APS Families--Pls email county and school boards by Tues. 5/24!!

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Anonymous wrote:I think parents aren't urging more activity on a new high school partly because they can't believe their kid is ever going to be in high school. But also, a lot of the agitation comes from North Arlington, which managed to get its way on moving HB and creating a neighborhood school that they have to drive to. I suspect that they are expecting a similar level of accommodation when it's time for high school and they aren't thinking about the fact that APS is just plain out of land.
They are not out of land. Have you not seen the reference to the presentation by school bd where it lists VHC carlin springs?


That is not APS land. You cannot assume the county will continue to give APS everything it asks for.




I hardly think asking that Arlington students have a seat in a building, during traditional hours, is demanding.


Define "Arlington students".

Parents own $1.5 million-plus SFHs? I wholeheartedly agree.

Living in some APAH property somewhere? Getting the Arlington housing grant? If I were in charge, I'd say you better make sure your alarm clock works and you can wake yourself up at 4:00 AM. Or you better remember to bundle up when you walk home at 11:30 PM on a January night from your sophomore Algebra I class.


I live in a $700,000 SFH. When do my kids get to go to school?

If we're making up arbitrary rules, I'm going to go by how long people have lived in Arlington. Did you grow up here and graduate from APS yourself? Your kids are first in line for the choice program you want or the schools with capacity. Move here and set down roots in your 20's? You're next. Move here right before you started having kids? Third. Not until the kids were ready to start school, you looked into the lotteries, and realized you had to move out of DC? Back of the line for you. I don't care how much you paid for your shitshack in 22207. I've invested decades in this community, then you show up, contribute to the overcrowding, and tell me my kids have to suck it up because you paid more for a house? Eff that.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think parents aren't urging more activity on a new high school partly because they can't believe their kid is ever going to be in high school. But also, a lot of the agitation comes from North Arlington, which managed to get its way on moving HB and creating a neighborhood school that they have to drive to. I suspect that they are expecting a similar level of accommodation when it's time for high school and they aren't thinking about the fact that APS is just plain out of land.
They are not out of land. Have you not seen the reference to the presentation by school bd where it lists VHC carlin springs?


That is not APS land. You cannot assume the county will continue to give APS everything it asks for.




I hardly think asking that Arlington students have a seat in a building, during traditional hours, is demanding.


That's an extreme view. That because APS won't build a 4th high school, our kids have no choice but to resort to going to high school in two shifts. No one in APS is suggesting that. Board members aren't even into that. Going to high school in two shifts only became an option because people suggested it in the first place. It won't happen.



Honey bunny- have you been looking at the projected numbers? This is an extreme deficit. An entire school's worth of kids. That is if they didn't underestimate, which has been a problem for them.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think parents aren't urging more activity on a new high school partly because they can't believe their kid is ever going to be in high school. But also, a lot of the agitation comes from North Arlington, which managed to get its way on moving HB and creating a neighborhood school that they have to drive to. I suspect that they are expecting a similar level of accommodation when it's time for high school and they aren't thinking about the fact that APS is just plain out of land.
They are not out of land. Have you not seen the reference to the presentation by school bd where it lists VHC carlin springs?


That is not APS land. You cannot assume the county will continue to give APS everything it asks for.




I hardly think asking that Arlington students have a seat in a building, during traditional hours, is demanding.


Define "Arlington students".

Parents own $1.5 million-plus SFHs? I wholeheartedly agree.

Living in some APAH property somewhere? Getting the Arlington housing grant? If I were in charge, I'd say you better make sure your alarm clock works and you can wake yourself up at 4:00 AM. Or you better remember to bundle up when you walk home at 11:30 PM on a January night from your sophomore Algebra I class.


I live in a $700,000 SFH. When do my kids get to go to school?

If we're making up arbitrary rules, I'm going to go by how long people have lived in Arlington. Did you grow up here and graduate from APS yourself? Your kids are first in line for the choice program you want or the schools with capacity. Move here and set down roots in your 20's? You're next. Move here right before you started having kids? Third. Not until the kids were ready to start school, you looked into the lotteries, and realized you had to move out of DC? Back of the line for you. I don't care how much you paid for your shitshack in 22207. I've invested decades in this community, then you show up, contribute to the overcrowding, and tell me my kids have to suck it up because you paid more for a house? Eff that.




Preach sister!
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think parents aren't urging more activity on a new high school partly because they can't believe their kid is ever going to be in high school. But also, a lot of the agitation comes from North Arlington, which managed to get its way on moving HB and creating a neighborhood school that they have to drive to. I suspect that they are expecting a similar level of accommodation when it's time for high school and they aren't thinking about the fact that APS is just plain out of land.
They are not out of land. Have you not seen the reference to the presentation by school bd where it lists VHC carlin springs?


That is not APS land. You cannot assume the county will continue to give APS everything it asks for.




I hardly think asking that Arlington students have a seat in a building, during traditional hours, is demanding.


Define "Arlington students".

Parents own $1.5 million-plus SFHs? I wholeheartedly agree.

