Confederate Battle Flag

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Anonymous wrote:That poster who was defending the confederate flag seemed emotionally disturbed. Basically people like that are paranoid schizophrenia. That PP has probably spent YEARS "studying" his "subject" and coming up with facile responses to arguments he's heard hundreds of times. When guys like that PP get too far lost in their delusions, really bad things can happen. Fortunately most are just harmless cranks but not always. The bottom line is that flag is a deliberate racist symbol. That's what it means and it's all that it means, period. It doesn't stand for a brave and noble lost cause. It's always stood for pure stupidity. It's always stood for a horrible war for a worthless "cause"-- slavery--because southern leaders didn't care about slaves and they didn't care about their own sons, they led them to horrible slaughter against the North.

People like PP defending that flag and all those in favor of it are just doubling and tripling down in delusional stupidity. These guys aren't simply racists--they're mentally disturbed people who latch onto a racist world view to provide focus to their pre-existing mental illness. It didn't even have to be racism either. If PP had happened to latch onto something else to obsessively focus on it could have been anything like John Lennon or Jodi Foster.

I'm a white Jewish girl who is also an antiques dealer. I believe history should be preserved; that we can learn so much from the past, that to destroy it or re-write it dooms us to repeat our mistakes. I feel re-writing and/or burying history, no matter how dark it might be, is a hallmark of insanity.

If you want a definition of insanity, political correctness is it.

Nope, it's apparent any all your posts that it's all about money. You make money off of this and it matters not if it is offensive. It's all about the Benjamin's.

Again, I deal in dresses and bridal items, some costume jewelry, so confederate memorabilia isn't my market - my customers wouldn't really want it. So no, I'm not making money off it. But thanks for assuming

No one has to rewrite history. We don't have to fly a politically loaded symbol over government buildings. It belongs in a museum, just like the swastika.

Last time: It's not flying over a government building

So you'd be OK if they raised the Nazi flag right beside it?

I notice they're not flying the rainbow flag. Oversight?

Why would they fly the rainbow or the Nazi flag? Neither are a part of S.C. history.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That poster who was defending the confederate flag seemed emotionally disturbed. Basically people like that are paranoid schizophrenia. That PP has probably spent YEARS "studying" his "subject" and coming up with facile responses to arguments he's heard hundreds of times. When guys like that PP get too far lost in their delusions, really bad things can happen. Fortunately most are just harmless cranks but not always. The bottom line is that flag is a deliberate racist symbol. That's what it means and it's all that it means, period. It doesn't stand for a brave and noble lost cause. It's always stood for pure stupidity. It's always stood for a horrible war for a worthless "cause"-- slavery--because southern leaders didn't care about slaves and they didn't care about their own sons, they led them to horrible slaughter against the North.

People like PP defending that flag and all those in favor of it are just doubling and tripling down in delusional stupidity. These guys aren't simply racists--they're mentally disturbed people who latch onto a racist world view to provide focus to their pre-existing mental illness. It didn't even have to be racism either. If PP had happened to latch onto something else to obsessively focus on it could have been anything like John Lennon or Jodi Foster.

Take your meds. There is not a clear link between that flag and mental illness. Are all the people in the SC legislature paranoid schizophrenics? I guess to you they are. Meds -- they do wonders.

Not only that PP, those racist South Carolinans elected a governor of Indian descent and an African American man to the Senate! And those racist Louisiana residents elected Bobby Jindal!! But no worries - a DCUMer called Scott an Uncle Tom, so he doesn't count

All three wish they were white.

Most indian-americans instinctively can tell nimrata and piyush's self hate runs deep.

Are you actually listening to the bile you're spewing? Good LORD. They are not white, SC elected them, so your only response is they wish they were? This is why I can't take liberals seriously.

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Anonymous wrote:That poster who was defending the confederate flag seemed emotionally disturbed. Basically people like that are paranoid schizophrenia. That PP has probably spent YEARS "studying" his "subject" and coming up with facile responses to arguments he's heard hundreds of times. When guys like that PP get too far lost in their delusions, really bad things can happen. Fortunately most are just harmless cranks but not always. The bottom line is that flag is a deliberate racist symbol. That's what it means and it's all that it means, period. It doesn't stand for a brave and noble lost cause. It's always stood for pure stupidity. It's always stood for a horrible war for a worthless "cause"-- slavery--because southern leaders didn't care about slaves and they didn't care about their own sons, they led them to horrible slaughter against the North.

