So are you willing to give up quality of education for diversity?

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Anonymous wrote:

Then I guess you will send your kid to a SES and racially diverse college right. Are you really this stupid and moronic.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/campus-ethnic-diversity

Coming in late to the discussion and I'm not sure I want to read all this weirdness. I don't understand. What is so terrible about diverse colleges? I went to one of these diverse colleges! I thought it was great. But then again, I am an ethnic minority from an economically challenged family who got a scholarship. Maybe you would be terrified send your kid to study among my kind?

No one is concerned with diverse colleges because your child is not forced into close quarters with other kids with major behavioral/violent behaviors like in high school. I went to a terrible magnet high school and would never subject my children to that. However, I would have no issue with my children attending community college or directional state university.

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Diverse in no way means dangerous or violent. Nice try PP!

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Holy cow Batman! Majority black high schools with GS9 plus ratings.

[Anonymous]

Look in DC blacks and hispanics are dumber on average

you happy

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ps diversity is a crock

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Diverse in no way means dangerous or violent. Nice try PP!

Again, the thread is about sacrificing education for diversity. We are not talking about the private schools with diplomat children.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Diverse in no way means dangerous or violent. Nice try PP!

Go to a public school in most areas of Detroit and you will think differently.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Then I guess you will send your kid to a SES and racially diverse college right. Are you really this stupid and moronic.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/campus-ethnic-diversity

Coming in late to the discussion and I'm not sure I want to read all this weirdness. I don't understand. What is so terrible about diverse colleges? I went to one of these diverse colleges! I thought it was great. But then again, I am an ethnic minority from an economically challenged family who got a scholarship. Maybe you would be terrified send your kid to study among my kind?

PP, they are not worried about you. They are worried about their kid being stabbed by one of your fellow savages. Sadly, this is reality for ALL kids going to most inner city school. The stats about "your kind" and how they disproportionately commit violent crimes and drop out of school are staggering.

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Oh no you didn't!

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I am AA with biracial AA and Asian kids.
We consider such matters on a scale. We would not send our kids to any school that lacked diversity because social emotional development is important. And seeing themselves reflected in the makeup of a student body and teaching staff is important to their self esteem.
Nor would we send our kids to a low performing school purely for diversity's sake. Getting the best education possible is important to their intellectual growth and ability to reach their full potential.
We're fortunate in that we have options on this front (a diverse private as opposed to our well meaning, but struggling and diverse public).
But not everyone has that choice. I respect those that are forced to have to make these tough choices and find balance in other ways.

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My DC has is on the wait list for a private preschool that has 60% of their seats set aside for low income kids. He's been on this list since last year and they recently told me that he won't be able to get in as of this Sept. The school is both racially and economically diverse with a high number of ESL kids. I am happy to pay the expensive tuition to get my kid a spot in this school.

[Anonymous]

you have a liberal disorder

by the time your kid reaches fifth you will be out of DC unless you hit the charter lottery

you have no idea how naive you are

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Fair point but like others have said it's almost impossible to tell what the real quality of a school is

Therefore test scores, graduation rates, college acceptance and type of college kids are accepted to and discipline issues is the only thing to go on

Higher SES is directly correlated with higher rates of these factors and lower rates of serious discipline issues (suspensions expulsions dropping out etc)

Higher SES is directly correlated to certain races over others

Now some think the purpose of school isn't to go to the best college you can to those I say why are you mortgaging your kids future on some liberal crusade of diversity

No, they're not.

You keep begging the question. By which I mean, this is your reasoning:

You: The good schools are the schools with lots of kids from affluent, educated families.
Us: How do you know?
You: Because diversity is PC bunk.
Us: How do you know?
You: Because the schools with lots of kids from affluent, educated families are the good schools.

I would like to take a time out from this fraught discussion to congratulate you on the proper use of "begging the question." I realize most grammar posts are about grammar failures, but I think those of us who love the English language can all stand up and applaud seeing that rare correct application of the phrase.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:you have a liberal disorder

by the time your kid reaches fifth you will be out of DC unless you hit the charter lottery

you have no idea how naive you are

lol
I'm in McLean and a conservative. Never voted for a democrat in my life (some independents tho). I'm not the only one who sees the value in his school hence the long waiting list.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Diversity is more than just learning to live with people of other cultures, but being able to understand the background and contributions people with different cultural and educational or professional experiences bring to the table and how they can contribute to success in the workplace or wherever.

One of the things I learned out of the 2008 financial crisis is that virtually all of the people that engineered things like the credit default swaps and made the decisions that brought about the crisis were all the "best and the brightest" who went to the same colleges, etc. It produces a form of group think that can be highly dangerous.

My father - who is a military officer - made a similar point. He was an academy graduate, and he said that he valued the input that came from the ROTC officers because they came in with training and critical thinking skills that were different from those cultivated in the academy.

Also, as we move to an even more minority majority country I think it's important that we do emphasize diversity as the strength for our economy and society taht it is.

This 1,000 times.

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This really isn't an issue for most people because you are stuck with whatever school you are zoned for. I'm assuming most posters live in DC? Dumb question, I know.

I went to school in Chicago and the predominantly Black/Hispanic school I went to was rife with crime(gang members, stabbings, bringing guns to school, etc.) and disruptive students. These kids were a product of their environment, and that environment is one that nobody with money would willingly experience, regardless of race. Many of the other predominantly Black schools in the area had similar issues. And yes, most students had no parental involvement, and surprise surprise, many didn't even graduate. I learned some tough life lessons, but they weren't necessarily positive, and I definitely wouldn't want my kids to have a similar experience.

When I hear people talk about how they love all socioeconomic levels (poor people) and diversity (black people) it just seems so fake and narrow-minded. Buying a 500k house instead of a 2 mil house doesn't mean a whole hell of a lot. I guess with a little spin, you can now say that you value "diversity." I think that most people end up coming to the conclusion that your new poor/black/Hispanic neighbors are people just like you. It may be good for your kids to learn this, but why not actually have your kids experience diversity beyond YOUR definition of diversity. Send your kid to South America and I guarantee he/she will learn a ton more than playing video games with his Americanized Hispanic friends. I even learned a ton from a friends father who was a rich entrepreneur. I didn't look at the study that a PP cited above, but it sounds laughable. I guess anyone can find a study that supports their preconceived conclusion.

I'm not understanding why it should be one or the other. You learn stuff from going to school with people from backgrounds different from yours. You learn other stuff from traveling (in your own country or in other countries). If somebody said, "Well, I only ever went to school with rich kids, but I know all about poverty because I did this three-week program during summer break in high school, building a health clinic in Malawi," what would you think?

I didn't re-read my post, but you can do both. I'm also not trying to say that you are a bad person for seeking out diversity. I just see my liberal family members do this stuff all the time and it is so disingenuous. It is the cool thing to do. They are no more open minded than my conservative friends. If anything, they are so obsessed with how someone looks that I sometimes don't know what to think.

Building a health clinic in Malawi? LOL. That's a perfect example. It sounds like a trip that a bunch of snobs like Angelina Jolie would take. I'm sure they have a tribal outing by the fire pit and then you get to socialize with the natives LOLOLOL These trips are made for people who want to have a "cultural" experience that they can brag about to their friends.

People learn a lot more by having a REAL experience, one that often requires getting out of your comfort zone.