Living in some APAH property somewhere? Getting the Arlington housing grant? If I were in charge, I'd say you better make sure your alarm clock works and you can wake yourself up at 4:00 AM. Or you better remember to bundle up when you walk home at 11:30 PM on a January night from your sophomore Algebra I class.


I live in a $700,000 SFH. When do my kids get to go to school?

If we're making up arbitrary rules, I'm going to go by how long people have lived in Arlington. Did you grow up here and graduate from APS yourself? Your kids are first in line for the choice program you want or the schools with capacity. Move here and set down roots in your 20's? You're next. Move here right before you started having kids? Third. Not until the kids were ready to start school, you looked into the lotteries, and realized you had to move out of DC? Back of the line for you. I don't care how much you paid for your shitshack in 22207. I've invested decades in this community, then you show up, contribute to the overcrowding, and tell me my kids have to suck it up because you paid more for a house? Eff that.


Yes.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think parents aren't urging more activity on a new high school partly because they can't believe their kid is ever going to be in high school. But also, a lot of the agitation comes from North Arlington, which managed to get its way on moving HB and creating a neighborhood school that they have to drive to. I suspect that they are expecting a similar level of accommodation when it's time for high school and they aren't thinking about the fact that APS is just plain out of land.
They are not out of land. Have you not seen the reference to the presentation by school bd where it lists VHC carlin springs?


That is not APS land. You cannot assume the county will continue to give APS everything it asks for.




I hardly think asking that Arlington students have a seat in a building, during traditional hours, is demanding.


Define "Arlington students".

Parents own $1.5 million-plus SFHs? I wholeheartedly agree.

Living in some APAH property somewhere? Getting the Arlington housing grant? If I were in charge, I'd say you better make sure your alarm clock works and you can wake yourself up at 4:00 AM. Or you better remember to bundle up when you walk home at 11:30 PM on a January night from your sophomore Algebra I class.


I live in a $700,000 SFH. When do my kids get to go to school?

If we're making up arbitrary rules, I'm going to go by how long people have lived in Arlington. Did you grow up here and graduate from APS yourself? Your kids are first in line for the choice program you want or the schools with capacity. Move here and set down roots in your 20's? You're next. Move here right before you started having kids? Third. Not until the kids were ready to start school, you looked into the lotteries, and realized you had to move out of DC? Back of the line for you. I don't care how much you paid for your shitshack in 22207. I've invested decades in this community, then you show up, contribute to the overcrowding, and tell me my kids have to suck it up because you paid more for a house? Eff that.


Yes.


Well, I will definitely be printing this out and quoting it (the bolded question and your affirmative response) the next time I speak at a School Board meeting. I think its important that your perspective be entered into the public record.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think parents aren't urging more activity on a new high school partly because they can't believe their kid is ever going to be in high school. But also, a lot of the agitation comes from North Arlington, which managed to get its way on moving HB and creating a neighborhood school that they have to drive to. I suspect that they are expecting a similar level of accommodation when it's time for high school and they aren't thinking about the fact that APS is just plain out of land.
They are not out of land. Have you not seen the reference to the presentation by school bd where it lists VHC carlin springs?


That is not APS land. You cannot assume the county will continue to give APS everything it asks for.




I hardly think asking that Arlington students have a seat in a building, during traditional hours, is demanding.


Define "Arlington students".

Parents own $1.5 million-plus SFHs? I wholeheartedly agree.

Living in some APAH property somewhere? Getting the Arlington housing grant? If I were in charge, I'd say you better make sure your alarm clock works and you can wake yourself up at 4:00 AM. Or you better remember to bundle up when you walk home at 11:30 PM on a January night from your sophomore Algebra I class.


I live in a $700,000 SFH. When do my kids get to go to school?

If we're making up arbitrary rules, I'm going to go by how long people have lived in Arlington. Did you grow up here and graduate from APS yourself? Your kids are first in line for the choice program you want or the schools with capacity. Move here and set down roots in your 20's? You're next. Move here right before you started having kids? Third. Not until the kids were ready to start school, you looked into the lotteries, and realized you had to move out of DC? Back of the line for you. I don't care how much you paid for your shitshack in 22207. I've invested decades in this community, then you show up, contribute to the overcrowding, and tell me my kids have to suck it up because you paid more for a house? Eff that.


Yes.


Well, I will definitely be printing this out and quoting it (the bolded question and your affirmative response) the next time I speak at a School Board meeting. I think its important that your perspective be entered into the public record.



Please do, I'm sure they all feel the same.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think parents aren't urging more activity on a new high school partly because they can't believe their kid is ever going to be in high school. But also, a lot of the agitation comes from North Arlington, which managed to get its way on moving HB and creating a neighborhood school that they have to drive to. I suspect that they are expecting a similar level of accommodation when it's time for high school and they aren't thinking about the fact that APS is just plain out of land.
They are not out of land. Have you not seen the reference to the presentation by school bd where it lists VHC carlin springs?


That is not APS land. You cannot assume the county will continue to give APS everything it asks for.




I hardly think asking that Arlington students have a seat in a building, during traditional hours, is demanding.