People like PP defending that flag and all those in favor of it are just doubling and tripling down in delusional stupidity. These guys aren't simply racists--they're mentally disturbed people who latch onto a racist world view to provide focus to their pre-existing mental illness. It didn't even have to be racism either. If PP had happened to latch onto something else to obsessively focus on it could have been anything like John Lennon or Jodi Foster.

I'm a white Jewish girl who is also an antiques dealer. I believe history should be preserved; that we can learn so much from the past, that to destroy it or re-write it dooms us to repeat our mistakes. I feel re-writing and/or burying history, no matter how dark it might be, is a hallmark of insanity.

If you want a definition of insanity, political correctness is it.

Nope, it's apparent any all your posts that it's all about money. You make money off of this and it matters not if it is offensive. It's all about the Benjamin's.

Again, I deal in dresses and bridal items, some costume jewelry, so confederate memorabilia isn't my market - my customers wouldn't really want it. So no, I'm not making money off it. But thanks for assuming

No one has to rewrite history. We don't have to fly a politically loaded symbol over government buildings. It belongs in a museum, just like the swastika.

Last time: It's not flying over a government building

It's on the Capitol Grounds. Your comment is about as honest as the claim that the Confederate Flag represents Southern Pride. A thin veneer cannot cover up the reality underneath.

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Anonymous wrote:That poster who was defending the confederate flag seemed emotionally disturbed. Basically people like that are paranoid schizophrenia. That PP has probably spent YEARS "studying" his "subject" and coming up with facile responses to arguments he's heard hundreds of times. When guys like that PP get too far lost in their delusions, really bad things can happen. Fortunately most are just harmless cranks but not always. The bottom line is that flag is a deliberate racist symbol. That's what it means and it's all that it means, period. It doesn't stand for a brave and noble lost cause. It's always stood for pure stupidity. It's always stood for a horrible war for a worthless "cause"-- slavery--because southern leaders didn't care about slaves and they didn't care about their own sons, they led them to horrible slaughter against the North.

People like PP defending that flag and all those in favor of it are just doubling and tripling down in delusional stupidity. These guys aren't simply racists--they're mentally disturbed people who latch onto a racist world view to provide focus to their pre-existing mental illness. It didn't even have to be racism either. If PP had happened to latch onto something else to obsessively focus on it could have been anything like John Lennon or Jodi Foster.

I'm a white Jewish girl who is also an antiques dealer. I believe history should be preserved; that we can learn so much from the past, that to destroy it or re-write it dooms us to repeat our mistakes. I feel re-writing and/or burying history, no matter how dark it might be, is a hallmark of insanity.

If you want a definition of insanity, political correctness is it.

Nope, it's apparent any all your posts that it's all about money. You make money off of this and it matters not if it is offensive. It's all about the Benjamin's.

Again, I deal in dresses and bridal items, some costume jewelry, so confederate memorabilia isn't my market - my customers wouldn't really want it. So no, I'm not making money off it. But thanks for assuming

No one has to rewrite history. We don't have to fly a politically loaded symbol over government buildings. It belongs in a museum, just like the swastika.

Last time: It's not flying over a government building

So you'd be OK if they raised the Nazi flag right beside it?

I notice they're not flying the rainbow flag. Oversight?

Why would they fly the rainbow or the Nazi flag? Neither are a part of S.C. history.

Because apparently the flag flies on some non-governmental free speech zone.

[Anonymous]

Confederate flag stands for a bunch of states that fought for slavery. Opposite of freedom.

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Anonymous wrote:That poster who was defending the confederate flag seemed emotionally disturbed. Basically people like that are paranoid schizophrenia. That PP has probably spent YEARS "studying" his "subject" and coming up with facile responses to arguments he's heard hundreds of times. When guys like that PP get too far lost in their delusions, really bad things can happen. Fortunately most are just harmless cranks but not always. The bottom line is that flag is a deliberate racist symbol. That's what it means and it's all that it means, period. It doesn't stand for a brave and noble lost cause. It's always stood for pure stupidity. It's always stood for a horrible war for a worthless "cause"-- slavery--because southern leaders didn't care about slaves and they didn't care about their own sons, they led them to horrible slaughter against the North.

People like PP defending that flag and all those in favor of it are just doubling and tripling down in delusional stupidity. These guys aren't simply racists--they're mentally disturbed people who latch onto a racist world view to provide focus to their pre-existing mental illness. It didn't even have to be racism either. If PP had happened to latch onto something else to obsessively focus on it could have been anything like John Lennon or Jodi Foster.

I'm a white Jewish girl who is also an antiques dealer. I believe history should be preserved; that we can learn so much from the past, that to destroy it or re-write it dooms us to repeat our mistakes. I feel re-writing and/or burying history, no matter how dark it might be, is a hallmark of insanity.

