Takoma, Easter Magnets. MCPS Pilots Universal Evaluation Process.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
True but it does give a sense of how many children have the basic skill set.
It is too bad MCPS is not providing Magnet test results this year for the first time. That would be more helpful

MCPS has never provided magnet test results, as far as I know, aside from median score of admitted students.

Did they do so this year? This information seemed to be easily available in the past for students who were accepted as well as students who were not. You could request your child’s test scores

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
True but it does give a sense of how many children have the basic skill set.
It is too bad MCPS is not providing Magnet test results this year for the first time. That would be more helpful

MCPS has never provided magnet test results, as far as I know, aside from median score of admitted students.

Did they do so this year? This information seemed to be easily available in the past for students who were accepted as well as students who were not. You could request your child’s test scores

PARC is not used for magnet admissions since it's a test for minimal competency, not giftedness where scores are either pass or fail. There is no median.

Magnet admission consists of a range of criteria for which the CogAT is one of several factors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
True but it does give a sense of how many children have the basic skill set.
It is too bad MCPS is not providing Magnet test results this year for the first time. That would be more helpful

MCPS has never provided magnet test results, as far as I know, aside from median score of admitted students.

Did they do so this year? This information seemed to be easily available in the past for students who were accepted as well as students who were not. You could request your child’s test scores

PARC is not used for magnet admissions since it's a test for minimal competency, not giftedness where scores are either pass or fail. There is no median.

Magnet admission consists of a range of criteria for which the CogAT is one of several factors.

Your last sentence applies to the old admission process too
Was MCPS as transparent about the COGAT scores this year as it used to be in years past?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
True but it does give a sense of how many children have the basic skill set.
It is too bad MCPS is not providing Magnet test results this year for the first time. That would be more helpful

MCPS has never provided magnet test results, as far as I know, aside from median score of admitted students.

Did they do so this year? This information seemed to be easily available in the past for students who were accepted as well as students who were not. You could request your child’s test scores

PARC is not used for magnet admissions since it's a test for minimal competency, not giftedness where scores are either pass or fail. There is no median.

Magnet admission consists of a range of criteria for which the CogAT is one of several factors.

This is completely inaccurate. The program FAQ right here says that PARCC scores are part of the admissions criteria. https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/curriculum/specialprograms/middle/Frequently%20Asked%20Questions%20Eastern%20and%20Takoma%20Park%20Magnet%20ProgramsFINAL(1).pdf

Furthermore, the PARCC is neither a test of minimal competency nor a pass-fail test, as others have indicated. It includes a numerical score that then translates into a score of 1-5: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/schools/msmagnet/about/PARCC%20Scale%20Scores%20and%20Performance%20Levels%20handout-1,2.pdf

[Anonymous]

Those links didn’t post correctly.

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/curriculum/specialprograms/middle/Frequently%20Asked%20Questions%20Eastern%20and%20Takoma%20Park%20Magnet%20ProgramsFINAL(1).pdf

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/schools/msmagnet/about/PARCC%20Scale%20Scores%20and%20Performance%20Levels%20handout-1,2.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
PARC is not used for magnet admissions since it's a test for minimal competency, not giftedness where scores are either pass or fail. There is no median.

Magnet admission consists of a range of criteria for which the CogAT is one of several factors.

Yes, PARCC is a minimal test of competency required by the state and has absolutely no bearing on giftedness or magnet admissions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is so pathetic about this is that while MCPS may have intended to reduce the Asian students in favor of other minority students, the end result after admit acceptances seems to be replacing higher performing Asian students with lower performing white DCC students. White privilege is alive and well and the white DCC mommies on this thread are busy protecting it! They could care less about Latino or AA students and are constantly, desperately seeking more URM whites to "save" their neighborhood schools, want to bus the poor kids out of their schools , and push for schools within schools so their kids don't mix with the other lower performing population. Biggest bunch os hypocrites on the planet.

The whole thing is a big cluster. No one is happy except the DCC white mommies who think they benefited somehow. Actual URM students were not helped in any way. MCPS is yet again in legal hot water this time for racial selection thinly disguised as geographic discrimination. Principals and teachers got screwed when the central office tried to dig themselves out at the last minute by creating faux enriched classes that didn't exist.

Please come back and enlighten us with the source of your..."data"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is so pathetic about this is that while MCPS may have intended to reduce the Asian students in favor of other minority students, the end result after admit acceptances seems to be replacing higher performing Asian students with lower performing white DCC students. White privilege is alive and well and the white DCC mommies on this thread are busy protecting it! They could care less about Latino or AA students and are constantly, desperately seeking more URM whites to "save" their neighborhood schools, want to bus the poor kids out of their schools , and push for schools within schools so their kids don't mix with the other lower performing population. Biggest bunch os hypocrites on the planet.

The whole thing is a big cluster. No one is happy except the DCC white mommies who think they benefited somehow. Actual URM students were not helped in any way. MCPS is yet again in legal hot water this time for racial selection thinly disguised as geographic discrimination. Principals and teachers got screwed when the central office tried to dig themselves out at the last minute by creating faux enriched classes that didn't exist.

Please come back and enlighten us with the source of your..."data"

I know it's true because Alex Jones told me so!