Define "Arlington students".

Parents own $1.5 million-plus SFHs? I wholeheartedly agree.

Living in some APAH property somewhere? Getting the Arlington housing grant? If I were in charge, I'd say you better make sure your alarm clock works and you can wake yourself up at 4:00 AM. Or you better remember to bundle up when you walk home at 11:30 PM on a January night from your sophomore Algebra I class.


I live in a $700,000 SFH. When do my kids get to go to school?

If we're making up arbitrary rules, I'm going to go by how long people have lived in Arlington. Did you grow up here and graduate from APS yourself? Your kids are first in line for the choice program you want or the schools with capacity. Move here and set down roots in your 20's? You're next. Move here right before you started having kids? Third. Not until the kids were ready to start school, you looked into the lotteries, and realized you had to move out of DC? Back of the line for you. I don't care how much you paid for your shitshack in 22207. I've invested decades in this community, then you show up, contribute to the overcrowding, and tell me my kids have to suck it up because you paid more for a house? Eff that.


Yes.


Well, I will definitely be printing this out and quoting it (the bolded question and your affirmative response) the next time I speak at a School Board meeting. I think its important that your perspective be entered into the public record.


I'm not sure if quoting an anonymous message board is a good idea. Although, it does illustrate how this issue has caused discord in the community.

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If that person even lives in Arlington!
Anonymous
When is all of this overcrowding of schools supposed to happen? Is there a certain grade level that will be able to get through high school without experiencing the overcrowding/mixed timing if that's implemented? I haven't been able to find out what grades will be affected.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:When is all of this overcrowding of schools supposed to happen? Is there a certain grade level that will be able to get through high school without experiencing the overcrowding/mixed timing if that's implemented? I haven't been able to find out what grades will be affected.


The projections start at 2020 and go on from there.
If your kid will be in high school in the next 20 years- they will be affected.
Anonymous
What so we do know. Petitions? PTA march on County Building?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:When is all of this overcrowding of schools supposed to happen? Is there a certain grade level that will be able to get through high school without experiencing the overcrowding/mixed timing if that's implemented? I haven't been able to find out what grades will be affected.


http://www.apsva.us/cms/lib2/VA01000586/Centricity/Domain/110/Capacity_Utilization_FallProjections16-25_Final_Revised_11172015.pdf

Projections out to 2025/2026. It's not pretty.
Anonymous
The County Board apparently thinks that parents aren't paying attention. As mentioned pages and pages ago, John Vihstadt joked about giving teens coffee so that they'll go to zero period classes.

I also just got a form letter response to the email I sent to the County Board, and it was signed by Libby Garvey. It reads in part: For this proposed CIP Budget, the School Board showed us a 10-year plan to meet nearly all of the increasing capacity demand at the elementary, middle and high school levels through new construction projects and through renovation and modification of existing school buildings. This is an outright lie. The CIP shows a TBD line for 1,000 HS seats. The County Board either still doesn't get it, or really thinks they can just punt this down the road. My letter to the School Board got a form response signed by the chair, indicating that their final decisions would take into account community input. I'll be emailing back today, treating it as if it were a real email, asking exactly what they mean by that since it's great to hear that they are listening to the concerns of the taxpayers (can you sense my sarcasm?).

If you haven't already, please reach out to the school and county board!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The County Board apparently thinks that parents aren't paying attention. As mentioned pages and pages ago, John Vihstadt joked about giving teens coffee so that they'll go to zero period classes.

I also just got a form letter response to the email I sent to the County Board, and it was signed by Libby Garvey. It reads in part: For this proposed CIP Budget, the School Board showed us a 10-year plan to meet nearly all of the increasing capacity demand at the elementary, middle and high school levels through new construction projects and through renovation and modification of existing school buildings. This is an outright lie. The CIP shows a TBD line for 1,000 HS seats. The County Board either still doesn't get it, or really thinks they can just punt this down the road. My letter to the School Board got a form response signed by the chair, indicating that their final decisions would take into account community input. I'll be emailing back today, treating it as if it were a real email, asking exactly what they mean by that since it's great to hear that they are listening to the concerns of the taxpayers (can you sense my sarcasm?).

If you haven't already, please reach out to the school and county board!


So 1,000 students = "nearly"?
Anonymous
Please consider signing this petition which asks the Arlington County Board, School Board, and Superintendent Murphy to work together to build high school facilities so that our youngest APS kids and future students will have real seats in real buildings by the time they get to high school. Our kids shouldn't be forced into morning or evening high school shifts because we have not adequately planned for them. We know these kids are coming -- they are in the system already! Please add your voice to convince the decisionmakers to take steps now so our kids will have a normal high school experience.

The School Board will vote on its CIP on June 16, so there is no time to lose. You can read more and sign the petition here:

https://www.change.org/p/arlington-county-board-aps-should-build-new-high-school-space-not-make-schools-bigger-and-double-shift-students?recruiter=550779836&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=share_email_responsive

Please share this link with your PTAs, neighborhood associations, and other Arlington groups. Thank you!
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