to never occur to them that if they actually cared about what's best for the animals, they simply wouldn't get a pet if they don't have a decent sized yard themselves where they can keep it safe and happy and not trample on their neighbors' rights.

It's the age of entitlement, after all.

Curious. I doubt this sanctimonious idiot can point to any ordinance in any city in the US prohibiting cats from roaming free including on the private property of others, but whatever carry on with your ill informed tirade…

[Anonymous]

It seems that there are many inconsiderate people with dogs. I guess if your dog has the right to pee on my yard, then I also have the right to go and pee on your yard.

[Anonymous]

We live in a neighborhood with a ton of tons so my first thought is know your neighborhood before you move in. We always try to get our dog to do his business before a walk but that only seems to work with number one. With number two I always steer dog to as close to street as possible and clean up and this is what everyone does. The thing that I do not do but I see some people do is drop the poop bag in someone's trash. That is out of bounds and rude. This I could imagine someone being annoyed with. Ditto unleashed dogs--every now and again I will read on our listserve about someone's dog getting attacked by an unleashed dog and usually the owner of the unleashed one was so surprised because Fido is so sweet. A friendly dog can be reactive and it sometimes comes out of the blow hence use your leash.

[Anonymous]

ton of animals..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:1. Most dogs will pee and or poop on walks. The activity stimulates their system. So, people need to expect that the dogs will need to eliminate somewhere.

2. In our neighborhood, we (and most people, it seems) try to keep the dog in the hell strip (the section between the sidewalk and road). If one of those is present, the dog really needs to be guided away from the house side of the yard. If you planted liriope or something else to keep people/animals out of the hell strip, you are more likely to end up with pee on your yard. When the dog has to go, it has to go.

3. The trouble we have is with the number of streets without a sidewalk. Many dogs won't eliminate in the street and want something earthy so they can do their business. When I see the telltale signs, I try to hold her off until we are back in a public grassy space or sidewalk area. However, that's not always possible and could be cruel. Do you really want a stream of dog pee on the street?

Our neighborhood has a ton of dogs, and no sidewalks. All the neighborhood dogs eliminate in yards along their walks, and people are generally very good about cleaning up after them, and not letting them explore yards, and avoiding the few yards with no pooping signs out. We have a rock wall on the side of our front yard, and dogs simply can't resist peeing or marking when they walk by. I'd much rather this than have to dodge pee stains all over the road. And I'm very thankful to live here that near some of the nudges on this thread.

[Anonymous]

First 2 feet of your lawn is fair game. Poop, pee

If the owner has to stand on your lawn or driveway, they came in too far and broke the unwritten rule.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What do you people not understand about not going on other peoples property?

lighten up - who cares if a dog pees a little on your lawn. How is this any different than deer, fox, squirrels, etc running around your property.

Get a life and stop being a curmudgeon. You keep being salty and maybe I'll pee on your lawn!

Except that's not how dogs work and they will keep marking the same spot and make visible patches on the lawn. It's incredibly rude. Post your address and I'll bring my dog to go on your yard.

I must have 10 or more dogs per on the edge of my lawn every day and there are no yellow patches. Where do you expect them to pee? Concrete or asphalt? So you can step in it. You are the one who ruined their natural space with you house and driveway.

[Anonymous]

Dog pee doesn’t cause yellow spots on lawn.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What do you people not understand about not going on other peoples property?

lighten up - who cares if a dog pees a little on your lawn. How is this any different than deer, fox, squirrels, etc running around your property.

Get a life and stop being a curmudgeon. You keep being salty and maybe I'll pee on your lawn!

Except that's not how dogs work and they will keep marking the same spot and make visible patches on the lawn. It's incredibly rude. Post your address and I'll bring my dog to go on your yard.

They do not. Stop. I have big dogs and this is not a thing. My grass is not brown.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:First 2 feet of your lawn is fair game. Poop, pee

If the owner has to stand on your lawn or driveway, they came in too far and broke the unwritten rule.

This. X100

[Anonymous]

The same people who oppose sidewalks in our neighborhood, also complain about dogs peeing on their lawns.

If there is no public green space along public roads, what are dog owners supposed to do?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:First 2 feet of your lawn is fair game. Poop, pee

If the owner has to stand on your lawn or driveway, they came in too far and broke the unwritten rule.

Err....,no it's not fair game. Your dog has no business being anywhere on my lawn.