If you want a definition of insanity, political correctness is it.

Nope, it's apparent any all your posts that it's all about money. You make money off of this and it matters not if it is offensive. It's all about the Benjamin's.

Again, I deal in dresses and bridal items, some costume jewelry, so confederate memorabilia isn't my market - my customers wouldn't really want it. So no, I'm not making money off it. But thanks for assuming

No one has to rewrite history. We don't have to fly a politically loaded symbol over government buildings. It belongs in a museum, just like the swastika.

Last time: It's not flying over a government building

So you'd be OK if they raised the Nazi flag right beside it?

I notice they're not flying the rainbow flag. Oversight?

Why would they fly the rainbow or the Nazi flag? Neither are a part of S.C. history.

Because apparently the flag flies on some non-governmental free speech zone.

The whole country is a free speech zone.

[jsteele]

The problem with the Confederate flag is neatly summarized here by Yoni Applebaum:

"The flag was created by an army raised to kill in defense of slavery, revived by a movement that killed in defense of segregation, and now flaunted by a man who killed nine innocents in defense of white supremacy."

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/06/why-is-the-flag-still-there/396431/

This is the "heritage" that some are eager to preserve.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That poster who was defending the confederate flag seemed emotionally disturbed. Basically people like that are paranoid schizophrenia. That PP has probably spent YEARS "studying" his "subject" and coming up with facile responses to arguments he's heard hundreds of times. When guys like that PP get too far lost in their delusions, really bad things can happen. Fortunately most are just harmless cranks but not always. The bottom line is that flag is a deliberate racist symbol. That's what it means and it's all that it means, period. It doesn't stand for a brave and noble lost cause. It's always stood for pure stupidity. It's always stood for a horrible war for a worthless "cause"-- slavery--because southern leaders didn't care about slaves and they didn't care about their own sons, they led them to horrible slaughter against the North.

People like PP defending that flag and all those in favor of it are just doubling and tripling down in delusional stupidity. These guys aren't simply racists--they're mentally disturbed people who latch onto a racist world view to provide focus to their pre-existing mental illness. It didn't even have to be racism either. If PP had happened to latch onto something else to obsessively focus on it could have been anything like John Lennon or Jodi Foster.

I'm a white Jewish girl who is also an antiques dealer. I believe history should be preserved; that we can learn so much from the past, that to destroy it or re-write it dooms us to repeat our mistakes. I feel re-writing and/or burying history, no matter how dark it might be, is a hallmark of insanity.

If you want a definition of insanity, political correctness is it.

Nope, it's apparent any all your posts that it's all about money. You make money off of this and it matters not if it is offensive. It's all about the Benjamin's.

Again, I deal in dresses and bridal items, some costume jewelry, so confederate memorabilia isn't my market - my customers wouldn't really want it. So no, I'm not making money off it. But thanks for assuming

No one has to rewrite history. We don't have to fly a politically loaded symbol over government buildings. It belongs in a museum, just like the swastika.

Last time: It's not flying over a government building

So you'd be OK if they raised the Nazi flag right beside it?

I notice they're not flying the rainbow flag. Oversight?

Why would they fly the rainbow or the Nazi flag? Neither are a part of S.C. history.

Why not then fly the British flag. Or a flag representing the Yamasee? They were part of South Carolina's history for far longer than the brief 4 years that the CSA existed. Yet I don't see those flying. So your logic of "it's part of SC History" fails. Again, why should the CSA flag be flying?

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Anonymous wrote:That poster who was defending the confederate flag seemed emotionally disturbed. Basically people like that are paranoid schizophrenia. That PP has probably spent YEARS "studying" his "subject" and coming up with facile responses to arguments he's heard hundreds of times. When guys like that PP get too far lost in their delusions, really bad things can happen. Fortunately most are just harmless cranks but not always. The bottom line is that flag is a deliberate racist symbol. That's what it means and it's all that it means, period. It doesn't stand for a brave and noble lost cause. It's always stood for pure stupidity. It's always stood for a horrible war for a worthless "cause"-- slavery--because southern leaders didn't care about slaves and they didn't care about their own sons, they led them to horrible slaughter against the North.

People like PP defending that flag and all those in favor of it are just doubling and tripling down in delusional stupidity. These guys aren't simply racists--they're mentally disturbed people who latch onto a racist world view to provide focus to their pre-existing mental illness. It didn't even have to be racism either. If PP had happened to latch onto something else to obsessively focus on it could have been anything like John Lennon or Jodi Foster.