[Anonymous]

I just found the Magnet test scores for students organized by sending middle school. Kudos to MCPS for releasing this information. It would be helpful to know the median score of all accepted students Still I appreciate the effort at transparency

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/schools/msmagnet/about/MS%20Magnet%20Field%20Test%20Data%20by%20Sending%20MS.pdf

There are additional data reports on the middle school application results here

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/schools/msmagnet/about/field-test.aspx

One data point that jumped out at me was that only 28 of the 132 students (21%) accepted to Eastern and only 25 of the 139 students (18%) accepted to takoma came from a CES

[Anonymous]

^actually the first file does not seem to have raw scores. Maybe it is telling us how many students were in the top cohort?? Perhaps someone else can figure out what MCPS has shared. There is one report with historical data on the last few years of median test scores for accepted students but they don’t appear to disclose this data for this year

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/schools/msmagnet/about/6-%20Year%20Summary%20Data%20of%20Invited%20Students%20to%20Takoma%20Park-%20Eastern%20MS%20with%20Median%20Test%20Scores.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
True but it does give a sense of how many children have the basic skill set.
It is too bad MCPS is not providing Magnet test results this year for the first time. That would be more helpful

MCPS has never provided magnet test results, as far as I know, aside from median score of admitted students.

Did they do so this year? This information seemed to be easily available in the past for students who were accepted as well as students who were not. You could request your child’s test scores

PARC is not used for magnet admissions since it's a test for minimal competency, not giftedness where scores are either pass or fail. There is no median.

Magnet admission consists of a range of criteria for which the CogAT is one of several factors.

Although both are passing scores, there's a difference between PARCC score of 4 and PARCC score of 5.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
True but it does give a sense of how many children have the basic skill set.
It is too bad MCPS is not providing Magnet test results this year for the first time. That would be more helpful

MCPS has never provided magnet test results, as far as I know, aside from median score of admitted students.

Did they do so this year? This information seemed to be easily available in the past for students who were accepted as well as students who were not. You could request your child’s test scores

PARC is not used for magnet admissions since it's a test for minimal competency, not giftedness where scores are either pass or fail. There is no median.

Magnet admission consists of a range of criteria for which the CogAT is one of several factors.

Although both are passing scores, there's a difference between PARCC score of 4 and PARCC score of 5.

4 means the student met the states minimal expectations and 5 men’s they exceeded it. Neither equates to giftedness. PARCC is not used as a criteria for magnet admissions for good reason. Your argument has no merit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is so pathetic about this is that while MCPS may have intended to reduce the Asian students in favor of other minority students, the end result after admit acceptances seems to be replacing higher performing Asian students with lower performing white DCC students. White privilege is alive and well and the white DCC mommies on this thread are busy protecting it! They could care less about Latino or AA students and are constantly, desperately seeking more URM whites to "save" their neighborhood schools, want to bus the poor kids out of their schools , and push for schools within schools so their kids don't mix with the other lower performing population. Biggest bunch os hypocrites on the planet.

The whole thing is a big cluster. No one is happy except the DCC white mommies who think they benefited somehow. Actual URM students were not helped in any way. MCPS is yet again in legal hot water this time for racial selection thinly disguised as geographic discrimination. Principals and teachers got screwed when the central office tried to dig themselves out at the last minute by creating faux enriched classes that didn't exist.

Please come back and enlighten us with the source of your..."data"

I know it's true because Alex Jones told me so!

lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^actually the first file does not seem to have raw scores. Maybe it is telling us how many students were in the top cohort?? Perhaps someone else can figure out what MCPS has shared. There is one report with historical data on the last few years of median test scores for accepted students but they don’t appear to disclose this data for this year

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/schools/msmagnet/about/6-%20Year%20Summary%20Data%20of%20Invited%20Students%20to%20Takoma%20Park-%20Eastern%20MS%20with%20Median%20Test%20Scores.pdf

The data tells us how many students from each home middle school group where in the pool to be considered for the magnet by each criteria, MAP scores, CogNat, etc. You can see that some kids may have scored high in one area, e.g., PARCC but not MAP-M, by looking at the statistically significant difference in the number of kids in each pool. We don't know the cutoff scores to get in each pool nor do we know how much weight each criterion was given in their final decision.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^actually the first file does not seem to have raw scores. Maybe it is telling us how many students were in the top cohort?? Perhaps someone else can figure out what MCPS has shared. There is one report with historical data on the last few years of median test scores for accepted students but they don’t appear to disclose this data for this year

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/schools/msmagnet/about/6-%20Year%20Summary%20Data%20of%20Invited%20Students%20to%20Takoma%20Park-%20Eastern%20MS%20with%20Median%20Test%20Scores.pdf

The data tells us how many students from each home middle school group where in the pool to be considered for the magnet by each criteria, MAP scores, CogNat, etc. You can see that some kids may have scored high in one area, e.g., PARCC but not MAP-M, by looking at the statistically significant difference in the number of kids in each pool. We don't know the cutoff scores to get in each pool nor do we know how much weight each criterion was given in their final decision.

Thanks. Hopefully they will release median scores for accepted students as they have in previous years