Wootton or Churchill or RM

[Anonymous]

RM will become another Wheaton HS with all those high rises. It will attract a demography putting less emphasis on education.

Rockville leaders already don't put any emphasis on education. They voted to allow more building in Rockville despite schools at 120%.

OP is far better off with other two options. Churchill is a safer option because it's outside city limits.

[Anonymous]

OP ,

Even Mayor voted for building more apartments in RM cluster despite schools being at 120%.

She made a U turn regarding overcrowding. She voted to oppose the increase from 110% to 120% few years ago. But now she thinks it's perfectly all right to keep building more even after 120%.

Just avoid RM cluster. It's not for families who value education. With 3 kids, we made a poor choice and it will be hard to move out, but you don't need to make the same mistake.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP ,

Even Mayor voted for building more apartments in RM cluster despite schools being at 120%.

She made a U turn regarding overcrowding. She voted to oppose the increase from 110% to 120% few years ago. But now she thinks it's perfectly all right to keep building more even after 120%.

Just avoid RM cluster. It's not for families who value education. With 3 kids, we made a poor choice and it will be hard to move out, but you don't need to make the same mistake.

1. they are not all coming at once.
2. The wegman development mostly impacts WJ cluster, not RM
3. it will take few years
4. .. at which point, MCPS may well rezone this entire area

They sky isn't falling quite yet. Take a breath.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP ,

Even Mayor voted for building more apartments in RM cluster despite schools being at 120%.

She made a U turn regarding overcrowding. She voted to oppose the increase from 110% to 120% few years ago. But now she thinks it's perfectly all right to keep building more even after 120%.

Just avoid RM cluster. It's not for families who value education. With 3 kids, we made a poor choice and it will be hard to move out, but you don't need to make the same mistake.

Which schools in the Richard Montgomery cluster are currently at 120%?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP ,

Even Mayor voted for building more apartments in RM cluster despite schools being at 120%.

She made a U turn regarding overcrowding. She voted to oppose the increase from 110% to 120% few years ago. But now she thinks it's perfectly all right to keep building more even after 120%.

Just avoid RM cluster. It's not for families who value education. With 3 kids, we made a poor choice and it will be hard to move out, but you don't need to make the same mistake.

Which schools in the Richard Montgomery cluster are currently at 120%?

The RM cluster lobbied for years to get a new elementary school to alleviate overcrowding. Until this current school year, 3 of the 4 cluster ES were at 130%+
According to statistics from last year's boundary study, without the new school being built, this year's projected enrollment at Beall would have been 133%, College Gardens 129%, and Ritchie Park 141%. Twinbrook was lowest at just over 100% Overcrowding at these schools has been problem for a long time and was finally JUST alleviated this year. Why re-create the problem all over again?? RM is overcrowded with MCPS projections showing it as increasingly overcrowded in the next 5 years. There is already an issue with portables and science classrooms - why make it even worse for current and future students?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP ,

Even Mayor voted for building more apartments in RM cluster despite schools being at 120%.

She made a U turn regarding overcrowding. She voted to oppose the increase from 110% to 120% few years ago. But now she thinks it's perfectly all right to keep building more even after 120%.

Just avoid RM cluster. It's not for families who value education. With 3 kids, we made a poor choice and it will be hard to move out, but you don't need to make the same mistake.

Which schools in the Richard Montgomery cluster are currently at 120%?

The RM cluster lobbied for years to get a new elementary school to alleviate overcrowding. Until this current school year, 3 of the 4 cluster ES were at 130%+
According to statistics from last year's boundary study, without the new school being built, this year's projected enrollment at Beall would have been 133%, College Gardens 129%, and Ritchie Park 141%. Twinbrook was lowest at just over 100% Overcrowding at these schools has been problem for a long time and was finally JUST alleviated this year. Why re-create the problem all over again?? RM is overcrowded with MCPS projections showing it as increasingly overcrowded in the next 5 years. There is already an issue with portables and science classrooms - why make it even worse for current and future students?

In other words, none of them.

[Anonymous]

Aren't these basically the same school already?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP ,

Even Mayor voted for building more apartments in RM cluster despite schools being at 120%.

She made a U turn regarding overcrowding. She voted to oppose the increase from 110% to 120% few years ago. But now she thinks it's perfectly all right to keep building more even after 120%.

Just avoid RM cluster. It's not for families who value education. With 3 kids, we made a poor choice and it will be hard to move out, but you don't need to make the same mistake.

Which schools in the Richard Montgomery cluster are currently at 120%?

MCPS says RM will be at 120% within 5 years.

CIP 2005 underprojected numbers by 150 students

CIP 2010 underprojected numbers by 150 students.

CIP 2015 underprojected numbers by 150 students.

It's safe to say that RM is liekly to be at 130% within 5 years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP ,

Even Mayor voted for building more apartments in RM cluster despite schools being at 120%.

She made a U turn regarding overcrowding. She voted to oppose the increase from 110% to 120% few years ago. But now she thinks it's perfectly all right to keep building more even after 120%.

Just avoid RM cluster. It's not for families who value education. With 3 kids, we made a poor choice and it will be hard to move out, but you don't need to make the same mistake.