I'm a white Jewish girl who is also an antiques dealer. I believe history should be preserved; that we can learn so much from the past, that to destroy it or re-write it dooms us to repeat our mistakes. I feel re-writing and/or burying history, no matter how dark it might be, is a hallmark of insanity.

If you want a definition of insanity, political correctness is it.

Nope, it's apparent any all your posts that it's all about money. You make money off of this and it matters not if it is offensive. It's all about the Benjamin's.

Again, I deal in dresses and bridal items, some costume jewelry, so confederate memorabilia isn't my market - my customers wouldn't really want it. So no, I'm not making money off it. But thanks for assuming

No one has to rewrite history. We don't have to fly a politically loaded symbol over government buildings. It belongs in a museum, just like the swastika.

Last time: It's not flying over a government building

So you'd be OK if they raised the Nazi flag right beside it?

I notice they're not flying the rainbow flag. Oversight?

Why would they fly the rainbow or the Nazi flag? Neither are a part of S.C. history.

Because apparently the flag flies on some non-governmental free speech zone.

The whole country is a free speech zone.

Government property is government property. The government does not have to endorse this flag.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That poster who was defending the confederate flag seemed emotionally disturbed. Basically people like that are paranoid schizophrenia. That PP has probably spent YEARS "studying" his "subject" and coming up with facile responses to arguments he's heard hundreds of times. When guys like that PP get too far lost in their delusions, really bad things can happen. Fortunately most are just harmless cranks but not always. The bottom line is that flag is a deliberate racist symbol. That's what it means and it's all that it means, period. It doesn't stand for a brave and noble lost cause. It's always stood for pure stupidity. It's always stood for a horrible war for a worthless "cause"-- slavery--because southern leaders didn't care about slaves and they didn't care about their own sons, they led them to horrible slaughter against the North.

People like PP defending that flag and all those in favor of it are just doubling and tripling down in delusional stupidity. These guys aren't simply racists--they're mentally disturbed people who latch onto a racist world view to provide focus to their pre-existing mental illness. It didn't even have to be racism either. If PP had happened to latch onto something else to obsessively focus on it could have been anything like John Lennon or Jodi Foster.

I'm a white Jewish girl who is also an antiques dealer. I believe history should be preserved; that we can learn so much from the past, that to destroy it or re-write it dooms us to repeat our mistakes. I feel re-writing and/or burying history, no matter how dark it might be, is a hallmark of insanity.

If you want a definition of insanity, political correctness is it.

a) your race, religion and occupation aren't germane, even if you're being truthful, which I doubt.

b) you sound like a sock puppet of the other PP. Something about your writing style.

c) since you claim your religion has some relevance, are you claiming you think it woukd be cool to fly a Nazi flag over your state capitol? How about hanging a swastika in the window of your antiques shop next to the menorah?

Try it and get.back to us

1) I am being truthful. You doubting that tells me that you don't have a leg to stand on. Who I am is very relevant because you decided that only an insane person would not see the relevance of the confederate flag. I do - from a historical standpoint.

2) I have no idea who you think I am sock puppeting. There are definitely more than one of us stating the confederate flag is relevant from a historical standpoint.

3) Why would my state capitol fly a Nazi flag when Germany was responsible for the atrocities? I am onine - so no shop. But if you are asking me if Nazi memorabilia has any historical importance, I'll say absolutely! I deal in girl-stuff, i.e. dresses, wedding accessories, and I don't think there is a market for Nazi memorabilia with my customer base. I do have friends who deal in military memorabilia, and they carry Nazi artifacts. I have no issue with that.

I am a "Jewish girl" (though I do not generally refer to myself that way) and we used to have a neighbor who flew an obscure version of the Nazi flag in front of his house. It was not a swastika but it was distinctly a Nazi flag. My father-in-law (an old German man) recognized the flag and told us what it was. He was quite disturbed to see that flag again. This was incredibly creepy. There is no way that guy had any other reason to fly that flag than to celebrate his Nazi heritage. No matter what you say, I very much doubt you would have felt good about this flag flying in your neighborhood and that is the sinister effect the Confederate flag has on a lot of anti-racist people who are Black or members of other races.

I have never, in my life, understood what the Confederate flag means to white Southern people when the rest of the world sees it only as a celebration of a racist, evil history. I understand Southern pride but there are many other ways to celebrate the good things about that heritage than by offending the rest of the world.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That poster who was defending the confederate flag seemed emotionally disturbed. Basically people like that are paranoid schizophrenia. That PP has probably spent YEARS "studying" his "subject" and coming up with facile responses to arguments he's heard hundreds of times. When guys like that PP get too far lost in their delusions, really bad things can happen. Fortunately most are just harmless cranks but not always. The bottom line is that flag is a deliberate racist symbol. That's what it means and it's all that it means, period. It doesn't stand for a brave and noble lost cause. It's always stood for pure stupidity. It's always stood for a horrible war for a worthless "cause"-- slavery--because southern leaders didn't care about slaves and they didn't care about their own sons, they led them to horrible slaughter against the North.

People like PP defending that flag and all those in favor of it are just doubling and tripling down in delusional stupidity. These guys aren't simply racists--they're mentally disturbed people who latch onto a racist world view to provide focus to their pre-existing mental illness. It didn't even have to be racism either. If PP had happened to latch onto something else to obsessively focus on it could have been anything like John Lennon or Jodi Foster.

I'm a white Jewish girl who is also an antiques dealer. I believe history should be preserved; that we can learn so much from the past, that to destroy it or re-write it dooms us to repeat our mistakes. I feel re-writing and/or burying history, no matter how dark it might be, is a hallmark of insanity.

If you want a definition of insanity, political correctness is it.

a) your race, religion and occupation aren't germane, even if you're being truthful, which I doubt.

b) you sound like a sock puppet of the other PP. Something about your writing style.

c) since you claim your religion has some relevance, are you claiming you think it woukd be cool to fly a Nazi flag over your state capitol? How about hanging a swastika in the window of your antiques shop next to the menorah?

Try it and get.back to us

1) I am being truthful. You doubting that tells me that you don't have a leg to stand on. Who I am is very relevant because you decided that only an insane person would not see the relevance of the confederate flag. I do - from a historical standpoint.

2) I have no idea who you think I am sock puppeting. There are definitely more than one of us stating the confederate flag is relevant from a historical standpoint.

3) Why would my state capitol fly a Nazi flag when Germany was responsible for the atrocities? I am onine - so no shop. But if you are asking me if Nazi memorabilia has any historical importance, I'll say absolutely! I deal in girl-stuff, i.e. dresses, wedding accessories, and I don't think there is a market for Nazi memorabilia with my customer base. I do have friends who deal in military memorabilia, and they carry Nazi artifacts. I have no issue with that.

I am a "Jewish girl" (though I do not generally refer to myself that way) and we used to have a neighbor who flew an obscure version of the Nazi flag in front of his house. It was not a swastika but it was distinctly a Nazi flag. My father-in-law (an old German man) recognized the flag and told us what it was. He was quite disturbed to see that flag again. This was incredibly creepy. There is no way that guy had any other reason to fly that flag than to celebrate his Nazi heritage. No matter what you say, I very much doubt you would have felt good about this flag flying in your neighborhood and that is the sinister effect the Confederate flag has on a lot of anti-racist people who are Black or members of other races.

I have never, in my life, understood what the Confederate flag means to white Southern people when the rest of the world sees it only as a celebration of a racist, evil history. I understand Southern pride but there are many other ways to celebrate the good things about that heritage than by offending the rest of the world.

Feeling good or bad about something and trying to control it because of how I feel, are two different things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That poster who was defending the confederate flag seemed emotionally disturbed. Basically people like that are paranoid schizophrenia. That PP has probably spent YEARS "studying" his "subject" and coming up with facile responses to arguments he's heard hundreds of times. When guys like that PP get too far lost in their delusions, really bad things can happen. Fortunately most are just harmless cranks but not always. The bottom line is that flag is a deliberate racist symbol. That's what it means and it's all that it means, period. It doesn't stand for a brave and noble lost cause. It's always stood for pure stupidity. It's always stood for a horrible war for a worthless "cause"-- slavery--because southern leaders didn't care about slaves and they didn't care about their own sons, they led them to horrible slaughter against the North.

People like PP defending that flag and all those in favor of it are just doubling and tripling down in delusional stupidity. These guys aren't simply racists--they're mentally disturbed people who latch onto a racist world view to provide focus to their pre-existing mental illness. It didn't even have to be racism either. If PP had happened to latch onto something else to obsessively focus on it could have been anything like John Lennon or Jodi Foster.

I'm a white Jewish girl who is also an antiques dealer. I believe history should be preserved; that we can learn so much from the past, that to destroy it or re-write it dooms us to repeat our mistakes. I feel re-writing and/or burying history, no matter how dark it might be, is a hallmark of insanity.