1. they are not all coming at once.
2. The wegman development mostly impacts WJ cluster, not RM
3. it will take few years
4. .. at which point, MCPS may well rezone this entire area

They sky isn't falling quite yet. Take a breath.

There is no rezoning scheduled in few years. Stop spreading misinformation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP ,

Even Mayor voted for building more apartments in RM cluster despite schools being at 120%.

She made a U turn regarding overcrowding. She voted to oppose the increase from 110% to 120% few years ago. But now she thinks it's perfectly all right to keep building more even after 120%.

Just avoid RM cluster. It's not for families who value education. With 3 kids, we made a poor choice and it will be hard to move out, but you don't need to make the same mistake.

1. they are not all coming at once.
2. The wegman development mostly impacts WJ cluster, not RM
3. it will take few years
4. .. at which point, MCPS may well rezone this entire area

They sky isn't falling quite yet. Take a breath.

There is no rezoning scheduled in few years. Stop spreading misinformation.

Crown HS will be built in a few years. The entire area will be rezoned.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Which schools in the Richard Montgomery cluster are currently at 120%?

APFO was there to stop building if schools are at 120% within 5 years.

Virginia D. Onley & Mark Pierzchala have made it very clear that they don't care about over crowding at all. One of them even said that 150% is perfectly fine giving example of her daughter.

Mayor had made a U turn on overcrowding.

End result, APFO means nothing. Developers are always going to win.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

MCPS says RM will be at 120% within 5 years.

CIP 2005 underprojected numbers by 150 students

CIP 2010 underprojected numbers by 150 students.

CIP 2015 underprojected numbers by 150 students.

It's safe to say that RM is liekly to be at 130% within 5 years.

2017-2018 enrollment was 2,428 (109%), with projected enrollment in 2023-24 of 2,668 (119%). Add another 150 and you get 2,818 (126%). 130% is 2,907.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP ,

Even Mayor voted for building more apartments in RM cluster despite schools being at 120%.

She made a U turn regarding overcrowding. She voted to oppose the increase from 110% to 120% few years ago. But now she thinks it's perfectly all right to keep building more even after 120%.

Just avoid RM cluster. It's not for families who value education. With 3 kids, we made a poor choice and it will be hard to move out, but you don't need to make the same mistake.

1. they are not all coming at once.
2. The wegman development mostly impacts WJ cluster, not RM
3. it will take few years
4. .. at which point, MCPS may well rezone this entire area

They sky isn't falling quite yet. Take a breath.

There is no rezoning scheduled in few years. Stop spreading misinformation.

Crown HS will be built in a few years. The entire area will be rezoned.

I guess city leaders are as irrational as you. MCPS takes minimum of 8 years to build a HS after it's funded. It's not even funded.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

MCPS says RM will be at 120% within 5 years.

CIP 2005 underprojected numbers by 150 students

CIP 2010 underprojected numbers by 150 students.

CIP 2015 underprojected numbers by 150 students.

It's safe to say that RM is liekly to be at 130% within 5 years.

2017-2018 enrollment was 2,428 (109%), with projected enrollment in 2023-24 of 2,668 (119%). Add another 150 and you get 2,818 (126%). 130% is 2,907.

Bingo, I am so relieved to find out that we will be only at 126%, lol.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP ,

Even Mayor voted for building more apartments in RM cluster despite schools being at 120%.

She made a U turn regarding overcrowding. She voted to oppose the increase from 110% to 120% few years ago. But now she thinks it's perfectly all right to keep building more even after 120%.

Just avoid RM cluster. It's not for families who value education. With 3 kids, we made a poor choice and it will be hard to move out, but you don't need to make the same mistake.

1. they are not all coming at once.
2. The wegman development mostly impacts WJ cluster, not RM
3. it will take few years
4. .. at which point, MCPS may well rezone this entire area

They sky isn't falling quite yet. Take a breath.

There is no rezoning scheduled in few years. Stop spreading misinformation.

Crown HS will be built in a few years. The entire area will be rezoned.

I guess city leaders are as irrational as you. MCPS takes minimum of 8 years to build a HS after it's funded. It's not even funded.

Even before this development came to be, MCPS CIP had RMHS over 120% in 5 years, and thus they knew they were going to have to do something about the HS. They were looking at building an addition to the HS. Instead, because of Crown HS, they are holding off on the addition because RM will be rezoned once Crown HS is built, so the numbers will look different. Again, this was before this development.

http://gis.mcpsmd.org/cipmasterpdfs/CIP20_Chap4_RM.pdf

Projections indicate enrollment at Richard Montgomery High School will exceed capacity by 200 seats or more by the end of the six-year planning period. An FY 2016
appropriation was approved for facility planning to determine the feasibility, scope, and cost for a classroom addition. In lieu of the addition, the approved CIP includes expenditures in
the six-year period to open a new high school on the Crown Farm site to address overutilization in the mid-county region.

Again.. even before this development, if Crown HS would not be built before the five year lookout, MCPS would have to address RM over utilization. Now.. *if* RM cluster goes above 120% before the 5 year period, then MCPS will have to address the over utilization earlier. Yes... the cluster may be a bit over 120% for one or two years before Crown HS is built.

As I stated, I am not happy about the development, and I have sent emails to the city about it, but I'm also not panicking thinking the sky is falling.