If you want a definition of insanity, political correctness is it.

a) your race, religion and occupation aren't germane, even if you're being truthful, which I doubt.

b) you sound like a sock puppet of the other PP. Something about your writing style.

c) since you claim your religion has some relevance, are you claiming you think it woukd be cool to fly a Nazi flag over your state capitol? How about hanging a swastika in the window of your antiques shop next to the menorah?

Try it and get.back to us

1) I am being truthful. You doubting that tells me that you don't have a leg to stand on. Who I am is very relevant because you decided that only an insane person would not see the relevance of the confederate flag. I do - from a historical standpoint.

2) I have no idea who you think I am sock puppeting. There are definitely more than one of us stating the confederate flag is relevant from a historical standpoint.

3) Why would my state capitol fly a Nazi flag when Germany was responsible for the atrocities? I am onine - so no shop. But if you are asking me if Nazi memorabilia has any historical importance, I'll say absolutely! I deal in girl-stuff, i.e. dresses, wedding accessories, and I don't think there is a market for Nazi memorabilia with my customer base. I do have friends who deal in military memorabilia, and they carry Nazi artifacts. I have no issue with that.

I am a "Jewish girl" (though I do not generally refer to myself that way) and we used to have a neighbor who flew an obscure version of the Nazi flag in front of his house. It was not a swastika but it was distinctly a Nazi flag. My father-in-law (an old German man) recognized the flag and told us what it was. He was quite disturbed to see that flag again. This was incredibly creepy. There is no way that guy had any other reason to fly that flag than to celebrate his Nazi heritage. No matter what you say, I very much doubt you would have felt good about this flag flying in your neighborhood and that is the sinister effect the Confederate flag has on a lot of anti-racist people who are Black or members of other races.

I have never, in my life, understood what the Confederate flag means to white Southern people when the rest of the world sees it only as a celebration of a racist, evil history. I understand Southern pride but there are many other ways to celebrate the good things about that heritage than by offending the rest of the world.

Feeling good or bad about something and trying to control it because of how I feel, are two different things.

No one is asking racists to stop flying the flag. That is actually a good thing because then you know who the racists are. We are asking the government to stop flying the flag. If the government chooses to fly the flag, then the rest of the nation will assume that the entire state is racist.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That poster who was defending the confederate flag seemed emotionally disturbed. Basically people like that are paranoid schizophrenia. That PP has probably spent YEARS "studying" his "subject" and coming up with facile responses to arguments he's heard hundreds of times. When guys like that PP get too far lost in their delusions, really bad things can happen. Fortunately most are just harmless cranks but not always. The bottom line is that flag is a deliberate racist symbol. That's what it means and it's all that it means, period. It doesn't stand for a brave and noble lost cause. It's always stood for pure stupidity. It's always stood for a horrible war for a worthless "cause"-- slavery--because southern leaders didn't care about slaves and they didn't care about their own sons, they led them to horrible slaughter against the North.

People like PP defending that flag and all those in favor of it are just doubling and tripling down in delusional stupidity. These guys aren't simply racists--they're mentally disturbed people who latch onto a racist world view to provide focus to their pre-existing mental illness. It didn't even have to be racism either. If PP had happened to latch onto something else to obsessively focus on it could have been anything like John Lennon or Jodi Foster.

I'm a white Jewish girl who is also an antiques dealer. I believe history should be preserved; that we can learn so much from the past, that to destroy it or re-write it dooms us to repeat our mistakes. I feel re-writing and/or burying history, no matter how dark it might be, is a hallmark of insanity.

If you want a definition of insanity, political correctness is it.

a) your race, religion and occupation aren't germane, even if you're being truthful, which I doubt.

b) you sound like a sock puppet of the other PP. Something about your writing style.

c) since you claim your religion has some relevance, are you claiming you think it woukd be cool to fly a Nazi flag over your state capitol? How about hanging a swastika in the window of your antiques shop next to the menorah?

Try it and get.back to us

1) I am being truthful. You doubting that tells me that you don't have a leg to stand on. Who I am is very relevant because you decided that only an insane person would not see the relevance of the confederate flag. I do - from a historical standpoint.

2) I have no idea who you think I am sock puppeting. There are definitely more than one of us stating the confederate flag is relevant from a historical standpoint.

3) Why would my state capitol fly a Nazi flag when Germany was responsible for the atrocities? I am onine - so no shop. But if you are asking me if Nazi memorabilia has any historical importance, I'll say absolutely! I deal in girl-stuff, i.e. dresses, wedding accessories, and I don't think there is a market for Nazi memorabilia with my customer base. I do have friends who deal in military memorabilia, and they carry Nazi artifacts. I have no issue with that.

I am a "Jewish girl" (though I do not generally refer to myself that way) and we used to have a neighbor who flew an obscure version of the Nazi flag in front of his house. It was not a swastika but it was distinctly a Nazi flag. My father-in-law (an old German man) recognized the flag and told us what it was. He was quite disturbed to see that flag again. This was incredibly creepy. There is no way that guy had any other reason to fly that flag than to celebrate his Nazi heritage. No matter what you say, I very much doubt you would have felt good about this flag flying in your neighborhood and that is the sinister effect the Confederate flag has on a lot of anti-racist people who are Black or members of other races.

I have never, in my life, understood what the Confederate flag means to white Southern people when the rest of the world sees it only as a celebration of a racist, evil history. I understand Southern pride but there are many other ways to celebrate the good things about that heritage than by offending the rest of the world.

Feeling good or bad about something and trying to control it because of how I feel, are two different things.

No one is asking racists to stop flying the flag. That is actually a good thing because then you know who the racists are. We are asking the government to stop flying the flag. If the government chooses to fly the flag, then the rest of the nation will assume that the entire state is racist.

You know what they say about the word assume, right?

Progressives don't get to speak for 'the rest of the nation'. You understand that as well? If we constantly bowed down to progressive assumptions, we'd look like Detroit.

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Anonymous wrote:That poster who was defending the confederate flag seemed emotionally disturbed. Basically people like that are paranoid schizophrenia. That PP has probably spent YEARS "studying" his "subject" and coming up with facile responses to arguments he's heard hundreds of times. When guys like that PP get too far lost in their delusions, really bad things can happen. Fortunately most are just harmless cranks but not always. The bottom line is that flag is a deliberate racist symbol. That's what it means and it's all that it means, period. It doesn't stand for a brave and noble lost cause. It's always stood for pure stupidity. It's always stood for a horrible war for a worthless "cause"-- slavery--because southern leaders didn't care about slaves and they didn't care about their own sons, they led them to horrible slaughter against the North.

People like PP defending that flag and all those in favor of it are just doubling and tripling down in delusional stupidity. These guys aren't simply racists--they're mentally disturbed people who latch onto a racist world view to provide focus to their pre-existing mental illness. It didn't even have to be racism either. If PP had happened to latch onto something else to obsessively focus on it could have been anything like John Lennon or Jodi Foster.

I'm a white Jewish girl who is also an antiques dealer. I believe history should be preserved; that we can learn so much from the past, that to destroy it or re-write it dooms us to repeat our mistakes. I feel re-writing and/or burying history, no matter how dark it might be, is a hallmark of insanity.

If you want a definition of insanity, political correctness is it.

a) your race, religion and occupation aren't germane, even if you're being truthful, which I doubt.

b) you sound like a sock puppet of the other PP. Something about your writing style.

c) since you claim your religion has some relevance, are you claiming you think it woukd be cool to fly a Nazi flag over your state capitol? How about hanging a swastika in the window of your antiques shop next to the menorah?

Try it and get.back to us

1) I am being truthful. You doubting that tells me that you don't have a leg to stand on. Who I am is very relevant because you decided that only an insane person would not see the relevance of the confederate flag. I do - from a historical standpoint.

2) I have no idea who you think I am sock puppeting. There are definitely more than one of us stating the confederate flag is relevant from a historical standpoint.

3) Why would my state capitol fly a Nazi flag when Germany was responsible for the atrocities? I am onine - so no shop. But if you are asking me if Nazi memorabilia has any historical importance, I'll say absolutely! I deal in girl-stuff, i.e. dresses, wedding accessories, and I don't think there is a market for Nazi memorabilia with my customer base. I do have friends who deal in military memorabilia, and they carry Nazi artifacts. I have no issue with that.

I am a "Jewish girl" (though I do not generally refer to myself that way) and we used to have a neighbor who flew an obscure version of the Nazi flag in front of his house. It was not a swastika but it was distinctly a Nazi flag. My father-in-law (an old German man) recognized the flag and told us what it was. He was quite disturbed to see that flag again. This was incredibly creepy. There is no way that guy had any other reason to fly that flag than to celebrate his Nazi heritage. No matter what you say, I very much doubt you would have felt good about this flag flying in your neighborhood and that is the sinister effect the Confederate flag has on a lot of anti-racist people who are Black or members of other races.

I have never, in my life, understood what the Confederate flag means to white Southern people when the rest of the world sees it only as a celebration of a racist, evil history. I understand Southern pride but there are many other ways to celebrate the good things about that heritage than by offending the rest of the world.

Feeling good or bad about something and trying to control it because of how I feel, are two different things.

No one is asking racists to stop flying the flag. That is actually a good thing because then you know who the racists are. We are asking the government to stop flying the flag. If the government chooses to fly the flag, then the rest of the nation will assume that the entire state is racist.

You know what they say about the word assume, right?

Progressives don't get to speak for 'the rest of the nation'. You understand that as well? If we constantly bowed down to progressive assumptions, we'd look like Detroit.

It doesn't seem to be what you want to hear, but the government of SC responds to her citizens, and is reconsidering the propriety of flying the flag on the grounds. Bowing down to the wishes of the people is what the government is generally supposed to do.

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Anonymous wrote:That poster who was defending the confederate flag seemed emotionally disturbed. Basically people like that are paranoid schizophrenia. That PP has probably spent YEARS "studying" his "subject" and coming up with facile responses to arguments he's heard hundreds of times. When guys like that PP get too far lost in their delusions, really bad things can happen. Fortunately most are just harmless cranks but not always. The bottom line is that flag is a deliberate racist symbol. That's what it means and it's all that it means, period. It doesn't stand for a brave and noble lost cause. It's always stood for pure stupidity. It's always stood for a horrible war for a worthless "cause"-- slavery--because southern leaders didn't care about slaves and they didn't care about their own sons, they led them to horrible slaughter against the North.

People like PP defending that flag and all those in favor of it are just doubling and tripling down in delusional stupidity. These guys aren't simply racists--they're mentally disturbed people who latch onto a racist world view to provide focus to their pre-existing mental illness. It didn't even have to be racism either. If PP had happened to latch onto something else to obsessively focus on it could have been anything like John Lennon or Jodi Foster.

I'm a white Jewish girl who is also an antiques dealer. I believe history should be preserved; that we can learn so much from the past, that to destroy it or re-write it dooms us to repeat our mistakes. I feel re-writing and/or burying history, no matter how dark it might be, is a hallmark of insanity.

If you want a definition of insanity, political correctness is it.

a) your race, religion and occupation aren't germane, even if you're being truthful, which I doubt.

b) you sound like a sock puppet of the other PP. Something about your writing style.

c) since you claim your religion has some relevance, are you claiming you think it woukd be cool to fly a Nazi flag over your state capitol? How about hanging a swastika in the window of your antiques shop next to the menorah?

Try it and get.back to us

1) I am being truthful. You doubting that tells me that you don't have a leg to stand on. Who I am is very relevant because you decided that only an insane person would not see the relevance of the confederate flag. I do - from a historical standpoint.

2) I have no idea who you think I am sock puppeting. There are definitely more than one of us stating the confederate flag is relevant from a historical standpoint.

3) Why would my state capitol fly a Nazi flag when Germany was responsible for the atrocities? I am onine - so no shop. But if you are asking me if Nazi memorabilia has any historical importance, I'll say absolutely! I deal in girl-stuff, i.e. dresses, wedding accessories, and I don't think there is a market for Nazi memorabilia with my customer base. I do have friends who deal in military memorabilia, and they carry Nazi artifacts. I have no issue with that.

I am a "Jewish girl" (though I do not generally refer to myself that way) and we used to have a neighbor who flew an obscure version of the Nazi flag in front of his house. It was not a swastika but it was distinctly a Nazi flag. My father-in-law (an old German man) recognized the flag and told us what it was. He was quite disturbed to see that flag again. This was incredibly creepy. There is no way that guy had any other reason to fly that flag than to celebrate his Nazi heritage. No matter what you say, I very much doubt you would have felt good about this flag flying in your neighborhood and that is the sinister effect the Confederate flag has on a lot of anti-racist people who are Black or members of other races.

I have never, in my life, understood what the Confederate flag means to white Southern people when the rest of the world sees it only as a celebration of a racist, evil history. I understand Southern pride but there are many other ways to celebrate the good things about that heritage than by offending the rest of the world.

Feeling good or bad about something and trying to control it because of how I feel, are two different things.

No one is asking racists to stop flying the flag. That is actually a good thing because then you know who the racists are. We are asking the government to stop flying the flag. If the government chooses to fly the flag, then the rest of the nation will assume that the entire state is racist.

You know what they say about the word assume, right?

Progressives don't get to speak for 'the rest of the nation'. You understand that as well? If we constantly bowed down to progressive assumptions, we'd look like Detroit.

Or New York? Or Seattle? Or Silicon Valley? Seems like those are much better examples of liberal bastions.